"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[WoodSlinger]

Is this the right place for her to advertise? It will be permanently in the Clubhouse Journal now, unless Jackson removes it for us?

Scott

I imagine she just made a mistake. But holy hell talk about the wrong place! A mature woman, posting in a place where the men are talking about banging young 18. 25 year old hotties? Someone should just move it to the Escorts category or whatever.

[F Scott]

Play nice. Many people have varied tastes and she's just trying to make a living.

Is this the right place for her to advertise? It will be permanently in the Clubhouse Journal now, unless Jackson removes it for us?

Scott

[Marcus Weiner]

Thanks for the welcome and yes, there's much more discussion on this thread and doesn't seem to be as much drama as the Baltimore Non-Pro thread. I've had the pleasure of meeting another SB, and hopefully she will become part of the rotation. 29 year-old single mom about 5'5 with a body to die for. Very passionate and loves to fuck the Weinerman the way he likes it! She's not a WYP girl or SA, she contacted me on an old "Financial assistance" ad from BP that I didn't know was still up. My late 30's blonde was supposed to come up last night but flaked on me. She just texted me and said she has a terrible migraine. I may see my tall Latina dancer tonight if she's not working and I don't get confirmation from the married Brazilian MILF for tomorrow morning. Saturday night the Chinese / Russian girl is coming up to spend the night.

MW welcome brother, it's good to see you her on this board. This board is a lot less drama than the other board we are on together. Enjoy the ride and keep reporting!

Rob, thanks for the info, I see now that I want not parts of SBs in Chicago, LOL.

Looks like my AF time is getting ready to pay off. I have a few lined up for M&Gs soon. I'll keep you updated. One very nice feature is their Q&A section. I just started reading the Q&A from the POTs. One of the questions is "Would you have sex on the first date?". For those of us who are not quite as smooth to ensure first date success, this is a great help. Although I've had lots of success, my first date Tiggabounce rate pales in comparison to my second date success. So now it's the first answer I look for, hoping they answered it.

BigTigg

[LikeMike1963]

Play nice. Many people have varied tastes and she's just trying to make a living.

Nooooo Make it go away!

[Member #5570]

I know this is not a very common occurrence, but some of you have SB referral from an existing SB.

This is a first for me, so it's a little intriguing.

I've met this 23 yr old AA SB last week. We only dated once at the FC. I've tried to squeeze in another date before her move out of town, but I couldn't because of work and her getting ready for the move. She needed a little $ for her move, and that's why we met and we have a few attempts that failed because she was kind of cold feeted. Our meeting almost didn't happen, but I convinced her while being funny at the same time and she bought into it. She was a really nice and sweet girl, though inexperienced.

Anyway, a few days after her move I've followed up and txt her just to check in and see how things go, yeah I am a gentleman (a horny one. LOL). So we exchanged a few txt messages and she mentioned that her friend might want to meet me, so I say sure why not but I asked if her friend was as pretty as her, jokingly of course. So she called her friend and gave her my number. Shortly after, I received a msg with from her friend and we exchanged txts throughout the day, then some pics etc. She's also 23yr AA, but much slimmer and a former amateur model. She's got a 1yrd kid, and the baby's dad is out of the picture so she needs a little financial support. Found out she's been on the SD4M site a few months, and found nothing a few fakes.

I think she got the body that Hollywood might agree with. 5'4 and probably way less than 105lbs according to her pics. I am trying to set up a date with her this week, probably straight to the FC as I always do. I usually tell them that I am married and need to be discreet, so we need to meet at a hotel. I'll bring drinks, we'll chat and get to know each other and just see how it goes. But usually, it ends up with POF, with the only exception being the mini Byonce girl that I've reported earlier.

[Rob Taylor]

Hey Rob,

I'm fishing in the Chicago pool as well, for the past 4 years, and have had great success! Maybe you need to Polish your text a bit, or your initial / follow up techniques?

Keep at it, and let me know if you want to share approaches / leads. PM me with your email address. ChiGuy606 on this thread is also here, and we have each others backs. It's a beautiful thing!

