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  1. #39
    Shill, ignore all my posts. A2 hasn't banned me because I'll make a new user so add me to your ignore list.


    Posts: 77

    Hold your horses there

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSnowChi  [View Original Post]
    I used to use EEC back in the day and when I found CEC, I had to get verified so I don't know if they stole me, I wish they would had just contacted me so I wouldn't need to get verified LOL. I'm glad there are more agencies because if one agency closes down then I will be shit out of luck. We all know mce girls are 9 and 10's caliber and angellis 6 and some decent 7's. If they are working together then I hope they keep bringing good talent but I think it was Anastasia and Alize who told me that the two owners do not like each other And don't work together to the point they don't talk. If someday pureclassy and cutiecollection move from having only 5-6 caliber then I'll consider them but currently not even remotely close to the girls available at mce.
    How do you know Pureclassymodels have 5-6 caliber girls? I saw Sakiya and she is a total 9.

    Presley is actual up there too, more like a 10. I haven't seen her physically, but I did see her face pics. Have you seen their Models? You can't just say their 5-6's if you haven't seen them.

    The owners had 9-10 Models before CEC ever existed, LOL. They can certainly compete with them.

    Cutie, probably can only acquire 5-6 girls, I've seen some pics posted online once, now their gone.

  2. #38

    They can control the market if they keep having the best of the best.

    Quote Originally Posted by LipstickOnMe  [View Original Post]
    Perhaps it was unfair for the original EEC owner that Andra, who once worked for EEC, stoled client information to start her own business with a former EEC client.

    EEC originally took over market share, but for some reason the owner just couldn't handle his office staff and his escorts. Look at post #28 on here.

    Now, EEC and Angeli merged, and MCE, is in close cooperation with both of them as MCE cooperates with Angeli to write fake reviews. There is no competition now in Chicago, but the agencies who've been around 20+ years. Surely, those owners can't recruit hot girls on SA or else where.

    The only agencies I see on this website that are brand new that may be able to compete with MCE, EEC and Angeli are http://www.cutiecollectiononline.com/updates.html.

    And https://pureclassymodels.com.

    Cutie, well looking at their website, the girls aren't attractive, and I am skeptical on using them. Pureandclassy looks like the have 2 hot girls, but am also skeptical on using them. However, I think Pureclassymodels can be up there as they list on their website they once were in the industry before.
    I used to use EEC back in the day and when I found CEC, I had to get verified so I don't know if they stole me, I wish they would had just contacted me so I wouldn't need to get verified LOL. I'm glad there are more agencies because if one agency closes down then I will be shit out of luck. We all know mce girls are 9 and 10's caliber and angellis 6 and some decent 7's. If they are working together then I hope they keep bringing good talent but I think it was Anastasia and Alize who told me that the two owners do not like each other And don't work together to the point they don't talk. If someday pureclassy and cutiecollection move from having only 5-6 caliber then I'll consider them but currently not even remotely close to the girls available at mce.

  3. #37
    Shill, ignore all my posts. A2 hasn't banned me because I'll make a new user so add me to your ignore list.


    Posts: 77

    Perhaps it was unfair for EEC that Andra at MCE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaster191  [View Original Post]
    Just read through this thread, have been lurking these forums ever since MCE started giving discounts for reviews here.

    I am a mongerer, not affiliated with any agency. Not sure how to prove this to you guys other than pointing to a few posts I've made in the Arrangements thread asking for advice. Doubt that an agency plant would go through that trouble.

    MCE is just the real deal. I get the skepticism from you guys, especially after trying a bunch of stuff on SA and getting screwed over sometimes by agencies in the past. But MCE is just an agency that is too good to be true, except that it's actually true. I've been using them for about 3 years now. At the beginning things were a bit more spotty. Sometimes the girls didn't seem into it, sometimes there were missed appointments with no compensation or even an apology.

    But from the beginning, I've asked probably like 20+ girls about the agency over the last 3 years, the girls have always said that the agency is awesome. They feel safe, they set their own schedules, MCE has always paid for their hotel rooms, and they have always taken 50% of the price. There are a few girls now (Kylie, Autumn) that have been with the agency for over a year now.

    And somehow the agency has really stepped up their game in the last 1. 5 years or so. The girls are fucking amazing hot. Like half of these girls could probably model. Skinny, pretty faces, some athletic, young, college aged girls. The crazy thing is that recently the girls are also just unbelievably experienced in bed as well. Maybe it's just a hot streak for them or maybe they're doing some good training or something, but I've definitely noticed in the last 6 months that several of the girls are just super enthusiastic and willing to please. On top of being young, skinny college girls that you would only dream of fucking.

