"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[JZLizard]

Any ideas, from anyone who has been through this is welcomed! I've truly been good to this girl and never treated her badly, but I fear the gloves might need to come off. Not in an illegal manor, but just one that scares he heck out of this fake cum bucket. She is truly trash and I want her GONE!

I've been there, not with SBs because I don't give away enough info to them for it to happen and I handle them differently than civvy dates, but I've had clingy civvies go psycho. My best advice was captured in some replies I wrote a few weeks back. I don't remember exactly what I said, but since you're still talking to her, it tells me you decided my advice wasn't for you. You could also cycle back and re-read those messages to see if they sound better now. The thread is too huge and cumbersome for me to navigate back and look for them.

[FredMoore]

Long Distance Relationship:

Hollywood (I guess my question is can you really have a successful long distance relationship. ?).

Sure! It never hurts to have an excellent fuck buddy available, but it is too far to want to do regularly with so much local talent.

[HollywoodGuy]

Great conversation starter. Use it verbatim for all I care. Posted before, but posting it again.

Hi. Every girl on here is looking for 3 things to varying degrees.

1 - financial support.

2 - physical support.

3 - emotional support.

The greater the need for reason 1, the less attention is paid to reasons 2 and 3.

The greater the need for reason 2, the less attention is paid to reasons 1 and 3.

The greater the need for reason 3, the less attention is paid to reasons 1 and 2.

I try to provide a balance between all three reasons as a basis to meet someone. Enough money to say I am not trying to get something for nothing. Real Chemistry. I also have an understanding and giving nature combined with years of experience in taking care of girls and anticipating their needs.

I don't judge what anyone wants and I don't pretend to be able to meet everyones expectations. I use SD4 M as more of a regular dating site but to meet younger girls that want some help with their bills, have sexual needs and fantasies that can be spontaneously explored in a safe and nurturing environment, and with someone that could be a real friend even if its mostly for the financial and physical benefits. But a friend nonetheless.

Whats your motivation?

[Beachesnole02]

I couldn't agree more with your last sentence. However, it is ever so tempting when you know she's just playing you to call her out on her BS and run her through the mud. If I do this, I know the entire posse will be after me. I'm just going to tell her I know she's a working girl and if she contacts me, daddy, mommy, brother, sister, and the entire town in Virginia will know it. Although I honestly think her family already knows and did not give a shit. They are all weird and fucked up people.

They know and don't give a shit. Threatening drama will only create drama. Never let a crazy know you have a button to push, just guarantees they will try to push it. I deal with this type all the time on a professional basis, and just saying, be safer to leave a nominal donation, become a cheapskate, start calling her kid a moron and let her decide to move on.

Good luck. Mean that.

You might have a better shot convincing the judge "your honor it wasn't a romantic relationship. I was just fucking her, not romancing her" ;0.

[HollywoodGuy]

They are Gnipples. I would continue to make the 2 hour drive to play with those. Oops guess I let another one of my fetishes out of the bag.

They are the longest nipples I have personally encountered. And extremely sensitive.

[HollywoodGuy]

I'm legally separated, in the clutches of a messy divorce with many twists and turns. In the final agreement that we have both signed and was approved by the court, we are to be separated for one year and then the divorce becomes final. The settlement agreement includes me gaining complete control of a $425,000 home that is paid for. But with that clause and agreement is that during the 1 year separation period, I am not to engage in a romantic type relationship with another woman. This was set forth in that we might reconcile our differences, per her request in that year time span. I also agreed to marriage counseling. If after the end of said year, I still want to proceed, I get the house and she gets a condo in S Florida worth about half the value of the home I get. So I have $425,000 riding on her not finding out. THATS WHY just stopping all you listed is not an option. This girl will come looking and 10-1 she will find my soon to be EX wife before she finds me.

So I need a plan that causes her to go away and never even want to know who I am or was!

I don't get it. So you mean you agreed not to have sex for a year?

[DirtyDeeds38]

The safest approach is to make her want to dump you. A few years ago I had one that I got to leave me alone by repeatedly making negative comments about her kids. She finally called me an asshole and disappeared. Another more recently I stiffed her on a couple visits and told her my business had taken a serious downturn. When I asked her to spot me 10 bucks for lunch, she never called again. I am sure you know something that will push her buttons. You try to buy her off, or threaten her for trying to blackmail you all falls into the line of advice I give my kids. "It never pays to stir the pot on a crazy person".

