"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[BigTigger]

I.

On a final note, some people may be surprised with the amount of texting I do. But I like it doing it because a) You can tell if she's a Pro or not, regular girls like to text, pros often just want to get straight to the point be) It keeps my costs down. Some girls like to be paid in "attention" as well as cash. If you take the time to talk with them for a bit, they are more likely not to see you purely as an ATM machine. See) As mentioned before, it feeds my ego. The personal touch is why I see SBs over pros. It's not just about costs, I like knowing that I'm talking to a real human being and not a glorified blowup doll. So text is worth the time investment for me.

100% Agree, this has been one of my force multipliers. It is why I upgraded my phone to a virgin mobile android, $50 per month unlimited. I have found that I am preferring the younger ones now too.

BigTigg

[John G Smith]

I guess it's time for to do another update as well. After having my SB stable pretty much burn to the ground around the beginning of the year, from the ashes my stable has reemerged younger, tighter, and cheaper.

Innocence SB now known as Girlfriend SB

She's the young 18 year-old AA girl (8/8/10) I met a little over a month ago. She had a genuine attraction to me and said it wasn't all about the money from the start. We've might twice in the FC and so far the romps have been smoking. We text every day throughout the day. I've given her a total 140 since we've been together. Insanely low CPO. Just the other day she said her feelings were getting stronger for me and that she wanted to officially be boyfriend / girlfriend. I agreed. Not only will this keep my costs down with her but I genuinely enjoy the attention she gives me. I may love her at somepoint but I don't ever see myself leaving my wife for her, so I'm not worried about the usual "E-invovelment" hazards. But it's just a great feeling having a nubile 18 year-old just infatuated with you, great for the ego and libido. Due to distance, I only see her 1-2 times a month. So as much as I like her, I still needed some additional SBs to fill in the gaps.

Punk SB.

Another young 18 year-old half asian / half latina (8/6/9) SB I met in the last week or so and this one is closer to home. She also still lives at home, so her allowance needs are extremely modest. She was over the moon with the 100 I offered her. She's completely new and I nabbed her off SDFM from the new sign-ups and then quickly had her close her profile. We met last week and after the M&G we went straight to the FC because both of us had a pretty tight schedule. We were pressed for time but I found a notel near her house and then quickly did the deed. I could tell she was new to everything, but when it came down to the bedroom activity she was relaxed and let loose pretty easily. She's not highly skilled yet but it's clear she's a fast and willing learner. We haven't established a routine yet, but I'm budgeting two meetups a month with her. She texted me the day after our romp, so she was still on board. I don't text her nearly the same amount as my Girlfriend, but we usually exchange maybe 3-4 texts per day.

Geek SB.

She's a 20 year-old half asian / half white (7/7/8). She's a geeky full-time college student. Technically she's still a pot since we haven't done the deed yet. She's also new to the SB world but had a friend who was a professional SB advise her. Because of this, she was in GPS territory initially. But I talked her off the edge and it also helped that we have quite a few common interests. We did the pre-negotiations and settled on 450-500 per month. She has her own apartment, so she would be able to host (though she does have a roommate). She doesn't live around the corner, but she's still in the local area. If I could see her at least 3 times a month, then it will be a pretty good CPO. So we did a M&G this weekend and I thought it went well but you can never really tell sometimes. But she texted me immediately afterward basically continuing the conversation we had over lunch. No specific FC plans yet, but she's also texted me everyday since we met (exchange about 6-8 texts a day). So she's clearly still interested. But I'm going to wait for her to initiate the FC date. I want her to want it and honestly my plate is a bit full at the moment, so I can be patient.

Backseat SB.

She's back! I've been seeing this 20-year old latina SB (7/8/6) off and on for about a year. She's a pure booty call SB. We had a bit of a falling out about 2 months ago but I reached out to her recently and was extremely eager to start back up again. It was almost like she had been waiting on me to contact her again. We don't really connect at all personality-wise, but she's local, spinner, amazing tits, and knows how to grind in the backseat of a car. I thought she might go UTR, but she never did. I found out I was basically the only guy she was doing P2P with. So even though we don't really click, I still like having a hot young latina who's exclusive to me (in the sugar world) and basically on call.

