"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[SlowMo]

Blokes,

Just signed up for SA. Quickly stumble on this upbeat Boston girl. She was playful on email and fairly soon gave me her phone number for us to live chat a bit. She really stoke my ego, like a good SB should. Then she sent me a nice pic of her pre-run cleavage. So we setup a meeting one of those mornings. I get to her place and she welcomes me wearing a neglige showing massive cleavage and side boob. I'm thinking that it can't be that easy, and sure enough it wasn't. Turns out "slim" means different things to different people apparently. And her vocabulary would have been right at home at a truck stop. Plus the young lady has an extremely high opinion of herself. She needs her cocktails just so or she'll return them, etc. A princess really. She mentioned that her parents paid for everything until she was 26, so that explains a lot. The most I could pull off while I was there was a light foot rub. She flat out told me no sex on the first date. But she'd be happy to for $500 per week. I did manage to keep a straight face on, yet fairly soon departed. I let her know afterward that for $500 per week I could arrange a meeting with models who'd offer PSE, so I'll pass. Clearly this one hasn't flown on her own long enough. Folks in Boston, what is your experience of SB demands? Seems like college girls on the west coast can be satisfied with $100/ week. I doubt I can get that here, but any idea?

Thanks,

SM.

[UKnowWho]

you either have to tolerate getting mails you won't be able to read until you are a paying member again, or delete your account.

We should complain.

Yeah, that and girls who you're trying to keep on the back burner for the future seeing that you're logging in and therefore thinking you must be looking for someone new.

You should. I deleted my account, and wrote that in as the reason in the comment box they give you as part of the deletion process.

[Madaboutmax]

SD's don't give out contact info on their SB's. On a SW thread some guys do. Try that.

On another note. Anyone ever notice there is a higher percentage of submissive bigger girls as opposed to smaller ones? Unless they are really small then the pendulum swings back.

I agree. This thread is for sharing techniques, not for sharing SB's. It kind of defeats the purpose.

I don't know about bigger submissive girls, since I only date slim / athletic girls. I have been amazed by the high number of younger submissive girls. I think "Shades of Grey" has encouraged more girls to explore this side of their sexuality. I have actually learned to be much more dominant as a result.

[Madaboutmax]

I think Hollywood suggested something similar, but I decided to search all of the profiles that match my criteria near me. I messaged many of them that had been inactive for more than 6 months. Many had given up after not finding their ideal SD. Many had high "lifestyle budget" expectations. I asked if they were still looking and open to discussion on their budget. I was surprised by the number of responses I received by some very nice ladies. I think the best cure for GPS is time and lack of success.

Just a thought.

[JZLizard]

FYI, SA's recently changed it so unpaid accounts can no longer be hidden from search results.
I've had my profile hidden from search results for over a year now. A week or so ago I noticed I was getting emails saying I'd been viewed by women whose profiles I'd never viewed, so I wondered how they were finding mine to view me. I emailed SA support and they said they've changed it so unpaid accounts can no longer be hidden from search results.
I really think they should've sent out a notification about this change, as I used it to control who could see my profile and I imagine others do too. So, I just wanted to warn you all.

Yeah, I noticed this. Very lame, it basically means you can't just disable your account temporarily, you either have to tolerate getting mails you won't be able to read until you are a paying member again, or delete your account. I'm not sure how that works for the SB since they don't have to pay at all -- I assume they can still hide themselves from searches and reappear as needed.

We should complain.

[HollywoodGuy]

Wow nips look amazing. Any contact info for her?

SD's don't give out contact info on their SB's. On a SW thread some guys do. Try that.

On another note. Anyone ever notice there is a higher percentage of submissive bigger girls as opposed to smaller ones? Unless they are really small then the pendulum swings back.

[UKnowWho]

FYI, SA's recently changed it so unpaid accounts can no longer be hidden from search results.

I've had my profile hidden from search results for over a year now. A week or so ago I noticed I was getting emails saying I'd been viewed by women whose profiles I'd never viewed, so I wondered how they were finding mine to view me. I emailed SA support and they said they've changed it so unpaid accounts can no longer be hidden from search results.

I really think they should've sent out a notification about this change, as I used it to control who could see my profile and I imagine others do too. So, I just wanted to warn you all.

[WillStarr]

I,ve seen her 5 times in 2 months due to major distance problems. Its like a 2 hour drive. Too bad as she is a 8/9/9/9. Very normal girl. Almost too normal for me. She is a little older (28) so not too quick to make a rash decision about who she hangs with. Not sure how you guys deal with that. All the txting in the world isn't the same as seeing someone. But I am staying the course if she does.

Wow nips look amazing. Any contact info for her?

[JZLizard]

If she has your personal info that's your bad. But you haven't really stated the situation on that. Anyhow either cut contact or make a lot of business trips or come up with something else losing your job etc. You don not and probably should not have an official breakup meeting that only brings drama no point. And use escorts till your divorce is final.

I think his dilemma is that he got involved in an arrangement-turned relationship situation, though, which is kind of an unusual situation -- 90% of SDs are married, or single serial-daddies. In his case he's separated but got involved with her before his divorce was final, which makes it an even more rare situation.

It seems like a dick move (in more ways than one) but I would probably put a private investigator on the ex-wife, tailing her long enough to look for any violation of the agreement. I know, the ex-wife is not currently the problem so why throw money in that direction? Pre-emptive strike. If he can catch her in violation of the agreement first, he is mostly off the hook. At least he can say "ok, look you're busted but I can work with you on this" and have an amendment to the separation agreement drawn up that says both can date. Then he's free and clear of any threat from the SB. This of course only works if the ex-wife is actually doing something that's in violation, so it could be a waste of money.

