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  1. #10965
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    Posts: 1979

    AMPs vs indie masseuses

    Quote Originally Posted by RoaminRoman  [View Original Post]
    It's true, the crackdown put a damper on activities, but the talent didn't just go away. It's still out there and available, if you do your searches right. And, there are a couple sites where ads are still up. You just have to be smart about your searches. I won't insult you by doing your thinking for you, but I'll just remind you that the Net has a history. You can still find the old contacts on some of the websites like BP that have closed. Some of those contact numbers aren't valid any loner, but others are.

    And, of course, the AMPs are still around. The clampdown didn't bother them much, since they didn't much depend on sites like CL and BP for business. What the new (or, rather, revamped) USASG now needs is the sharing of our findings.
    Agreed that AMPs, at least established ones with decent reputations, are probably doing fine. I think some AMPs relied on BP or CL more than others, especially if relatively new and in low-visibility locations.

    IMHO, indie masseuses may have taken the biggest hit, especially ones who advertised in therapeutic massage sections. Most new ad sites are geared toward escorts and not so much toward massage. The ones who are probably doing ok are those who had a reputation for great customer service and cultivated a good base of repeat customers (ex. Thai KK, Tara, etc.) while those who relied on a constant churn of new clients are probably not doing as well.

  2. #10964
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1979

    Nice to be back

    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcAn  [View Original Post]
    Another beta tester in the Northern Virginia section. Welcome back mongers!
    We definitely live in interesting times!

  3. #10963

    Some of the ads are dubious at best

    Yes, the Internet has a history but one has to wonder if some providers simply moved on. We'll have to see who's still active and who isn't.

    Time and money have been in short supply for me recently, but out of curiosity I perused some of the ad boards still available. Many of those ads are dubious at best, even more dubious than the Asian crapshoot ads which dominated Backpage the last couple of years. On one site I also found some ads for providers who had supposedly retired. So this will definitely be an interesting season.

  4. #10962

    Dented but not brokern

    Quote Originally Posted by Idk85  [View Original Post]
    Glad that the forum is back but it is going to be a pain in the ass to find ads because of the crackdown. Even my regular disappeared from the scene. So, I'm starting from zero now. The only positive thing about the crackdown is that I saved a lot of money. LOL.
    It's true, the crackdown put a damper on activities, but the talent didn't just go away. It's still out there and available, if you do your searches right. And, there are a couple sites where ads are still up. You just have to be smart about your searches. I won't insult you by doing your thinking for you, but I'll just remind you that the Net has a history. You can still find the old contacts on some of the websites like BP that have closed. Some of those contact numbers aren't valid any loner, but others are.

    And, of course, the AMPs are still around. The clampdown didn't bother them much, since they didn't much depend on sites like CL and BP for business. What the new (or, rather, revamped) USASG now needs is the sharing of our findings.

  5. #10961
    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcAn  [View Original Post]
    Another beta tester in the Northern Virginia section. Welcome back mongers!
    Glad that the forum is back but it is going to be a pain in the ass to find ads because of the crackdown. Even my regular disappeared from the scene. So, I'm starting from zero now. The only positive thing about the crackdown is that I saved a lot of money. LOL.

  6. #10960

    Testing

    Another beta tester in the Northern Virginia section. Welcome back mongers!

  7. #10959
    Quote Originally Posted by Skooby  [View Original Post]
    As an black man, I believe you. I really regret moving to northern Virginia. It's almost like they are disappointed when I walk in the door, it I get that far. If I knew what I know now I would have moved to Maryland when I came from out of state.
    I'm black and mixed. I had one provider ask me if I spoke spanish and then when I said no asked me to send a pic. Mind you, most can't tell if I'm all the way black or not, she just stopped responding LOL She wasn't thai tho. Crazy that people can be in this line of work and discriminate. Money is the only color that should matter.

  8. #10958
    Quote Originally Posted by AnyMouse  [View Original Post]
    Spahunters. Down!

    Rubmaps. Sporadic all day, currently down.

    Eros is up.

    Independents using CL Beauty.
    . EM was up last time I checked.

  9. #10957
    Quote Originally Posted by Sexingit  [View Original Post]
    From my experience, I only text because I've been turned down by providers who believed that I am AA due to my deep voice. Since I text in complete sentences and politely ask for their donations, my race never comes in play. Representation and presentations matters to them as much as it matters to us.
    I have been asked what race I am, but very rarely.

  10. #10956
    Quote Originally Posted by AnyMouse  [View Original Post]
    Spahunters. Down!

    Rubmaps. Sporadic all day, currently down.

    Eros is up.

    Independents using CL Beauty.
    Never used rubmaps since I had to pay. It looks like they are taking themselves down before the government does.

  11. #10955

    2 more sites down

    Spahunters. Down!

    Rubmaps. Sporadic all day, currently down.

    Eros is up.

    Independents using CL Beauty.

  12. #10954
    Quote Originally Posted by Sexingit  [View Original Post]
    From my experience, I only text because I've been turned down by providers who believed that I am AA due to my deep voice. Since I text in complete sentences and politely ask for their donations, my race never comes in play. Representation and presentations matters to them as much as it matters to us.
    As an black man, I believe you. I really regret moving to northern Virginia. It's almost like they are disappointed when I walk in the door, it I get that far. If I knew what I know now I would have moved to Maryland when I came from out of state.

  13. #10953

    Cindy

    I've had a couple nice sessions with Cindy at the place in Shirlington recently.

  14. #10952

    Never have I been asked race / ethnicity

    Quote Originally Posted by WalterKovacs  [View Original Post]
    In my experience most Thai providers ask for "race / ethnicity" and a lot of other screening.
    From my experience, I only text because I've been turned down by providers who believed that I am AA due to my deep voice. Since I text in complete sentences and politely ask for their donations, my race never comes in play. Representation and presentations matters to them as much as it matters to us.

  15. #10951

    New Rules: establish the tip to match the service

    Quote Originally Posted by VaPlay  [View Original Post]
    Thats double the tip she deserved. . 4 for a HJ with visuals. 6 for HJ with Daty, . 8 to $ for BJ FS. Others continue paying more than this just keep driving up the cost. If paying a dime more than $. 6- 8 for a nice massage with F / S move on from the AMP's to the CC's or Indy's. Quit being part of the problem and start being part of the solution. Unless your trying to marry her.
    I agree. I posted this before:

    I do the following. Happily pay the 1 hour fee. Enjoy the TS and the rub, which usually are nice. Upon the flip, when the upsell comes, I negotiate the tip as such: I say 20 for nothing, 40 for hand, 100 for. You get the idea. They make a decision and the fun begins (very rarely not). This way, I control what I am getting and so do they.

    If you have an existing provider, great, do what you normally do! Otherwise, if you all do the above, we will not overpay when trying a new provider and we wil reset the market.

    Thoughts?

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