"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Blak Casper]

A little common sense to ferret out the scammers is a must! I met a girl the other day from AM who said she was an USC student.

What raised my alarm bells was when I asked her if she drove and she said "you can come over her" I asked where is here,

She said 55th and Western!

Now that area doesn't make me feel warm and tingly. She was ready to give up the goods though, come and get it. She said she need 2 books. 1 was $80, the other was $120.

As she seemed to have more professional ways, than I wanted I passed. She then texts me to say she needed $65 by 7:30pm (it was 7:15pm) to pay her rent or she would be evicted as she had been robbed.

She must have been scamming others on AM as they erased her email to me and restored the credits back to my account.

On the bright side the next day a girl I 1st talked to on SD4ME 3 months ago, called after I saw her on POF (plenty of fish,) and wanted to come over for a drink. As she works I let her come by for a drink, after half the drink she wanted a repeat of the hug she gave me coming in, and while that was going on she started grabbing my dick and gave some free head.

No money was discussed.

On the down side, she texts me 2 days later saying she needed gas money, as I'm not intending to see her again (she didn't match her photo recent enough) I have not offered her the gas money.

[F Scott]

Don't know if you guys saw this, almost too weird to be true. SB gets Mexican boyfriend, and end up duck taping and robbing the SD in the apartment he provided her.

http://www.indystar.com/article/2013...02?odyssey=mod

|mostcom

And still, the poor bastard thinks she didn't have anything to do with it!

It is a wonder, is it not?

Scott

[Buster Hymen]

Don't know if you guys saw this, almost too weird to be true. SB gets Mexican boyfriend, and end up duck taping and robbing the SD in the apartment he provided her.

http://www.indystar.com/article/2013...02?odyssey=mod|mostcom

[HollywoodGuy]

I've read a lot of posts on here about guys getting emotionally involved and thought I would share my experience.

So. I met this girl on SA about a year ago on a biz trip, we kept seeing each other, initially it was $$$$ per overnight (she's mid-twenties, rocking bod, Ivy league grad etc) , but after two dates she told me she liked me and I didn't have to pay for it anymore. She moved to NY, we've kept seeing each other fairly often, traveling together (she wants an exclusive bf relationship. And I'm good with free BBFS) , all good.

Except I know she is still banging some of you guys (I may have seen some texts of hers.) Which is fine. It is what it is. Just a word to the wise, don't let yourself get caught up emotionally with these women or you will get burned. Just remember what you are dealing with. My $.02.

The weird part is sitting across the table from a hot, smart girl, and knowing that she is flat out lying to you. Adds an interesting emotional twist to the bedroom sessions.

With the type of girl you are describing I can see with all her options why she does what she does. Ivy league Grad. I try to put my focus on lower income exotic girls that don't have the needs that a more financially upscale girl would. I used to date those girls but came to the conclusion they weren't any better looking or better in bed. They may be more educated but I am not looking for esoteric conversations about Chaos Theory or philosophical discourse on Deconstruction. I definitely have to do some fixing up (hair, nails, clothes) when I meet a new girl, but I am cool with that. I like diamonds in the rough. Also their maintenance level after that is a lot less as well. Overall it seems to cost a lot less to get a much greater level of appreciation.

As far as e-volvement. All my regulars want to marry me. Thats the way I like it.

[HollywoodGuy]

Way too easy when you have millions of dollars at your disposal. Most of us work with a monthly budget of $1-$3k.

My budget is the same. But it's nice to dream.

[Member #4103]

I am the poster boy for E Involvement and I'm trying to get past that. After the breakup with my ATF I discovered that she was working 3 full time SDs each of us thinking that we were the one and only. It was disquieting to think that we were all swapping spit and sperm and who knows what other STDs in the mix. I am envious of those of you (Commander) who don't seem to care that your SB is banging others. It is an easier way to be.

The thing is, They can't help themselves. If you put milk in front of a kitten they will drink. These needy Babies, whether desperate or not, can easily gather serious coin from multiple Daddies who are throwing money at them. Many of us (SDs) act pretty desperate to bag a babe and offer crazy $ amounts to do a simple task like sleep with us, which comes naturally to them. Morality is but a fleeting thought in their consciousness.

