The Massholes

[Lmao123]

A2, I think this was opened with good intentions but in my opinion it really turned into members throwing insults at each other and really took many valuable members away from discussing pussy. This section is really counterproductive and amounts to nothing more then providing an opportunity for members to get pissed off at each other and divide us instead of uniting us over the same goal. Sometimes it reads like if bunch of kids were pointing at each other and screaming "No, you're stupid! "No, you're stupid! I'm sure that it's a source of some amusement for some (and sometimes for myself too) but for the health of the forum I believe it's a bad news.

I think in general if members don't like someone or want to call somebody out on something they should do it in regular pussy-oriented section but do it once or maybe twice but the minute it begins to feel like it's about to get out of hand, with somebody repeating the same shit over and over the moderator should step in and say: "Hey! You said your piece! Move on!" It doesn't happen all that often for the moderator to get overwhelmed with such situations. And if someone seem to think of himself as a self-appointed truth policeman and keeps continuously calling someone out this person should be warned and advised to knock this shit off or get a blog of his own where he can do whatever the fuck he wants!

If you believe that someone (like apparently is Ledger) is so much of an asshole that he needs to be bounced out of the forum, present your arguments to the moderator (A2) why you believe he should be bounced out of the forum. If A2 agrees with you, he'll bounce him out. But continuously going on and on about how much of an asshole he is only facilitates you not writing about your latest pussy experience! And I'm pretty sure that I will speak for the greater majority here when I say that that's what we want to here and not how much of an asshole Ledger or Monger Expert or whoever the fuck else is. We're all adults here. We know there are plenty of assholes on this forum. Pointing fingers and calling people out over and over again is bullshit! Instead of doing that you could've enlightened us with your latest pussy experience that most of us, I guarantee you, would rather read about.

I dealt in the open and via PMs with many on both sides of this crap and I found most of them to be valid and honorable mongers in their own right.

Again I believe that this section is very counterproductive to the health of this forum. It turns hobbyists against one another where otherwise they're wouldn't have been and takes people's minds away from reviewing pussy. Again I'm asking A2 respectfully to shut down The Massholes!

I know I'm going to catch a lot of slack for saying this, but I really think you're right. I think this site is starting to lose it's substance. I joined this site because I thought it was for us gents (emphasis on gents) to share information about some of the good and bad service providers that are out there. Ever since this Massholes thread stated it has been nothing but arguing and bickering amongst eachother. At the end of the day what good is that?

I've been checking this site periodically to see if there's any good info as far as the service providers go and low and behold the only thread that is active is the Massholes. Come on gents, I think we could do better. Let's get back to finding some good pussy.

[Nrlmus]

A2, I think this was opened with good intentions but in my opinion it really turned into members throwing insults at each other and really took many valuable members away from discussing pussy. This section is really counterproductive and amounts to nothing more then providing an opportunity for members to get pissed off at each other and divide us instead of uniting us over the same goal. Sometimes it reads like if bunch of kids were pointing at each other and screaming "No, you're stupid! "No, you're stupid! I'm sure that it's a source of some amusement for some (and sometimes for myself too) but for the health of the forum I believe it's a bad news.

I think in general if members don't like someone or want to call somebody out on something they should do it in regular pussy-oriented section but do it once or maybe twice but the minute it begins to feel like it's about to get out of hand, with somebody repeating the same shit over and over the moderator should step in and say: "Hey! You said your piece! Move on!" It doesn't happen all that often for the moderator to get overwhelmed with such situations. And if someone seem to think of himself as a self-appointed truth policeman and keeps continuously calling someone out this person should be warned and advised to knock this shit off or get a blog of his own where he can do whatever the fuck he wants!

If you believe that someone (like apparently is Ledger) is so much of an asshole that he needs to be bounced out of the forum, present your arguments to the moderator (A2) why you believe he should be bounced out of the forum. If A2 agrees with you, he'll bounce him out. But continuously going on and on about how much of an asshole he is only facilitates you not writing about your latest pussy experience! And I'm pretty sure that I will speak for the greater majority here when I say that that's what we want to here and not how much of an asshole Ledger or Monger Expert or whoever the fuck else is. We're all adults here. We know there are plenty of assholes on this forum. Pointing fingers and calling people out over and over again is bullshit! Instead of doing that you could've enlightened us with your latest pussy experience that most of us, I guarantee you, would rather read about.

