Massage Parlor Reports

[Kalani69]

Montreal is in Quebec. Saying you're going to Quebec and Montreal is like saying you are going to California and Los Angeles. .

Sorry, I meant to say I'm going to Quebec City and Montreal, which are two different cities. Picky, picky. LOL.

[BotoMoco]

Although it's uncertain what the police will do, there may now sometimes be more potential for trouble. As previously posted:

Whoa. No shit. Thats really fucked up. I never thought of it in that light. You're so right if the MP is charged with human trafficking then of course the girl is the victim and a monger would be the unknown accomplice to the fact you are fucking someone who is considered to be in the human trafficking light. That's so fucked up. I would hate to be the first example of a bust that goes down and they pin a monger for that too. That pretty much changes the ball game right there. This shit got serious fast. Hopefully we can line up some outcalls where you wouldn't even have to go to the MPs. There is a higher risk now visiting those places. Don't know what to say about this but Fuck.

[Redneck 1]

Used to be, if a monger was unfortunate enough to be present in a local AMP when a LE bust went down, the monger would be allowed to leave without so much as a hand-slap by LE, or this is the impression I had gotten in the past from reading this board. In terms of new laws, is a monger potentially in more trouble these days in the scenario I just outlined?

Although it's uncertain what the police will do, there may now sometimes be more potential for trouble. As previously posted:

I haven't read the actual language of the new law, but what I'm wondering is if it will result in stronger penalties against any monger who is busted while being with a working girl.

Yes, in some instances. Here's an example that involves only adults. Simply paying, or offering or agreeing to pay, a fee to engage in sexual conduct with an adult has usually been a petty misdemeanor in Hawaii. Pursuant to the new law, however, if the adult "is a victim of sex trafficking," the offense becomes a class C felony, punishable by up to five years of imprisonment and up to a $10,000 fine. The customer or potential customer doesn't need to know for sure that the adult provider is a victim of sex trafficking, because the new law says that even "reckless disregard of the fact that the other person is a victim of sex trafficking" is sufficient. An adult provider is considered a victim of sex trafficking if the provider was compelled or induced by a pimp, so-called boyfriend, or anyone else "by force, threat, fraud, or intimidation to engage in prostitution". So in light of the new law, mongers should be extra careful that a provider isn't being compelled or induced by anyone, by force, threat, fraud or intimidation, to engage in prostitution. The law also provides that a victim of sex trafficking can file a civil lawsuit against someone who "hired, or attempted to hire the individual to engage in prostitution, when a reasonable person would believe that the individual was coerced into prostitution by another person or was being subjected to sex trafficking".

[Little Dickie]

Don't you mean further EAST toward Quebec and Montreal? Vancouver is in British Columbia, the western most Canadian province. Wouldn't want mongers to think it's a short plane ride to hit on dem frenchies. Actually on my way to both Quebec and Montreal next month. Will report on and any successful AMP runs.

Montreal is in Quebec. Saying you're going to Quebec and Montreal is like saying you are going to California and Los Angeles. .

[Cosmic Kid]

I think if Kaneshiro is looking for human trafficking he will have no problem finding it in the MPs. I don't really know what the definition of the law is but. 99 percent of those girls are not residents of Hawaii. They all come from different states to work here. In that light. That's where the trafficking comes in. Being held against their will is totally bullshit everyone knows they basically come on their free will to check out the work scene here. Some like it and some leave in week or two. But on the trafficking side. None will back up the Mama or owner if they were to be questioned or arrested thus easy case for states evidence. They will probably say they were asked to work there or brought in and being from a different state perhaps the trafficking laws apply. They are using that new law they passed on human trafficking and it is scary if you think of it. 5 girls come in to work and you get 5 counts of trafficking. It would make an owner think twice about staying open or closing. Theres always the ones that will say its not going to happen to me or the ones that will hire a lawyer to stay open. In any case I'm sure what's going to happen is. The bigger popular places will hire legal counsel to get around this and stay open. The smaller places will fall to the wayside and probably there will be more indys popping up. All I know is I'm not stopping at this moment so enjoy this time when its still good. Happy fucking boys.

Used to be, if a monger was unfortunate enough to be present in a local AMP when a LE bust went down, the monger would be allowed to leave without so much as a hand-slap by LE, or this is the impression I had gotten in the past from reading this board. In terms of new laws, is a monger potentially in more trouble these days in the scenario I just outlined?

