"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**F Scott** · 01-10-12 20:45

Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]

During email exchange with a pot SB meeting place and time was set. She wanted to talk sugar. If they insist I'll talk about it. But, I don't negotiate. My thoughts are that if they have a specific amount in mind they are not going to be happy with any less. As suggested on this forum, I have the amount I'm willing to part with and I stick with it. Pot SB relates a story that she had a wonderful SD that visited her 4 times a monthat1K per visit. In addition the relationship lasted six months. A 24K part time job. Not bad work if you can find it. LOL I reply that's nice what is the minimum amount of sugar you need to make you happy. Her reply $$$$/visit. My reply, no thank you and I hope you find what you are looking for. Next day writes me and says $$$/visit or whatever you think is fair. I tell her once again no thank you and I hope you find what you are looking for. She writes back a nasty message to me stating she doesn't understand why I won't give her a chance. I'm laughing to myself.

Still looking for my first success.

Cmdr out

Commander,

Just for laughs, ask her if she would consent to a "test drive." My research has shown that such a thing sometimes is attainable, though I have never had the temerity to suggest it myself. What do you have to lose?

If you are rebuffed, you are no worse than where you are now, and if cleared for landing, what a great story you can tell.

Keep up abreast,

Scott

**SubCmdr** · 01-10-12 12:34

During email exchange with a pot SB meeting place and time was set. She wanted to talk sugar. If they insist I'll talk about it. But, I don't negotiate. My thoughts are that if they have a specific amount in mind they are not going to be happy with any less. As suggested on this forum, I have the amount I'm willing to part with and I stick with it. Pot SB relates a story that she had a wonderful SD that visited her 4 times a monthat1K per visit. In addition the relationship lasted six months. A 24K part time job. Not bad work if you can find it. LOL I reply that's nice what is the minimum amount of sugar you need to make you happy. Her reply $$$$/visit. My reply, no thank you and I hope you find what you are looking for. Next day writes me and says $$$/visit or whatever you think is fair. I tell her once again no thank you and I hope you find what you are looking for. She writes back a nasty message to me stating she doesn't understand why I won't give her a chance. I'm laughing to myself.

Still looking for my first success.

Cmdr out

**Literal2** · 01-10-12 11:50

Originally Posted by Coolhand2 [View Original Post]

Lit;

Just remember, the pussy was wondrous. The mind was a bottomless pit where I was afraid to wander. Very afraid. Don't know about every case but that was my experience.

Now that I think of it, when I first started mongering, an 18 YO escort appeared in my hotel room. She said she had been a dancer since she was 15, had been abused and was full of rage. I told her I was sorry for her experiences and that we didn't have to do anything. She said she wanted to proceed but only one pop. I was unfamiliar with the terminology at the time and asked, what does that mean? She said, think about it, you'll figure it out. Eventually she lay down on the bed and I took off her clothes. I lay beside her and caressed her. I licked her pussy a little bit. Eventually I sat up and rubbed her clit with my thumb until she came. Mr Johnson was worried about the situation and there was no vitamin v to reassure him, so I never penetrated her. When she left she said thank you.

**Coolhand2** · 01-09-12 23:49

Originally Posted by Literal2 [View Original Post]

Cool, I've never fucked an 18 YO, at least not since I was 20. I did have a wild time in the VIP with an 18YO stripper but it stopped short of a release for me. She climaxed though. I pursued an 18 and 19 YO last year for weeks and each agreed to meet me but disappeared as the time to meet approached. I stopped trying after that. I concluded they are too unreliable. But you give me new hope. Who knows what the future will bring.

Lit;

Just remember, the pussy was wondrous. The mind was a bottomless pit where I was afraid to wander. Very afraid. Don't know about every case but that was my experience.

**Literal2** · 01-09-12 23:31

Scott, I hope you get all these babes. You are a happy warrior. Keep it up. Keep us posted.

Cool, I've never fucked an 18 YO, at least not since I was 20. I did have a wild time in the VIP with an 18YO stripper but it stopped short of a release for me. She climaxed though. I pursued an 18 and 19 YO last year for weeks and each agreed to meet me but disappeared as the time to meet approached. I stopped trying after that. I concluded they are too unreliable. But you give me new hope. Who knows what the future will bring.

**F Scott** · 01-09-12 13:33

Gentlemen,

Off in half an hour to reacquaint myself with the details of SB5, a gorgeous Brit ex-pat whom I had let slip away in favor of fresh conquests. She informed me not too long ago that she no longer has a roommate, thus can easily accommodate our activities chez elle. Scottie and I are ready, and I have carved out a three hour chunk to make sure all bases are well touched upon. If you have never heard a baby moan to you,"fuck me harder, I'm your sl*t" in a high-class British accent, well, you just haven't lived.

In other news, I have a second overnight, this one out of town, scheduled with my ATF. So excited. And my M&G with my little Latina body double tomorrow afternoon.

Lastly, I hate to bring it up for fear of jinxing things, but my Irish / Cherokee baby has reconnected, and appears contrite and eager to make amends. This I will not let myself get too far out in front of like before, but wouldn't it be nice? "Yes" is the answer.

