Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[JLZ61]

I just noticed how many posts you have! Gawd almighty! You must be older than dirt! (grin) .

Just keep sending those pics!!

Well, for those who say that there is no such thing as bad publicity, she has done well on USASG. She has almost every swinging dick on the Cincinnati board talking about her. If she would come to Memphis and agree to my style of photographing, I would take a crack at her. At least we would then get a review of her, as well as some photos of her in action sucking my huge dick.

[Glockman]

Well, for those who say that there is no such thing as bad publicity, she has done well on USASG. She has almost every swinging dick on the Cincinnati board talking about her. If she would come to Memphis and agree to my style of photographing, I would take a crack at her. At least we would then get a review of her, as well as some photos of her in action sucking my huge dick. At her current rate, that would amount to about $250.00 an inch. Quite generous.

[TheDaytimer]

WOW. That's one long sentence Silk but I agree with you. Did you write it all in one breath? (LOL).

I agree with you and find very little difference between providers based on rate alone. Some of my more expensive dates have been blowouts and some of the less expensive have been like a nice GFE. I've done sever overnights for a very reasonable fare which is less than some ladies ask for an hour and found them to be sensual and satisfying.

I have a "friend" in Florida who has managed to raise her rates to $1000 minimum for a date. I saw her when she started at $150 and she still sees me at that rate. I'm sure my experience is no different than the $1000 dates. CORRECTION - I bet my dates with her are even better because we "clicked" earlier.

Any provider who can pull higher rates is to congratulated for their marketing expertise.

Ok so my point of view is just because its cheaper doesn't mean it taste any different I've heard horror stories of the so called high end being a mechanical and robotic date as to where gals like myself genuinely like what they do and give it their all because they arent pushing out 3 to 400 dollar dates at a time to each their own but why blow the bank and a load on one girl when you can see 3 to 4 girls who actually try and don't just expect high end amounts and upsell or overadvertise how special theey are and why their worth a said amount with that being said of all the girls charging high amounts tobi would be the only lady that I would spoil just based on our talks and how sweet she is she's never treated me less than what I am based on donations she's just a sweet and caring lady who happens to be hhhoooottttt as hell just my opinion take it for what's its worth big kisses yall.

[Colt0870]

I have a friend who had a recent dream about Lila. And in his humble opinion she isn't worth $5, maybe $2 But just his opinion and YMMV. Piece Out Men!

Look man we have been past what she is charging she can charge what she wants, we crossed that bridge weeks ago. We are now on her Dear John type post, I have enough income to buy a $5. Piece of ass if I want I just have a few other things I want to do with my extra cash. I also resent the fact you are saying we are whining. I am speaking only for myself but I do have a right to voice my opinion on any subject I want. And because I express my opinion doesn't mean it's whining. I tell you what why don't you call her shell out $5 and then let us know what it's like. If its good give the review but if its not remember real men don't whine. Be safe I'm out HL29.

[HuntLadys29]

Sometimes I think some guys are missing the point. Buying pussy is like buying anything else. With the exception that it's illegal unless you're married to it. You want some beef? You can go to a greasy spoon for a burger, or McDonalds, or Eat and Park, or move up to a fancier joint, all the way up to Mortons (here in Cleveland) where a steak will cost you 80 bucks. A la cart. You want a transportation? You can get a skateboard, or a bicycle, or a scooter, or a motorcycle, or a chevy, caddy, or a Lambo. You want pussy? You can get a girl off the street, a girl off BP, a girl from here or one of the other sites. You can look around many places and see, if you can afford to do it, if you can find a girl you want to wrap up for a while. A diamond in the rough, if you will. If you have the ready cash, sometimes you can find a girl with no baggage and keep her for a while. Rare, true, but much less expensive to find a little hottie who is used to charging a buck an hour and make an arrangement with her for a few months than a girl who asks 5 bucks an hour.