Gone out to Pasture.

I let a couple SBs go. The 18-year-old stripper SB still texts me every 3-4 days, but she's somewhat unreliable. Body-wise she's probably a 9/10 (face / body) , but I can see the stripper lifestyle taking over before my eyes. On her Facebook page, she's showing off the weed she's about to smoke and etc. I'm not a prude or anything but I'm extremely cautious of SBs who use drugs. Unpredictable and unreliable. There's enough clean SBs out there that I can avoid the ones that have "habits". The Escort SB is also in the wind. I didn't strike it when it was hot and honestly I have better options that I didn't really need her in my stable anymore, so I stopped pursuing her.

So I now have 3-4 SBs in rotation all under the age of 21. My Girlfriend is my favorite and the other 3 girls will fill in the gaps. All of them are pretty much on a twice a month schedule.

On a final note, some people may be surprised with the amount of texting I do. But I like it doing it because a) You can tell if she's a Pro or not, regular girls like to text, pros often just want to get straight to the point be) It keeps my costs down. Some girls like to be paid in "attention" as well as cash. If you take the time to talk with them for a bit, they are more likely not to see you purely as an ATM machine. See) As mentioned before, it feeds my ego. The personal touch is why I see SBs over pros. It's not just about costs, I like knowing that I'm talking to a real human being and not a glorified blowup doll. So text is worth the time investment for me.

[BigTigger]

Not that they are not hard to find, but if anyone is interested in a 40 something curvy-thick white sb, I have a lead on SA. She is easy to talk to, ok looking, big boobs, a little extra weight on her, willing to drive and willing to go to FC on the first date. I had a date scheduled, but I have too much going on to take on this adventure.

BigTigg

[FredMoore]

Smokarz,

(That) if you are normal to good looking and have a good job in this age range. You have a 10 to 1 advantage with the women. Essentially you are the hot commodity.

I just can't help but think. I am going about this all wrong. Too much work, too much money. And for something I could get for free and easy?

What do you guys think?

Revvo

I feel your pain Rev! I too am a decent looking young looking senior citizen and sat in bars with no hot babes approaching me, so I don't know what these guys have that I don't. Perhaps youth, but therein lies the problem. I have a desire for 20 somethings and am not interested in older girls (over 35ish) and the only access to this age group for me is Dough Re Mi. I could slay 40 somethings all day long but not my style.

Now there is one exception to this on the regular dating sites. And that involves girls who want to land a husband who has money and social status. For us mongers who don't want marriage or are already married we need girls to bang who are either attracted to us or our money. Some of you guys who are in your 30s and early 40s probably can attract the youngsters with your own charm.

So I have to continue to put the money out there and catch what I can.

[PartyTimeGuy]

Hollywood has inspired me. So let me see, maybe I'm underestimating the fun I'm having.

NSA / Bootycall Group.

(Maryland)

- Thick 28 year old AA, with own place, career, etc. $200 per month. Met on SA Seeing her 2 to 3 times a month. #FreakyDentalAssitant.

- Thick big body AA 37 year old (H-Boobs. Big shapely butt. Almost no fat on her at all). Met on AM, meeting once a month. No cost #MsBigBody.

(Virginia)

-MsOxyMoron. $400 per month, seeing her once a week. I'm still paying for hotels, but found a 3 star for $88

-FreakyLatina. Thick Latina, met on AM. We meet Once a month. No cost.

Potential Girlfriend Group (agreed gift amounts)

MsSuccessful. We stopped seeing each other. She's married and her situation just changed too much for us to be a good fit. (no cost)

Druggie College SB. Spinner, with great face, we are just not a good match. ($700 per month)

-South Carolina 24 Year AA, nice legs, big boobs, little extra around the waist. She's moving here in the fall. She will have her own place and be a full time student. We are meeting in a few weeks. ($750 per month)

-Baltimore 21 year old AA college cutie. Just started emailing, have not met yet.