Life is good,

Scott

**Literal2** · 01-09-12 07:41

Originally Posted by Novaguy2 [View Original Post]

Consider using.

https://www.torproject.org/

For secured surfing. It's free. There is also an app for your phone.

Priceline and other NYOP sites are great, but to get a jump on what will win when you NYOP, check out.

http://www.betterbidding.com/

These sites look very useful. Thanks.

**Literal2** · 01-09-12 07:08

Originally Posted by Coolhand2 [View Original Post]

"I'm fucking a 18 yr old. I'm fucking a 18 yr old."

What a great experience.

**Novaguy2** · 01-09-12 02:16

Consider using https://www.torproject.org/ For secured surfing. It's free. There is also an app for your phone.

Priceline and other NYOP sites are great, but to get a jump on what will win when you NYOP, check out http://www.betterbidding.com/

Originally Posted by Bus Nut [View Original Post]

As for reserving a room, try this approach. Go to the library or use your secure computer and go to Priceline. Com, use "Name Your Own Price" and use the SB's prepaid card. If your deal is accepted the room is prepaid on that card.

**Coolhand2** · 01-09-12 01:12

CSB13 (18yrs. 5'6, C cup pierced, just above spinner body) I have now moved to SA from SD4Me. This fresh face 18 yr old caught my eye. She had been on SA only three weeks. Series of back and forth texts to finally agreed to meet. There was no discussion of sugar on either side. She had one M&G since being on SA and said the guy was a "creep" I was the second. She said she lived with her Mother and had no car so I was going to have to pick her up. Procured a FC fairly close to where she lived. She wanted me to pick her up in the parking lot of the apartment complex. Turns out it was a series of complexes so it was a game of "Find the Pea." Finally make contact and she jumps in. For a second I thought I was looking at my neighbors daughter.

The essence of the girl next door look except for a coupe of facial piercings, which she proceeded to take out as soon as she got in. There must have been a look on my face because she reached over and hugged me and said "everything was cool." The drive to the FC took about ten minutes and the small talk that took place can best be described as "bubble gum." By the time we got to the FC I was wondering if I had made a mistake. What was obvious was there was no intellectual connection at all. None, not a bit. I got worried and asked to see her I'd. She was 18, and closer to 18 than 19. At that point she started to undress and to undress me. Then she proceeded to lick and nibble on little "C" and that conversation did make a connection. Now we are both naked and she demonstrates top tier oral skills. At this point I decide that having a intellectual connection was overrated. Now we're naked on the bed and I dive straight between her thighs. I don't know when the last time was you eat some teenage pussy but for me it's been decades. Just to sweet. Climbed on top and had a wonderful two hours.

The thing is I can't tell you how good it was because all that kept going through my mind was "I'm fucking a 18 yr old. I'm fucking a 18 yr old." I know she came because my thighs were coated with her cum, but for the life of me all I could think was "I'm fucking a 18 yr old." Finished, dressed, placed sugar in her purse and we headed back. On the way back my concerns about the importance of a intellectual connection returned. Next day get text complaining about the amount of sugar and that I had fucked her pussy so raw she was afraid her boyfriend would be able to tell. (I smiled) Her expectations reflected significant GPS so I declined a subsequent meet.

Two days later received a text significantly reducing the sugar to my max SB amount. I agreed (just one more time) but then she wanted to restrict the amount of time so as to try to reduce the damage to her pussy. I declined saying I would only accept the restrictions of last time which were no restrictions. I held my breath during the ride to the FC and tried to focus on what was to come but it was tough. I wish I could tell you more about her fucking skills but the same thing happened."I'm fucking a 18 yr old. I'm fucking a 18 yr old." On the ride back and I was able to pick out of the "bubble gum" torrent boyfriend issues (he can't support us) and a previous BF being released from custody. I made the decision at this point that this would be it. I noticed later she had canceled her profile on SA.

A month after this she contacts me, swears she's rid herself of BF's and wants to see me. Little head takes over and I agree. Pick her up, same intellectual disconnect is there but fun commences when we arrive at FC. I can now report that the pussy was super tight and super wet and extremely responsive. I haven't seen her again (my choice) but it is a wonderful memory.

**Literal2** · 01-08-12 07:19

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

I have started to email with that Latina spinner that used to work for me. Now before you attack, here is my plan: I will rely on the anonymity of the SA site and the internet in general (remember I do not use my real name, or even one close to my real name, on the site and obviously will not send her any photo that shows my face) to flirt with her for a while, with the goal of getting her to send me some naked pictures of herself, which I can then use for all sorts of fantasy games. If all I get is dirty talk,that may just suffice. The game is already afoot, and I must say I am finding it extremely enjoyable. The only problem for me is that it has once again planted the idea in my head of fucking hot Latina spinners, so I am simultaneously pursuing another one, a body double if you will, with whom I have plans to meet on Monday for coffee. She has already indicated that if things go well, we could easily repair to her apartment for some hot yoga instruction. What a great world this is, no?

