"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Donwhite]

How do you all deal with potential sbs that ask to see your facebook page or proof of who you are? I had one asked me today and I said that I wasn't comfortable giving out my personal information like where I work and relatives info etc. Then she said for a picture of my driver's license. I said no thank you and good luck to you. It was a shame, because she was hot and I had even video chatted with her. I just don't want anyone coming to my place of work or trying to get in touch with my relatives and coworkers.

[ReaperGuy]

I wouldn't trust a 19 year old to tell me anything about timing her fertility cycle. Be wary of going in raw and having her grab you and pull you in so you can't pull out either.

So after ditching my first attempts in the bowl (3 of which were sucessful FC visits, 2 didn't pan out), have 4 pots lined up right now I'm working on:

#1 35 year old MILF. We negotiated a rate of 275/ visit up front, she clearly knew what she was doing and was easy to talk to. Little higher than I like, but she has a gas guzzling SUV and I'm pretty sure on our first visit I'm going to be smashing her ass from behind in the backseat area of said SUV so I'm ok with it. 7/7 in the looks department from pictures, I have the feeling in person might be better. Long distance trip for this one so I plan to only see her once a month, maybe twice tops. Hope the payout is worth it, if it isn't I might cut her loose due to the cost and the distance.

#2 29 year old - 8/6, she put on some weight that she's trying to burn off and I can respect that. Has natural red hair, a big+ for me. We traded dirty pictures back and forth, she wants to get to know me better before FC so we've already gone on one date. Had some real chemistry and I hope this one works out. Have not discussed funds yet, I'm getting the vibe that she just wants a fuckbuddy and I am ok with that.

#3 19 year old. Very large breasted young girl that is very submissive. We were texting back and forth to talk about what we're looking for and she left an opening for me to ask about pictures, she pretended she didn't like doing them then sent me some rather exquisite photos of her uncovered DD chest while biting her lip. I proceeded to tell her to take a few more for me in various poses and she responded 'yes sir'. We have a meetup scheduled for Thursday, she was very open about wanting some daddy dick so I will hopefully be drained shortly after dinner. Funds haven't been discussed yet, plan to do so at the meetup. I haven't had luck discussing funds up front with most of the young girls, the older ones are usually easy to talk to about it.

#4 19 year old. Very inexperienced girl looking for daddy to teach her about life and sex, said she has only been with one boy in high school. Sent me some pictures (are you seeing a trend here?) after I asked for them and she has the sweetest looking pussy I've seen in a while. Very receptive to comments and suggestion, going to try to visit her this week somehow and see if I can get a sample. Isn't asking for much, cares more about guidance and mentoring than money. Has the potential to be The Dream, the young one you can mold to be what you want.

Definitely in the feast part of 'feast or famine', I've been actively turning away contacts at this point. 2 of the 4 pots I have right now contacted me, not vice versa, which I found amazing.

Update on standings-.

#1: Haven't had a meetup yet, going to try to line something up this week though.

#2: Did an initial meetup and we had some real chemistry, have a confirmed FC visit tomorrow after lunch at her place. Expecting good things from this one, we've had a lot of conversation about tomorrow's visit and expectations.

#3: Ended up being out of my price range, next'd her prior to M&G. Have a feeling I'll here back from her eventually when she can't find someone offering what she wants.

#4: Also a FC visit tomorrow, we'll see if it pans out. Hopefully I won't be completely drained from #2, might be a 4 shot day.

Had a few other discussions but nothing confirmed or serious yet with some other girls (or as HWG is calling them, pre-pots).

[RedThunder]

Its a way to qualify a girls intentions.

Just want to say thanks for the guide. That really works well. Wish I'd tried SA earlier.

[Member #6951]

I came across this Pot, and she stated that she's not interested in financial aspect of it, she just want physical and mental support. Someone fun and ready to have a good time. Whose guenuine, nice and respectful. This is my first time ever coming across a Pot, who not interested in the financial aspect of it. Anybody had a similar experience? How did it turn out? How did you approach it?

It happens. I've had a few babies where fun happened without sugar. Just remember nothing in life is free and if it seems too good to be true it probably is. Mental and emotional support can be just as taxing especially if you are attached and already have other emotional responsibilities. Just remember to always be clear about expectations.

[HollywoodGuy]

About every few months I end up with about 10 or 20 POTS I never seem to get around to. So rather than making excuses I just delete them all and start over. Here is the first new batch from the last week.