[BotoMoco]

I think if Kaneshiro is looking for human trafficking he will have no problem finding it in the MPs. I don't really know what the definition of the law is but. 99 percent of those girls are not residents of Hawaii. They all come from different states to work here. In that light. That's where the trafficking comes in. Being held against their will is totally bullshit everyone knows they basically come on their free will to check out the work scene here. Some like it and some leave in week or two. But on the trafficking side. None will back up the Mama or owner if they were to be questioned or arrested thus easy case for states evidence. They will probably say they were asked to work there or brought in and being from a different state perhaps the trafficking laws apply. They are using that new law they passed on human trafficking and it is scary if you think of it. 5 girls come in to work and you get 5 counts of trafficking. It would make an owner think twice about staying open or closing. Theres always the ones that will say its not going to happen to me or the ones that will hire a lawyer to stay open. In any case I'm sure what's going to happen is. The bigger popular places will hire legal counsel to get around this and stay open. The smaller places will fall to the wayside and probably there will be more indys popping up. All I know is I'm not stopping at this moment so enjoy this time when its still good. Happy fucking boys.

[Harry5142]

Kaneshiro says, "Human trafficking is a growing concern and we have created a unit tasked with investigating and charging owners of brothels operating as massage parlors and relaxation salons." This is guilt by association and a false premise right from the word go. Since when is or has human trafficking been going on in the AMPs? He's not going to shut down human trafficking by going after the parlors! Two entirely separate issues. Totally bogus. Yet, Kaneshiro probably will get away with this because Americans were stupid enough to go along with the invasion of Iraq which nation had nothing to do with 9/11, and locally the citizens of Hawaii were gullible enough to allow themselves to get roped into the fucking choo-choo-train fiasco.

Kaneshiro doesn't know what he's talking about. Look for trafficked women in AMPs is a bit of a waste; most of the girls I've encountered tell me that they choose to be AMP workers; they have their reasons, love of sex, deciding that if they going to fuck the may as well make a buck (monetizing the pussy), need money to finance lifestyle or raise kids, college etc.

The way these girls move from place to place so freely, I doubt that they are being forced by some gangster or trafficker to be in the business.

[Harry5142]

Orchid Relaxation seems to be shutdown. A sign on the door says "Closed for Business".

A mere formality; Orchids, for all intents and purposes, has been "closed" for years. I remember when that place had good talent; black, local, white and asian women that were young, beautiful and fun to fuck. It's in a fantastic location for an AMP next door to one of the most popular strip clubs on Oahu, a first stop for a strip club patron looking to relieve the blue balls.

It's amazing to me how a simple formula gets messed up.

[Cosmic Kid]

I debated whether to post this on the news forum or the massage parlor reports forum. I thought more would read if it was posted here. Here goes: http://www.civilbeat.org/2016/09/can...ith-kaneshiro/.

Kaneshiro says, "Human trafficking is a growing concern and we have created a unit tasked with investigating and charging owners of brothels operating as massage parlors and relaxation salons." This is guilt by association and a false premise right from the word go. Since when is or has human trafficking been going on in the AMPs? He's not going to shut down human trafficking by going after the parlors! Two entirely separate issues. Totally bogus. Yet, Kaneshiro probably will get away with this because Americans were stupid enough to go along with the invasion of Iraq which nation had nothing to do with 9/11, and locally the citizens of Hawaii were gullible enough to allow themselves to get roped into the fucking choo-choo-train fiasco.

[ByTheBook]

I did a double take that 2 popular girls went to a relatively obscure AMP that almost nobody talks about.

For me, Monica and Paula are both 3-peat girls from the past. Been there, done that.

3 Peat. They are worth a double-double. Remember Monica did not do much girl-on-girl until Paula did 3-some with her and TL6969. Wish I was there, I would do a 2 hr session with Paula and Monica every other day. Oh the fun I am missing.

[Niceguy808]

Orchid Relaxation seems to be shutdown. A sign on the door says "Closed for Business".

[UncleHappy]

Just stopping by to add my 2 cents. I'm stationed on the mainland now and am only back here for a short while on a special project. After the long flight and usual airport hassles, I'm ready for a good massage so headed to my home-away-from-home at Penny's on Beretania. I like the fact that she's in a small cottage, so it kind of is like a home. After calling ahead to make sure she'd be available, Penny greeted me at the door and I was immediately ready to go as she looked so nice and tasty in her short negligee. She was clearly happy to see me again after so long and gave me a big hug. But then she gave me the bad news as she has a problem with her arm which has stopped her from working for the moment. I was more than disappointed as I had been anticipating Penny's great massage, but she introduced me to her friend Kimmie who would be happy to service me.

Kimmie looks to be around 40 or so, maybe about 5' 3" without the heels she was wearing. I was still smarting from not being able to partake of Penny's charms, but was intrigued enough by Kimmie to give it a go. Of the two available rooms, I always choose the one with the mattress. After I undressed and got comfortable, Kimmie arrived wearing a short, cute dress which nicely presented her body. She explained that as Penny told her I was an old friend of hers, she could be relaxed with me without the usual song and dance.

