"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[HollywoodGuy]

If it doesn't taste and smell like cherry pie... Find one that does.

[GeorgeRichmond]

Friends.

Someone did PM me about VCU girl named Hannah. (165593) Be careful and stay away. She is back on SA site.

Had 2 SBs recently, but not that great of experience. So coming back to look for new ones.

[Revvo]

You commented on my term longtime POT and said it is an oxymoron. I cannot disagree more. It totally depends on the woman. And many on here have reported on pursuits that have take a long time. One just below. I think if you are talking about a pro or UTR then speed is important. In fact you can cut a deal with a pro pretty darn quick.

But a SB is a different animal altogether and true amateur can be even more skittish. Many amateurs and especially young amateurs can take a long time. In fact the biggest complaint I get from amateur POTs is the creepiness of the men on these sites. If they would just chill they would have more success. Is it worth it? I think it is.

I am not sure we can put such hard rules on such a fluid endeavor such as the sugar bowl.

As for me getting played? Maybe. But she never got a penny from me. Other than date expenses.

But hey that is the hazard of the game.

Revvo.

[Graham111]

After deciding to end it with SB13 I have been somewhat unmotivated. I decided to stick to CL and see where that went. Lot's of flakes and half starts but finally met a 20 HCB last night. A little chunkier than I like but very sweet and ended in the FC. She was new to the bowl and asked about a facebook page or some other way to verify. Told her I have my reasons for my privacy, so let's meet for a coffee down by your place and you can decide. That led to dinner and then the FC. Not the 2 hr session I normally prefer but a good time. Is she trainable...time will tell. Didn't ask for any of the personal info once we met...said she just wanted to make sure she was safe and "I am perfect"...LOL. I am only bad when you want me to be!

On another note the previous starfish. The airplane babe -texted and needed sugar. Had a quick sleepover. Decided to take charge and learned she has a very talented mouth as well as no problem with me in charge. So a nice diversion but still prefer an active participant. Will not repeat.

Lastly have a 21 YO HYB, really hot, I have been pursuing for 4 months! Rock hard body. Had a quick M&G on the way out of town but she has major drama. But just one good session...with her pierced nipples and tongue ring... I am getting too old for this stuff!

[HappyHunter44]

A pH balanced pussy wash like Vagisil might help. I see one lady that swears by it. Obviously, no replacement for medical care, if the situation warrants it.

This conversation got me thinking about some advice I gave a buddy once. Simply, he did not like the smell of his wife's pussy or its taste either. I made it clear that the relationship was all but over. I basically said that a if a wife does not like the taste of her husband's spunk, then no biggie, that can be worked around. But no way can a relationship survive a husband not liking his wife's pussy smell or taste. Just no way. It is important part of the deal for men.

I knew I was right, but it is interesting that it applies all the way down the line to SBs, girlfriends, casual booty etc. Still do not know why he married her knowing that, but marriage did not last. Yep, good pussy smells like good pussy. No explanation required. Like pornography, we know bad pussy when we encounter it. No explanation required there either. I admit that there is nothing like the smell and taste of nice, clean pussy.

[UKnowWho]

I have a 24 yr old UTR for $.5 / nutt. I'm a little underwhelmed with her although she is cute and a willing recipient of my body fluids. But, after we nutt she is out of there. I am phasing her out but would be willing to keep her on for less $ ,even though the PPO is decent. What do you think a good strategy could be to offer her less for the thrill of doing me?

I accidentally pulled this off with a girl once. Our agreement was $$ 1/2 but after a few visits, I wasn't very into her anymore. I gave her a bullshit story about a change in my finances to end things with her. She asked if I'd still see her if she asked for less money, but I told her I didn't think so. She then said "How about for $ temporarily until things improve for you?" I decided I couldn't turn it down for $, so I agreed.

But, after doing it one time for $, she would ask for "a little extra" every time. Sometimes I'd agree and do $.5, other times I'd stick to $. After a few rounds of that annoyance, I cut it off for good. She wasn't worth the hassle.

So, try just ending it with her on the basis of money and see if she makes a counter-offer. She may be more likely to stick to it if it was her idea. If she doesn't, and she agrees to end it, you can always make your offer then.

[Mlboriole]

QUOTE=FredMoore;2008316]"We've covered this before and there have been few cases involving sugar daddies and LEO. As always be careful talking to the Pots. Never mention sex and money in the same breath. $$ is for time together and expenses, and sex is referred to as "quiet time" ," private time" ,or what ever cute little phrase you choose to use. Do not say "how much for a BJ? ".