-DC 21 year old AA, works and goes to school in accounting field. Only exchanging emails so far.

Long Distance Group.

-Atlanta Big Butt friend. Was meeting once a month, now once every 2 months. Cover cost of expenses and $200 cash spending money when she's here.

-Alabama friend. 5'11, big boobs, runner. Met on dating site many years back. I see her once every 3 to 4 months. Expenses only.

-California White Thick 4'11, big boobs and big butt. We've not met, but she's ready to cum visit. Expenses only.

-Delaware 5'7 AA with not butt but big boobs. We were meeting once a month, but now it's very sporadic. $60-100 when we meet.

-Delaware 5'4 AA with big butt and big boobs. She has a butt that's even distracting to women. We were meeting once a month, but now it's very sporadic. $60-100 when we meet.

-Tidewater area Virgina, very pretty AA. 44 years old, nice boobs. Absolutely flat as ironing board butt. Meeting once a month. Met on AM. No cost.

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Currently on the hook for $400 with MsOxyMoron, plus $360 in hotel bills.

Everyone else is pay as you go or we have not sealed the deal on the arrangement yet.

I have a big boobs or big butt fetish. Got to have one or the other or be really cute / pretty.

I'm trying to stay under a total monthly budget of $1500.

BigTigg.

"I'd rather have a 6 three times than a 10 once"

Total agreement here. Three times six beats 10 times one.

I don't have the time or the energy to have the SB stable you or HollywoodGuy or Revvo and others keep but I have a small SB collection which is constantly evolving:

19 year old chubby freak: cute nympho who loves to be tied up, spanked and squirted for hours; meals and a show every once in a while.

45 year old MILF; newly divorced and feeling her oats; .5$ every now and then.

Pair of young lesbians (or so they say) .19 and 20: get a kick out of occasional cock; meals and $ for both for hours of fun.

19 year old; 6 rating overall with a 10 bubble ass; screamer and sucks like a Hoover; shopping is her thing.

When I grow up maybe I will have a real collection like you.

[PartyTimeGuy]

Met a moderately attractive (with a nice body) white MILF on SD4ME for dinner. She refused any cash payment saying that would be prostitution. $.7 for the dinner. We then went for a romantic walk in the park which led to a park bench where we spent the next hour groping like teenagers by the light of the moon. She suggested her coming to my place for the second date for a sleepover.

She is not looking for any romantic entanglements. Only a guy that can help get her over her proclaimed shyness. Like when I was rubbing her pussy she wouldn't let me look into her eyes and kept forcing me to makeout instead. A common theme I have seen over the years is younger girls looking to gain sexual experience (hence the older guy selection). Even though I regularly date much younger girls, she said I was the oldest guy she had ever dated.

Not totally my type physically, but she had a sweet personality and was very interested in persuing her sex fantasies and desires. It's our job to help these girls achieve their highest possible sexual potential. They should actually be paying us.

Your approach is similar to what I like to do. Variety is the objective. All ages, sizes and shapes are welcome because the attitude is the key. The chase and the game should be half the fun. Groping in the park like teenagers with a plan to pursue her sex fantasies and desires? I love it!

[Revvo]

Smokarz,

I am curious about this myself. I told the story of two friends of mine recently divorced and killing the pussy. They are in their early 40's not good looking in fact one could be considered kinda homely. Good jobs but not money by any means. Both have good personalities. And can hold a conversation. But they got on these dating sites and were just fucking these women left and right. Even up to doing two a day!

Here I am working my ass off. Paying lots of money and trying to coax these babies out of their shyness or whatever they have. Dealing with god knows what kind of emotional trauma. And to top it off. I make three times as much money as these guys. Have many more assets, and I am even better looking than them. (at the risk of sounding conceited, I am just trying to put into perspective). These guys have told me that if I was single I would be "slaying the pussy out there". Their words not mine.

