"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Vega Wrap]

Worth it. I would never pay this most of the time, but for the amount of time spent their price was right at agency prices.

One girl was an 8 face 9 body. The other was a 10/10. Both young, pretty (one of them model pretty) very eager to please.

Nothing like a service. Very GFE and PSE. Like a hotel party with the prom queen and her best friend and they're in a freshman year college slutty phase.

BBBJ, BBFS, CIM, COF, MSOG, with video.

[Airmantroy]

Most of these are pretty solid do's. The reporting for no show is pretty weak. Thi gs happen in life so I give one 2 chances and if she cancells twice or just no show I move on. Reporting if anything they cancel her membership and she has a new one up in 10 minutes. The negotiations I leave to them. If one is out of my range I thank her and move. Lots of swers, on. If she decides to counter offer then we have a conversation. Your supposed to be sd's so trying to haggle over a few bucks tells them your pretty fake. Not sure what your posting as your income but if its above 100 k and your trying to negotiate over 100 bucks different that's a red flag. Some girls actually look at that and call you out on it. GPS is just a guys term for a girl who won't fuck him for his price. I never discuss arrangement till the end of a m / g. If your doing this online before ever meeting or just by texting you have an utr or pro. Lots of swers, CL, utr and pros have migrated to SA. You also have pro sbs you won't find anywhere else running rotations like mongers do. Now everyone has a different definition of a sb but mine is a true sb only has one sd at a time. Wants a long ltr and when she finds one her profile disappears.

I won't report them simply for no show, I would if they attempted any type of scam or pay BEFORE meet. I have my income set at 100 K which is pretty accurate. Negotiating for $100 is not being cheap, it's called maximizing my investment. GPS is a 2 type scenario, the girl who is a 7 thinks she's a 10 because somebody told her she was gorgeous and sets her rates extremely high because of it OR the girl who knows she's hot as fuck and thinks her pussy has magical powers, so she sets her price high and takes only those who are willing to pay that ridiculous amount.

I agree there are plenty of pro SB's on there that do nothing other than run a rotation, just like a touring provider does. I know, I see one all the time and it's pretty damn fun. I also agree that the true definition of a SB has been re-defined as the girls are figuring out they can get an almost unlimited supply of dick, trips, and gifts simply by seeing more than one guy. Some are very very selective in who they will see, those profiles are pretty obvious from the ones who are basically pay for play girls that want to be kept women.

[TravelinSD]

SA is a VERY diverse group of people looking for VERY diverse things. You may have to hunt for it, but pretty much whatever you want is on there somewhere. The problem is you may have to hunt for a long time and go through a bunch of duds.

For guys in their 30's you'll be VERY popular. You have cash + they would view you as actual BF material. Again, these are not all gold diggers looking for cars, jewels, etc. Don't get me wrong, some are, but most are really just looking for basic help with bills or maybe an allowance. Probably over half of those are looking for an unreasonable amount, but if you can afford 700-1500 a month, you're golden. Especially if you're in your 30's.

Guys in their 40's to early 50's are in the sugar baby sweet spot. SBs view them as being established enough to take care of them, but young enough to be viewed as still sexually desirable. I wish this site had been around when I was in my 40's. I'd be in heaven.

Once you hit mid 50's up into your 60's the pool of SBs that actually find you attractive falls off rapidly. You'll find plenty to have sex with you, but it will be mostly for the assistance. The advantage we older guys do have though is sexual experience. For most of the 20's SBs you're with, you will be the best sex they've ever had. That helps and counts for something. Then there is the smaller percentage, but not really rare group of SBs that are truly attracted to older guys. Be it for experience, wisdom, mentoring or maturity there are a pool of SBs that actually enjoy and want to spend time with you. The search is harder, but wonderful when you find it.

Good Hunting,

Travelin.

Anybody have good luck on SA who is a younger dude, like in their 30's or 40's? I could see the women more drawn to the older guys thinking they can provide a higher allowance, but younger guys with a good bank roll. Any success?

[CallMeTom]

If you just want to drop $300 with little effort and be the 4th guy of the day, go for it. Agency or indy.

So on with the class. LOL.

8. You are going to have to spend a lot of time sending out messages, and by that I mean more than just "Hi sexy". Write a few words, mention anything they have in their profile that lets them know you actually read it.

9. Move them to text as quick as possible so you can do a little background checking on them via Google, Facebook, Instagram. Some are smart enough to use a text app, most aren't. And they love taking selfies.