    There were periods where the staff was definitely pretty cocky and unapologetic when things went wrong. The staff has accused me a couple of times of doing things I didn't do. They are also pretty unforgiving I think when it comes to girls or mongerers missing appointments. But you have to remember they are dealing with 18-23 year old hot chicks here. These are girls that pretty much get whatever they want from guys around them. They just don't happen to have rich guys accessible aruond them now. If they weren't strict these girls would never keep appointments and the business would never work. But I would say in the last year they have become super professional. They apologize when running late, they try to make it up to you if a girl cancels. And they fire girls that cancel without a reason, to protect our time!

    I would say about half of the new girls are recruited by their friends who already work for the agency. The other half I'm not sure. Probably SA or similar websites. But I have never, ever encountered a girl that had serious concerns about the agency. I have had a few that complained about the agency, but this was the typical 19 year old bullshit. Lack of accountability for not holding up their side of the bargain. I have never heard a legitimate complaint from any of the girls, and most of them are super super positive about the agency.

    I honestly think that what's going on here is other agencies are trying to bring them down because they've really dominated the market. And some of you are (understandably) just super skeptical because it seems too good to be true. If you're in the second boat and not trying them because of this, you're really missing out.

    Oh and finally they really do recruit a certain body type and age. Almost all 18-22 year olds that are skinny, about 50% have really cute faces as well. Not too many chubby or even slightly chubby girls, though there are maybe like 1 or 2.

    Just wanted to stand up for them a bit. They really have a good operation running imo.
    Perhaps it was unfair for the original EEC owner that Andra, who once worked for EEC, stoled client information to start her own business with a former EEC client.

    EEC originally took over market share, but for some reason the owner just couldn't handle his office staff and his escorts. Look at post #28 on here.

    Now, EEC and Angeli merged, and MCE, is in close cooperation with both of them as MCE cooperates with Angeli to write fake reviews. There is no competition now in Chicago, but the agencies who've been around 20+ years. Surely, those owners can't recruit hot girls on SA or else where.

    The only agencies I see on this website that are brand new that may be able to compete with MCE, EEC and Angeli are http://www.cutiecollectiononline.com/updates.html.

    And https://pureclassymodels.com.

    Cutie, well looking at their website, the girls aren't attractive, and I am skeptical on using them. Pureandclassy looks like the have 2 hot girls, but am also skeptical on using them. However, I think Pureclassymodels can be up there as they list on their website they once were in the industry before.

  4. #36

    You guys are being unfair to MCE

    Just read through this thread, have been lurking these forums ever since MCE started giving discounts for reviews here.

    I am a mongerer, not affiliated with any agency. Not sure how to prove this to you guys other than pointing to a few posts I've made in the Arrangements thread asking for advice. Doubt that an agency plant would go through that trouble.

    MCE is just the real deal. I get the skepticism from you guys, especially after trying a bunch of stuff on SA and getting screwed over sometimes by agencies in the past. But MCE is just an agency that is too good to be true, except that it's actually true. I've been using them for about 3 years now. At the beginning things were a bit more spotty. Sometimes the girls didn't seem into it, sometimes there were missed appointments with no compensation or even an apology.

    But from the beginning, I've asked probably like 20+ girls about the agency over the last 3 years, the girls have always said that the agency is awesome. They feel safe, they set their own schedules, MCE has always paid for their hotel rooms, and they have always taken 50% of the price. There are a few girls now (Kylie, Autumn) that have been with the agency for over a year now.

    And somehow the agency has really stepped up their game in the last 1. 5 years or so. The girls are fucking amazing hot. Like half of these girls could probably model. Skinny, pretty faces, some athletic, young, college aged girls. The crazy thing is that recently the girls are also just unbelievably experienced in bed as well. Maybe it's just a hot streak for them or maybe they're doing some good training or something, but I've definitely noticed in the last 6 months that several of the girls are just super enthusiastic and willing to please. On top of being young, skinny college girls that you would only dream of fucking.

    There were periods where the staff was definitely pretty cocky and unapologetic when things went wrong. The staff has accused me a couple of times of doing things I didn't do. They are also pretty unforgiving I think when it comes to girls or mongerers missing appointments. But you have to remember they are dealing with 18-23 year old hot chicks here. These are girls that pretty much get whatever they want from guys around them. They just don't happen to have rich guys accessible aruond them now. If they weren't strict these girls would never keep appointments and the business would never work. But I would say in the last year they have become super professional. They apologize when running late, they try to make it up to you if a girl cancels. And they fire girls that cancel without a reason, to protect our time!

