Massage Parlor Reports

**Jammin 2** · 04-16-16 16:12

Originally Posted by DMichaels69 [View Original Post]

Workers in the massage area not sanitizing. I don't even want to think about that one. LOL.

Forget massage, it takes too many square feet. Combine bubble or hot tea with Chinese salty snacks, and you could have a hopping mad business. Sexy waitresses in qipao dresses for the cherry on top.

**Bob521** · 04-16-16 16:04

She and I agree she needs to get a couple things done first so she can legally be the owner of the place. I can't be the owner as it leaves a massive paper trail the my wife would discover.

So immigration status needs to be cleared up. And she will get a drivers license and finish her English training.

Meanwhile, we'll be doing more market research and preparing a budget and financial plan. Only then can I raise capital and put my cash in as well. So, as you can see, it will take a while. The initial thing is to explore the feasibility: Namely, would people want to go. The answer is (1) American men would go, only if there are Chinese women. (2) Chinese women would go if there are American men (and money). (3) Chinese men would go of there is Mah Jong, chess, smoking, etc. (4) American women will not go.

The tricky thing is "revenue collected per hour". We went to a Kung Fu Tea yesterday. Had two fruit teas (like a smoothie) and a couple items to eat. $20. In 40 minutes, they did about $250 in revenue. I watched and counted customers. 90% take out. So its a great model, but not what "L" wants. Also the start-up investment is probably $200 k. The rent in that location (China Place mall) has to be at least $5 k per month. Maybe $10 k. So I have a lot to consider. We (she and I) really want something simple. Bob.

Originally Posted by Hrodebert [View Original Post]

For all the bribes you will need to pay.

**George W. Bush** · 04-16-16 10:13

Originally Posted by Angai [View Original Post]

http://chicago.backpage.com/Therapeu...-want/36279119

Seems like something my uncle LEO would post. Anyone been there?

Lots of hits on Tineye for the photos. That ain't her.

**Hrodebert** · 04-16-16 01:47

For all the bribes you will need to pay.

Originally Posted by Bob521 [View Original Post]

Don't wait for me. Go ahead and visit. This project will take time. Heck, it might not happen if I can't get the pieces to fit together. Ask other members their preferences for Chinatown locations (SPAs I assume). I've only gone to places my friends have worked, so I don't have a reliable recommendation. Mostly, I go to their apartments / hotels. Bob.

**Bob521** · 04-16-16 00:39

The members of this forum have been very helpful. "L"'s friends have also been helpful. It's almost like the bar "Cheers" where everybody knows your name. There are places like this in China and tons of Chinese friends are describing their version of "Cheers". The idea of a comfortable place where people can hang out really resonates universally.

Originally Posted by Garbonzo [View Original Post]

One quick random thought -- do you or your partner know people (or know people who know people) who have experience with / can smooth the various code / new business hoops in the city? I've heard stories about how having someone who knows how things really work makes this easier.

I don't think not having someone would make it a non-starter, but it could make things easier. If you don't have someone, it might be worth the effort to tap whatever networks you have to find someone. I'd pass on a name if I had one. Good luck to you!

**BenBeck** · 04-15-16 18:28

Originally Posted by Angai [View Original Post]

http://chicago.backpage.com/Therapeu...-want/36279119

Seems like something my uncle LEO would post. Anyone been there?

Never been there, but I'm with you: the misspellings and grammar sound forced, as if somebody tried to sound like a non-native English speaker.

BB.

**Angai** · 04-15-16 17:54

http://chicago.backpage.com/Therapeu...-want/36279119

Seems like something my uncle LEO would post. Anyone been there?

**Garbonzo** · 04-15-16 12:58

Originally Posted by Bob521 [View Original Post]

This project will take time. Heck, it might not happen if I can't get the pieces to fit together... Bob.

One quick random thought -- do you or your partner know people (or know people who know people) who have experience with / can smooth the various code / new business hoops in the city? I've heard stories about how having someone who knows how things really work makes this easier.

I don't think not having someone would make it a non-starter, but it could make things easier. If you don't have someone, it might be worth the effort to tap whatever networks you have to find someone. I'd pass on a name if I had one. Good luck to you!

