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  1. #396

    Hehe

    Quote Originally Posted by FruitNinja  [View Original Post]
    Meet this cute 19-year-old Latina. Cute as all Plays water polo for a local university so the body is tight and form. Just perfect. We meet for lunch, and then she wants to go bowling. We get to the bowling thing and I start making out in the car. She has no problem with it. DFK and all. Let's me paw her body without any hesitation. We stop at my house and hang out for a while. Driving her home, we start discussing what we're looking for. We're both on the same page. She says she doesn't sleep with anyone unless it's after five dates. I'm ok with that. She's clearly infatuated with me because I have real life game and she's in love with it. I drop her off at home and we spend 45 minutes talking in front of her parents' house. I barely get home and she's calling me and we talk for another half hour. I ask her who wore the pants in her house and she says her father. I ask her to really think about the question again and she says, "you know, you're right it is my mom. ".

    One hitch. She says she's interviewing one other guy for the position. I say whoa! "I'm not interested in getting into a competition with some guy. " I've learned that dating sites are shit because there's always that hope that the next guy or girl will be better, so you / they have a hard time committing on the hope that the next message in the inbox will be Mr. Or Mrs. Perfect. So, I tell her I bring plenty to the table and am not getting into something like this. That was on the ride to her house. Yet she still called me after. She also texted additional pictures.

    Not sure how I'll play it but I think I will wait and see if she texts. I'm not texting first. She's a simple girl, 19, never really experienced anything in her life. She's talking about going to see Hamilton. That's a hefty fee for two tickets here in Chicago. She's also a bit of a freak from what she's told me. Yet she has a five-date rule. Sounds to me like she just wants to be shown the town. Interestingly enough she had no problem being touchy feely with a guy almost 3 times her age. In a bowling alley no less. She's a blast but I think she's playing guys just for the adventures. We'll see.

    When I got home I facetimed the 24-year-old that I've been doing for a while. The 30-year-old smoking hottie texted me that she got me new sheets for my house at half price from her friend that works at Bloomingdale's. I've also got a three-hour fuck date with a 25-year-old spinner for $250.

    The one thing that this SA does for sure is take up a lot of time. Fortunately, I have plenty.
    Nice on all that going. Yes it can take up time. I would say though, with the 19 , don't take any chances, verify her age. Make sure she does it, especially if she is sending texts.

  2. #395

    Testing a new ride.

    Meet this cute 19-year-old Latina. Cute as all Plays water polo for a local university so the body is tight and form. Just perfect. We meet for lunch, and then she wants to go bowling. We get to the bowling thing and I start making out in the car. She has no problem with it. DFK and all. Let's me paw her body without any hesitation. We stop at my house and hang out for a while. Driving her home, we start discussing what we're looking for. We're both on the same page. She says she doesn't sleep with anyone unless it's after five dates. I'm ok with that. She's clearly infatuated with me because I have real life game and she's in love with it. I drop her off at home and we spend 45 minutes talking in front of her parents' house. I barely get home and she's calling me and we talk for another half hour. I ask her who wore the pants in her house and she says her father. I ask her to really think about the question again and she says, "you know, you're right it is my mom. ".

    One hitch. She says she's interviewing one other guy for the position. I say whoa! "I'm not interested in getting into a competition with some guy. " I've learned that dating sites are shit because there's always that hope that the next guy or girl will be better, so you / they have a hard time committing on the hope that the next message in the inbox will be Mr. Or Mrs. Perfect. So, I tell her I bring plenty to the table and am not getting into something like this. That was on the ride to her house. Yet she still called me after. She also texted additional pictures.

    Not sure how I'll play it but I think I will wait and see if she texts. I'm not texting first. She's a simple girl, 19, never really experienced anything in her life. She's talking about going to see Hamilton. That's a hefty fee for two tickets here in Chicago. She's also a bit of a freak from what she's told me. Yet she has a five-date rule. Sounds to me like she just wants to be shown the town. Interestingly enough she had no problem being touchy feely with a guy almost 3 times her age. In a bowling alley no less. She's a blast but I think she's playing guys just for the adventures. We'll see.

    When I got home I facetimed the 24-year-old that I've been doing for a while. The 30-year-old smoking hottie texted me that she got me new sheets for my house at half price from her friend that works at Bloomingdale's. I've also got a three-hour fuck date with a 25-year-old spinner for $250.

