"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[FredMoore]

A lot of Pots I am interviewing lately are one bill away from nando 1 territory. Many are willing to talk $ for FC but talk minutes in the sack and do not have a car or an apartment to play in. They are not pros because if so they would have an incall available. They also want coverage which makes sense but I do not want. Like Hollywood I have to be careful coming on too strong up front because they will run. Once I know them they are usually comfortable with bareback.

Three of my Pots are of this ilk as we speak. I am facing going to pick them up, bring them to my FC, and take them home. This is a lot of exposure driving around town with lots of prying eyes about. They are ready to play but I am not sure the risk is worth the reward. And it is all for 15 minutes Pop and Run.

Some really cute college SBs have expressed interest but I can't date them and show them a good time before going to the FC. I need Nando 1. 5's.

[John G Smith]

Most likely a utr. But at least you cut to the chase.

I don't know man. Similar to ScottF one of the former brothers here, I sometimes enjoy the chase. It can often be maddening and frustrating, but sometimes there's a nice payoff and you can land a very fresh girl or a girl who ordinarily you might not expect to be accepting of this lifestyle.

Being more direct definitely results in a higher success rate of banging girls overall. But if you're after fresh non-Pro, non-UTR, or non-SerialSBs, then sometimes you have to endure the chase. But I also use the chase to sharpen my sword and I think it's partially why I've been able to find and do well with SBs who've had < 2 SDs. The fresher they are the more you can define for them what a SD / SB arrangement is suppose to look like. Unless I'm explicitly targeting a BC girl, I try to avoid talking direct dollars and cents until after I've banged her in the FC and I'm handing her a gift envelope. I may give her a rough approximation early on by mentioning what bills I might help with and such, but I keep the ball in my court until I've scored. This will not work with UTR girls or seasoned SBs. Only fresh SBs. And what's great is that costs remain modest and flexible. I try to do a mix of cash and gifts, so there's never exact number to pin things to. The girls feel less like an escort so there's a longer retention rate.

While yes I am primarily looking for a SB to have great sex with a hot young babe, for me I also need my ego stroked a bit. So I like her to give me some attention whether it's sending me texts, pics, or whatever. For me, it adds to the overall experience. I found that when I was more direct, I had a higher FC percentage, but the turnover was higher with each girl. Repeats were few and the girls rarely communicated with me except to arrange a date or ask for money.

It all depends what we're looking for. But I just wanted to add the chase isn't such a bad thing if you're looking for a fresh SB and someone you can mold.

[HollywoodGuy]

I totally don't mind menstrual pooling. My answer to that would be, "GREAT! I love fucking a bloody pussy! POP! ".

Hollywood, I forget. Are you a cover guy or bareback only?

I have a M&G Asian spinner soon who insists on condoms. I don't like covered but might have to try 1st visit before I press things -or do the slit trick.

BB only. Which does limit my possibilities. If a girl says condoms only no exceptions, I respect that and move on. Thats why I never pressure girls for sex on a first date. But get it half the time anyway. Or maybe more. And another reason I am in the sugar world and not the pro world.

[FredMoore]

This slender 19 year old pulled a good trick on me. When we got to the FC she said she was on her period. Even had the string dangling to make it look real. Got a nice BBBJ anyway. Not repeating.

I totally don't mind menstrual pooling. My answer to that would be, "GREAT! I love fucking a bloody pussy! POP! ".

Hollywood, I forget. Are you a cover guy or bareback only?

I have a M&G Asian spinner soon who insists on condoms. I don't like covered but might have to try 1st visit before I press things -or do the slit trick.

[Rouleur]

Just after I let my SA premium membership lapse and I was going to take break from SA for the summer, I finally got a reply from a girl I had messaged just a couple days before my membership ran out. I'd spaced out on just giving her my contact info in my initial message to her and I really wanted to talk to her. She's 19,5'7" blonde / blue, nice body. So I bit the bullet, paid the membership fee again and replied to her message. Was difficult coordinating things with her off of SA because she had no phone to text with (only an email addy), but we arranged to have a M&G the next day. It went great, she's very much a free spirit, easy to talk to, eager to please. My only gripe is that she has no interest in a monogamous arrangement, but at least she's honest about it with me. M&G went great so we negotiated an overnight that night for a new phone for her (a bit over $ - and it was just as much a benefit for me as it was for her, to make it easier to stay in contact with her) and also a few more $ for financial gift.