What the fuck is wrong with this picture?

Now the latest story. I have another friend better looking guy, makes good money. I would consider his personality ok, a little goofy. Not a player by any means. He is going through a bad divorce and goes to the bar about twice a week to sit there and watch the game or talk to the bartender. In the span of two months he has gotten laid about 10 times. And he is not even trying! The women are coming up to him and he is getting hot women. I have seen the pictures! 27, 31, 39, 40ish. All white all good looking. Some are telling him to just call when he wants to fuck. And costs him nothing. With a few exceptions not even buying them dinner!

This is fucking frustrating. He was told by a friend who is a mid forties divorced woman. That if you are normal to good looking and have a good job in this age range. You have a 10 to 1 advantage with the women. Essentially you are the hot commodity.

I just can't help but think. I am going about this all wrong. Too much work, too much money. And for something I could get for free and easy?

What do you guys think?

Revvo

PS: I met this really cute tall 32YO white, brunette MILF, going through a divorce. I met her through a separate social encounter. I have her number. I think I am going to call her today and see if she wants to go and get a drink one night. Lets see what happens.

Ok, not sure this is appropriate on this thread.

But have anyone tried fb dating? I just signed up for Zoosk within the FB environment.

This could potentially be a goldmine for digging up nubile / inexperienced young SBs.

[HollywoodGuy]

Met a moderately attractive (with a nice body) white MILF on SD4ME for dinner. She refused any cash payment saying that would be prostitution. $.7 for the dinner. We then went for a romantic walk in the park which led to a park bench where we spent the next hour groping like teenagers by the light of the moon. She suggested her coming to my place for the second date for a sleepover.

She is not looking for any romantic entanglements. Only a guy that can help get her over her proclaimed shyness. Like when I was rubbing her pussy she wouldn't let me look into her eyes and kept forcing me to makeout instead. A common theme I have seen over the years is younger girls looking to gain sexual experience (hence the older guy selection). Even though I regularly date much younger girls, she said I was the oldest guy she had ever dated.

Not totally my type physically, but she had a sweet personality and was very interested in persuing her sex fantasies and desires. It's our job to help these girls achieve their highest possible sexual potential. They should actually be paying us.

[HollywoodGuy]

Hollywood has inspired me. So let me see, maybe I'm underestimating the fun I'm having.

Thanks. After a slightly rocky start I appreciate being a trusted member of this thread. And all those unattractive girls. You know, the spinners with the small boobs and tiny butts. Just send them over here.

[BigTigger]

Hollywood has inspired me. So let me see, maybe I'm underestimating the fun I'm having.

NSA / Bootycall Group.

(Maryland)

- Thick 28 year old AA, with own place, career, etc. $200 per month. Met on SA Seeing her 2 to 3 times a month. #FreakyDentalAssitant.

- Thick big body AA 37 year old (H-Boobs. Big shapely butt. Almost no fat on her at all). Met on AM, meeting once a month. No cost #MsBigBody.

(Virginia)

-MsOxyMoron. $400 per month, seeing her once a week. I'm still paying for hotels, but found a 3 star for $88

-FreakyLatina. Thick Latina, met on AM. We meet Once a month. No cost.

Potential Girlfriend Group (agreed gift amounts)

MsSuccessful. We stopped seeing each other. She's married and her situation just changed too much for us to be a good fit. (no cost)

Druggie College SB. Spinner, with great face, we are just not a good match. ($700 per month)

-South Carolina 24 Year AA, nice legs, big boobs, little extra around the waist. She's moving here in the fall. She will have her own place and be a full time student. We are meeting in a few weeks. ($750 per month)

-Baltimore 21 year old AA college cutie. Just started emailing, have not met yet.

-DC 21 year old AA, works and goes to school in accounting field. Only exchanging emails so far.

Long Distance Group.

-Atlanta Big Butt friend. Was meeting once a month, now once every 2 months. Cover cost of expenses and $200 cash spending money when she's here.