Scott

Not too say you can't get laid in Chicago. But if you look at the prices vs quality compared to other cities. Chicago is lacking. You can get a super hott close to model like chick (white girl) in LA for like 300. In Chicago your shelling out about 300-500 for a normal looking White chick, and 4$-6$ for a super hott one. New York has high prices like Chicago, but the woman are better looking, so you get more value. Its not that there is not talent, but you just don't get as much bang for your buck. This is my observation from sampling different markets and reading reports on the forum and comparing prices. Chicago's problem is that there is really no centrally located area of white girls who need help, most girls who live in Lakeview or River North don't need an SD. The market is tight this also enable non white SB's to raise prices. I have no problem getting laid on the SD scene, just railed a former model at my house over the weekend. I'm just saying in other cities I could have done samething without as much as a beating on my wallet.

[WoodSlinger]

Hi yall come see me private shows 50 BJ 100 every thing body rubs much more 5023560975 I am 100 real. No drugs games I never turn a client away. And I am lots of fun to be with I am single as well so what you waiteing for make that call xxo.

Nooooo Make it go away!

[F Scott]

Back in the game, I finally got back in the game in a huge way. As you know the Chicago market is not as good as other metro areas, but I think I'm getting the hang of it.

Hey Rob,

I'm fishing in the Chicago pool as well, for the past 4 years, and have had great success! Maybe you need to polish your text a bit, or your initial / follow up techniques?

Keep at it, and let me know if you want to share approaches / leads. PM me with your email address. ChiGuy606 on this thread is also here, and we have each others backs. It's a beautiful thing!

Scott

[BigTigger]

So my M&G with the spinner with the body of my ATF, let's call her MsLilMama, was initially cancelled then the venue changed. We talked on the phone for about 45 minutes then about an hour before the date she could not find a sitter. So she invited me by after the baby was asleep. Now this is our first meeting, so I did not want to spook her or disrespect that fact she was letting me come to her place. At the same time I wanted to be prepared, because she came across as very down to earth and easy going.

So I asked if I could bring dinner, even though it was late, didn't want to show up with just a hard-on. I found a nice Thai spot, sent her the link, she picked her meal and I picked it up on the way there. She mentioned that she had a bottle of some alcoholic beverage, so I could just get something to drink for myself. With that information, I decided I'd better get condoms and some sugar.

She was laid back, easy to look at and very comfortable. She opened the door with some black yoga pants (wow she has a nice butt for a small girl) and a simple blouse. Her 34Cs were very accentuated. Lo and behold the food was good and very spicy, but it paled in comparison to the rest of the evening.

So we ate on the couch watching TV, after I finished I asked if I could move over and sit beside her (I asked and moved at the same time). From that point, she made it a point to touch and semi-snuggle. Eventually we talked more about the relationship and things we could do. So finally I positioned myself in front of her on the couch and said, I guess there isn't much else to say and started kissing her right there on the couch.

Before you know it we are into some heavy making out and I have boobs in my mouth and things are moving along well. With the kid sleep in the bedroom, I wasn't quite sure how far she wanted to go, but her body language was 100% full speed ahead. At some point I positioned her on my lap and she started grinding and moaning. I began to move her shirt up to kiss on her stomach and she raised her hands. So I quickly caught the hint and took off the shirt and bra. I then instructed her to take off my shirt, she liked being told what to do. After a few more minutes of bare-chest to boob making out. It was time.

I flipped her over, laid her on the couch, put her hands in my pants, and took off her yoga pants. I then started a slow round of oral on her. Man she was tasty! I had to go slow because I still had on my pants and I was on the floor while she was on the couch. So I had to keep licking her while getting my pants off, getting the condom box out of my pants pocket, getting the condom out the box, getting the condom out the wrapper and getting the condom on. I did not want to lose momentum and I wanted to be as smooth as possible. Eventually I was able to accomplish all of this. By this time she was getting close. So I upped the intensity of the licking and right as she started to orgasm I put it in, this almost sent her through the roof. She was trying to be quiet, but some of the noises she just could not help.