A hooker friend charges $1600 / day to travel with a John to Vegas for example plus expenses. A SB will go for the trip only and a few hundred $ spending cash. How can they resisit temptation like this? It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Have Money Will travel

Great analogy, kittens and milk. I think, like most of us, they can completely compartmentalize sex. Not a bad thing. I actually busted her about one guy, she swears she will never see him again. But I know at 3k per night she will see him again. And I saw his email address. Hmmm. That could be fun. But I won't go there.

[Member #5570]

http://articles.latimes.com/keyword/...-mudd/recent/2

I remember reading about this guy in the local paper and thinking. This is the way to do it. This was about 20 years ago and the seed was planted.

He had 7 SB's that he had ensconced each in their own home and saw each one once a week.

He is my role model.

Way too easy when you have millions of dollars at your disposal. Most of us work with a monthly budget of $1-$3k.

[Hernando]

I've read a lot of posts on here about guys getting emotionally involved and thought I would share my experience.

The weird part is sitting across the table from a hot, smart girl, and knowing that she is flat out lying to you. Adds an interesting emotional twist to the bedroom sessions.

I am the poster boy for E Involvement and I'm trying to get past that. After the breakup with my ATF I discovered that she was working 3 full time SDs each of us thinking that we were the one and only. It was disquieting to think that we were all swapping spit and sperm and who knows what other STDs in the mix. I am envious of those of you (Commander) who don't seem to care that your SB is banging others. It is an easier way to be.

The thing is , They can't help themselves. If you put milk in front of a kitten they will drink . These needy Babies ,whether desperate or not , can easily gather serious coin from multiple Daddies who are throwing money at them . Many of us ( SDs ) act pretty desperate to bag a babe and offer crazy $ amounts to do a simple task like sleep with us ,which comes naturally to them . Morality is but a fleeting thought in their consciousness .

A hooker friend charges $1600/day to travel with a John to Vegas for example plus expenses . A SB will go for the trip only and a few hundred $ spending cash . How can they resisit temptation like this ? It's like shooting fish in a barrel .

Have Money Will travel

[Member #4103]

I've read a lot of posts on here about guys getting emotionally involved and thought I would share my experience.

So. I met this girl on SA about a year ago on a biz trip, we kept seeing each other, initially it was $$$$ per overnight (she's mid-twenties, rocking bod, Ivy league grad etc) , but after two dates she told me she liked me and I didn't have to pay for it anymore. She moved to NY, we've kept seeing each other fairly often, traveling together (she wants an exclusive bf relationship. And I'm good with free BBFS), all good.

Except I know she is still banging some of you guys (I may have seen some texts of hers.) Which is fine. It is what it is. Just a word to the wise, don't let yourself get caught up emotionally with these women or you will get burned. Just remember what you are dealing with. My $.02.

The weird part is sitting across the table from a hot, smart girl, and knowing that she is flat out lying to you. Adds an interesting emotional twist to the bedroom sessions.

[HollywoodGuy]

He is a man to admire for 1) living the American dream (inheritance) and 2) slaying the pussy.

It is all about the Money.

" If you got the money you get the honey." If I had $10 s of millions I would have girls all over the place. Like Bigg Tigg, Hollywood, Scotty. Geez! If you guys had those kind of bucks (and maybe you do) your dicks would scar from overuse.

The funny (or not so funny) thing is. When I had the big money I had 3 or 4 gold diggers KILLING me. Now that I am a normal middle income earner I have 3 exclusive women that ADORE me and give me the best sex ever (and 3 more part timers that treat me right). If I ever go back up to even half of what I used to make prior to this administrations business strangling regulations (which are never going to be rolled back) I would possibly up the monthly allowances, but nowhere near what they were and just have more affordable (maybe up to 7) babies.

And I cut my X wifes alimony by 70 percent.

[FredMoore]

He is a man to admire for 1) living the American dream (inheritance) and 2) slaying the pussy.

It is all about the Money.

" If you got the money you get the honey." If I had $10 s of millions I would have girls all over the place.like Bigg Tigg, Hollywood, Scotty. Geez! If you guys had those kind of bucks (and maybe you do) your dicks would scar from overuse.

[HollywoodGuy]

http://articles.latimes.com/keyword/...-mudd/recent/2

I remember reading about this guy in the local paper and thinking. This is the way to do it. This was about 20 years ago and the seed was planted.

He had 7 SB's that he had ensconced each in their own home and saw each one once a week. He is my role model.

[Revvo]

Hollywood,

I see your point. It is like a candy store and you get to pick your flavor. And I have heard other comments on here about about how you do not get the drama with the SB. That you get with a civvie.