-Alabama friend. 5'11, big boobs, runner. Met on dating site many years back. I see her once every 3 to 4 months. Expenses only.

-California White Thick 4'11, big boobs and big butt. We've not met, but she's ready to cum visit. Expenses only.

-Delaware 5'7 AA with not butt but big boobs. We were meeting once a month, but now it's very sporadic. $60-100 when we meet.

-Delaware 5'4 AA with big butt and big boobs. She has a butt that's even distracting to women. We were meeting once a month, but now it's very sporadic. $60-100 when we meet.

-Tidewater area Virgina, very pretty AA. 44 years old, nice boobs. Absolutely flat as ironing board butt. Meeting once a month. Met on AM. No cost.

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Currently on the hook for $400 with MsOxyMoron, plus $360 in hotel bills.

Everyone else is pay as you go or we have not sealed the deal on the arrangement yet.

I have a big boobs or big butt fetish. Gotta have one or the other or be really cute/pretty.

I'm trying to stay under a total monthly budget of $1500

BigTigg
"I'd rather have a 6 three times than a 10 once"

[BigTigger]

LOL, such a terrible life I lead.

In the end I was being too judgmental about her showing up high, wasn't understanding enough of the fact that she was tired, I need to understand that she doesn't want to be too passionate because she does not want to get attached AND she was expecting me to give her the entire agreed upon monthly amount at the first meeting. REALLY! So it's all my fault! We've exchanged texts and I can keep her around for a sporadic every now and then. But she's out of the running to be my #1 sb.

By the way, my AM finds are working out pretty well. 2 AA thick chicks. Both pretty much just want a good screw without attachment.

I have another SA find who's very thick, she is cute, has a great personality, her own place, car, etc. Originally discussed a monthly amount, but I was able to get her to agree to a per visit fee as I'm not willing to bring her in the #1 spot either. The sex is great, don't ask me why I don't just chill with her an call it a day. But she will a better long term friend without commitment with a pay as you go setup.

I got 2 others from SA who I'm working on. I'm hoping one of these will make it into the #1 spot. Both have potential are very good looking, under 23 years old. SA has been very profitable this time around. I'm not quite up to Hollywood's harem, but it's keeping me busy.

[Revvo]

The Sugar Bowl Gives And The Sugar Bowl Takes Away.

It has been quite a week. I am going to have to slow down my pace. But I must admit overall I feel energized.

So the week started off with a shock.

REVVOATF: This was bad. Real bad. Things had been going very well. And all of a sudden she up and quit on me. This was a shock! Things were going so well. It was almost erie how well. We really were very well matched. She is 39 knew her way around and did not cause any problems. She was sexy beautiful and fun, and exciting. She had a life and wanted to live it. But she did have a child and wanted to meet on weekends when she could drop her child off at her moms. I could only meet on weekdays when I was in her town. This caused a hardship for her. And she told me she could not do it anymore. She is hurting for money and was giving up the allowance I was giving her. She has either found another SD or she is really comiitted to doing what she wants. I have repeatedly checked her for lies and have found not one inconsistency. This really sucks. I am suprised at how much this affected me. But I must say she has way outdistanced all other babies I have been with. The only other alternative is REVVOSB1, which my ATF beats her but it is closer. Oh well I am getting over it. But it aint fun.

REVVOSB1: My little fortune cookie is going strong. Very different person. Mellow and quite. But quite passionate in the FC. She is willing to do anything I can think of so far. No drama. No bullshit. She is very accommodating and affectionate. She is very cool. But I will say she is not at exciting and fun as my ATF was. She is absolutely beautiful. Dresses real classy and never wears underwear when she is wearing a skirt or dress. Its always nice to be able to sneak a little feel under her dress when we are out. So sexy.