    The one thing that this SA does for sure is take up a lot of time. Fortunately, I have plenty.

  3. #394
    Quote Originally Posted by Kellster  [View Original Post]
    Never invite them to your home. That's asking for trouble imo. Meet her at a bar or for coffee if you're going to meet. If things go well you can go to a hotel afterwards if you think she's cool and genuinely likes you. She sounds like a pro with possibly a pimp though. I'd probably pass, but it's your call.
    I never take them to my house on the first go around. But I can usually feel out bad people so if after we break the cherry and I feel she's OK, no problem bringing them home. I live in a upper middle class neighborhood, and I'm comfortable in my own house. I can understand if you are married but I'm single. The police department is 5 blocks from my house and I always slip that in as in how safe my neighborhood is because of the location of the PD. I've been doing CL and now SA for over ten years and have had two dozen or more to my house and never a problem. Now if I felt they were a pro or something then no way.

  4. #393
    Quote Originally Posted by Kellster  [View Original Post]
    Never invite them to your home. That's asking for trouble imo. Meet her at a bar or for coffee if you're going to meet. If things go well you can go to a hotel afterwards if you think she's cool and genuinely likes you. She sounds like a pro with possibly a pimp though. I'd probably pass, but it's your call.
    Since stripping is sex work them by definition she would be a pro but I wouldn't assume she had a pimp. Some people are ashamed of their neighborhood or want to say a part of the city they think more people know about. Agree I would never ever allow a provider into my home or know where I live, just a recipe for a setup or blackmail. I'm married and I don't even like my fat ugly house cleaning ladies in the house without my wife there.

  5. #392

    LOL location wise

    Tracing some of the phone numbers is hilarious sometimes. For every wholesome super hot, somewhat down on her luck ex cheerleader, there is some thuggish dancer whose a seasoned pro.

    Fruit I think you were pointing your quote at someone else, I recommended to stay clear or talk her down, she does look / sound like a pro. If I wanted that kind of thing, I'd use an agency. I don't even want an ex dancer even.

    Just me, but even the wholesome 19 why / o I did have, I did not invite her to my home. Too young, too much trouble, it just takes one bad argument and her knowing where you live is a bad thing all the sudden. Plenty of social media, or other ways other than having a pimp, to harm oneself. She knew my first name, and that was that. I searched her facebook to make sure a bunch of her friends were not also on there, as they sometimes work in teams. Do your own due homework really.

  6. #391
    Quote Originally Posted by FruitNinja  [View Original Post]
    That's interesting. I met a dancer, maybe an ex dancer and have had her willing but on hold. She was stripping out of town told me she lived in Hyde Park, she actually lived on the edge of Englewood. Not sure what to make of it. The location got me a little cautious about inviting her to my house but she's hot. Thoughts?
    Never invite them to your home. That's asking for trouble imo. Meet her at a bar or for coffee if you're going to meet. If things go well you can go to a hotel afterwards if you think she's cool and genuinely likes you. She sounds like a pro with possibly a pimp though. I'd probably pass, but it's your call.

  7. #390
    Quote Originally Posted by ItsHowdyDoody  [View Original Post]
    As far as that Svetlana is concerned or whatever, from the pic she has zero right to have any syndrome of any kind. Talk her down to a manageable dollar amount, or move on. I would guess she is bigger than the picture with the only shot she has, probably tatted up, def not wholesome, possibly a pro. Just my sense, never talked to, wouldn't try to.
    The fact that she's asking you to "don't waste my time" tells me she's a pro. There's a lot of them. At the end of the day anyone that has been in the hobby in one form or another know to expect the unexpected.

  8. #389
    Quote Originally Posted by Rileym  [View Original Post]
    Couldn't agree more. I've gravitated in the past few years exclusively to SA, less risk, more discrete. From what I've seen, even though everyone wants the young, 20 year old hardbody, the baggage that comes along with that doesn't make it worth it. My 29 year old (DD enhanced, 120 lbs. Body 9, face 9) understands the friendship, knows and LIKES what her end of the arrangement, and gets how important discretion is. If you can find a single mom in her late 20's / early 30's you'll have alot more luck than mining for the diamond in the rough 21 year old. Of course, allowance can be higher with older and they may ultimately be looking for more than just casual meets every so often. Especially if they'are the model, or ex-model type, but just manage that upfront. Always check job listed and education on the profile. Good way to tell. MUA, aestheticians, in some cases dancers (by that age they're on the down side), are a great well to tap. Just my 2 cents.
    That's interesting. I met a dancer, maybe an ex dancer and have had her willing but on hold. She was stripping out of town told me she lived in Hyde Park, she actually lived on the edge of Englewood. Not sure what to make of it. The location got me a little cautious about inviting her to my house but she's hot. Thoughts?