I dealt in the open and via PMs with many on both sides of this crap and I found most of them to be valid and honorable mongers in their own right.

Again I believe that this section is very counterproductive to the health of this forum. It turns hobbyists against one another where otherwise they're wouldn't have been and takes people's minds away from reviewing pussy. Again I'm asking A2 respectfully to shut down The Massholes!

[Deb4512]

He seriously has no conflict management skills. Not saying that I do LOL. Because I'm a hothead too! But to threaten to report everyone, can't remember who that would be, is idiotic! It makes him look like a moron and either he will eventually have to change his user name or will fall off the board altogether, because everyone will likely continue bashing him or ignore him altogether. I think it's best to just ignore him and also his negative reviews. Funny that his reviews are mostly negative but then he overtips. Does that mean he overtips the bad providers or everyone? Has he ever had a good experience with a provider, just one positive review??

I was meaning to address the issue of clients dating escorts. I don't see anything wrong with it at all. Actually I think it could be a perfect match if both people are mature enough to handle an open relationship. I know at least one escort who does and they are swingers. Her boyfriend accompanies her when she's on the road for protection and even has joined in on the sessions. I know another escort who's husband is free to see other escorts, although he was never a client of hers.

I had a client who was staying with his wife in a hotel in Boston when I was escorting there. It was during that snow storm two years ago when all transportation was shut down. Funny that I was busy then, the guys actually walked to me in that shitty weather! LOL. Anyway he told his wife he was going out to buy her a special take out meal each time he saw me, which was twice. After our session he would order her meal from my hotel's restaurant. She was probably thinking that her husband was very thoughtful! Anyway my point is that I do not want to be in that woman's position!

I'd date a client, (I did once and it didn't work out for reasons not related to my escorting) and give him the green light to see as many escorts as he wants. I'd be willing to help him choose one only if he asks me for my advice.(I don't want to interfere in his choices, because I don't want to be co-dependant) and I wouldn't be cool with it just because I feel like I have to to keep him. I honestly wouldn't mind at all! Even if he cheated on me with a non pro or fell in love with someone, if he were honest about it although I wouldn't be particularly happy about it, I don't want to be with someone who doesn't want to be with me. Everyone's free to choose their paths in life and I don't want to be responsible for holding anyone back.

And for those who say it can't work, because there are too many hurdles for such an unconventional relationship, let me remind you. The divorce rate is allegedly 50%! I'm assuming most of these marriages are traditional, conventional ones. And many who stay together do it for their children, or convenience.. If conventional / traditional relationships worked out so well escorts wouldn't be as busy as they are!

As far as the admin is concerned when he said he'd be into going to the movies with a provider if she were interested, I say I'd be game just as long as there were a lot of handing holding and pda! And definitely be up for it if there were occasional DFK's I'm not saying this to be a kiss ass, but I think he's cool and has the right attitude, no nonsense and upfront. He doesn't allow anyone to take advantage of him! I think this should always be the case, standing one's ground. Especially with escorts standing your ground is a must! Otherwise you'll be one of those dudes who thinks he's dating an escort, but in reality is her sugar daddy and she's just using him. Escorts are notorious for taking advantage of people. Look at all the bad provider experiences I've read about here and on other forums. I'm an anomaly in this business, because I have no desire whatsoever to take advantage of anyone. I only want what's due me.

Anyway, I'm having a fab time. I wasn't impressed with Myrtle Beach. Too many rowdy kids drinking and acting like asses. As far as Virginia Beach is concerned I stayed in town and didn't even see the beach St Augustine is the best so far! The condo is right on the beach! It's really nice, new and modern. It has two bedrooms, flat screens are a must, I'm sleeping in the master bedroom with it's own bathroom and flat screen tv. There is also a deck on the third floor with tables and chairs where anyone can sit up there and have a full access view of the beach and the ocean. I'm staying here for 10 days visiting an ex stripper friend of mine.