REVVOPOT1: Very nice latina 20YO 8 head, 7 body, and 8 personality. Sweet as can be. Very willing to follow my lead. She is self sufficient and is going to start college in a few weeks. She is also getting her own apartment so she will be able to host soon. We have not visited the FC yet. But we are close. She was very willing. We did some serious making out but no FC. When we left she texted me 10 minutes later wanting to talk about planning the big day. These young babies you have to really go slow. But since I was cool about everything and she was not feeling any pressure, she came around. So we are set for next week.

REVVOPOT2: This was a big bust. Chick was a solid 10 but had a bad case of GPS, even after she agreed to $$. She even wanted to charge me to meet. So we ended it.

REVVOPOT3: This one was a very strong college student Eastern Indian. 23YO 9 head. 9 body. 4 attitude. She had an even worse case of GPS. If you do not get this money thing out of the way up front. It can really bite you wasting your time. So she is out of here. We had a long text exchange about value and the sugar bowl. Here is a little of it:

Aghamora: I've decided I would only meet up with you for 500 bucks 8:37 PM.

Me: Is that 500 just to meet? 8:37 PM.

Aghamora: Ok I am just going to be honest with you. I am attracted to you, I am interested, but I am also looking for money for school. 8:41 PM.

Me: Honesty is good. Lets be honest. I am attracted to you and I am very interested. And this is a sugar daddy dating site so money is a part of it. 8:44 PM.

Me:. So you want 500 just to meet? 8:45 PM.

Aghamora: Yes 8:47 PM.

Me: Well sweetie I cannot do that. And I do want to meet you. But I never pay someone to meet them. You are very attractive and interesting and I can help you out but. 8:50 PM.

Me:. I have met many beautiful women on here and on my own and I never paid anyone money to meet. 8:50 PM.

Me: Ok sweetie. It was very nice meeting you. I enjoyed chatting with you. Please let me know if you change your mind. .9:32 PM.

Aghamora: sorry I am not changing my mind. I have only been with 2 guys my whole life, I'm foreign, I'm sexy and this is the first time I'm doing this. I am definitely not changing my mind. If you change your mind let me know. 3:33 PM.

Me: Sweetie. I would never ask you to do something you do not want to do. But I think you should know a few things. I have had several sugar babies they were all very beautiful and some went on to be long term. 4:18 PM.

Me:. I have friends that have dated many SB's. And I have never paid for someone to just meet me. And the most I have ever paid for a visit is 200 and that is for everything. Yes your are cute and foreign. But for example. 4:20 PM.

Me:. My last SB was Asian, beautiful and she was 25 and had an Ivy League education. And we adored each other and truly had a great time together. Good luck with your search. .4:22 PM.

Aghamora: goodluck to you too. It was great talking to you 5:00 PM.

Aghamora: and I am aerospace engineering major by the way. 200 for everything that is crazyy and cheap, but I guess we are just not for each other. 5:49 PM.

Me: Aghamora. I understnad how you feel. This is a market just like anything else. You are educated so you understand there is supply and there is demand. For every man on the SD site there are 20 women. 6:12 PM.

REVVOPOT4: This is a sweet little 20 yo white baby 8 head. 8 body. 7 attitude. At first had a little attitude but she came around kind of quickly. She is very responsive and sexy. We are still working on schedules but not been able to meet yet. But she seems very willing and wants to meet. Works as a server at night. So it is hard to find a good time to meet.

Much more to write not much time right now. Will come up with an update soon.

Be careful out there,

Revvo

[BigTigger]

So you banged her for a few bucks and on to the next one. Damn you got a tough life. Every reject just puts you one step closer to the next ATF. But you already know that.

LOL, such a terrible life I lead.

[HollywoodGuy]

Ok, not sure this is appropriate on this thread.

But have anyone tried fb dating? I just signed up for Zoosk within the FB environment.

This could potentially be a goldmine for digging up nubile / inexperienced young SBs.

Never tried it. Let us know how it's going

[Member #5570]

Ok, not sure this is appropriate on this thread.

But have anyone tried fb dating? I just signed up for Zoosk within the FB environment.

This could potentially be a goldmine for digging up nubile / inexperienced young SBs.