"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Ltnric]

Well today I met a 22 year old mixed girl I have been trying to meet up for weeks. I am really bitter and jaded with SB as I had three flake out on me in the last week. I liked her pictures so I said what the hell. She was very cute and and we talked for well over an hour and a half. I know it's bad to think this way but you would think most 22 year olds are flaky and only want to party and may not be mature. Well I was pleasantly surprised. She is smart, articulate, mature and cute as hell. We talked about everything under the sun. We made plans to meet up again and didn't talk about sugar. I mention this because sometimes in the bowl you have a great time with someone you connect and there is no sex or money exchanged. These are some of the nice surprised in this hobby.

[Buckeye66]

Yes. There is much truth to dolatos post. I attribute much of my very early and quick success in the bowl over these past few months to the pages of information that have helped my learning curve.

To all the newbies. PRTFF.

I just wanted to say thanks. I was a newbie to SA several months back and certainly my success rates have improved and costs have lowered since reading most of this forum.

I probably benefited most from Hollywood's 3 steps. Having worked some in sales it was easy to script 3 or 4 messages to reel them in and weed out those with GPS. Saves a lot of time and improves success rates substantially.

Many thanks to all.

[FredMoore]

" She is a 9/10 and we click. If the physical chemistry is there, I may drop all the other babies and focus on her. " Smellyfish.

I second the brothers' advice to ALWAYS keep a backup rotation in play. Every single time I get complacent with one baby she fades away at some point. It's nice to have that one hot one but keep #s 2 and 3 ready. There is a reason every athletic team has a bench (;.

[FotoGuy1970]

Yes. There is much truth to dolatos post. I attribute much of my very early and quick success in the bowl over these past few months to the pages of information that have helped my learning curve.

To all the newbies. PRTFF.

Exactly. At 571 pages (and that's just as of this writing), it takes some time to read through this entire thing, but it's well worth it. When I first found this forum and decided I wanted to pursue this SD life, I literally took notes. I would read the forum, come across a nugget of information I liked or felt was valuable, and I would copy and paste that info into a text document. I still have it easily accessible on my PC's desktop. So yes, it is well worth it to do your homework.

[Dolato]

So today was fruitful.

That's some good time management. Like HG said, maybe don't quite drop all the SBs so quick.

Even if the POT comes through, the SBs can be flighty and vanish into the thin air without any notice. That doesn't mean you have to maintain a large stable but it's good to have a few fallbacks just in case. You'll have to throw in the steady SB into the rotation from time to time to keep her around.

Ending up empty handed all of a sudden can lead you to act in desperation and maybe throw out your budget or something else foolish. Having a solid base of SBs to build on can let you be pickier and walk away from less than ideal situations.

[IluvSmellyFish]

HWG is probably too nice to respond. Prtff is usually written as Rtff. It means "read the effing forum".

It is an acronym that is not uncommon to many forums. I suspect HWG added the "p" to the rtff in an attempt to be gentlemanly and add a "please. ".

Rtff is often used when a newer member asks a question that has been discussed multiple times. More experienced members who have often alreadly answered a question posted by a newer member will often simply reply by writing "RTFF" since it is a PITA to explain something everytime a new member asks a question.

Long story short, if you read the forum, chances are, your question will have already been answered. There is very little that is new under the sun.

Sorry, what does that mean in plain English?

[IluvSmellyFish]

Wiser words could not have been written. I have found that it works the same in civvy dating as well. In my experience women are competitive by nature. Having options only makes them want you more. Unless they don't, at which point, having a fallback never hurts.

In any case, thanks to all the veteran brothers (hwg, JL, FM, and others) who have posted their experiences and adventures on this part of Jackson's site. The memories I have created as a result of the combined wisdom of this forum have been priceless.

Good luck, Just don't put all your sugar in one bowl.

[Bowtie]

1st got into the bowl on my own a couple of years back. While first fishing, no experience and ran into a pro that got me for $$. At least I can look back now and tell she was a pro, I didn't know that at the time. While I don't like throwing money away, that didn't bother me as much as the feeling of getting burnt. I hate that more than anything, so I started researching. Found this thread and started reading. Started at 1st post, got almost 200 pages in before I ran out of time. No time because lessons learned were paying off. While I'm not on the level with hwg (who is? I'm holding my own with 2 beautiful spinners that I see 1 or 2 times a week each along with one or two more to keep things rolling. Oh yeh, the so, can't forget the so. Fascinating reading, great bunch on here. Hell, I'm even studying psychology now to try to understand these little beauties! Always hungry!

Yes. There is much truth to dolatos post. I attribute much of my very early and quick success in the bowl over these past few months to the pages of information that have helped my learning curve.

To all the newbies. PRTFF.

[HollywoodGuy]

So today was fruitful. I came into the day with the expectation of seeing two sbs today. I had a date set up with a a pot as well and had another pot (wildcard) waiting in the wings.

The SB that had been begging for a date the past month didn't respond this morning when I texted to confirm our date. Luckily the other SB did, and the pot I have been targeting confirmed our lunch date. After getting confirmation from the trusted SB, I booked the hotel and was off to the races.