    I would say about half of the new girls are recruited by their friends who already work for the agency. The other half I'm not sure. Probably SA or similar websites. But I have never, ever encountered a girl that had serious concerns about the agency. I have had a few that complained about the agency, but this was the typical 19 year old bullshit. Lack of accountability for not holding up their side of the bargain. I have never heard a legitimate complaint from any of the girls, and most of them are super super positive about the agency.

    I honestly think that what's going on here is other agencies are trying to bring them down because they've really dominated the market. And some of you are (understandably) just super skeptical because it seems too good to be true. If you're in the second boat and not trying them because of this, you're really missing out.

    Oh and finally they really do recruit a certain body type and age. Almost all 18-22 year olds that are skinny, about 50% have really cute faces as well. Not too many chubby or even slightly chubby girls, though there are maybe like 1 or 2.

    Just wanted to stand up for them a bit. They really have a good operation running imo.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by WallyMan  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, your right. The government just ignored the whole hooker thing lmao. Tell that to the owners of backpage.

    They just said, fuck all that other illegal shit. We are going to just get them on tax evasion and let them just keep advertising all the stuff other places get in trouble for.

    Sounds legit.
    There is also verifyhim.com. So yeah, agency girls are not limited to RS2 K and p411.

    I have RS2 K to see working girls, and it is what it is what happened with the tax invasion.

    Many of you mongers have used or still use RS2 K or p411, those were the main websites agency used or currently use to verify clients past or present.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by HomerGuy  [View Original Post]
    Cool! Why not do some homework and post credible news links that RS2 K and not the owner as an individual was busted for tax evasion. It's old news, dude.
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/politic...-paying-taxes/

    But your right, I'm going to get out of this section and keep my opinions to myself.

    Happy mongering and play safe everyone.

  7. #33
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    Posts: 1299

    Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by WallyMan  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, your right. The government just ignored the whole hooker thing lmao. Tell that to the owners of backpage.

    They just said, fuck all that other illegal shit. We are going to just get them on tax evasion and let them just keep advertising all the stuff other places get in trouble for.

    Sounds legit.
    There is a big difference with the legislation that went into effect and the perceived impact that it would have on Backpage.

    Though Rs-Avs may have helped facilitate the p4 p industry, their service was verifying identity. There is no law regarding providing a verification service.

    Busted for income tax evasion is another story. I signed up for RS-Avs a few years ago. Not concerned at all. So what, they have my info. It means nothing.

  8. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by WallyMan  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, your right. The government just ignored the whole hooker thing lmao. Tell that to the owners of backpage.

    They just said, fuck all that other illegal shit. We are going to just get them on tax evasion and let them just keep advertising all the stuff other places get in trouble for.

    Sounds legit.
    Cool! Why not do some homework and post credible news links that RS2 K and not the owner as an individual was busted for tax evasion. It's old news, dude.

  9. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by HomerGuy  [View Original Post]
    WRONG! RS2 K was never compromised. The discussion on TER was about the the owner / proprietor of the site was arrested for TAX EVASION, nothing more. Please get your facts straight.
    Yeah, your right. The government just ignored the whole hooker thing lmao. Tell that to the owners of backpage.

    They just said, fuck all that other illegal shit. We are going to just get them on tax evasion and let them just keep advertising all the stuff other places get in trouble for.

    Sounds legit.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by WallyMan  [View Original Post]
    You need to educate yourself, cause you don't get it.

    Here is the deal. Girls make a decision how they work. And the indy side is NOT all its cracked up to be. First, anyone who has hobby'd for more than a minute knows rs2 k is compromised. They got busted and are still 'allowed' to operate. This was discussed on the TER boards before it became useless.

    And if you think that its not expensive to be an indy. It is. I have seen too many girls try and go back to agencies cause they make more money. Some kick ass as indy's but they tell me it was more work than they ever thought.

    Websites, advertising, screening, getting hotels, what they pay for verification sites that most don't use anyway. None of it is cheap. Add to the fact that most girls don't even know how to get started.

    I'm the first to say I have a real issue with how mce / angelli. And YES they merged even though some here say they didn't. Treats their girls. I think its scummy pimp shit. But some people don't care and that's their business.

    But your all 'this is how it works' when you obviously have no clue.

    Every monger decides for himself what he likes. I have seen good and bad indy's and good and bad agencies.

    You sound like an independent who is slow playing the 'agencies are evil card'.

    And if you are a monger, you sound like one who who thinks he knows everything but doesn't know anything.
    WRONG! RS2 K was never compromised. The discussion on TER was about the the owner / proprietor of the site was arrested for TAX EVASION, nothing more. Please get your facts straight.

