Massage Parlor Reports

[BadDances]

Just came across this on the news and wanted to share for those interested. Pine Tree spa apparently got busted.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburb...327-story.html

Yeah I didn't bother going back the first time it was busted. That said I miss Spa 7. It was a hell of a drive to get there but most of the women there were really willing. Hard to find a good AMP these days.

[ApplePiePussy]

I've only ever had one really good massage from a legit Chinese place. It was called Dao Spa on the southside. Unfortunately they shut down and the girl moved on. She was young and incredibly talented. That said, the overwhelming amount of massages from Chinese girls, whether legit or HE, have been shit. This is probably why Bob's place is so busy. I am ok with spending 70 dollars on a very good legit massage. I'm also ok spending 70 plus tip on a mediocre massage with HE from a young and attractive provider. I become furious when I spend 70 dollars on a mediocre legit massage. There is nothing worse than trying a new Chinese place, where the women are old and unattractive, the massage being mediocre making you think there is an HE coming to at least salvage the experience, and then of course nothing, besides you know, them asking for more tip because that's somehow acceptable in Chinese culture. I have my two places that I go to for a legit massages and they are most definitely not Asian. By and large Europeans give the better quality massages, with some American girls in there as well.

[Nate2012]

In general the scene sucks with some exceptions but they are few. I'm waiting for a turn around.

I may only have a few posts but I've been around all this fun for way too many years. Just starting to post.

My take on what's going on in the escorting and parlor business is:

1. There are alot more girls in this business now than 10 years ago. So they will be slow because its a buyers market here in Chicago.

2. Economy still sucks in Chicago. Hobbyist pool is not growing here to offset all the providers, so prices are dropping.

IMHO the top two buyers markets in the US are LA and Vegas. You can get high quality for low prices. Chicago is close!

Happy hunting.

[Nate2012]

Just came across this on the news and wanted to share for those interested. Pine Tree spa apparently got busted.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburb...327-story.html

Notice the ages of the three girls who got busted at Pine Tree? 50,43, 37. I find it very funny that all the TER and Rubmap reviews show the girls ages as 20-25 yo. I've been to this place.

Too many times. I used to like the place, lately its been a sex factory. And that damn doorbell!

Their ads are still up on BP.

[E2304]

I walked in without an appointment and was met by "Laura" a 30 something attractive and thin enough. 65/60 Massage, extra 10 for "shower" - declined. Very gentle, but in the end thorough and firm enough "dry" massage. Asked to upgrade to 90 min. Ended up paying 180/90 for L1 but a very relaxing massage. (My 60 Tip was frowned upon up front. I didn't begrudge the extra 20.

All in all one of my better experiences. The dry massage was well done. Subtle tease. Adequate roaming allowed without a flinch. (For my benefit I suspect) a professional Chinese MT.

[E2304]

You described our place exactly. We have an unlocked door with a fairly large lobby with two large chairs. We serve tea and coffee in addition to water and candy. Mei has actually made lunch for my friends a couple times. You can see down the hall, just as you describe. You can see all this on our web page, and Yelp, Google, and Facebook. The front room is filled with plants. Growing up on a farm in China she is compelled to plant everything she sees. But I must say, its a very pleasant atmosphere, complete with Chinese music and Buddhist chants. Our shopping center neighbors have gotten used to us and they all know we are a clean shop. Even the police are friendly to us. Mei donates to all the local charities, including the police special Olympics.

All that said, it has been a long battle. Some days, like today are slow. Others are quite busy. Yeah, people go to the chains and often get a bad massage. So what gives me comfort is our growing list of regulars, including women. And our 5-star reviews. Thank you again for those reviews and your business. Bob.

On the other hand I did get a chocolate. Tiny cup of water. LOL.

[Bob521]

You described our place exactly. We have an unlocked door with a fairly large lobby with two large chairs. We serve tea and coffee in addition to water and candy. Mei has actually made lunch for my friends a couple times. You can see down the hall, just as you describe. You can see all this on our web page, and Yelp, Google, and Facebook. The front room is filled with plants. Growing up on a farm in China she is compelled to plant everything she sees. But I must say, its a very pleasant atmosphere, complete with Chinese music and Buddhist chants. Our shopping center neighbors have gotten used to us and they all know we are a clean shop. Even the police are friendly to us. Mei donates to all the local charities, including the police special Olympics.

All that said, it has been a long battle. Some days, like today are slow. Others are quite busy. Yeah, people go to the chains and often get a bad massage. So what gives me comfort is our growing list of regulars, including women. And our 5-star reviews. Thank you again for those reviews and your business. Bob.

I think by an large legit Chinese spa's have an uphill battle that they will always face. Most men will think that Chinese and / or Korean spa's is a place for HEs, and women will tend to stay away as well. Also I think too as a general belief for me anyways, if the front door is locked and you have to press a door bell and have MMS let you in, that to me is a place for extra services. I know that there are a few exceptions to that, but for the most part if the front door is not locked, and there is a waiting room, and you can see down the hallway, you are at a legit spa.