I couldn't agree more with your last sentence. However, it is ever so tempting when you know she's just playing you to call her out on her BS and run her through the mud. If I do this, I know the entire posse will be after me. I'm just going to tell her I know she's a working girl and if she contacts me, daddy, mommy, brother, sister, and the entire town in Virginia will know it. Although I honestly think her family already knows and did not give a shit. They are all weird and fucked up people.

[Beachesnole02]

So I need a plan that causes her to go away and never even want to know who I am or was!

The safest approach is to make her want to dump you. A few years ago I had one that I got to leave me alone by repeatedly making negative comments about her kids. She finally called me an asshole and disappeared. Another more recently I stiffed her on a couple visits and told her my business had taken a serious downturn. When I asked her to spot me 10 bucks for lunch, she never called again. I am sure you know something that will push her buttons. You try to buy her off, or threaten her for trying to blackmail you all falls into the line of advice I give my kids. "It never pays to stir the pot on a crazy person".

[Beachesnole02]

I,ve seen her 5 times in 2 months due to major distance problems. Its like a 2 hour drive. Too bad as she is a 8/9/9/9. Very normal girl. Almost too normal for me. She is a little older (28) so not too quick to make a rash decision about who she hangs with. Not sure how you guys deal with that. All the txting in the world isn't the same as seeing someone. But I am staying the course if she does.

They are Gnipples. I would continue to make the 2 hour drive to play with those. Oops guess I let another one of my fetishes out of the bag.

[DirtyDeeds38]

Stop paying her, stop fucking her and stop txting her. What else is there?

I'm legally separated, in the clutches of a messy divorce with many twists and turns. In the final agreement that we have both signed and was approved by the court, we are to be separated for one year and then the divorce becomes final. The settlement agreement includes me gaining complete control of a $425,000 home that is paid for. But with that clause and agreement is that during the 1 year separation period, I am not to engage in a romantic type relationship with another woman. This was set forth in that we might reconcile our differences, per her request in that year time span. I also agreed to marriage counseling. If after the end of said year, I still want to proceed, I get the house and she gets a condo in S Florida worth about half the value of the home I get. So I have $425,000 riding on her not finding out. THATS WHY just stopping all you listed is not an option. This girl will come looking and 10-1 she will find my soon to be EX wife before she finds me.

So I need a plan that causes her to go away and never even want to know who I am or was!

[HollywoodGuy]

She is truly trash and I want her GONE!

Stop paying her, stop fucking her and stop txting her. What else is there?

[HollywoodGuy]

Nice nipples! Not sure what your question is Hollywood? Maybe she wants more of a relationship?

I guess my question is can you really have a successful long distance relationship.

[FredMoore]

I,ve seen her 5 times in 2 months due to major distance problems. Its like a 2 hour drive. Too bad as she is a 8/9/9/9. Very normal girl. Almost too normal for me. She is a little older (28) so not too quick to make a rash decision about who she hangs with. Not sure how you guys deal with that. All the txting in the world isn't the same as seeing someone. But I am staying the course if she does.

Nice nipples! Not sure what your question is Hollywood? Maybe she wants more of a relationship?

[BigTigger]

Very Simple Advice: Use your intelligence and savvy and work a plan to get her to dump you. Were it be through being undependable, flaky, mean, low sugar, etc. You need to change your actions to get her to drop you. I speak from experience. The best is for it to be her decision and not yours.

"Peeking In From My Asylum".

BigTigg.

I've been out of the bowl, trying to end the SB #1 thing that maybe some of you recall turned into a relationship, gone messy with serious risks involved. Well, I'm still within the mess, but I have made a date that I will lower the final dumping and stick to it. I had to go to great lengths and costs to arrange a time I will be able to send her away for what I hope will be the final time. But I know for certain, a fallout of sorts will ensue. To refresh, the girl is 22, one daughter, clingy, plays innocent, met her family, she is suspicious of me, tried to trap me with pregnancy, talks about marriage, lied about birth control and last time I broke up with her, she threatened to "expose" me.

This girl can be very hard headed and controlling and such. I don't know whether presenting her with an approach that describes mutual destruction should she try to "ruin my life" or try the ole, "you are just not right for me", with serious explanations why, is best? I think the later will leave her open for trying to find me and fix things. I'm thinking of also telling her, I've met someone else, but she might get revengeful, as I will need to keep her hoping up until hours before I dump her sorry ass.