I was talking with a cute little blond from SA using exactly that kind of language and she must have gotten frustrated. Her response to my efforts to meet and greet was "Listen, I am not sure we are on the same page...you get a room, we meet, we have sex and you give me money. If that's not the plan then it should be..." I said sure ... 19 year olds...I usually pass on them but she was cute. She also just laid there, so cuteness did not get a repeat even though the price was right. I could tell enough about her by googling that I decided she was not LEO before I said sure.

I am like Revvo. It is not raining, it is pouring lately. To many to keep up with, and keep my job so I can afford them. A couple former models very high maintenance... A latin, I think she is trying to build calluses on Willie, and an assortment of single moms all fairly cute.

Appreciate the info. I met with this sb for coffee but still get uneasy feelings about her. She uses the phrase let's get naughty for her opening line and won't take anything but cash. She is a hottie, 22 and I have not tried a young sb as I have been having success with the 30 and 40 yo. For my area of central VA the older are more practical too. The young ones I find that are appealing to me are wanting 1 -2 K / mo.

[Beachesnole02]

QUOTE=FredMoore;2008316]"We've covered this before and there have been few cases involving sugar daddies and LEO. As always be careful talking to the Pots. Never mention sex and money in the same breath. $$ is for time together and expenses, and sex is referred to as "quiet time" ," private time" ,or what ever cute little phrase you choose to use. Do not say "how much for a BJ? ".

I was talking with a cute little blond from SA using exactly that kind of language and she must have gotten frustrated. Her response to my efforts to meet and greet was "Listen, I am not sure we are on the same page...you get a room, we meet, we have sex and you give me money. If that's not the plan then it should be..." I said sure ... 19 year olds...I usually pass on them but she was cute. She also just laid there, so cuteness did not get a repeat even though the price was right. I could tell enough about her by googling that I decided she was not LEO before I said sure.

I am like Revvo. It is not raining, it is pouring lately. To many to keep up with, and keep my job so I can afford them. A couple former models very high maintenance... A latin, I think she is trying to build calluses on Willie, and an assortment of single moms all fairly cute.

[FredMoore]

" longtime POT."

This is a bad sign. It is actually an oxymoron . A Pot should be on a fairly short leash to put up or get out . This one might be playing you Revvo .

" She was going to be my stable no dollar affair piece of ass. "

The Holy Grail of sugar life ! Some of you are successful at this . I have never had a SB willing to give it up for love .

" She is 19 still not a lot of excitement. "

Under 21 the girls are very immature and less ikely to relate in an emotionally appropriate way . IMHO 21 Plus is a world of difference .

" Beach blond divorcee: Really cool lady. She is 40 YO white slim and very attractive."

On the other hand ,MILFs,particularly over 35 seem to be more comfortable in their own skin sexually but are also a little desperate . They can be jaded and I tend to like a little naivete in the mix . If they are 40 + and need to sell themselves for money life is not going the way they hoped . It can be an opportunity for mongers though . Personally ,the thrill for me is cracking the nutt on a 20 something . All my MILFs have been enthusiastic lovers but just a little overweight, wrinkly ,and blah . YMMV



Revvo.

Strategy question for the Board. I have a 24 yr old UTR for $.5 / nutt. I'm a little underwhelmed with her although she is cute and a willing recipient of my body fluids. But, after we nutt she is out of there. I am phasing her out but would be willing to keep her on for less $ ,even though the PPO is decent. What do you think a good strategy could be to offer her less for the thrill of doing me? I already told her my business is struggling since I don't want her to take it personally. Obviously I can just throw a number out and see what happens.

[FredMoore]

You guys have been involved a lot longer than me but I took the advice and joined the SA site and it has paid off with some nice leads. My question is this. Is it possible that a young college student (supposedly) can be LEO? I have been talking to one that just scares me a little as it reminds me of a situation a experienced with an escort once. Thanks in advance.

We've covered this before and there have been few cases involving sugar daddies and LEO. As always be careful talking to the Pots. Never mention sex and money in the same breath. $$ is for time together and expenses, and sex is referred to as "quiet time" ," private time" ,or what ever cute little phrase you choose to use. Do not say "how much for a BJ? ".

Funny story. I set up a date with a 19 yr old and discussed private time but not money. She wouldn't talk about it when I asked what her expectations were. She did say she would not have sex on the first date. When I went to pick her up at her work it was an office right behind the police precinct. I almost ran but ended up meeting her, and it turned out to be one of the best one nighters of my Hobby career. She said she was on her period and I said "who cares?" and we went to the FC after a quick drink.

[Revvo]

Wow it has been a busy couple of weeks. Don't know what to say Hollywood but I have been there. The stress of trying to accommodate too much will fuck up a good hardon. So will being with the wrong woman or the wrong situation. Like someone once told me. The dick knows better than you sometimes. Anyway my last couple of weeks have been full of activity. After being out of the active hunt for a while I have renewed my membership on SDforme. OMG what a painful process. And I have many POTs to report on. I cannot tell you how much it is raining and pouring. My response rate on SDforme and Arrangement Finders has been through the roof. Don't know why. But it is keeping me real busy. So lets run the numbers shall we?

