Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

**Glockman** · 12-25-14 13:21

Hope your Christmas was as good as mine. This is Nicole from Wednesday. And yes, both the peppermint stick and Nicole tasted sweet!

**BuyingSmiles** · 12-24-14 23:59

And here's to a blessed New Year to all!

BuyingSmiles!

**MisforMaster** · 12-23-14 22:20

Originally Posted by WorksAlot [View Original Post]

I figured it might be worth a shot to bring it up and see if there was some way to make it safer besides one person toftt. And they have a condom law?

Yup. It's called Measure be, and it's even passed 9th Circuit Court of Appeals (muster.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measure_B

The fact that porn permits have fallen 95% year-over-year should be a great indication that it's killing Southern California's porn industry.

**WorksAlot** · 12-23-14 19:46

Originally Posted by MisforMaster [View Original Post]

You do need to have a custodian of records, however, they're only open for law enforcement (in SoCal, Law Enforcement frequently inspects these types of records). I've done 18 USC 2257 compliance in a previous life.

Another thing that you need to be aware of is the "community standards" clause -- if something is produced and it's not up to the community standards of the area (using something called the Miller Test), you can be charged with pandering obscenity:

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2907.32

Simply put, you can't do that shit in Ohio. Southern California, maybe -- but, even then, SoCal now has the Condom law for pr0 n performers, and most of that production is moving to Vegas.

I figured it might be worth a shot to bring it up and see if there was some way to make it safer besides one person toftt. And they have a condom law?

**MisforMaster** · 12-23-14 12:05

Originally Posted by Admin2 [View Original Post]

You also have to have somebody that keeps the records of real identification on all parties concerned and I think that becomes part of the public record.

You do need to have a custodian of records, however, they're only open for law enforcement (and in SoCal, Law Enforcement frequently inspects these types of records). I've done 18 USC 2257 compliance in a previous life.

Another thing that you need to be aware of is the "community standards" clause -- if something is produced and it's not up to the community standards of the area (using something called the Miller Test), you can be charged with pandering obscenity:

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2907.32

Simply put, you can't do that shit in Ohio. Southern California, maybe -- but, even then, SoCal now has the Condom law for pr0 n performers, and most of that production is moving to Vegas.

**Glockman** · 12-22-14 22:20

Originally Posted by AdamP469 [View Original Post]

If nothing else, you'd have LE charge you for making a movie without the necessary permits in certain municipalities. In others, the prosecuting attorney would ask you where your SAG card was, and when you didn't produce it, you and the provider would be found guilty for the illegal pay for play.

Why would a screen actors guild make any difference. It's purely voluntary.

**JBAir** · 12-22-14 21:45

I don't know how it varies from state to state but I'm pretty sure you have to file as a film making entity, attain the appropriate permits and even file a script.

I'm not an expert in the field in any way but I don't think you can 'legally' just make a said film.

Originally Posted by WorksAlot [View Original Post]

We all know that prostitution is illegal. We all know that porn is legal. When contacting a provider, why don't people just ask if they want to be in a porno? Make it to where the provider knows what's really going on. And after making said porno, the monger is not satisfied with it and deletes it right in front of the provider. I don't know how this would work out legally, but shouldn't we be thinking of trying to make this work? It would make it safer for everyone involved.

You also have to have somebody that keeps the records of real identification on all parties concerned and I think that becomes part of the public record.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_P...nforcement_Act

A2

**AdamP469** · 12-22-14 21:45

Originally Posted by WorksAlot [View Original Post]

We all know that prostitution is illegal. We all know that porn is legal. When contacting a provider, why don't people just ask if they want to be in a porno? Make it to where the provider knows what's really going on. And after making said porno, the monger is not satisfied with it and deletes it right in front of the provider. I don't know how this would work out legally, but shouldn't we be thinking of trying to make this work? It would make it safer for everyone involved.

If nothing else, you'd have LE charge you for making a movie without the necessary permits in certain municipalities. In others, the prosecuting attorney would ask you where your SAG card was, and when you didn't produce it, you and the provider would be found guilty for the illegal pay for play.

**WorksAlot** · 12-22-14 20:58

We all know that prostitution is illegal. We all know that porn is legal. When contacting a provider, why don't people just ask if they want to be in a porno? Make it to where the provider knows what's really going on. And after making said porno, the monger is not satisfied with it and deletes it right in front of the provider. I don't know how this would work out legally, but shouldn't we be thinking of trying to make this work? It would make it safer for everyone involved.

**TheDaytimer** · 12-21-14 19:34

Be careful - very careful.

These kind of compliments can go to A2's head. We need to keep him down to earth and humble. Merry Christmas A2 and thanks for another great year.

Originally Posted by UOnlyLiveOnce [View Original Post]

2014 may very well have been my best year in the hobby. Didn't start out good. First visit was with Melanie, who was rather impersonal to put it politely. But it got better from there. Met up with a pair of sisters (the Milford sisters) which was a first for me, in or out of the hobby. Later met with with a couple of providers (May and Remmy) who are among my ATFs. My desired age range is 18-25, and the older I get, the more I appreciate the young women in that age range. For lack of a better word, they just seem more "open" than the chicks did when I was in that age range myself.

All of this was possible because of the great intel here, the forum generously provided by Jackson and Admin2, and of course by the providers and any applicable handlers such as EE. Have a good holiday season and let's keep each other safe in 2015.

**UOnlyLiveOnce** · 12-21-14 18:24

2014 may very well have been my best year in the hobby. Didn't start out good. First visit was with Melanie, who was rather impersonal to put it politely. But it got better from there. Met up with a pair of sisters (the Milford sisters) which was a first for me, in or out of the hobby. Later met with with a couple of providers (May and Remmy) who are among my ATFs. My desired age range is 18-25, and the older I get, the more I appreciate the young women in that age range. For lack of a better word, they just seem more "open" than the chicks did when I was in that age range myself.

All of this was possible because of the great intel here, the forum generously provided by Jackson and Admin2, and of course by the providers and any applicable handlers such as EE. Have a good holiday season and let's keep each other safe in 2015.

**Selective69** · 12-16-14 01:41

Originally Posted by HarryHendryx [View Original Post]

My friend tried out the new Asian spa, and this happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btheeIEDIrE

Hysterical.

**HarryHendryx** · 12-16-14 00:16

My friend tried out the new Asian spa, and this happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btheeIEDIrE

**Pleasure4J** · 12-15-14 21:56

Originally Posted by Glockman [View Original Post]

An Octagon exclusive. For the black & white fans. Time to get our minds back in the gutter, where they belong. As you can see, despite my unheeded protests, the girls just kept on abusing me.

Please do tell. Who is the lovely lady of color?

Thanks.

**Glockman** · 12-15-14 17:11

An Octagon exclusive. For the black & white fans. Time to get our minds back in the gutter, where they belong. As you can see, despite my unheeded protests, the girls just kept on abusing me.