The point I'm trying to make is, if you can't afford a Lambo, or don't want to spend that much, you don't stand in front of the dealership waving your fist and bitching about how much the dealer wants for a Gallardo. If you want beef, but you don't want an $80 steak, you go to McDonalds, you don't stand in front of Morton's Steakhouse waving your fist and bitching about how much a steak is. So why post on the site bitching about how much a woman wants to charge for her intimate attention? Some, I'm sure, are worth it, to guys who can afford it. Some aren't. Sometimes an $80 steak is tough, sometimes a $4 burger is fantastic. Sometimes you can get a 10 grand car that lasts for 300000 miles, sometimes a 60 grand car is a lemon.

Except in B.A., where you can get what is an $80 steak in Ohio for $10. :-)

Real men don't whine.

Cheech.

Look man we have been past what she is charging she can charge what she wants, we crossed that bridge weeks ago. We are now on her Dear John type post, I have enough income to buy a $5. Piece of ass if I want I just have a few other things I want to do with my extra cash. I also resent the fact you are saying we are whining. I am speaking only for myself but I do have a right to voice my opinion on any subject I want. And because I express my opinion doesn't mean it's whining. I tell you what why don't you call her shell out $5 and then let us know what it's like. If its good give the review but if its not remember real men don't whine. Be safe I'm out HL29.

[SilkyWetness]

Ok so my point of view is just because its cheaper doesn't mean it taste any different I've heard horror stories of the so called high end being a mechanical and robotic date as to where gals like myself genuinely like what they do and give it their all because they arent pushing out 3 to 400 dollar dates at a time to each their own but why blow the bank and a load on one girl when you can see 3 to 4 girls who actually try and don't just expect high end amounts and upsell or overadvertise how special theey are and why their worth a said amount with that being said of all the girls charging high amounts tobi would be the only lady that I would spoil just based on our talks and how sweet she is she's never treated me less than what I am based on donations she's just a sweet and caring lady who happens to be hhhoooottttt as hell just my opinion take it for what's its worth big kisses yall.

[Cheech1]

Sometimes I think some guys are missing the point. Buying pussy is like buying anything else. With the exception that it's illegal unless you're married to it. You want some beef? You can go to a greasy spoon for a burger, or McDonalds, or Eat and Park, or move up to a fancier joint, all the way up to Mortons (here in Cleveland) where a steak will cost you 80 bucks. A la cart. You want a transportation? You can get a skateboard, or a bicycle, or a scooter, or a motorcycle, or a chevy, caddy, or a Lambo. You want pussy? You can get a girl off the street, a girl off BP, a girl from here or one of the other sites. You can look around many places and see, if you can afford to do it, if you can find a girl you want to wrap up for a while. A diamond in the rough, if you will. If you have the ready cash, sometimes you can find a girl with no baggage and keep her for a while. Rare, true, but much less expensive to find a little hottie who is used to charging a buck an hour and make an arrangement with her for a few months than a girl who asks 5 bucks an hour.

The point I'm trying to make is, if you can't afford a Lambo, or don't want to spend that much, you don't stand in front of the dealership waving your fist and bitching about how much the dealer wants for a Gallardo. If you want beef, but you don't want an $80 steak, you go to McDonalds, you don't stand in front of Morton's Steakhouse waving your fist and bitching about how much a steak is. So why post on the site bitching about how much a woman wants to charge for her intimate attention? Some, I'm sure, are worth it, to guys who can afford it. Some aren't. Sometimes an $80 steak is tough, sometimes a $4 burger is fantastic. Sometimes you can get a 10 grand car that lasts for 300000 miles, sometimes a 60 grand car is a lemon.

Except in B.A., where you can get what is an $80 steak in Ohio for $10. :-)

Real men don't whine.

Cheech.

[Admin2]

Maybe I'm like the little kid in the story about the Emperor and his new clothes but I just don't see it. I'm not saying she's ugly, she's certainly not ugly, she's got a decent photographer, she's got pretty eyes, and if you like them a little thick she's ok, but if she was in Newport (a bar full of working girls here) she wouldn't be one of the yeps, she would go strait to the nopes. She's just not that hot in a P4 P environment. I've been ruminating a little lately about why service and attitude is so much more important than appearance, but even taking that into account there still has to be a base level of hotness for entry into the upper ranks, doesn't there? Even after WALDT is considered.