May be true. It just seems like there is so much work to this? Maybe I am still learning. I only started in February. I guess I need to get some more experience. I keep hearing about how my demographic has an advantage with these civvie women. The ones over 35. I actually prefer a woman that is a little more I. Touch with her own body. May give it a try.

By the way I got a M&G with a very hot AA young 20 yo. 8/10/7 this afternoon. We will see how it goes. She may have contracted a case of GPS. We will see how bad. I am also meeting my main Asian SB tomorrow for the day. And a new white 21 yo 7/9/7 POT on Monday for a m&g.

More reports to follow.

Revvo

[HollywoodGuy]

Smokarz,

I am curious about this myself. I told the story of two friends of mine recently divorced and killing the pussy. They are in their early 40's not good looking in fact one could be considered kinda homely. Good jobs but not money by any means. Both have good personalities. And can hold a conversation. But they got on these dating sites and were just fucking these women left and right. Even up to doing two a day!

Here I am working my ass off. Paying lots of money and trying to coax these babies out of their shyness or whatever they have. Dealing with god knows what kind of emotional trauma. And to top it off. I make three times as much money as these guys. Have many more assets, and I am even better looking than them. (at the risk of sounding conceited, I am just trying to put into perspective). These guys have told me that if I was single I would be "slaying the pussy out there". Their words not mine.

What the fuck is wrong with this picture?

Now the latest story. I have another friend better looking guy, makes good money. I would consider his personality ok, a little goofy. Not a player by any means. He is going through a bad divorce and goes to the bar about twice a week to sit there and watch the game or talk to the bartender. In the span of two months he has gotten laid about 10 times. And he is not even trying! The women are coming up to him and he is getting hot women. I have seen the pictures! 27, 31, 39, 40ish. All white all good looking. Some are telling him to just call when he wants to fuck. And costs him nothing. With a few exceptions not even buying them dinner!

This is fucking frustrating. He was told by a friend who is a mid forties divorced woman. That if you are normal to good looking and have a good job in this age range. You have a 10 to 1 advantage with the women. Essentially you are the hot commodity.

I just can't help but think. I am going about this all wrong. Too much work, too much money. And for something I could get for free and easy?

What do you guys think?

Revvo.

PS: I met this really cute tall 32YO white, brunette MILF, going through a divorce. I met her through a separate social encounter. I have her number. I think I am going to call her today and see if she wants to go and get a drink one night. Lets see what happens.

I don't know about you. But I LOVE going online and picking the exact type of face / body I am looking for out of HUNDREDs / maybe thousands of profiles. In a bar you get to pick from how many girls? I am very picky, hate pickup lines, and get the kind out girls that never go for them. So it's a different type of girl. Also I will not date a girl that drinks more than one drink, not likely in a bar.

[F Scott]

100% Agree, this has been one of my force multipliers. It is why I upgraded my phone to a virgin mobile android, $50 per month unlimited. I have found that I am preferring the younger ones now too.

BigTigg

As I have said before, in order to talk to the youg ones, and successfully bed them, you need to speak their language. I text now almost exclusively, once initial contact has been made and I've got their email and cell info. It increases the gravitational pull on the panties by a huge degree, getting them on the floor much faster than before I started texting. I now have to guard against all the "text-ese" creeping into my regular business correspondence.

Just got back from a lunch m&g with a hot mom who is good to go as soon as we can arrange a meeting in the FC. She is quirky, funny, artistic and smart, just how I like them, but at 32 is at the top end of my preferred age bracket. Something about her is extremely appealing, though. We spent about 15 minutes making out in my car before she got back on the train, and it definitely promised some very enjoyable things to come, so I am feeling happy. Got several flirty texts on the drive back to the office, which I also like.

Second date planned with an art student tomorrow, who frankly is out of my league in terms of attractiveness, but I think there are some daddy issues there, so I'm just going to roll with it. The fact that she is studying something that I do as part of my job is helpful. If I can land her in the next few weeks I'll be thrilled. She lives alone, so the scheduling will be much easier.

Thursday I have a "lunch" set with a 6' redhead who I spent the night with last week when my SO was out of town. She is absolutely gymnastic in bed, and, again, I find her immensely appealing. Scottie was at his most agile and alert all evening long, so I'm sure she is expecting a repeat performance, and I will do my best to give it to her.

It's great to see how active we all have become, and to see the posts of some new members of the club. Keep up the good work, gentlemen,

Scott