As soon as we got to the hotel, she became the most affectionate, sexual SB I've ever had. She was eager to please, expressed that she is very open to experimenting with things she'd never done, she's bi (I think most every SB I've had is bi) and said she'd look for another girl to join us, etc. We fucked and I came so many times I was losing count by the morning. I was fucking her like I was 20 years old again. She is absolutely amazing. We should be seeing each other again, assuming she doesn't flake out like the past few girls I've met and really liked.

So nice to read a dream that goes so well FotoGuy. I've had my best luck using SA and plan to extend my membership as well. My attempts to place a note on the LV CL has met with a hefty response from CG's and UTR's but no real SB's. On a positive note, my CL notes have not been flagged, so far.

[FotoGuy1970]

Just after I let my SA premium membership lapse and I was going to take break from SA for the summer, I finally got a reply from a girl I had messaged just a couple days before my membership ran out. I'd spaced out on just giving her my contact info in my initial message to her and I really wanted to talk to her. She's 19,5'7" blonde / blue, nice body. So I bit the bullet, paid the membership fee again and replied to her message. Was difficult coordinating things with her off of SA because she had no phone to text with (only an email addy), but we arranged to have a M&G the next day. It went great, she's very much a free spirit, easy to talk to, eager to please. My only gripe is that she has no interest in a monogamous arrangement, but at least she's honest about it with me. M&G went great so we negotiated an overnight that night for a new phone for her (a bit over $ - and it was just as much a benefit for me as it was for her, to make it easier to stay in contact with her) and also a few more $ for financial gift.

As soon as we got to the hotel, she became the most affectionate, sexual SB I've ever had. She was eager to please, expressed that she is very open to experimenting with things she'd never done, she's bi (I think most every SB I've had is bi) and said she'd look for another girl to join us, etc. We fucked and I came so many times I was losing count by the morning. I was fucking her like I was 20 years old again. She is absolutely amazing. We should be seeing each other again, assuming she doesn't flake out like the past few girls I've met and really liked.

[HollywoodGuy]

Totally not my thing (though I've done it more than I care to think about). In that situation I might have grabbed a towel, a condom, and told her it would enhance her sensation, then pulled the string!

Falls into the same category as I,m actually a lesbian, I have a boyfriend, etc. Just a way to make some easy money without giving up any pussy. It only seems to happen with 18 and 19 year old utr girls. So they get one date out of me. Whats funny is that they always txt me to see if I want to do it again. It's happens to me maybe once a year.

[Dsprdo]

This slender 19 year old pulled a good trick on me. When we got to the FC she said she was on her period. Even had the string dangling to make it look real. Got a nice BBBJ anyway. Not repeating.

Totally not my thing (though I've done it more than I care to think about). In that situation I might have grabbed a towel, a condom, and told her it would enhance her sensation, then pulled the string!

[HollywoodGuy]

This slender 19 year old pulled a good trick on me. When we got to the FC she said she was on her period. Even had the string dangling to make it look real. Got a nice BBBJ anyway. Not repeating.

[Dolato]

So my question is, if this 3 some does indeed happen, how should I approach the new girl into setting up something regular? I don't want to get the original SB pissed but I know at some point after a few more encounters I will want to move on anyway. On the plus side for me, I have already hinted that my resources are not unlimited (trying to plant the idea that if we stop seeing each other, it's because I am tapped out and not bored) and the original SB has transportation issues so she is often dependent on friends shuttling her closer to me. Also, come Summertime, I will have far less alone time to meet. These are my excuses to pull away from original SB in a nice, seemingly natural, and not-my-fault sort of way.

But if this new is hot and fun, what's the best approach in trying to flip to my main regular? I am assuming if she is willing to fuck a stranger in 3 some situation, she would be open to a SB arrangement. Or do I run the risk of making her feel she is screwing over her friend and then get them both pissed at me?

Well, it seems like you're already set on moving on from the current SB sometime soon. So if you do piss of the both of them, then it wouldn't be any bigger loss so I don't see a harm in trying to flip the new POT into your SB. It may be best to try to talk to the new POT privately when you get the chance in person. Be open and talk to her about possibly seeing her regularly and if she'd be open to an arrangement.

