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  1. #17396
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1255

    Credit cards

    For what it's worth it's probably better to use cash anyway. If the hobby becomes a compulsion and you use a credit card you can get in deep (no pun intended) pretty quickly. Don't spend what you don't have. As to the question of disputing the charge, you can probably get away with it once or twice. They have pretty good documentation (tip for Kelly) and they most likely have a video of you actually processing the charge yourself. So if the owner wants I suspect he can make a good case that the charge was authentic. I doubt that he would bother, but let's face, you did agree to the tip.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCat99  [View Original Post]
    I will be there when I feel comfortable financially.

    $60 credit card charge was settled this morning. I think they may use a Chinese card processing company. That's why it took so long.

    Or they delayed settlement, so I can forget.

    I have never done this before, but I decided to dispute the charge for the first time in my life.

    I wrote they can keep $20, but $60 is a little too much (I paid $40 cash tip before using credit card already.).

    I really hope she would not ask $100 suddenly. I feel I was used for her profit.

    Service was rushed and there were no interaction.

    There would not be any massage or anything until this matter will be settled.

  2. #17395

    You agreed to the amount

    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCat99  [View Original Post]
    I will be there when I feel comfortable financially.

    $60 credit card charge was settled this morning. I think they may use a Chinese card processing company. That's why it took so long.

    Or they delayed settlement, so I can forget.

    I have never done this before, but I decided to dispute the charge for the first time in my life.

    I wrote they can keep $20, but $60 is a little too much (I paid $40 cash tip before using credit card already.).

    I really hope she would not ask $100 suddenly. I feel I was used for her profit.

    Service was rushed and there were no interaction.

    There would not be any massage or anything until this matter will be settled.
    Probably shouldn't have; 80 would have been more appropriate for the service, but 100 is not out of line if it had been very good. But you agreed to it. You could have said "No" or tried to negotiate. She didn't cheat you; more like you are cheating her.

    This is one more reason why more women are demanding their tips before the service, since they can't trust the men to tip fairly. The next guy will probably have to tip up front also, and cash only. And now, the credit card processing service is one step closer to not accepting credit sales from this spa. Too many disputed charges raises flags and costs them money; they don't need the aggravation.

  3. #17394
    I have used a credit card several times and always stood next to them to make sure they put in the right amount. I used to frequent a friends place in the west burbs and she used an IPAD with the swipping hardware attached. I watched her put in the amount every time. I used a credit card at a ho house and once again stood right there while she input the charge. With that due diligence, never an issue. You disputed the charge and your bank should have no problem only authorizing what you say. I've disputed in the past and my bank always agreed with me as they should.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCat99  [View Original Post]
    I will be there when I feel comfortable financially.

    $60 credit card charge was settled this morning. I think they may use a Chinese card processing company. That's why it took so long.

    Or they delayed settlement, so I can forget.

    I have never done this before, but I decided to dispute the charge for the first time in my life.

    I wrote they can keep $20, but $60 is a little too much (I paid $40 cash tip before using credit card already.).

    I really hope she would not ask $100 suddenly. I feel I was used for her profit.

    Service was rushed and there were no interaction.

    There would not be any massage or anything until this matter will be settled.

  4. #17393

    Buyer's Remorse

    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCat99  [View Original Post]
    I will be there when I feel comfortable financially.

    $60 credit card charge was settled this morning. I think they may use a Chinese card processing company. That's why it took so long.

    Or they delayed settlement, so I can forget.

    I have never done this before, but I decided to dispute the charge for the first time in my life.

    I wrote they can keep $20, but $60 is a little too much (I paid $40 cash tip before using credit card already.).

    I really hope she would not ask $100 suddenly. I feel I was used for her profit.

    Service was rushed and there were no interaction.

    There would not be any massage or anything until this matter will be settled.
    So you agreed on a tip amount and because the charge took some time to be resolved you decided to take advantage of the situation and dispute the charges because you weren't satisfied with the services?

  5. #17392

    Credit card charged

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob521  [View Original Post]
    We are $55 / Hour since April. www.sunshinehealthmassage.com. Best to text before you come so you can be sure you can get a time. We honor appointments. I just wish people would come if they say they are going to come. Last week had someone reserve a couples massage and then not show up. Mei and Alice had to turn away walk-ins as we waited for the "no-shows". So call / text ahead, and if your plans change, please tell us. That's just a general comment, not aimed at you, Cat.

    Meanwhile thank you for your business. Bob.
    I will be there when I feel comfortable financially.

    $60 credit card charge was settled this morning. I think they may use a Chinese card processing company. That's why it took so long.

    Or they delayed settlement, so I can forget.

    I have never done this before, but I decided to dispute the charge for the first time in my life.

    I wrote they can keep $20, but $60 is a little too much (I paid $40 cash tip before using credit card already.).

    I really hope she would not ask $100 suddenly. I feel I was used for her profit.

    Service was rushed and there were no interaction.

    There would not be any massage or anything until this matter will be settled.

  6. #17391

    Did you go yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bryzzo  [View Original Post]
    http://chicago.backpage.com/Therapeu...ssage/40211901

    I know it's going to be a let down, but it's just so close to my office.
    How'd it go. Were you pleasantly surprised?

  7. #17390
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1255

    Sunshine Health

    We are $55 / Hour since April. www.sunshinehealthmassage.com. Best to text before you come so you can be sure you can get a time. We honor appointments. I just wish people would come if they say they are going to come. Last week had someone reserve a couples massage and then not show up. Mei and Alice had to turn away walk-ins as we waited for the "no-shows". So call / text ahead, and if your plans change, please tell us. That's just a general comment, not aimed at you, Cat.