This girl has been a sugar baby before with a number of past Sugar daddies. I have not absolute proof, other then she was on the sugar site for months and online all day until a month after we met and after she agreed we were a "real thing" (she lied) When she agreed to go exclusive and date me, I spent $160 and signed up for two other accounts and emailed her under other names, and she agreed to meet and made prices etc for sex and a trip to the FC, When I confronted her about it, she denied that she would have ever really met those men and was just playing along. Yeah right! She also claims I'm the only man she met on those sites. Yeah right! She smokes weed, stays out all night and parties a lot, does not see her child very much, etc, etc, etc. I'm thinking to tell her, I am going to report her if she threatens me. Simply put, the girl is trash and if I call her out on it, she might come after me and my work, etc. Although, I've done nothing wrong to her, she is a young woman and we all know how that goes.

My question is, I have five days to go from the initial dumping, to being 100% sure this girl is done and not coming to look for me. I know after the initial dumping she will beg and plea, etc. This MUST be wrapped up and her moved along with no chance for contact after five days. Any ideas on how best to approach this?

Brothers, my story is much more involved then this. Moral of the story here, is a reminder to keep your SB dating clean and all business and when you stumble across a clingy one, dump her fast and swiftly or you risk ruining you life. I am in the middle of a huge mess and an tired of juggling it and I have only myself to blame. My goal is to slip out of this unscathed and return to the hobby in the way I should have all along. In the meantime, I hope to save my private life, financial stability and all that I know, cause they are all on the table right now. Any ideas, from anyone who has been through this is welcomed! I've truly been good to this girl and never treated her badly, but I fear the gloves might need to come off. Not in an illegal manor, but just one that scares he heck out of this fake cum bucket. She is truly trash and I want her GONE!

[DirtyDeeds38]

I've been out of the bowl, trying to end the SB #1 thing that maybe some of you recall turned into a relationship, gone messy with serious risks involved. Well, I'm still within the mess, but I have made a date that I will lower the final dumping and stick to it. I had to go to great lengths and costs to arrange a time I will be able to send her away for what I hope will be the final time. But I know for certain, a fallout of sorts will ensue. To refresh, the girl is 22, one daughter, clingy, plays innocent, met her family, she is suspicious of me, tried to trap me with pregnancy, talks about marriage, lied about birth control and last time I broke up with her, she threatened to "expose" me.

This girl can be very hard headed and controlling and such. I don't know whether presenting her with an approach that describes mutual destruction should she try to "ruin my life" or try the ole, "you are just not right for me", with serious explanations why, is best? I think the later will leave her open for trying to find me and fix things. I'm thinking of also telling her, I've met someone else, but she might get revengeful, as I will need to keep her hoping up until hours before I dump her sorry ass.

This girl has been a sugar baby before with a number of past Sugar daddies. I have not absolute proof, other then she was on the sugar site for months and online all day until a month after we met and after she agreed we were a "real thing" (she lied) When she agreed to go exclusive and date me, I spent $160 and signed up for two other accounts and emailed her under other names, and she agreed to meet and made prices etc for sex and a trip to the FC, When I confronted her about it, she denied that she would have ever really met those men and was just playing along. Yeah right! She also claims I'm the only man she met on those sites. Yeah right! She smokes weed, stays out all night and parties a lot, does not see her child very much, etc, etc, etc. I'm thinking to tell her, I am going to report her if she threatens me. Simply put, the girl is trash and if I call her out on it, she might come after me and my work, etc. Although, I've done nothing wrong to her, she is a young woman and we all know how that goes.

My question is, I have five days to go from the initial dumping, to being 100% sure this girl is done and not coming to look for me. I know after the initial dumping she will beg and plea, etc. This MUST be wrapped up and her moved along with no chance for contact after five days. Any ideas on how best to approach this?

Brothers, my story is much more involved then this. Moral of the story here, is a reminder to keep your SB dating clean and all business and when you stumble across a clingy one, dump her fast and swiftly or you risk ruining you life. I am in the middle of a huge mess and an tired of juggling it and I have only myself to blame. My goal is to slip out of this unscathed and return to the hobby in the way I should have all along. In the meantime, I hope to save my private life, financial stability and all that I know, cause they are all on the table right now. Any ideas, from anyone who has been through this is welcomed! I've truly been good to this girl and never treated her badly, but I fear the gloves might need to come off. Not in an illegal manor, but just one that scares he heck out of this fake cum bucket. She is truly trash and I want her GONE!