10. What to offer, how to discuss how much they want. I try and get them to throw out a number first, it's referred to on SA as "allowance", never call it a donation, fee, or anything that sounds hookerish. If they insist on you making the first offer, always go for a range you are comfortable with given her looks I. E. $100-300 each time we meet, maybe 2-4 times a month depending on our schedules and chemistry. This will do 2 things, it will ward off the GPS girls who want the private jet, yacht, and rolex. It lets them know they can counter at UP TO $300 (if she looks good enough) occasionally I will even drop it down to $200 if I have plenty of other hotter girls on the line. IF she comes at you with a number such as $600 per meet, ALWAYS cut that in half, and even down to $200-250 if she isn't a solid 9..

Anybody have good luck on SA who is a younger dude, like in their 30's or 40's? I could see the women more drawn to the older guys thinking they can provide a higher allowance, but younger guys with a good bank roll. Any success?

[John HandCock]

If you just want to drop $300 with little effort and be the 4th guy of the day, go for it. Agency or indy.

So on with the class. LOL.

8. You are going to have to spend a lot of time sending out messages, and by that I mean more than just "Hi sexy". Write a few words, mention anything they have in their profile that lets them know you actually read it.

9. Move them to text as quick as possible so you can do a little background checking on them via Google, Facebook, Instagram. Some are smart enough to use a text app, most aren't. And they love taking selfies.

10. What to offer, how to discuss how much they want. I try and get them to throw out a number first, it's referred to on SA as "allowance", never call it a donation, fee, or anything that sounds hookerish. If they insist on you making the first offer, always go for a range you are comfortable with given her looks I. E. $100-300 each time we meet, maybe 2-4 times a month depending on our schedules and chemistry. This will do 2 things, it will ward off the GPS girls who want the private jet, yacht, and rolex. It lets them know they can counter at UP TO $300 (if she looks good enough) occasionally I will even drop it down to $200 if I have plenty of other hotter girls on the line. IF she comes at you with a number such as $600 per meet, ALWAYS cut that in half, and even down to $200-250 if she isn't a solid 9..

Most of these are pretty solid do's. The reporting for no show is pretty weak. Thi gs happen in life so I give one 2 chances and if she cancells twice or just no show I move on. Reporting if anything they cancel her membership and she has a new one up in 10 minutes. The negotiations I leave to them. If one is out of my range I thank her and move. Lots of swers, on. If she decides to counter offer then we have a conversation. Your supposed to be sd's so trying to haggle over a few bucks tells them your pretty fake. Not sure what your posting as your income but if its above 100 k and your trying to negotiate over 100 bucks different that's a red flag. Some girls actually look at that and call you out on it. GPS is just a guys term for a girl who won't fuck him for his price. I never discuss arrangement till the end of a m / g. If your doing this online before ever meeting or just by texting you have an utr or pro. Lots of swers, CL, utr and pros have migrated to SA. You also have pro sbs you won't find anywhere else running rotations like mongers do. Now everyone has a different definition of a sb but mine is a true sb only has one sd at a time. Wants a long ltr and when she finds one her profile disappears.

[Wineman2]

I've never encountered anything like that!

Your mb is full sir.

[Airmantroy]

I've never encountered anything like that!

I have never once had a girl do any kind of research on me. Meeting in a public space is as far as it goes for 99.9% of them. There are pros on there and I'm kinda curious if they do any background checks.

[SkyHighBuilder]

Is it accurate to conclude from your post that the gals (at least enough of them) aren't insisting on your name, job info, etc. , so they can confirm who you are?

I've never encountered anything like that!

[NewAnonymousName]

So many of us are in your shoes. I use a secure text app (many use burner phones. Cheap, little ones without any features that you can hide and use exclusively for this). I've not had a whisper of trouble from anyone and don't expect any. These are not BP / CL girls that are always running an angle.

Is it accurate to conclude from your post that the gals (at least enough of them) aren't insisting on your name, job info, etc. , so they can confirm who you are?

[SkyHighBuilder]

Are any of you guys working the SA angle married? What are the strategies for communicating with the prospects, reeling them in, and then meeting them while still remaining anonymous? That's my one concern. I'm not even worried about STDs (the treatable ones, that is) given that my marriage has been sexless for a decade. But I am worried about being limited to seeing my kids only every other weekend if I wind up getting busted and divorced.

So many of us are in your shoes. I use a secure text app (many use burner phones. Cheap, little ones without any features that you can hide and use exclusively for this). I've not had a whisper of trouble from anyone and don't expect any. These are not BP / CL girls that are always running an angle.