Multiple positions, one more orgasm for her and one for me and we were both sweaty and spent. We laid on the couch wrapped in each others arms for some afterglow. I eventually cleaned up and headed home. She had lots of nice things to say and was impressed that she had 2 orgasms. She told me, she didn't know she could have two, just had just told me earlier that day that she was the one and done type. I gave her the agreed upon $ and we texted while I drove home.

We have talked this morning and exchanged texts and emails. I talked about the first date thing. She was like, look we know what this is, why play games. She was very attracted to me and I could tell by her body language that she wanted it badly. Afterwards she said "that is exactly what I needed".

This girl is a keeper 8/9/10/9

Her body is like this, with just a little bigger butt and hips

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/at...hmentid=272207

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/at...hmentid=272206

[FredMoore]

Who would have thunk? Is there such a thing as too much pussy?

We each have our biologic limit as far as ability to orgasm, get an erection, etc. Variety is definitely the key to maxing out your OPW (Orgasm Per Week) capability. I found that 3 days in a row with the same girl makes it hard to orgasm the 3rd day, but three different girls are usually no problem. I have never had 4 different women in 4 days straight so that remains a goal if I reenter the Sugar world at some point. I am not one of the lucky guys who can pop multiple times / session. But that one pop is worth the price of admission.

The thing about SO sex, after decades it gets boring and to top it all off women in menopause lose their interest in sex. I have talked to many older women who tell me that they would be happy never having it again and only do so to keep their man off their back (or actually on their backs LOL ). Think about the biology of it. Sex is designed to make reproduction a fun thing so that we will do it a lot, go forth and populate the Earth. Men spread their seed and women have and nurture the offspring. When childbearing is no longer possible there is no more need for sex from a repro POV. Many husbands in long term marriages or relationships seek out sex partners to fill that void ++ hence Sugar World. A common thread here is that we "love our SO ", but ++++

SOs want emotional and physical gratification, SBs want sex and $$. My most recent ATF# 4 is the only one I've been with who I feel needs servicing on a regular basis and will miss my Dick. But she (and I) knows that there are replacements around the corner.

[Walruscl]

One thing I will say is that the girl who waits for the second meeting tend to be more normal and stable then girls who do it on the 1st date. I have had some 1st date girls who were for the most part cool, but the econd date girls seem like better long term material and less weird and skittish. Also if a girl waits to the second date you can be sure that she is not a pro, non pro, or UTR in disguise as a SB. UTR' would not go through that much time and effort.

My counterpoint in my (admittedly limited) career as a SD is that "it depends". My SB / mistress waited until the first time after the M&G, and biology dictated that I receive only. Messed-up childhood aside, she's very normal, sweet, and kind. So that lines up with your maxim.

On the flip side, I was ensnared by a UTR, who also waited until the 2nd meeting. Although she was pushing pretty hard by then (apparently I didn't move her threat-meter very much) and knew exactly what she was doing in terms of getting us into a FC so she could do me once, take the money, and do a quick exit. Live and learn, but waiting until the 2nd date definitely does not exclude Pros or UTRs.

[HollywoodGuy]

It seems like there is a lot of awesome sex going on in the SB world, as it should be. It's apparent to anyone that has been doing this for a while that the supply of pussy far exceeds the amount of available dick. Yours included. For those of you that have an SO. How many times a month do you hit that? I am single and do not have nearly enough dick to supply the girls I see and always have to make excuses why I can't see them more often. Even if you know they know you play around, you can't really say that. Sometimes I will do 2 in a day (just like when I was married and had no choice).

So is it that your SO just has very minimal needs in which case it may not come up too often? Or is more of just wanting some variety? I was married twice and I do remember dry spells. But if all of a sudden my SO wanted it and I didn't deliver, that would have been a giant red flag. She considered me some kind of sex fiend and sex fiends don't turn down sex. So do you guys just fuck till you are numb (my problem today, which is what brought all this to mind) or do you find a balance or what? I know I have a hard (or not so hard time. LOL. As the case may be) in scheduling all this shit in.

This is a quality problem, but a problem all the same. For guys that do SW's and escorts this is no big deal which is one reason I think they prefer them. But your SB's are counting on sugar from a very limited number of guys or maybe just you. I know I have paid for skipped dates at times just to keep the piece / peace. And the only reason I skip a date is that I am just sexed out.