  9. #388
    Quote Originally Posted by ItsHowdyDoody  [View Original Post]

    As far as that Svetlana is concerned or whatever, from the pic she has zero right to have any syndrome of any kind. Talk her down to a manageable dollar amount, or move on. I would guess she is bigger than the picture with the only shot she has, probably tatted up, def not wholesome, possibly a pro. Just my sense, never talked to, wouldn't try to.
    I saw her private pics a while ago. I did not see any tats, but that can change overnight, as we all know. She also looked more "average" than slim, but still very do able. Based on the conversations I had with her I thought she might be a semi pro.

  10. #387

    Nice.

    Quote Originally Posted by FruitNinja  [View Original Post]
    I don't see these problems. I spot it easily, I move on. On some points I agree. Younger is better. Naive, more pliable, physically and mentally. My 30 year old (Body 8. 5 Face Solid 8+ is much more demanding than the 24 year old. A mix of Filipino and Blonde European. Stunning natural face. A little chubby but I'm OK with it. She behaves when I'm with her and she has fun as well. Shy, smarter than she projects. To me the psychology is automatic. If you have anything your willing to share or tell me please do. Until then I will continue to hunt this playground of cuties.
    No it sounds like you have a good thing going! I def think older can be easier, but they also can be on the downside and are sometimes jealous of the younger girls, and know this maybe their last hurrah. Over 30 I wouldn't even bother with honestly. The easier, more readily available age is probably 27-30 or so. Younger is tougher, but more rewarding if you get one, to me at least. I've turn down a lot of 5's, 6's, and 7's to go after 9, 10's, just because it is more fun.

    As far as that Svetlana is concerned or whatever, from the pic she has zero right to have any syndrome of any kind. Talk her down to a manageable dollar amount, or move on. I would guess she is bigger than the picture with the only shot she has, probably tatted up, def not wholesome, possibly a pro. Just my sense, never talked to, wouldn't try to.

  11. #386

    Re: Svetlanaaaaa

    Has anyone seen Svetanaaaaa, or have any info? I have traded a lot of messages with her. She might have GPS.

    Thanks.

    BT.

    https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...5-eeb7e340a43b

  12. #385
    Quote Originally Posted by FruitNinja  [View Original Post]
    I don't see these problems. I spot it easily, I move on. On some points I agree. Younger is better. Naive, more pliable, physically and mentally. My 30 year old (Body 8. 5 Face Solid 8+ is much more demanding than the 24 year old. A mix of Filipino and Blonde European. Stunning natural face. A little chubby but I'm OK with it. She behaves when I'm with her and she has fun as well. Shy, smarter than she projects. To me the psychology is automatic. If you have anything your willing to share or tell me please do. Until then I will continue to hunt this playground of cuties.
    Couldn't agree more. I've gravitated in the past few years exclusively to SA, less risk, more discrete. From what I've seen, even though everyone wants the young, 20 year old hardbody, the baggage that comes along with that doesn't make it worth it. My 29 year old (DD enhanced, 120 lbs. Body 9, face 9) understands the friendship, knows and LIKES what her end of the arrangement, and gets how important discretion is. If you can find a single mom in her late 20's / early 30's you'll have alot more luck than mining for the diamond in the rough 21 year old. Of course, allowance can be higher with older and they may ultimately be looking for more than just casual meets every so often. Especially if they'are the model, or ex-model type, but just manage that upfront. Always check job listed and education on the profile. Good way to tell. MUA, aestheticians, in some cases dancers (by that age they're on the down side), are a great well to tap. Just my 2 cents.

  13. #384
    Quote Originally Posted by ItsHowdyDoody  [View Original Post]
    Frankly, if you are worried about a subscription cost, you won't have a lot of success. Chicago is tough, as it is more expensive. I have eaten the cost of hotels a few times mid day, with nothing to show for it. (with tenacity tho, that person ended up actually showing up after a few hotel misses, and became my regular, just grad hs, super hot chick) I am fit and have no problem meeting someone on my own, so that helps. I negotiate, but don't insult them either.