I would fathom that when most people think about going to get a legit massage they tend to go to the large chain facilities as opposed to a local Chinese spa which can offer great massages.

[BlueUc]

Oh yes. We do display all licenses, and, in fact, it is required by the village. Background / FBI checks are also required. Hell, they even did a background check on me. Our business strategy is to make sure everybody knows we are legit. When a guy walks in asking for extras and she refuses him, everybody loses. But when a customer, a forum member, comes to our store, he knows he will get a great legit massage from a nice person. Forum members are some of our nicest customers.

I think by an large legit Chinese spa's have an uphill battle that they will always face. Most men will think that Chinese and / or Korean spa's is a place for HEs, and women will tend to stay away as well. Also I think too as a general belief for me anyways, if the front door is locked and you have to press a door bell and have MMS let you in, that to me is a place for extra services. I know that there are a few exceptions to that, but for the most part if the front door is not locked, and there is a waiting room, and you can see down the hallway, you are at a legit spa.

I would fathom that when most people think about going to get a legit massage they tend to go to the large chain facilities as opposed to a local Chinese spa which can offer great massages.

[DMichaels69]

And they need to be a lot smarter which probably won't happen.

If true, would not the appropriate responsive business strategy be to exhibit licenses, when they exist, on the walls in the lobby as evidence of the bona fides of the establishment? It would seem that the business with the most licenses, prominently displayed / advertised would be less susceptible to harassment or license checks / enforcement, and thus, be in a competitively more advantageous position in the market.

[MeLoveuLonTime]

Just came across this on the news and wanted to share for those interested. Pine Tree spa apparently got busted.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburb...327-story.html

[Jvaldez]

Yes. Gave them a try. Provider had a fine set of 36 DDs which came out during the nice HJ. . 60 at the door and. 50 tip = 1. 1 total damage. They have 2 rooms, but the walls don't go all the way to the ceiling, so if there is a monger in the other room, you will hear what's going on and vice versa.

Had this dream today. I have been trying to dream of hot latinas but none are near my area. I was left speechless today. The fees were the same as above. What a curvy Latina. Just the way I like them. Curvy MILF with a slim waist.

[Bob521]

Oh yes. We do display all licenses, and, in fact, it is required by the village. Background / FBI checks are also required. Hell, they even did a background check on me. Our business strategy is to make sure everybody knows we are legit. When a guy walks in asking for extras and she refuses him, everybody loses. But when a customer, a forum member, comes to our store, he knows he will get a great legit massage from a nice person. Forum members are some of our nicest customers.

If true, would not the appropriate responsive business strategy be to exhibit licenses, when they exist, on the walls in the lobby as evidence of the bona fides of the establishment? It would seem that the business with the most licenses, prominently displayed / advertised would be less susceptible to harassment or license checks / enforcement, and thus, be in a competitively more advantageous position in the market.

[ChineseDragon]

Some of the recent spa issues could possibly have been avoided if they did not draw attention to themselves. Until the recent issue at the flower shop within 10 minutes of getting in the massage room and worst case end of the massage, anything was offered. A little due diligence can go a long way.

What's that have to do about being slow? Lots of guys go for hhr and have to hurry up. Maybe it's the quality of the massage therapist they are too old.

[DMichaels69]

Some of the recent spa issues could possibly have been avoided if they did not draw attention to themselves. Until the recent issue at the flower shop within 10 minutes of getting in the massage room and worst case end of the massage, anything was offered. A little due diligence can go a long way.

The feedback I have gotten centers around a general change in the type and level of enforcement. License checks are now a significant part of enforcement, (vs prostitution stings). The ability to obtain licenses is much harder these days with more schools closing down. And, finally, the new Federal Administration has taken a significantly more aggressive stance with respect to immigration enforcement. So the penalty for messing up is very steep. As a result, people are much more cautious. Take that one step further and it means your odds of getting extras has declined. So perhaps you are less likely to go for a massage. I guess the other trend. Asking for tips up front. Might be the result of supply and demand. If they know you have fewer alternatives, they might be more inclined to get greedy. And, if business is slow, perhaps they try to maximize the cash from the customers that do appear.

[Pilatus65]

The feedback I have gotten centers around a general change in the type and level of enforcement. License checks are now a significant part of enforcement, (vs prostitution stings). The ability to obtain licenses is much harder these days with more schools closing down. And, finally, the new Federal Administration has taken a significantly more aggressive stance with respect to immigration enforcement. So the penalty for messing up is very steep. As a result, people are much more cautious. Take that one step further and it means your odds of getting extras has declined. So perhaps you are less likely to go for a massage. I guess the other trend. Asking for tips up front. Might be the result of supply and demand. If they know you have fewer alternatives, they might be more inclined to get greedy. And, if business is slow, perhaps they try to maximize the cash from the customers that do appear.

If true, would not the appropriate responsive business strategy be to exhibit licenses, when they exist, on the walls in the lobby as evidence of the bona fides of the establishment? It would seem that the business with the most licenses, prominently displayed / advertised would be less susceptible to harassment or license checks / enforcement, and thus, be in a competitively more advantageous position in the market.