We started the massage, I told her the stronger and deeper, the better. She wasn't quite able to do it as hard as I like, but it was hard and deep enough to satisfy me. I could tell that she worked hard to please me. After about 30 minutes of getting more relaxed, I told her I wanted to move on to other things as I was horny from so much traveling with no recent release. She then started to run her finger tips over and around my butt, thighs, and the boys, which got me stiff in short order. She told me to turn over and stood up to remove her dress and panties. I was pleased and told her I liked what I saw. I went to town on sucking and licking her natural B breasts and small perky nipples. Eventually worked my way down to munch on her kitty, which is sparsely furred on top and shaved on the sides. Spend a fair amount of time there, until her breath deepened and she appeared to cum gently. As she had just received her desert, I felt free to have her in several different positions and finished in doggy my favorite. She was willing and open to do all that I suggested.

I had a nice, relaxing, pleasurable time with her and she appreciated that I took care of her and treated her with respect. Her English is limited, but never so much that it got in the way of the proceedings. So if it's a middle aged Korean woman you'd like, one who is friendly and service oriented, then I'd recommend Kimmie.

Over and out until next time.

Thanks for the great review. I've been interested in checking out Penny's, but the parking out front seems a little too obvious. What do you recommend for parking?

[Goser]

Yes, this is quite relevant to the topic of massage parlors and relaxation spas. The question for the prosecutor was: "What do you see as the most pressing issue facing your office? What will you do about it?" The prosecutor's answer: "Human trafficking is a growing concern and we have created a unit tasked with investigating and charging the owners of brothels operating as massage parlors or 'relaxation salons.' Our other priorities are elder abuse, sex assault, domestic violence, drugs, animal cruelty and cyber crimes". (Underlining added.) This almost ensures that there will be more arrests and prosecutions in the future. Having "created a unit tasked with investigating and charging the owners of brothels operating as massage parlors or relaxation salons," that unit needs to try to justify its existence. So-called "human trafficking" will likely be given as broad an interpretation as possible in order to create a purported basis for further arrests and prosecutions. For the prosecutor, it seems that targeting massage/relaxation businesses where sexual services are available is more important or at least equally as important as combating illegal drugs, sexual assault, domestic violence, elder abuse, etc., which is bad news for the owners/operators of such massage/relaxation businesses.

If I owned an AMP, I would invite Kaneshiro out for lunch and ask him what his concerns are regarding human trafficking. Then, I would ask him straight up. Are you targeting AMPs to shut them down? Or, are you actually trying to solve the problem of human trafficking? He would lie and say that he is targeting human trafficking. Then, I'd ask him what it looks like to him. Then, I woudl show him all of my documentation and how all of my girls are legal and working here of their own free will. What that will do is set his sites on other targets first as he will know that he won't be able to get me because I will have a deep paper trail demonstrating that my business is clean. In the end, that will be the purpose of the meeting.

[Mongers Rus]

Yes, this is quite relevant to the topic of massage parlors and relaxation spas. The question for the prosecutor was: "What do you see as the most pressing issue facing your office? What will you do about it?" The prosecutor's answer: "Human trafficking is a growing concern and we have created a unit tasked with investigating and charging the owners of brothels operating as massage parlors or 'relaxation salons.' Our other priorities are elder abuse, sex assault, domestic violence, drugs, animal cruelty and cyber crimes". (Underlining added.) This almost ensures that there will be more arrests and prosecutions in the future. Having "created a unit tasked with investigating and charging the owners of brothels operating as massage parlors or relaxation salons," that unit needs to try to justify its existence. So-called "human trafficking" will likely be given as broad an interpretation as possible in order to create a purported basis for further arrests and prosecutions. For the prosecutor, it seems that targeting massage/relaxation businesses where sexual services are available is more important or at least equally as important as combating illegal drugs, sexual assault, domestic violence, elder abuse, etc., which is bad news for the owners/operators of such massage/relaxation businesses.

As I stated in a previous report. Monger many and frequent. Soon even Mongers may come to an end, but only because there won't be anyplace to go.

Rus.

[Redneck 1]

I debated whether to post this on the news forum or the massage parlor reports forum. I thought more would read if it was posted here.

Yes, this is quite relevant to the topic of massage parlors and relaxation spas. The question for the prosecutor was: "What do you see as the most pressing issue facing your office? What will you do about it?" The prosecutor's answer: "Human trafficking is a growing concern and we have created a unit tasked with investigating and charging the owners of brothels operating as massage parlors or 'relaxation salons.' Our other priorities are elder abuse, sex assault, domestic violence, drugs, animal cruelty and cyber crimes". (Underlining added.) This almost ensures that there will be more arrests and prosecutions in the future. Having "created a unit tasked with investigating and charging the owners of brothels operating as massage parlors or relaxation salons," that unit needs to try to justify its existence. So-called "human trafficking" will likely be given as broad an interpretation as possible in order to create a purported basis for further arrests and prosecutions. For the prosecutor, it seems that targeting massage/relaxation businesses where sexual services are available is more important or at least equally as important as combating illegal drugs, sexual assault, domestic violence, elder abuse, etc., which is bad news for the owners/operators of such massage/relaxation businesses.