Getting back to the admin. If you are ever in Boston we can hang out and I'll buy you are beer (that is if you like beer!

Ciao.

[Yello Tail]

Deb,

Check out Diva Spa and Unique8 on Yelp (Tips, and Reviews from Phil R). Phil / Ledger has gone pussy-simple with a dose of arrogance, and a dose of misplaced moral crusading Televangelist Jim Bakker. After reading his reviews of Michelle at Diva and Unique 8 on Yelp tell us what you think.

BD.

I reviewed his yelp reviews. All of them. What a piece of work! I can't understand the purpose of his reviews as they are more like personal attacks. If you go some place and get bad service. Then say I was disappointed with the service. And in the case of the diva & unique reviews, he was a multiple repeat customer, paying for extras, encouraging the staff to perform certain services, and then judging them for accommodating him. This is one sick individual.

[Smoke Screen]

As A2 noted this thread was created to ensure the integrity of the others to stay focused on talking about pussy.

No surprise here that in my opinion the forums began to go downhill when a large number of members decided to go underground with reviews and intel posted. I find it ironic that you feel every post should have substance yet the majority of your posting in the main threads comes in the form of "pm me for details". I don't feel there is much substance in those types of posts at all. Of course this debate has been hashed out ad nauseam here. Apparently a "substantive post" is entirely subjective here. Nothing has really changed for the proponents of the non-detail side of the debate here as the PM system and underground network remains intact.

I don't think the primary motive for most members additional commentary is to increase post count. If I was concerned about increasing my post count I would have a hell of a lot more posts than I do now after having been a member here for almost 5 years now.

At least the name calling is now segregated in this separate thread which no one has to read if they don't want to although admittedly I believe that would be difficult due to the curiosity factor.

I don't think it's fair to say "the majority of my posts come in the form of "pm me for details". I'll generally write where I went, who I saw, her height & weight, age, TS or not, was the place clean, provider good, and will or will not repeat. Then I add pm for details. I just don't think it's necessary to say to the world I got a blow job, then we fucked 5 different positions, she was as loose as anyone I've been with. I find that disrespectful, even though some on here, and I don't mean you, consider these girls working girls of one type or another. That's just my reasoning.

[Smoke Screen]

I'm not trying to be a dick but isn't that kind of the reason for having this thread? Our thinking is that it serves for engagement here and makes the review threads more, well, reviewy. I do think that we need to do something about subtracting posts in threads like this from a guys totals though. I'm going to talk to the Russians about that. Seriously, not trying to be a dick.



A2.

Yeah, I guess that's the reason for the thread, but it seems to be taking away from the other threads, more of this, less of that.

[Yardape08]

I can understand how you feel about this, I too think the site has gone down some, probably due to Massholes. When Massholes 1st started I thought, well ok, this could be kind of fun, but instead it has become a place to make enemies. Since I joined USASG way back I have only had one member that I detest, now since Massholes, there are many more, and I'm an easy going guy. The constant back & forth name calling serves two purposes only and that is to increase post count and make enemies, totally useless post counts. There should be some substance to every post. Massage & escort threads have gone down because of this site. Sorry, but that's MHO.

As A2 noted this thread was created to ensure the integrity of the others to stay focused on talking about pussy.

No surprise here that in my opinion the forums began to go downhill when a large number of members decided to go underground with reviews and intel posted. I find it ironic that you feel every post should have substance yet the majority of your posting in the main threads comes in the form of "pm me for details". I don't feel there is much substance in those types of posts at all. Of course this debate has been hashed out ad nauseam here. Apparently a "substantive post" is entirely subjective here. Nothing has really changed for the proponents of the non-detail side of the debate here as the PM system and underground network remains intact.

I don't think the primary motive for most members additional commentary is to increase post count. If I was concerned about increasing my post count I would have a hell of a lot more posts than I do now after having been a member here for almost 5 years now.

At least the name calling is now segregated in this separate thread which no one has to read if they don't want to although admittedly I believe that would be difficult due to the curiosity factor.