If I was in your situation, here's what I'd do: I'd take the bullet (expense and time) in seeing both together initially, then separately for a couple weeks. Then ask the new one if she'd be willing to continue seeing you even if you were to stop seeing her friend. I'd think that once she's established something with you, it'd be easier for her to continue with you. It'll be up to her to consider the friendship issue. Again, I think the pros far outweigh the cons with this.

Best of luck and keep us posted.

[HollywoodGuy]

In response to my intro letter.

"Wow! You are definitely a man who knows exactly what you want! I like that! I would enjoy playing. I'll take care of you baby...".

Most likely a utr. But at least you cut to the chase.

[FotoGuy1970]

I am trying to get into the game but I need some tips. How do you make a CL ad that don't get flagged straight off the bat? Or even at all? Certainly I want to post looking for a SB but just can't get to get it past the CL filters advice will be appreciated. Thanks! I also created a SDT page but I have heard of some success stories on CL as well so I am willing to give it a try.

CL has really started cracking down on the sugar ads, it seems to be especially bad in particular areas (like mine). You *might* be able to get vague and ambiguous ads through, but my experience has been that those ads do not get the responses that make the effort worthwhile. YMMV.

[Dandy Don]

Okay, I am relatively new to the whole SB thing, had a profile on SA for a month, met a few girls and currently sticking with one, a 20 year old who is a little thicker than I like but very sexual. I have met here now 3 times (M&G plus two encounters). Pleased with sex so far. In chatting, I mentioned I never had 3 some. She volunteered to find someone and allegedly has someone lined up for next week. I am still a little doubtful she will come thru but she did send me a pic of her friend who is equally young and much more physically to my liking. I quickly matched her friend to a profile on FB, so for her friends sake, I hope she is being truthful about the potential because otherwise, that is pretty crappy to send her pic to a stranger.

So my question is, if this 3 some does indeed happen, how should I approach the new girl into setting up something regular? I don't want to get the original SB pissed but I know at some point after a few more encounters I will want to move on anyway. On the plus side for me, I have already hinted that my resources are not unlimited (trying to plant the idea that if we stop seeing each other, it's because I am tapped out and not bored) and the original SB has transportation issues so she is often dependent on friends shuttling her closer to me. Also, come Summertime, I will have far less alone time to meet. These are my excuses to pull away from original SB in a nice, seemingly natural, and not-my-fault sort of way.

But if this new is hot and fun, what's the best approach in trying to flip to my main regular? I am assuming if she is willing to fuck a stranger in 3 some situation, she would be open to a SB arrangement. Or do I run the risk of making her feel she is screwing over her friend and then get them both pissed at me?

[Beachesnole02]

Thought I would share my M&G that went right to FC yesterday. 23, college student living with her boyfriend, way cuter than I was expecting her face was blocked in her pictures. Summer term ran out of cash after paying for text books so I spotted her a benji . Said we did 3 positions she had never even thought of that were "fantastic" I agree, they were.

[FredMoore]

Potentials that is. I have 1 regular and 6 pots I'm working. My problem is I do not have enough time or money to work them correctly. My funds are being monitored so my play money is locked down.

FB #1 is a full blown Nando 1 now . She was always independent until recently when she got in trouble and went dark. She did resurface but is constantly calling for money. Rent due, car busted, you name it . She is into me for $$ so I don't want to give up on her but I might have to write it off. She is a great spinner FB -ideal for my purposes now, short and sweet. Appointment today but haven't heard back, so I need to jump on one of my newbies if I know she isn't coming. . If she flakes I guess I will give it up and move on. The caretaker in me wants to bail her out but it is not to be . I can not take on her endless problems . Sugaring is supposed to be about easy,uncomplicated NSA activity ,right ? Not drams and problems . We have enough of that in real life .

Pot #1.

26 yr old Blue / blonde spinner wrote off SA. SHe wanted a date since she is in a hotel and trying to fill slots and pay for the tel. She might be an UTR but says not. Can't meet her when she is available but is open to a meet nearby city. $$ plus room for her.

Pots # 2 _6.

5 pots are all 18 to 25 7-8/8-9/ They are all desperate for $ and asking a lot. I stuck with my number per Hollywood and all are willing to meet. Now I have to find the time. They are all working the SA site and I'm sure are filling holes (literally) while I am waiting. Such is life in the Bowl.