The only other option I see that's completely is to keep things with the current SB copasetic until the finalization of the divorce.

Only thing I don't understand is there is always a "both can date" possible option in any separation agreement. If "no dating" was added for purposes to try and work out the marriage, why violate this to begin with? I'm sure that's another story in itself but bottom line is an agreement is an agreement and if you go through life signing up for promises and not keeping them, your life will continue to blow up in your face anyway. As far as damage control once a legal agreement has been breached, even the best of advice may or may not work out. I'd do whatever I have to do to ride out the agreement then see to it that I didn't make mistakes of such epic proportion again. There are no shortage of penniless, miserable, men out there living alone and barely scraping by who never learned to control sexual addiction.

[Zman429]

I'm legally separated, in the clutches of a messy divorce with many twists and turns. In the final agreement that we have both signed and was approved by the court, we are to be separated for one year and then the divorce becomes final. The settlement agreement includes me gaining complete control of a $425,000 home that is paid for. But with that clause and agreement is that during the 1 year separation period, I am not to engage in a romantic type relationship with another woman. This was set forth in that we might reconcile our differences, per her request in that year time span. I also agreed to marriage counseling. If after the end of said year, I still want to proceed, I get the house and she gets a condo in S Florida worth about half the value of the home I get. So I have $425,000 riding on her not finding out. THATS WHY just stopping all you listed is not an option. This girl will come looking and 10-1 she will find my soon to be EX wife before she finds me.

So I need a plan that causes her to go away and never even want to know who I am or was!

If she has your personal info that's your bad. But you haven't really stated the situation on that. Anyhow either cut contact or make a lot of business trips or come up with something else losing your job etc. You don not and probably should not have an official breakup meeting that only brings drama no point. And use escorts till your divorce is final.

[HollywoodGuy]

If you want top know who the pros are in your area just check out all the profiles on Friday starting at about 3 pm.

[FredMoore]

I have used this before. "man I am really sorry but my work situation and income have changed. I know I have been helping with $$I usually had a monthly allowance set up 1200 - 1500) amount per month but am not going to be able to do that much now. At best 400 - 500. Will that still work for you? They will likely move on!

If they don't end it you have yourself a discount deal. If you want them out then say you can't afford anything.

I did that and she accepted 50%, but kept asking for advances and it got to be too much of a pain in the ass.

[LikeMike1963]

I have used this before. "man I am really sorry but my work situation and income have changed. I know I have been helping with $$I usually had a monthly allowance set up 1200 - 1500) amount per month but am not going to be able to do that much now. At best 400 - 500. Will that still work for you? They will likely move on!

Very Simple Advice: Use your intelligence and savvy and work a plan to get her to dump you. Were it be through being undependable, flaky, mean, low sugar, etc. You need to change your actions to get her to drop you. I speak from experience. The best is for it to be her decision and not yours.

"Peeking In From My Asylum".

BigTigg.

[EuroInCincy]

Message the 10's all day as long as you don't mind getting the occasional disgruntled reply like the one I got this morning.

"$100 are you fucking kidding me? Every arrangement I've had is at least $500 per visit. You're gross and cheap. $100 doesn't even pay my car insurance. You're broke. ".

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLpr...rnia-SugarBaby

Lets see, at the moment I have over a dozen girls waiting for a first date that have agreed to my terms. Mostly younger and at least as good a body as hers..

Being laid back and waiting till they accept your price is the best practice, BUT it takes time, it is like the farmer. Or the hunter. The hunter spends more energy the get his 'prey' while the farmer slowly develops a whole 'herd' of willing prey.

[Rouleur]

I'm legally separated, in the clutches of a messy divorce with many twists and turns. In the final agreement that we have both signed and was approved by the court, we are to be separated for one year and then the divorce becomes final. The settlement agreement includes me gaining complete control of a $425,000 home that is paid for. But with that clause and agreement is that during the 1 year separation period, I am not to engage in a romantic type relationship with another woman. This was set forth in that we might reconcile our differences, per her request in that year time span. I also agreed to marriage counseling. If after the end of said year, I still want to proceed, I get the house and she gets a condo in S Florida worth about half the value of the home I get. So I have $425,000 riding on her not finding out. THATS WHY just stopping all you listed is not an option. This girl will come looking and 10-1 she will find my soon to be EX wife before she finds me.

So I need a plan that causes her to go away and never even want to know who I am or was!

If so, when does the one year separation period end? Are you near the end? If so, I would put this current broken relationship on cruise control until the separation period ends. The longer away from today that one year mark is, the more difficult to adhere to a cruise control strategy. Does the CrazySB know about your finances? When you were in the midst of the good times did you share a lot of personal information that now you regret sharing? If she has been kept out of the loop about your finances then I think the suggestions other Members have made are very good. Ideally, She would be put into a situation where She decided your not going to provide the nourishment she can leech from. As long as she feels you are here current and best hope, she will fight to keep you. The good news could actually be that she is still looking for others. Maybe there is another poor Fly that will land on her web and she will cast you aside for a fresh kill. In any event, I feel for you and sincerely hope you emerge from this nightmare healthy and with the increased wisdom that comes from surviving an ordeal like this. Last year I went through a divorce truly cooked in hell and, although not the same scenario as yours, I did have to fight a woman who was obsessed with destroying me.