I checked the photos again, yeah, no titties, baby fat, the drapes won't match the rug, getting a bit long in the tooth, and she never smiles. In her defense I found her etiquette section agreeable, she didn't go on and on about what she expects from you and her cancellation policy is more than reasonable. I know she's supposed to be GFE and all that, but Paraguayans on a bad day are more GFE than any woman I've ever met up there. When you combine all that with the "shut up and just listen to me" attitude here, A2 says paso.

For the price of a weekend with a 6 at best, you can spend 2-3 weeks here banging 9's. Hell one four hour date alone covers the airfair.

Before anybody goes nuts, I'm not saying she shouldn't get it if she can, her body, her business, but if she can... Oh my brothers, A2 mourns for his beloved adopted city.

[FatBoy1]

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[WarlockKy]

They're pretty much in the wrong place. That's just a fact of life.

Occasionally you'll find a high dollar hottie posting here, but usually only if her tour is running slow or she uses another name.

High dollar guys should be hunting on E R O S, date check or p 411.

[Bucks97]

There are going to be guys looking on this site who are looking for way upper end girls. You won't know that they are here, because they won't register, or if they do they will never post. These guys are in positions where they believe that if it became known that they are in the hobby their positions would be in jeopardy. And, they are most likely right. So, they lurk and look for high end providers who they are much less likely to have legal problems with. These guys can afford 300,400, 500 an hour for a girl. For a guy like me, if I get popped with a girl, I'll fight it, I'll get a jury trial if I have to, I don't care about publicity, I'm divorced, and I've already done time and I'm not afraid to do more if I have to. For a successful doctor, lawyer, maybe a high end executive, its a different story, those guys know that even a brush with the hobby could be fatal to their 20,30, 40 grand a month or more incomes. Yeah, they still buy punanni, but they are very very discrete.

And that's why girls may keep an ad in, they know the "big fish" they have isn't going to be there forever. They know those guys crave something new, just like we do, that's why they are in the hobby instead of just fucking their S.O.s. They want variety and the girls who do that kind of business know it, and keep their hand in looking for the next one.

Cheech

They're pretty much in the wrong place. That's just a fact of life.

[GolfGuy]

Where the fuck is the LIKE button on this site?

GOOD FOR YOU, Lila Bella! I think you should charge whatever you want for your goods and services -- your prices should reflect whatever the market will bear (or, in your case, bare).

And I understand your desire to hike your rates, that is, there is no question that you are very attractive and obviously NOT a streetwalker-turned-escort like some other providers who post here. Besides, at your present age, I think I also understand that you need to make all you can as quickly as you can since your clock is inevitably ticking softer and softer and will be winding down very soon. Put another way, at this stage in your life, gravity is working against you and I do NOT believe that prime-time will be on your side much longer, but that's just my opinion. So I say, get it while you can! GO, GIRL, GO!

What I do NOT understand, however, is why you post here in the first place? After all, you have been posting on the "arrangement" websites (see attached Pic) apparently hoping to hook a big fish and, according to your story, you have hooked two (amazing gents). So I'm just a little curious why you are messing around and wasting your time here, and on the other sites akin to this site, with what I'm guessing is probably a fairly large population of prospective clientele that will NOT meet your "picky" standards and / or who cannot or will NOT meet your high asking price, especially after you have admittedly already caught the big fish -- times two? Have you ever heard of the 80/20 Rule? Or how about a fundamental economic principle known as the Law of Diminishing Returns? In any case, I think YOU ARE SO LUCKY because most providers who advertise here could never command your high rates and, not only that, most of them will very likely never be able to land one amazing big fish, much less TWO AMAZING BIG FISH! YOU ARE JUST SO DARN LUCKY, IMHO! CONGRATULATIONS!

But there is something else I do NOT understand. It concerns your TWO AMAZING BIG FISH story and I am hoping to figure it out (just in case I ever become an amazing big fish myself). I do NOT get why TWO AMAZING BIG FISH (my words, not yours) who are "just a couple generous and wonderful gentlemen" (your words, not mine) are willing to be so "generous and wonderful" WITHOUT REQUIRING EXCLUSIVITY? How does that work exactly?