**Bob521** · 04-15-16 01:13

Don't wait for me. Go ahead and visit. This project will take time. Heck, it might not happen if I can't get the pieces to fit together. Ask other members their preferences for Chinatown locations (SPAs I assume). I've only gone to places my friends have worked, so I don't have a reliable recommendation. Mostly, I go to their apartments / hotels. Bob.

Originally Posted by MotorCity77 [View Original Post]

Bob as you know I'm new to the Chicago area. Should I visit Chinatown for the first time now or wait until you get this up and operational?! I think in the short term your business idea should at least be able to cover a lease and insurance. I hope this becomes a reality for both of you.

**Bob521** · 04-15-16 00:59

I completely agree with you. No nudity in the "House". Yeah, the licensing scares me. But I will be trying to involve people with specific expertise in food service, real estate, etc. My objective is to identify stakeholders and bring them into the deal. On the one hand it will be an interesting social experiment which hopefully will benefit men and women. On the other hand Chinese culture and charity are close to L's heart. I've told you (all) before she's a devout Buddhist. She plans to give her profits to homeless charities in the US and charities in Tibet. I also mentioned before that's she's been refusing massage tips from me for the last five months. So we agreed I would donate that money to charity. Which I now do. Bob.

Originally Posted by WhiteRookDown [View Original Post]

Crazy idea, indeed. Plan on lots of licensing, especially if food is involved. Health Department, sanitation, refrigeration and heating, building codes, etc. Any type of food is subject to a host of regulation, mostly involving temperature. Believe it or not, there are even regulations for candy bars at a store. Then comes zoning, the mix of public food service and private club, employee certifications, immigration regulations (although Chicago is a sanctuary city), and the probable sticky wicket (wordplay intended) of food and drink being served in close proximity to naked bodies, and the obvious possibility of cross contamination. Workers in the massage area not sanitizing adequately before handling / serving food and drink, and vice versa. Good Luck.

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**Bob521** · 04-15-16 00:46

Originally Posted by ChezBone [View Original Post]

Bob. Here is an article about 18 different tea franchises. This should give you more ideas about a tea house. You already know all about the popularity of coffee franchises. But if tea is more of your thing. http://ow.ly/10D7KT.

Thanks man. We have been looking at places to get ideas. Obviously, coffee shops is similar. L tells me that in China it is not uncommon for folks to get a pot of tea with a fruit plate and kill two hours. I tried to explain, we'd go out of business at that time / revenue ratio. Bob.

**Bob521** · 04-15-16 00:36

Yeah, I pushed back on that idea also.

It might be interesting to allow girls (on their own as entepreneurs) to hang out in the store and offer neck / shoulder massages at the bar / your table. Five minutes / $5 tip. Whatever. Almost like speed dating, LOL.

We are trying to figure out the best way to get pretty Chinese girls to show up. If they come, so will guys. "L" says they are motivated by money. If if they are not working in a spa, they will still want to kill a couple hours and maybe collect some tip money.

If a guy and a girl hit it off and want to pursue a relationship, that's great. We would never condone solicitation. But a genuine friendship is what we hope to achieve.

I also agree with what everybody has said, the business operations and paperwork is not very appealing. I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible. Bob.

Originally Posted by DMichaels69 [View Original Post]

Workers in the massage area not sanitizing. I don't even want to think about that one. LOL.

**Bob521** · 04-15-16 00:21

Hey Joe, sorry. I cleared some space. Sorry. Thanks again. Bob.

Originally Posted by AvgJoe [View Original Post]

Bob, clean out your inbox. I think it's full.

**BenBeck** · 04-14-16 14:18

Originally Posted by Sleeker [View Original Post]

Is she new?

Michelle a. K. a. Lily if we're talking about the same girl. From your description, sounds like it.

Not new, no.

**Satriani** · 04-14-16 10:37

Originally Posted by LongRanger99 [View Original Post]

If you like the straight and narrow then go to one of these massage places. You won't even be teased.

Sunflower Massage SPA.

3005 S ARCHER AVE.

CHICAGO IL 60608.

773-570-5598.

HQ Spa.

2953 S Archer Ave.

Chicago, IL 60608.

773 847-7375.

At HQ I've had a few releases I with the top down and some great teasing before and during s service but I will have to admit that that is not the usual. Usually just undraped ok rub.