I like that game. There's something about anonymously seducing a girl you know that's exciting. Like you were feeling up your neighbor's wife in a dark theater. Her body responds to your touch but she doesn't even know it is you. Sex is like electricity, it runs through everybody all the time. When you seduce a girl anonymously, or through a fictional identity, you strip the insulation off the power cord.

You are plenty smart enough so don't let me lead you into something you will regret. Your approach to your former subordinate is partly fantasy anyway. Watch out. Why not extend your effort with the girl you truly and secretly lust for? Get her to meet you someplace it's hard to see your features clearly. Wear a simple disguise. Glasses, hat. Speak as little as possible, using a fake accent. Explain for security you can only spend a few minutes with her in public. Have a prepared fucking chamber nearby. Say you love a romantic encounter. Slip her a key and ask her to precede you, turn out all lights and wait for you in bed. Tell her to help herself to the open bottle of champagne in the ice bucket and pour you a glass. Mention there is a small gift for her on the bedside table but not to open it. Give her 15 minutes, then quietly enter the room using another key. Turn on the ipod you left hooked up to some speakers near the door. Remove your clothes in the dark, creep into bed beside her and fuck her violently, making sure she cums at least twice. While she's recovering from her ecstasy, or maybe just using the bathroom, quietly put your clothes back on and leave. Be sure to pick up the ipod. Don't worry about the speakers, she'll never take them. You won't have much time so I suggest you chug the glass of champagne on your way out. This should enhance the effect.

See, it's all planned. All you have to do is figure out what music to load in the ipod and what's in the gift box.

Please report back to the group when you're done. Of course, please continue writing up all your other excellent adventures as well.

**F Scott** · 01-07-12 18:56

Originally Posted by Literal2 [View Original Post]

The only thing I would add is that when you are first trying to make contact, I found it helped me to show I wasn't a robo-mailer by using some language from her profile. Once she responds, my experience is just as Scott and Cool say.

Right on. It doesn't have to be much, but some inclusion that shows you read their text. I found that the more I said in the initial contact, the lower my response rate was. Three or four well-crafted sentences to start out with, and then on the second contact I allow myself a little more room to stretch out. The seduction has begun by this point, and you need to have your wits about you.

On another topic, I have started to email with that Latina spinner that used to work for me. Now before you attack, here is my plan: I will rely on the anonymity of the SA site and the internet in general (remember I do not use my real name, or even one close to my real name, on the site and obviously will not send her any photo that shows my face) to flirt with her for a while, with the goal of getting her to send me some naked pictures of herself, which I can then use for all sorts of fantasy games. If all I get is dirty talk,that may just suffice. The game is already afoot, and I must say I am finding it extremely enjoyable. The only problem for me is that it has once again planted the idea in my head of fucking hot Latina spinners, so I am simultaneously pursuing another one, a body double if you will, with whom I have plans to meet on Monday for coffee. She has already indicated that if things go well, we could easily repair to her apartment for some hot yoga instruction. What a great world this is, no?

Keep up the good work, and keep on posting.

Scott

**Literal2** · 01-07-12 18:21

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

Bondo,

My experience with what a baby writes on her profile page is that this is her "ideal" situation, the "Prince Charming" scenario, and while you can't just ignore it, I have always proceeded with the assumption that the most important first goal is to get a reply, and not to make sure that their description matches me to a tee. Once you engage in dialogue, you have a chance to plead your case, so to speak, and the seduction begins.

A very hot baby that I successfully bedded told me something that I always think of when communicating with these little fish: "A man falls in love with through his eyes, a woman falls in love through her ears." Something like that; it sounded much better the way she said it, actually, but the point I think she was trying to make is that we men can never forget that the primary channel of communication preferred by these babies is vocal.

Just hitting the NSA ones is tempting, but I have not found them any easier to bed than the "Prince Charming" ones; you still got to talk to them and work your game that way.

Good luck, and don't forget to write,

Scott

This is good advice. The only thing I would add is that when you are first trying to make contact, I found it helped me to show I wasn't a robo-mailer by using some language from her profile. Once she responds, my experience is just as Scott and Cool say.

**Literal2** · 01-07-12 18:16

Originally Posted by Coolhand2 [View Original Post]

No Lit you didn't miss it. I'm going to try andget it out today. I have four I need to report on. Life is good.

Four nice fish in the pan. Sounds pretty tasty.

**Coolhand2** · 01-07-12 16:48

Originally Posted by Bondo500 [View Original Post]

So 95% of the profiles on SA write about travel and fun and on and on. But looks like the experience here is the travelis to the FC to pound their brains out. So do you avoid all the syrup and go for the NSA ones (not many) or is it all just a "front"?

Bondo I don't care what they say in their profile unless it specifically says "no sex." I'm not trying to talk anyone in to having sex if they don't want to. If they've decide to give it up, I just want to talk them in to giving it to me. I do pay close attention to what the say in our direct commmunication. To me, that's what counts.

Coolhand