[Admin2]

I can understand how you feel about this, I too think the site has gone down some, probably due to Massholes. When Massholes 1st started I thought, well ok, this could be kind of fun, but instead it has become a place to make enemies. Since I joined USASG way back I have only had one member that I detest, now since Massholes, there are many more, and I'm an easy going guy. The constant back & forth name calling serves two purposes only and that is to increase post count and make enemies, totally useless post counts. There should be some substance to every post. Massage & escort threads have gone down because of this site. Sorry, but that's MHO.

I'm not trying to be a dick but isn't that kind of the reason for having this thread? Our thinking is that it serves for engagement here and makes the review threads more, well, reviewy. I do think that we need to do something about subtracting posts in threads like this from a guys totals though. I'm going to talk to the Russians about that. Seriously, not trying to be a dick.

Admin, please delete my membership effective immediately. I have confirmed what I have felt for quite a while, and that is that the usasexguide site and forum have become so generic and mundane that it is no longer a desirable site to visit. Thanks, Fuhgetaboudit.

(Although I realize that the FAQ states to use the Contact Us method for this type of request, due to the cross reference to an email assigned to my account that I do not recognize and part of the FAQ stating that certain types of emails are ignored by the admin, I am not confident that the same request as above that was sent via that method would actually be received).

Jax said no, don't log in anymore and the effect is the same.

A2.

[Smoke Screen]

Admin, please delete my membership effective immediately. I have confirmed what I have felt for quite a while, and that is that the usasexguide site and forum have become so generic and mundane that it is no longer a desirable site to visit. Thanks, Fuhgetaboudit.

(Although I realize that the FAQ states to use the Contact Us method for this type of request, due to the cross reference to an email assigned to my account that I do not recognize and part of the FAQ stating that certain types of emails are ignored by the admin, I am not confident that the same request as above that was sent via that method would actually be received).

I can understand how you feel about this, I too think the site has gone down some, probably due to Massholes. When Massholes 1st started I thought, well ok, this could be kind of fun, but instead it has become a place to make enemies. Since I joined USASG way back I have only had one member that I detest, now since Massholes, there are many more, and I'm an easy going guy. The constant back & forth name calling serves two purposes only and that is to increase post count and make enemies, totally useless post counts. There should be some substance to every post. Massage & escort threads have gone down because of this site. Sorry, but that's MHO.

[Fuhgetaboudit]

Admin, please delete my membership effective immediately. I have confirmed what I have felt for quite a while, and that is that the usasexguide site and forum have become so generic and mundane that it is no longer a desirable site to visit. Thanks, Fuhgetaboudit.

(Although I realize that the FAQ states to use the Contact Us method for this type of request, due to the cross reference to an email assigned to my account that I do not recognize and part of the FAQ stating that certain types of emails are ignored by the admin, I am not confident that the same request as above that was sent via that method would actually be received).

[BigDog001]

Do you think any of us will believe your report? Why don't you and Mike Williams go together and co-review this place, that may ad some credibility, NOT!

For some strange reason, possibly even unbeknown to himself, he reviews advertisements. The latest ad he reviewed is about the Crystal Foot Spa that moved from Hancock. Some people get off on sex, others get off on ads about it. ME, don't you get it? The forum is for reviewing the meal, not the menu. You could start a new site, and maybe A2 could help you, called USAAG. You got it: USA Ad Guide. Then, of course, no one would see your drivel.

BigDog.

[Yellowfever023]

Across from S and S headquarters, there is a new " spa ", which mentions the use of hot stones several times. Normally when hot stones are mentioned that typically translates into legit. But if you look at the ad there is an NY # as a contact as well as a 617. On the other hand they do advertise on craigslist, and sometimes the papasan is a good indication for fun times. It's a high traffic area so not too sure about this one. I'll have to check and see if there is a doorbell, hahaha.

http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/thp/4438139070.html

Do you think any of us will believe your report? Why don't you and Mike Williams go together and co-review this place, that may ad some credibility, NOT!