    Meanwhile thank you for your business. Bob.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCat99  [View Original Post]
    I found your place.

    Is it $50 for 1 hr?

    I will definitely try it.

  8. #17389

    Sunshine Health

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob521  [View Original Post]
    Thanks, very much. Mei can always tell when one of my friends comes to the shop. They are always the most respectful and generous. Sometimes she asks me what did I tell them. I say they understand the challenges a Chinese girl has in this country. They also need a legitimate massage from time to time, and know the difference between a good legitimate massage and a bad one.
    I found your place.

    Is it $50 for 1 hr?

    I will definitely try it.

  9. #17388

    Serenity now!!

    Drove by Serenity last week and saw orange closed by City on the front door.

    No serenity for me!

    Sorry if somebody else already reported.

  10. #17387
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1255

    Bob & Mei

    Thanks, very much. Mei can always tell when one of my friends comes to the shop. They are always the most respectful and generous. Sometimes she asks me what did I tell them. I say they understand the challenges a Chinese girl has in this country. They also need a legitimate massage from time to time, and know the difference between a good legitimate massage and a bad one.

    Quote Originally Posted by HeadFirst  [View Original Post]
    I've never let one of these signs intimidate me into thinking there would be no fun here. It's nonsense. And the illustrations with the man and all his inner parts. Same thing. They don't mean a thing. Sometimes I think they're there to cover up some holes in the wall. LOL.

    Some of my best times ever in an AMP have happened with these notices hanging on the wall.

    Point is, if I'm in a dimly lit room laying naked on a massage table and an Asian female comes in and starts touching me, chances are I'm gonna have some fun. Except of course at Bob and Mei's spa. Wouldn't do that to a fellow monger. But everywhere else, game on. haha.

  11. #17386
    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCat99  [View Original Post]

    And, in this time, on the wall, paper shows, "We do regular massage only".
    I've never let one of these signs intimidate me into thinking there would be no fun here. It's nonsense. And the illustrations with the man and all his inner parts. Same thing. They don't mean a thing. Sometimes I think they're there to cover up some holes in the wall. LOL.

    Some of my best times ever in an AMP have happened with these notices hanging on the wall.

    Point is, if I'm in a dimly lit room laying naked on a massage table and an Asian female comes in and starts touching me, chances are I'm gonna have some fun. Except of course at Bob and Mei's spa. Wouldn't do that to a fellow monger. But everywhere else, game on. haha.

  12. #17385

    Kelly

    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCat99  [View Original Post]
    Thank you, man.

    Probably I won't be there for a while.

    The young Chinese girl's massage was just fine last time. I could have kept her like Grace.

    Maybe long later, I will give them some more businesses.

    Tian did not wear sexy uniform.

    Kelly wore full sexy uniform. She kept touching ass in table shower and massage. She gave me prostate massage as well.

    I feel she may lick your ass with large tip since she knows she can clean it.

    Hope this article will be good for her business.
    Where to find Kelly?

  13. #17384
    Quote Originally Posted by NotDeadYet  [View Original Post]
    That's what some would say. If you never plan on going back there, you could just consider that you got a great discount for extra service. However, if you are happy with her service and plan on returning, give it another week to see if the charge actually goes through. If not, remind her of the visit and pay her the 60 in cash; it will probably blow her mind, and you may get some brownie points. Or, she might just think that you are a sucker. Could go either way; who knows?

    Depending on the credit card servicing company, the machine sometimes need to be "closed out" at the end of the day, and this extra step sometimes doesn't get done properly and the credit to their account can get delayed, or never happen. Depending on the English reading skills of the person using the machine, the charge could inadvertently be canceled or reversed.

    You can avoid the problem by bringing enough cash with you. Personally, I wouldn't even consider using a charge or debit card for the hobby; never know when the paper trail could bite you in the ass. . .
    Thank you, man.

    Probably I won't be there for a while.

    The young Chinese girl's massage was just fine last time. I could have kept her like Grace.

    Maybe long later, I will give them some more businesses.

    Tian did not wear sexy uniform.

    Kelly wore full sexy uniform. She kept touching ass in table shower and massage. She gave me prostate massage as well.

    I feel she may lick your ass with large tip since she knows she can clean it.

    Hope this article will be good for her business.

  14. #17383
    Quote Originally Posted by RonM  [View Original Post]
    Always pay Cash for your playtime fun. No Fuss no problems. And no paper trail.
    Thank you, man.

    But, in this case, I am glad I used credit card. I felt bad since $160 was a little too much for me.

    I want to believe that they cancel the transaction since they thought $100 is enough.

    This Kelly looks attractive. She is Chinese, but maybe one of her parents is white.

    If I were you, I will have massage + table shower for $60 and pay $40 for HE.

    (Do not fall for $100 tip trap.).

    It was unique experience, but I only found CBJ is pretty much the same as HJ.

  15. #17382
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob521  [View Original Post]
    Good point. We auto-settle (upload the data) at 11:00. But a power failure or network failure could also mess up the settlement or cause it to drop a transaction. However, the fact that you saw the charge as "pending" meant that the credit card processor got the data, but posted it for further research. Construed by the CC company as a "suspicious" charge. I can only guess the shop owner (or accountant) told the CC company to void the charge.
    Thank you, man.

    But, if it's power failure, settlement process on the next day.

    I re-checked everything intensively today. Transaction is gone. It has been a week now.

    Personally, I do not know how to void it (I only know how to refund transaction.).

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