The lunch date with the pot went better than planned. We ended the date and I felt like a kid in a candy store when this sweet young thing let me kiss and pet her. She is a 9/10 and we click. If the physical chemistry is there, I may drop all the other babies and focus on her.

The fact that I was ignored by one SB gives me an excuse to cut her from my rotation. The date with the SB that confirmed was good, but while I was banging her, I had the pot I went on a date with earlier that day, on my mind the whole time. Crazy because this is the SB that is a 7 face 8 ish body but is completely wild in bed. I thought she would last at least eight dates. I was going to try to maximize my room by inviiting my wildcard pot over but she is unavailable. Which is why I write this report in the hotel room.

Right now my plan is to play it cool. I have had m&gs with pots that generated promises of trips to the FC that never materialized. My latina coed gymnist pot is a prime example (she went dark and no peep from her for a while) .

But seriously gents, if things work out with this pot, I am going to be on cloud nine. She is cute, very young and seems eager to please. Wish me luck fellahs.

Good luck, Just don't put all your sugar in one bowl.

[IluvSmellyFish]

Yes. There is much truth to dolatos post. I attribute much of my very early and quick success in the bowl over these past few months to the pages of information that have helped my learning curve.

To all the newbies. PRTFF.

Reading through the pages and pages filled with others' mistakes and success can definitely speed up the learning curve.

[IluvSmellyFish]

So today was fruitful. I came into the day with the expectation of seeing two sbs today. I had a date set up with a a pot as well and had another pot (wildcard) waiting in the wings.

The SB that had been begging for a date the past month didn't respond this morning when I texted to confirm our date. Luckily the other SB did, and the pot I have been targeting confirmed our lunch date. After getting confirmation from the trusted SB, I booked the hotel and was off to the races.

The lunch date with the pot went better than planned. We ended the date and I felt like a kid in a candy store when this sweet young thing let me kiss and pet her. She is a 9/10 and we click. If the physical chemistry is there, I may drop all the other babies and focus on her.

The fact that I was ignored by one SB gives me an excuse to cut her from my rotation. The date with the SB that confirmed was good, but while I was banging her, I had the pot I went on a date with earlier that day, on my mind the whole time. Crazy because this is the SB that is a 7 face 8 ish body but is completely wild in bed. I thought she would last at least eight dates. I was going to try to maximize my room by inviiting my wildcard pot over but she is unavailable. Which is why I write this report in the hotel room.

Right now my plan is to play it cool. I have had m&gs with pots that generated promises of trips to the FC that never materialized. My latina coed gymnist pot is a prime example (she went dark and no peep from her for a while) .

But seriously gents, if things work out with this pot, I am going to be on cloud nine. She is cute, very young and seems eager to please. Wish me luck fellahs.

[Dolato]

Of course the only way to gain these skills is to play in the bowl, put yourself at risk, and learn from experience.

Reading through the pages and pages filled with others' mistakes and success can definitely speed up the learning curve.

[IluvSmellyFish]

The best way to stay within the law is to pick up girls the old fashion way. At a bar. Notwithstanding that, if one plays the game, the possibility of running into LE or a scammers is always going to exist.

The next best way to avoid LE / blackmail / scammers is to avoid any conversation of allowances while convincing a girl to go to the FC with you and gaining the ability to read people like a professional poker player.

Of course the only way to gain these skills is to play in the bowl, put yourself at risk, and learn from experience. When I first started playing poker, I used to ask a friend how he knew when another player was bluffing or when to bluff a newbie, or how he knew when he should lay down a set of kings against trip aces. His response was that the only way to gain those skills was to lose a whole lot of money and spend lots of time playing the game.

Long story short, if you play in the bowl, you will always run the risk of getting scammed, blackmailed or being on the wrong side of LE. If those possibilities are something you can't handle, then its time to exit. Left stage.

For me personally, if my entire life was completely turned upside down by a bad encounter in the bowl. I would pick up what I had left, move to the left coast, and do what I could to turn into a professional SD.

All this talk of Uncle LEO and SD / SB has gotten me worried especially after M&G+FC with the most recent SA babe. No I did not really score she happened to be a short, thick babe within my budget of $ to $. 5.

She texted things like "looking to forward to f* you tomorrow" and when I asked her during FC if she liked to talk dirty she looked nonplussed I then reminded her of the text and she mumbled something. While texting directions to her I received "What are you expectations as far as sex. . positions. . And acts?" "Just trying to go Ahead and prepare myself mentally".

So guys a HOW TO post about staying within the law will be very helpful to us newbies to the bowl.

[HollywoodGuy]

There can be soreness with heavy usage of any parts.

If the bleeding is because the foreskin is "pulling" the skin away during sex, then circumcision can help. Of course see a doctor for that and not us internet doctors.

If the bleeding is more on the shaft due to the constant friction, then use lube. You can even use lube to ease the friction with the condom, but be careful it's not too much or it'll slip off. I always have water based lube with me. I don't need to constantly reapply with some girls, but it comes in handy and I use it generously. Just another expense to the hobby.

Have lube will travel.

[ThisSoundsFun]

PRTFF. Thanks.

Sorry, what does that mean in plain English?