[John HandCock]

Are any of you guys working the SA angle married? What are the strategies for communicating with the prospects, reeling them in, and then meeting them while still remaining anonymous? That's my one concern. I'm not even worried about STDs (the treatable ones, that is) given that my marriage has been sexless for a decade. But I am worried about being limited to seeing my kids only every other weekend if I wind up getting busted and divorced.

If your a monger the risk is the same on sa as whatever your doung now. Check out the Richmond Va sd / sb thread. It has thousands of pages on secret squirrel shit but the risk is the same.

[NewAnonymousName]

Are any of you guys working the SA angle married? What are the strategies for communicating with the prospects, reeling them in, and then meeting them while still remaining anonymous? That's my one concern. I'm not even worried about STDs (the treatable ones, that is) given that my marriage has been sexless for a decade. But I am worried about being limited to seeing my kids only every other weekend if I wind up getting busted and divorced.

[Zipper34]

So are there any free ones that can be passed my way? LOL.

[MoonshineXXX]

All. Follow the advice of Troy and Sky. To the letter.

BP = Checkers.

SA / SB = Chess.

Which do you want to play?

I was quickly able to line up the following:

33 year old pre-school teacher; 7+ looks /9+ performance. No Allowance Requested.

20 year old student / office worker; 7 looks /8 performance. No Allowance Requested.

23 year old student / fast food manager; 8 looks /9 performance - $100 per trip.

More waiting in the wings.

Best thing EVER! Where was this MF when I was 21?

I signed up this week and I'm finding fairly high rates. Everyone wants an ongoing thing and they want you to get a room. The hunt is kind of fun, but I can't meet weekly and I can't fork over $300 for her plus the cost of a room. Even $200 plus a room is more than I'm willing to spend so maybe I'm just too cheap for that site?

Are you guys paying for a room and giving her a big chunk?

I've found one that has said she would host for $150, but she deactivated her account as soon as we started chatting on text and she refused to say what she wanted and she made it obvious that it would be illegal for her to mention sex and money. That of course puts me on the hook legally since I'm the one that offers her a rate. Everything else about her sounds great, but something about her deactivating her account and being so cautious about the legal stuff has me a little spooked.

One other question, are you meeting in public first or going straight to business. For some reason it seems fine to meet a pro at their place, but meeting one of these girls makes me nervous. More so for safety than legal.

[Airmantroy]

If you just want to drop $300 with little effort and be the 4th guy of the day, go for it. Agency or indy.

So on with the class. LOL.

8. You are going to have to spend a lot of time sending out messages, and by that I mean more than just "Hi sexy". Write a few words, mention anything they have in their profile that lets them know you actually read it.

9. Move them to text as quick as possible so you can do a little background checking on them via Google, Facebook, Instagram. Some are smart enough to use a text app, most aren't. And they love taking selfies.

10. What to offer, how to discuss how much they want. I try and get them to throw out a number first, it's referred to on SA as "allowance", never call it a donation, fee, or anything that sounds hookerish. If they insist on you making the first offer, always go for a range you are comfortable with given her looks I. E. $100-300 each time we meet, maybe 2-4 times a month depending on our schedules and chemistry. This will do 2 things, it will ward off the GPS girls who want the private jet, yacht, and rolex. It lets them know they can counter at UP TO $300 (if she looks good enough) occasionally I will even drop it down to $200 if I have plenty of other hotter girls on the line. IF she comes at you with a number such as $600 per meet, ALWAYS cut that in half, and even down to $200-250 if she isn't a solid 9.

11. Always offer to meet in public first, it can be as cheap as a cup of coffee at Starbuck's or as nice as a dinner at STK, it's your dime spend it wisely. You are interviewing her to fuck you, not chew food at your expense.

12. NEVER EVER EVER pay them anything just to meet you, you're a fool if you do and we all know what they say about fools and money.

13. NEVER EVER EVER send them money for pictures, jeez don't you have Google and a vivid imagination?

14. The girls who message you first are desperate or trying to 1 up the competition, use caution when responding, it could be a setup for a scam.

15. NEVER discuss this site with any of them under any circumstances, it will not gain you favor with them.

16. This a big one, especially given how we like to share info. IF YOU HAVE A GIRL SCAM YOU, NO SHOW YOU, OR ROB YOU. REPORT IT TO SA. And before you block her on there, copy the link to her profile and post it here as a warning to everyone, you are allowed to do that here. Likewise, if you have a girl who is cool, and you don't mind sharing, post a link to her profile and share some insight to what kind of rate you gave, it prevents them from getting GPS.