An SB can be controlled with money and dick (and even then not always)(if that persists at least you can boot 'em) , but an SO needs more than that. You probably didnt get hooked up just for pussy, it was the total package. And they are not going to be mollified just by buying them something. I once bought my wife a new car (the one she picked out) and didn't get laid that night.

[Rob Taylor]

MW welcome brother, it's good to see you her on this board. This board is a lot less drama than the other board we are on together. Enjoy the ride and keep reporting!

Rob, thanks for the info, I see now that I want not parts of SBs in Chicago, LOL.

Looks like my AF time is getting ready to pay off. I have a few lined up for M&Gs soon. I'll keep you updated. One very nice feature is their Q&A section. I just started reading the Q&A from the POTs. One of the questions is "Would you have sex on the first date?". For those of us who are not quite as smooth to ensure first date success, this is a great help. Although I've had lots of success, my first date Tiggabounce rate pales in comparison to my second date success. So now it's the first answer I look for, hoping they answered it.

BigTigg

One thing I will say is that the girl who waits for the second meeting tend to be more normal and stable then girls who do it on the 1st date. I have had some 1st date girls who were for the most part cool, but the econd date girls seem like better long term material and less weird and skittish. Also if a girl waits to the second date you can be sure that she is not a pro, non pro, or UTR in disguise as a SB. UTR' would not go through that much time and effort.

[HollywoodGuy]

So I have had my new profile on SD4M for about 8 days and have just sat there to see who responds. I got about 80 messages of which about 10 were real and maybe 3 were interesting. I have narrowed it down to 1 that I am messaging.

I only post this for the new guys. You can pretty much disregard the first full week or two of unsolicited responses as they are mostly BS. I intentionally made the focus of the ad very narrow so as to appeal to the least number of girls possible. I put a code word in the profile and ask them to message me with the code word in the subject line, which about 10% to 20% have done.

I will probably only keep it up there for 2 months and then try another one. I will keep my old profile up and continue to target only brand new girls (as in it's their first day on the site) that are 18 to 20 unless they are true spinner materiel in which case I guess they could be any age.

[BigTigger]

MsCoolSlim. Easily one of the prettiest is excited about meeting on Wed. We have exchanged a few emails since we set the date. I'm not 100% sure how long it's going to take for the Tiggabounce, I know she's been a bit skittish about the whole online thing. I do know, she's not had sex in over a year and she just started dating again. So I'm going to put a full court press on her for the next week and try to close this deal. Wed, I'll pay for the meal and give her. 50 for gas. I'll then set up another date, movie, dinner. And do much more flirting and hopefully get in some good kissing, I'll give her another. 50. Then setup the third date as a dinner date with the hotel option.

FYI: I've started a new approach to getting to the Tiggabounce faster. It's new to me, but many others have used it a lot. When planning the dinner date I ask,"is it ok to have dinner at a really nice hotel restaurant and we can decide by the end of dinner to move the fun to a room?" This has worked for me more often than not. It also quickly let's you know where here mind is at. I'll do that with MsSlimCool on date #3.

I have a date with MsPreLaw (22 years old) on Wed night and hit her with almost that exact question. She was all for it. This one is willing to take $ per meet, whenever I'm free.

The 21 year old AA spinner and I are meeting tomorrow night at a nice hotel restaurant with option of a room. I'm going to have to call her, MsNSASpinner as she does not communicate much and seems to really be into the NSA, let's just plan and do it, no need for a bunch of talk in between, LOL. I still think she might be semi-pro, but I'm still sticking to our financial agreement regardless, LOL.

Another hit from AF. 25 year old AA. 5'1 with small be-cups, but nice bottom. She has the exact same body as my ATF that I'm seeing. Except she's much closer, available more and younger. She has a job and is only looking for a little extra. She's agreed to $ per meet also (I presented it as twice a week $800 per month). We are going to have an impromptu M&G today. Something simple, probably about an hour and I'll give her gas money. I expect that by first real date, we'll be having the Tiggabounce!

Keep up the good work guys and by all means report back.

BigTigg