[BigDog001]

I spent time with my family and am now in Virginia Beach (for lovers BTW LOL) I'm just curious about the two guys who have been getting picked on here. Sperm Sac is a good guy, he really is. Are you guys upset with him, because he doesn't post reviews? He said he pms them instead, because he doesn't want to be explicit on here, because he doesn't want to incriminate the providers. He is entitled to do so if that's what he wants to do, just as everyone else can write more explicit reviews. As far as Ledger is concerned are you all upset because he over tips? Why be upset if that's what he wants to do, just as long as he doesn't try to force anyone else to do so. I've been tipped and don't feel like they were trying to kiss my ass, they just liked me and my services. I don't like how Ledger handles bullying though. Who does he think he's going to report you all to? Really? LOL.

I love the idea of the new site. The chat feature sounds fab! I hope it's for the men and for the woman too! Ok, I just want to clarify something. Will the basic USA be free and a charge for added features? Just wasn't sure. It's not a concern to me as I'd pay anyway, because I like it here. I hope everyone had a good Easter and enjoy stirring things up on Massholes! LOL. Today I'm headed to Myrtle Beach then off to St. Augustine Florida. An FYI for any escorts reading. I'm thinking the Virginia Beach area may be a good escorting location. The naval bases, largest so the concierge told me and plus Nassau is located here. Xoxoxo.

Deb,

Check out Diva Spa and Unique8 on Yelp (Tips, and Reviews from Phil R). Phil / Ledger has gone pussy-simple with a dose of arrogance, and a dose of misplaced moral crusading Televangelist Jim Bakker. After reading his reviews of Michelle at Diva and Unique 8 on Yelp tell us what you think.

BD.

[Smoke Screen]

I'm just curious about the two guys who have been getting picked on here. Sperm Sac is a good guy, he really is. Are you guys upset with him, because he doesn't post reviews? He said he pms them instead, because he doesn't want to be explicit on here, because he doesn't want to incriminate the providers. He is entitled to do so if that's what he wants to do, just as everyone else can write more explicit reviews. As far as Ledger is concerned are you all upset because he over tips?

Well, you're right about SpermSac, he is a good guy, but Ledger, no I don't care what anyone tips. We are (or at least I am) sick of his bullshit. He is a whiney little asshole. I'm willing to bet he has been picked on all his miserable life. In high school he was probably locked in his locker more than once. I have to admit, at first I felt a little sorry for him, people like him have no friends, here nor anyplace else. He gets what he deserves, abuse, the more the better.

Can't wait to hear what you have to say Ledger.

[Yellowfever023]

I spent time with my family and am now in Virginia Beach (for lovers BTW LOL) I'm just curious about the two guys who have been getting picked on here. Sperm Sac is a good guy, he really is. Are you guys upset with him, because he doesn't post reviews? He said he pms them instead, because he doesn't want to be explicit on here, because he doesn't want to incriminate the providers. He is entitled to do so if that's what he wants to do, just as everyone else can write more explicit reviews. As far as Ledger is concerned are you all upset because he over tips? Why be upset if that's what he wants to do, just as long as he doesn't try to force anyone else to do so. I've been tipped and don't feel like they were trying to kiss my ass, they just liked me and my services. I don't like how Ledger handles bullying though. Who does he think he's going to report you all to? Really? LOL.

I love the idea of the new site. The chat feature sounds fab! I hope it's for the men and for the woman too! Ok, I just want to clarify something. Will the basic USA be free and a charge for added features? Just wasn't sure. It's not a concern to me as I'd pay anyway, because I like it here. I hope everyone had a good Easter and enjoy stirring things up on Massholes! LOL. Today I'm headed to Myrtle Beach then off to St. Augustine Florida. An FYI for any escorts reading. I'm thinking the Virginia Beach area may be a good escorting location. The naval bases, largest so the concierge told me and plus Nassau is located here. Xoxoxo.

Hi Deb,

I hope your having fun on your vacation. I just want to remind you that this is a "Hard Hat Area" so you may want to be careful when putting in your 2 cents.

P.S. St. Augustine is a beautiful city, I lived there for a few years and my dad was a long time resident so I visited many times too. Make sure to hit the Trade Wind's lounge across from the bridge of Lions, Jimmy Buffet got his start there and you never know who will show up there to provide some musical entertainment.