A - 24, 5'9" mixed with model looks and body and close by and has a car. Definitely going to meet. Curvy spinner.

B - 18, 5'9" white latina very new to everything but ready to learn, no car. Will meet just to see if she is as kinky as I think she might be. Bigger girl with big tits.

C - 19, 5'4" AA close by and has a car, best attitude so far. For sure going to meet.

D - 18, 5'3" AA beautiful but far and no car and just turned 18, super strict parents. Might have to bite the bullet due to her looks and make the drive.

E - 18, 5'6" white latina arty girl, very far, very intelligent, no car.

UPDATE AFTER 5 DAYS.

A. 24, still in the game. Haven't met yet. Message daily (pictured a). Very tall 5'9" but in the dream girl category for me.

B. Flaked and mia. Goodbye.

C- Met and talked. No chemistry.

D. MIA.

E. Very excited about our date Sunday night (pictured e). 18, tiny body and only 5'3".

So three dropped off the list and two are still in play. I added 4 new POTS since then. I dont consider any girl a POT until I have her phone # and email address & an agreement on the sugar amount. But two girls seemed so enamored and down to earth that for the FIRST time ever I am going on a M&G with no prior talk of sugar. They are both 18 and tiny and could keep me entertained for hours. lol. They are so perfect for me that it's worth the risk.

Everyone says POT this and POT that, but from what I have read on this thread, a lot of these POT's are not POT's. They are more like pre-POTS.

IMHO it might be a little clearer and more meaningful to use the pre-POT designation if that is what the case may be. The mission statement of this thread is to disseminate the most relevant information possible, so as for all of us to sharpen our skills to the best of our abilities. I am sure in the past I have been an equal opportunity offender. In the future I will use the designations pre-POT and POT depending on which step of the ladder they are really on. According to my spreadsheet I currently have about 6 pre-POTS as well as the afore mentioned POTS.

http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivesteps - for the newbies

[HollywoodGuy]

So, I'm a newbie / lurker here just made my first post over in the Greenville, SC forum. This seems to be the go to place for SB info. I just joined SA today. I've been reading trying to figure out the best way to get results. I found your five step guide. So what does message 2 mean: 123 message? Sorry if that's a dumb question.

Its a way to qualify a girls intentions.

[FyrGuy33]

Last night I get a message from a 21 y / o pretty blonde co-ed close to me that I had talk briefly to last week. Asks if I am still interested. Sure I am. We exchange regular e-mail addresses and I go thru the 5 step e-mail. She's very interested and we set up a coffee date for this morning. Guess what? No show, no e-mail. Total silence. And, she has taken down her SA account. I'm wondering if Mommy and Daddy caught her. NEXT!

So the next is two different 20 y / o POTS I also talked with last night. Currently working on m&g's with them for next week. What IO love about SA is that there is always some new talent waiting to be scooped up.

[Member #5570]

Leading up to the end of the week, things look pretty rosie, until the last day (or the day prior to last day).

Had two POTs lined up as well as an MILF SB I had seen the past two weeks and were going to meet for some back door action. Well, she backed out with having something to do with her kid.

POT 1 is a 22 yr coed. Things look really good, conversations were great then she cancel with last minute dude to her sister needing her to help with the niece. Try to send her a couple message to reschedule, but it seems she went compltely silent. This one is as good as gone. POT 2 is a hot 21 yr black recent college grad, without job. Quite a spinner, 5'6 and very slim with a nice back. Talks before the FC date were all positive until the day before the appointed FC date, she said she needs to think about it a little more. I will give this one a few days before I get in touch with her again and see if there's a still a chance to reschedule another FC date. Doesn't look too optimistic, but at least there's still a small chance.

So, ended up with nothing for this week. Quite disappointed, and I just let my 1 month SA subscription ran out. Looks like I might need to pay up and sign on for another month.

Hope you gents are doing better.

[TravelinSD]

There's been a lot of discussion about vasectomies lately, so I thought I'd relate my recent and on-going experience.

I know this procedure is generally a simple office procedure for the large majority of people. Not to scare anyone, but I'm still going through the vasectomy from hell. I went to the urologist I've been seeing for a few years for my prostrate exams. He has best of the city awards all over the walls. During the procedure he mentioned several doctors who he's done the procedure on. The price was $800.