Lets start with a longtime POT. My Italian Paralegal. Big fucking bust. I put a lot of time in this one. She was going to be my stable no dollar affair piece of ass. Very patient very careful and everytime we get ready for the FC. She pulls the rug out from under me like Lucy and the football. And the whole time she is talking a very big game. In fact no woman in my entire life including my ATF's have ever spoken so admiringly, kindly, and sweetly to me. But proof is in the pudding. Now I can only try so many times. She has apologized, and promised she is ready now. I respond back politely but if she cannot prove to me that she is serious like I am. I am not going to set up another FC date. So she is way on the back burner for now. She is why I jumped back into the bowl.

My Tat Pinup baby has been very good when we can hookup. She is very sexy and does not beg for money. I give her gifts and small amounts of money. But I am not sure about her. She does not seem to be much of a go getter. She fucks like a champion when she is in the moment. But planning stuff is hard. She is on the edge with money. But I like her and she is moving into her own place soon and she will then have a nice little love nest we can meet at all of the time for fucking. This is cool since it will save me about 500 or 600 per month in hotel bills alone. But I do not feel this one is locked in. Great girl we have lots to talk about. She is very sexy. And she can suck a mean dick. I give her a 8/9/9/10. Set up to do an all nighter with her Thursday night but have not gotten a confirmation. So I am just going straight to her house at the alloted time. And she should be ready.

Pagent Latina Baby: Not very excited. But interested. I always look for that spark to make the interaction better. She does not have this she also has a boyfriend that of course does not know. She has a responsible job is independent and lives on her own. She is 19 and there is the potential to meet at her place always a big plus. She is very open and she is cocky. Very dark latina but very beautiful. I give her a 9/9/7/? . We had a good meet and greet and still not a lot of excitement. But she is still interested and ready to meet again. I will go with moving her to the FC on the next meeting. She was my priority for first of next week but then other things happened. So not rushing to get her just yet.

Blond Sexy MILF: So this one contacts me out of the blue and is very good to go. She has the spark. She is nice fun, polite, good communicator, sexy and ready to meet. She has had an SD before but does not seem too mercenary. We talked a lot and had a lot of fun. I was out of town but she was ready to meet. Now she lives a little far away in another town. And she cannot meet at her place. But she is very nice looking and is really really sexy. I am excited. So we are planning on meeting on Monday and we may have an instant trip to the FC. I give her a 8/8/10/? . And I am expecting good things in the last category. This one appears to be a quality woman. But we have been fooled before.

UTR Redhead: She contacted me and seemed very friendly. We got on very nicely and set up a time to meet. Short time frames from contact to FC was three days. Very simple and good to go. We meet at the Chilies she is a country girl not real expensive tastes. And she is trashy just too trashy. And she is heavier than she was in her descriptions and pics. But I soldiered on. She was funny and really into sex. We talked and she told me not to fuck her in the ass and she does not swallow but I can cum on her anywhere else. She ordered lots of top shelf drinks and talked loud and trashy. I was planning on just fucking her and not calling. So that is what I did. And I am glad she is just a UTR with not much else going. Quality was just not there cute face and good at sucking dick. I give her a 8/7/6/7. She is off the list.

Brazillian Beauty: Now this one I am really excited about. She is the reason I renewed my subscription on SDforme. She has that look that just kills me. And she sent me a kiss when I favorited her but I could not email her since I was expired. After I renewed I did and she responded promptly. She is really nice and young and sweet. I give her a 10/8/10/? . She is 22 mixed American and Brazillian and cool as can be. She is really into me also. Always makes for a better interaction. We have texted and talked she is a Nanny and does odd jobs. And is only looking for someone to show her around and help her out a little bit. Not mercenary at all. I am really liking this one also. Right now she is at the top of my list. We are set to meet on Friday get to know one another. She is very upset by the fucking perves and creepers on that website. Which just makes me look better. I am really excited. I think a slow roll with be just right. With the money situation and the looks she could be a real unicorn here. She is very cool I would take the time to train her if needed.

Beach blond divorcee: Really cool lady. She is 40 YO white slim and very attractive. I give her a 8/8/8/? . Thin long blond hair do not know much about the body. Nice and responsive and likes the way I look. She is between apartments and is at a friends house until she saves up for first last and deposit. She is very interested and is ready to meet. She has had a SD before but is cool and is not mercenary at all. She said she wants someone to pay for things when they are together and help her out a little when she needs it. Seems really honest but a little scattered like a lot of these babies. This could be a really nice deal once she gets her own place. If all I am paying for is dinners and a few gifts and an occasional help. That is great. So we are set to meet next week on Tuesday or Wednesday. Could be a nice consistent deal especially since my pinup tat baby is getting so flakey.