    The yuckier looking girls I won't pay anything more than a trip to a eurospa, or NG girls. Anyone over 30 I do not even bother with. (sugar daddy, not cavities) Really, since that is not my motive for the site to just have a volume of girls, I don't partake. As Kellster said some seasoned pros are on their pretending to be a bit innocent. Others are fakes, or hs girls just trying to get guys in trouble. (or scam them) You can get to know that a bit after being on there a while. This one was so hot, and so good, I almost found myself taking the bait and just sending her money for her persistence, LOL. I did not though. We had coffee for free and I moved on.

    Have tried in Michigan and Wisconsin, and they are a bit cheaper, although I did find more scammers in those areas for whatever reason.

    It really isn't an escort site. Until you find the super hot one you are looking for, can agree to something decent, and then its much better than agency. It can be much worse also though, their are no sure things.
    I don't see these problems. I spot it easily, I move on. On some points I agree. Younger is better. Naive, more pliable, physically and mentally. My 30 year old (Body 8. 5 Face Solid 8+ is much more demanding than the 24 year old. A mix of Filipino and Blonde European. Stunning natural face. A little chubby but I'm OK with it. She behaves when I'm with her and she has fun as well. Shy, smarter than she projects. To me the psychology is automatic. If you have anything your willing to share or tell me please do. Until then I will continue to hunt this playground of cuties.

  14. #383

    Is it worth?

    Frankly, if you are worried about a subscription cost, you won't have a lot of success. Chicago is tough, as it is more expensive. I have eaten the cost of hotels a few times mid day, with nothing to show for it. (with tenacity tho, that person ended up actually showing up after a few hotel misses, and became my regular, just grad hs, super hot chick) I am fit and have no problem meeting someone on my own, so that helps. I negotiate, but don't insult them either.

    The yuckier looking girls I won't pay anything more than a trip to a eurospa, or NG girls. Anyone over 30 I do not even bother with. (sugar daddy, not cavities) Really, since that is not my motive for the site to just have a volume of girls, I don't partake. As Kellster said some seasoned pros are on their pretending to be a bit innocent. Others are fakes, or hs girls just trying to get guys in trouble. (or scam them) You can get to know that a bit after being on there a while. This one was so hot, and so good, I almost found myself taking the bait and just sending her money for her persistence, LOL. I did not though. We had coffee for free and I moved on.

    Have tried in Michigan and Wisconsin, and they are a bit cheaper, although I did find more scammers in those areas for whatever reason.

    It really isn't an escort site. Until you find the super hot one you are looking for, can agree to something decent, and then its much better than agency. It can be much worse also though, their are no sure things.

  15. #382
    Quote Originally Posted by Kellster  [View Original Post]
    It depends. If money is no object than it probably is. Even if money isn't an object- many guys won't give the sugar the gals on there are looking for. How picky are you? Are you looking for 21 yr old hardbodies or if they're out of shape / stretch marks. fat, or older are you cool with that? Can you afford a nice hotel plus incidentals like a night out on the town along with their gift? I like them fit and in shape myself. Many of the replies I got back wanted 400-600+ and that wasn't necessarily an overnight more like an hour or two plus I still would have had to get a room for many of those. One asked for minimum 1000 (she was much older than 21- like 40 by the way) and I'm in relatively good shape for my age, which I turned down by the way. If you're younger and in good shape you might have more success. Now this was just for the Chicago area which is pricey. Other parts of the country are probably cheaper. So if you travel a lot that might be better- especially if your company picks up the hotel cost. The ones that say they do want to meet sometimes go dark or worse are no shows. I'm not sure why? Maybe their profiles are fake or maybe they're not serious. Whatever the reason- booking a room ahead of time is risky as you might have to eat that cost as well as your time. Also, some on there are pros pretending to be regular gals which I wasn't looking for.

    If you decide to do it- I'd only try it for a month or two. Also, there's a ton of good info on the Richmond, VA forum. I would read some of the basics and try to learn from the more experienced sugar mongers- keeping in mind that Richmond is cheaper than Chicago so the gifts are lower there.
    Wow thanks for the awsome reply will try to see what is the best thanks alot again for the advice.

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