  11. #29

    No New Sub to P411

    Quote Originally Posted by WallyMan  [View Original Post]
    You need to educate yourself, cause you don't get it.

    Here is the deal. Girls make a decision how they work. And the indy side is NOT all its cracked up to be. First, anyone who has hobby'd for more than a minute knows rs2 k is compromised. They got busted and are still 'allowed' to operate. This was discussed on the TER boards before it became useless.

    And if you think that its not expensive to be an indy. It is. I have seen too many girls try and go back to agencies cause they make more money. Some kick ass as indy's but they tell me it was more work than they ever thought.

    Websites, advertising, screening, getting hotels, what they pay for verification sites that most don't use anyway. None of it is cheap. Add to the fact that most girls don't even know how to get started.

    I'm the first to say I have a real issue with how mce / angelli. And YES they merged even though some here say they didn't. Treats their girls. I think its scummy pimp shit. But some people don't care and that's their business.

    But your all 'this is how it works' when you obviously have no clue.

    Every monger decides for himself what he likes. I have seen good and bad indy's and good and bad agencies.

    You sound like an independent who is slow playing the 'agencies are evil card'.

    And if you are a monger, you sound like one who who thinks he knows everything but doesn't know anything.
    Besides RS2 K, you can't even sign up for p411 anymore. Useless advice.

  12. #28
    Shill, ignore all my posts. A2 hasn't banned me because I'll make a new user so add me to your ignore list.


    Posts: 77

    MCE, Angeli, And EEC are in close cooperation with each other.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigA1  [View Original Post]
    They are not the same. A while back (before FOSTA / SESTA) a few MCE girls left that agency and showed up at Angelli's. There have been reports that Angelli's and EEC have merged but I can't confirm that.
    They may not be the same, but all 3 of them know each other.

    If you type Angeli on the search bar under Escort or Agency Girls.

    Look for the thread " This is Fantastic and sounds like they take care. Riina posted a email about EEC, Angeli and MCE. The owner of EEC once had animosity on MEC since Andra took EEC original girls to make a agency with a former EEC client.

    Then states that MCE owner was mentored by Andra and Angeli. And since they are in close cooperation, they write fake reviews on TER to hype a girl. Since TER is gone, MEC and Angeli most likely write fake reviews on here. And EEC.

    And since the word on the street that Angeli and EEC merged, well now they know each other and so does MEC since they know Angeli.

    3 agencies that are in close cooperation with each other, I would take the reviews posted on here and in TER with a grain of salt.

    They probably share client information.

  13. #27

    You need to educate yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiCity01  [View Original Post]
    That is why I totally use independents and SB now because of how MCE and Angelis treat their girls. As well as other agencies too. I want the girls I fuck to receive the full payment. The girls spread their legs, drink our cum, and take a full pounding, and lick our ass sometimes. The agency owners don't at all! So why should they get half doing NO sexual acts? If the MCE girls read this. Do yourself a favor and use P411, and RS2 k to be your own boss and get 100% profit.
    You need to educate yourself, cause you don't get it.

    Here is the deal. Girls make a decision how they work. And the indy side is NOT all its cracked up to be. First, anyone who has hobby'd for more than a minute knows rs2 k is compromised. They got busted and are still 'allowed' to operate. This was discussed on the TER boards before it became useless.

    And if you think that its not expensive to be an indy. It is. I have seen too many girls try and go back to agencies cause they make more money. Some kick ass as indy's but they tell me it was more work than they ever thought.

    Websites, advertising, screening, getting hotels, what they pay for verification sites that most don't use anyway. None of it is cheap. Add to the fact that most girls don't even know how to get started.

    I'm the first to say I have a real issue with how mce / angelli. And YES they merged even though some here say they didn't. Treats their girls. I think its scummy pimp shit. But some people don't care and that's their business.

    But your all 'this is how it works' when you obviously have no clue.

    Every monger decides for himself what he likes. I have seen good and bad indy's and good and bad agencies.

    You sound like an independent who is slow playing the 'agencies are evil card'.

    And if you are a monger, you sound like one who who thinks he knows everything but doesn't know anything.

  14. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by FirstTimer7  [View Original Post]
    As mentioned before, sounds more like a provider than a hobbyist.
    Definitely, I just want to make sure anyone reading their posts does so with a grain of salt.

  15. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Bsuh69  [View Original Post]
    I feel like this person isn't contributing anything useful, every post is agency bashing.
    As mentioned before, sounds more like a provider than a hobbyist.

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