Long haired latina cutie: Very very cute. Long curly hair. A set of lips that make you want to cry. She is 37 YO latina, nice thin body small titties beautiful smile. Sent me some sexy underwear pics. So far so good. We are scheduled for lunch on Tuesday. Tried to get her on the phone but no luck yet. Not so sure about that. But she has had an SD before and seems kind of into me. Not feeling the real spark yet. But she knows the gig. Not sure if she will be too mercenary yet. Hard to rate her yet. Need to know more. But I will give her a preliminary 9/9/7/? . Lots more to learn about her. But she is very ready to meet. But I have heard that before also.

Blondie and beautiful: This one pops out of the woodwork today and is such a pleasant suprise. Wow she is beautiful. And she responds to my look at her and sends me the kiss. Now you know and I verified it from her that she got a ton of messages. So I cannot tell you how I got through. But I am going to pursue it. I was able to do the decent gentleman thing and get her hooked right away. She said the pervers were skeeving her out bad. LOL Man what is wrong with men in our society? We texted and talked on the phone good sign and she is ready to meet. Friday at noon. She wants drinks. I am sure she is nervous true amature. Another potential unicorn. But she does need money so she may not be that perfect. I give her a 10/8/8/? . She live in antoher city that I travel to and she does not have a car so there are some issues. She is white blond and 21. I am giddy with excitement.

There are more but they have been even less responsive so I am not going to get too worked up about them.

Lets be careful out there.

Revvo.

[Mlboriole]

You guys have been involved a lot longer than me but I took the advice and joined the SA site and it has paid off with some nice leads. My question is this. Is it possible that a young college student (supposedly) can be LEO? I have been talking to one that just scares me a little as it reminds me of a situation a experienced with an escort once. Thanks in advance.

[Golfcart]

It was bound to happen. I got overwhelmed and blew a fuse. I managed to let down three babies and two booty call girls all in one night.

When a woman isn't cooperating it's pointless, we can't push on a string. When it's too many women and too little time we can't stretch a dick.

[ICantGetNo]

It was bound to happen. I got overwhelmed and blew a fuse. I managed to let down three babies and two booty call girls all in one night.

After jockeying all day trying to decide who to see, I blew off the two booty call girls in favor of one of my regulars. This created a last second cancellation with my new 19 year old HCB who was waiting for me to pick her up. So instead I went to pick up my new date and the HCB calls and says she doesn't have enough money to get to school or eat lunch. So with my date in tow I drive by her house to drop off a twenty. She didn't look too happy.

We drive home and I am thinking, finally I can relax after a 12 hour work day and an hour of driving. My date takes a shower and gets in bed and we start to go at it. And then, nothing. I had a sudden migraine and no hard on. This did not make her happy.

I took care of her orally but it was not what she was hoping for. (but when they do this, it's supposed to be no big deal) So I get out of bed because I had an 11 pm business call. In the middle of the call my roommate txted and says she is stuck downtown and can I get her. Between txting her and talking biz at the same time and stressing over the HCB and my dates hurt feelings, I passed out in the middle of the call.

Next thing I know its 5:30 am. I look at my cell and my roommate txted me at 2 am saying that she was stranded.

My goal since the first of the year was to rack up as much pussy as possible. Time to back down a little.

This reads like a script for a new movie. Can't wait to hear about Valentine's Day. Keep the stories coming.

[HollywoodGuy]

It was bound to happen. I got overwhelmed and blew a fuse. I managed to let down three babies and two booty call girls all in one night.

After jockeying all day trying to decide who to see, I blew off the two booty call girls in favor of one of my regulars. This created a last second cancellation with my new 19 year old HCB who was waiting for me to pick her up. So instead I went to pick up my new date and the HCB calls and says she doesn't have enough money to get to school or eat lunch. So with my date in tow I drive by her house to drop off a twenty. She didn't look too happy.

We drive home and I am thinking, finally I can relax after a 12 hour work day and an hour of driving. My date takes a shower and gets in bed and we start to go at it. And then, nothing. I had a sudden migraine and no hard on. This did not make her happy.

I took care of her orally but it was not what she was hoping for. (but when they do this, it's supposed to be no big deal) So I get out of bed because I had an 11 pm business call. In the middle of the call my roommate txted and says she is stuck downtown and can I get her. Between txting her and talking biz at the same time and stressing over the HCB and my dates hurt feelings, I passed out in the middle of the call.

Next thing I know its 5:30 am. I look at my cell and my roommate txted me at 2 am saying that she was stranded.

My goal since the first of the year was to rack up as much pussy as possible. Time to back down a little.