Now I just want to get this straight in my mind. So you found TWO AMAZING BIG FISH who are apparently, I'm guessing, willing to pay you more than your advertised rates for what I believe you called an "ongoing arrangement," but these TWO AMAZING BIG FISH do NOT want exclusivity (seriously), meaning you are still allowed to fuck us not-so-generous and not-so-wonderful guys in what I guess would then have to be called a "NON-ongoing arrangement?"

Well if that's the case, does it mean that I, or anyone else who might pass your "picky" test (which I presume is NOT about money, rather it's only about your "fussiness" in selecting your clientele), could book you 1-x to 15-x or whatever per week as long as we were willing to pay your advertised rates? My point about your story is that I am really struggling to see the advantages and benefits that the TWO AMAZING BIG FISH are going to receive in a "NON-EXCLUSIVE" ongoing arrangement with you. Unless you are charging the TWO AMAZING BIG FISH less than your advertised rates (for example, something akin to a baker's dozen), which I seriously doubt because what would be the point of locking yourself into an "ongoing arrangement" when you could just alternatively implement some kind of frequency marketing program for everyone, for example, a "Cum Fuck Me Lots" discount (Buy 5, Get 1 Free -- or whatever)?

After thinking about your story, or maybe I should refer to it as an announcement, and all of the various possible nuances of having a "NON-EXCLUSIVE Ongoing Arrangement" while at the same time continuing to fuck not-so-generous and not-so-wonderful clientele here on this board as well as around the country, my best guesses are: (1) YOU are FULL of CRAP and just made the whole thing up as a marketing strategy to hike your rates, that is, you are trying to create the appearance of a big demand and very limited supply; (2) YOU are DELUSIONAL and actually believe your own BS; (3) YOU are going through an IDENTITY CRISIS (are you an escort, a courtesan, etc., etc., etc.?) and should seek professional help; (4) YOU are still hoping to catch one big fish thus the reason you are still advertising everywhere; (5) Your TWO AMAZING BIG FISHes are FULL of CRAP, or just plain idiots, and will turn out to be NOT-SO-GENEROUS and NOT-SO-WONDERFUL in the end; and / or, (6) INSERT OTHER MONGER THEORIES HERE.

All of my statements, comments, and questions are, of course, rhetorical -- meaning am I neither seeking nor expecting any answers or explanations, Lila, since I am NOT, as you say, looking for an argument, or an ongoing back and forth, blah, blah, blah. I am merely thinking out loud, so to speak, about your pretentious advertisement / announcement.

[Colt0870]

She has an NR review where the guy gave her a great review with 4 stars and she called him out as a lier?? Is that the review? That is so classless. You take the guys money, he gives you a great review and you bash him over references and having an arrangement with another provider. WTF?

I am just providing intel here so don't tie any of this to my credibility. There is 1 review of Lila on another review site from an out of town reviewer who has 4 other reviews to his credit. His review of Lila is positive. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS. 3.0 for 1 hr.

[Member #4506]

I am just providing intel here so don't tie any of this to my credibility. There is 1 review of Lila on another review site from an out of town reviewer who has 4 other reviews to his credit. His review of Lila is positive. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS. 3.0 for 1 hr.

Glad it's positive. High end gals were not that great to me. They just thought they were. They rushed and cut things short as the appt goes on.

[Member #5083]

I told you guys weeks ago this chick is full of shit. If things are going so swell for you why did you post this? You should just continue doing what you're doing and keep your mouth shut. But you can't you want some kind of attention all the time you can't help yourself. You have all this going on and no reviews, I used to think you were just a conceited chick. But now I just feel sorry for you. My dear you need help, and I hope you get it. Is there a psychiatrist in the house?

I am just providing intel here so don't tie any of this to my credibility. There is 1 review of Lila on another review site from an out of town reviewer who has 4 other reviews to his credit. His review of Lila is positive. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS. 3.0 for 1 hr.