Things went horribly wrong. A day after the procedure my left scrotum swelled to the size of a grapefruit. By the time I got to his office Monday morning it was more like cantaloupe sized. I had two business trips planned. On his OK I made it through those with much pain and discomfort. When I returned I went through an outpatient surgery where he made an incision in my scrotum to clean out the hemorrhage. A little over a week later I'm down to the size of a nectarine.

The killer is that I had a $6300 deductible on my insurance, so my $800 vasectomy is going to end up costing me over $4 k.

I'm lucky in that I'm divorced, but for you married guys trying to do this on the sly, just be aware that it's not always a simple procedure. The real killer is that I've missed out on 3 pots during this time, LOL.

Good Hunting,

Travelin.

[Zcochran00]

So, I'm a newbie / lurker here just made my first post over in the Greenville, SC forum. This seems to be the go to place for SB info. I just joined SA today. I've been reading trying to figure out the best way to get results. I found your five step guide. So what does message 2 mean: 123 message? Sorry if that's a dumb question.

HWG did some refining of his approach over time. The "123 message" is referring to asking "what are you looking for, emotional / physical / financial support? If you look in the FAQ thread in this forum, the current version of his steps are linked there.

[Falar]

I came across this Pot, and she stated that she's not interested in financial aspect of it, she just want physical and mental support. Someone fun and ready to have a good time. Whose guenuine, nice and respectful. This is my first time ever coming across a Pot, who not interested in the financial aspect of it. Anybody had a similar experience? How did it turn out? How did you approach it?

[RedThunder]

MESSAGE 1.

Hello. I just read your profile.

So after reading my profile if you want to know more, then email me at xxx@xxx.com.

Just lmk its you by your profile name.

I do prefer a per meeting type of arrangement to start.

So if you could let me know what your expectation$ are that would be great.

MESSAGE 2 - 123 message.

MESSAGE 3.

Well every girl is on here for a reason. So let me ask you. Are you looking for the highest bidder? Because If you're going for top dollar. That won't be me.

I'm sure you will get offers of $200 to $300 a date (lots of them). And you may need at least that much just to tolerate the guys offering it.

But if you're willing to take less to be with a more chill, good looking guy (for my age that is) then we might be able to make it work. What do you think?

MESSAGE 4.

Well that's good because that's normally the type of girl I date. I pay $100 a date. Which won't cover any ones lifestyle. But it does add up. I need to have a real connection with the person I am with. Like real chemistry. Otherwise what's the point?

I understand some girls will date anyone if they pay enough. And I don't judge. I just know that for a girl to keep seeing me for a $100 a date she has to like me. At $300 a date I would never know if it was me or the cash. Does that make sense?

MESSAGE 5.

Send a long personalized intro letter explaining the details of your donation and expectations. Now when you go to the M&G you have a great chance of going straight to the FC. So be prepared.

If they go silent at any point in the process, just forget about them. If they go off the script / desired reply, just answer their question or comment directly and then go right back to the script. You have to stay in control of the conversation at all times. And try lots of things, I know I have and continue to do so. This is just what I am doing now.

Until 2 weeks ago I was just going straight to message 5. Kinda crazy but it did work enough to keep me busy. But I am finding that this multi step process is drawing out some of the more reluctant girls as well as the easy pickings. Your message 5 needs to be very compelling, erotic but not sleazy and must convey some real sincerity. Take the control they want to give you.

So, I'm a newbie / lurker here just made my first post over in the Greenville, SC forum. This seems to be the go to place for SB info. I just joined SA today. I've been reading trying to figure out the best way to get results. I found your five step guide. So what does message 2 mean: 123 message? Sorry if that's a dumb question.

[Jay101]

Thanks for the reports Craig's is a bust, which site is more productive?

Also can one get clipped in secret. Thanks for your time.

[HollywoodGuy]

So from the 5 POTS I put together last week, I met one so far and that was a no go.

Two went MIA. One is a definite date for Sunday. And the hottest one says she wants to meet this weekend. I have to squeeze in two dates with my regulars. And I have a date Friday night from a new pot from this week.

Thats five girls in 3 days. It may or may not be doable.

[HollywoodGuy]

Good reminder.

Oh Lord, I wish I were clipped.

I will get so much raw pussy. I have a 19-year old now that I know would give it to me.

Getting clipped without insurance is not cheap, as far as I know. Is it?

I think I paid 2 k. Well worth it. It's a life changer.