Massage Parlor Reports

[Justforme]

Welcome to the club, the "next time" club. This has ruined the game for me her to the point I do not visit very often. I would run once a week or two but I have been disappointed too many times and do not like the feeling. Any good that comes out, I still leave with that bad taste.

I know some might say the ladies need to protect themselves but we also need to protect ourselves. The one con these ladies have is trying to make us think it is OK to squeeze with the hands but not OK to squeeze with the sugar walls. FYI, same thing in the eyes of the law. The hand shake can send them to jail as well.

This con is the game they play in this area because we allow it. At least you did nt give in too the $ and I will not say anything negative if you gave her what you thought the massage was worth the tip, I support that thinking.

The next time should not work for them; them last time I heard it was at Green and I told them next time when they asked for the TIP.

Good luck and hopefully this place will get back to business as it was in 2003 and bring back a more diverse bunch including asian youth and latins.

Thanks for your time.

. Now after I completed and as she cleans me up she then proceeds to tell me that she doesn't know me well but "next time" she will treat me better and give me more. Total 180 on me. I think she got stupid for a sec since she spent 5 mins telling me the opposite.

Loader

[Bunker Buster]

I was graciously given a place to check by another fellow hobbiest. His experiance was not at all like mine. The AMP is locatede in falls church 6400 seven corners pl. (Evergreen Wellness). I went in with high hopes and left dismayed. .80 was the hour fee and I gladly paid. The TS was wonderful, the massage was wonderful, the precursor to the flip was wonderful. Upon flipping, the first words out my provider's mouth. Her name is Sara- was "how much money do you have?" Now in the decade that I have played this game I have never been asked that question. It set the tone for the rest of the session. Now I asked what was on the menu and she replied "how much money do you have?" I was going to ask the question again but she proceeded to play with me and my little brain accidentaly spoke up and told $. Granted I came prepared for the full menu. As I always do- but I rarely partake in. She then proceeds with a standard nova how do you do and that was it. Before I was completed she tells me other places like Peach closed because they offer more and she tells me that she doesn't do it. Now after I completed and as she cleans me up she then proceeds to tell me that she doesn't know me well but "next time" she will treat me better and give me more. Total 180 on me. I think she got stupid for a sec since she spent 5 mins telling me the opposite. I think she messed up her game. Anyways, she asks for the tip and I only give. 6 to her. I would have only given. 4 because the attitude but she went a little bit above, not by much. She gets angry and demands more. All in all, I ended up almost taking. 2 away because she is pissing me off from rushing the flip, demanding more money, to the bs line of I don't do it and 5 mins later saying next time I do more. So I stand my ground to the pushy almost forceful provider and threaten to take more money away and talking to mamasan. She backed down and took my original gracious offer of. 6 and said goodbye. So out of pocket. 8 for an hr, .6 finish for a total of $.4. As always, YMMV and as a lesson to newbies,

1) Intel is intel. Be thankful for whatever you get. Some fellow monger is trying to help you out. Even though he can't promise you the same, be thankful.

2) Stand your ground. Don't fall shy to a pushy provider. If they don't deliver on your agreement or they rush you out and then demand more money, don't pay extra. You may feel bad at first but when you walk out, you will be happier with each step. If you were in a restaurant and you waiter didn't bring you your beer, and you food was cold, and he charged for the beer and he wanted more tip for waiting on you, would you give him extra tip? Pay the minimum and walk out. If you need to, ask for the mamasan.

3) YMMV is true.

Be safe and happy mongering,

Loader

I was thinking to say that you should have stood your ground even more, but under the circumstances, you held on and didn't get completely abused, and it's easy for someone who wasn't in that situation to say what he "would" have done.

Having been there, I know there are ten things going through your mind when getting the face-to-face hard sell: did she do something special, did she do extra work on a sore spot, do I want to come back, did the going rate increase and I didn't notice, am I confused about something, did I give her reason to expect more, etc.

In the end, all you can do is hold the line as well as possible, get out, warn others, and don't go back.

[Loader401]

I was graciously given a place to check by another fellow hobbiest. His experiance was not at all like mine. The AMP is locatede in falls church 6400 seven corners pl. (Evergreen Wellness). I went in with high hopes and left dismayed. .80 was the hour fee and I gladly paid. The TS was wonderful, the massage was wonderful, the precursor to the flip was wonderful. Upon flipping, the first words out my provider's mouth.her name is Sara- was "how much money do you have?" Now in the decade that I have played this game I have never been asked that question. It set the tone for the rest of the session. Now I asked what was on the menu and she replied "how much money do you have?" I was going to ask the question again but she proceeded to play with me and my little brain accidentaly spoke up and told $. Granted I came prepared for the full menu. As I always do- but I rarely partake in. She then proceeds with a standard nova how do you do and that was it. Before I was completed she tells me other places like Peach closed because they offer more and she tells me that she doesn't do it. Now after I completed and as she cleans me up she then proceeds to tell me that she doesn't know me well but "next time" she will treat me better and give me more. Total 180 on me. I think she got stupid for a sec since she spent 5 mins telling me the opposite. I think she messed up her game. Anyways, she asks for the tip and I only give. 6 to her. I would have only given. 4 because the attitude but she went a little bit above, not by much. She gets angry and demands more. All in all, I ended up almost taking. 2 away because she is pissing me off from rushing the flip, demanding more money, to the bs line of I don't do it and 5 mins later saying next time I do more. So I stand my ground to the pushy almost forceful provider and threaten to take more money away and talking to mamasan. She backed down and took my original gracious offer of. 6 and said goodbye. So out of pocket. 8 for an hr, .6 finish for a total of $.4. As always, YMMV and as a lesson to newbies,

1) Intel is intel. Be thankful for whatever you get. Some fellow monger is trying to help you out. Even though he can't promise you the same, be thankful.

2) Stand your ground. Don't fall shy to a pushy provider. If they don't deliver on your agreement or they rush you out and then demand more money, don't pay extra. You may feel bad at first but when you walk out, you will be happier with each step. If you were in a restaurant and you waiter didn't bring you your beer, and you food was cold, and he charged for the beer and he wanted more tip for waiting on you, would you give him extra tip? Pay the minimum and walk out. If you need to, ask for the mamasan.

3) YMMV is true.

Be safe and happy mongering,

Loader

[Max Beelyun]

I went to the place across from Outback, near Thai Luang restaurant, and had a really nice massage by Mona. She's playful and gives a nice massage. Everything standard. I will go back. Yes, I am being more circumspect than usual. No reason other than the feeling I should do so.

[Black Coffee]

After a quiet winter, a trip thru FFX LE's website today shows approximately 12 citations handed out in the past 10 days for "no massage license". Local ladies and some visiting from Flushing. Keep your radar on. BC

[Justforme]

Does anyone know what became the the supposed head of Green. Have not heard anything since the bust and was wondering if she / they are out and if she recerculated.

Also, another former favorite now gone were the Thais doing Nuru. Had it good with one and great with another but they have not resurfaced. I received a call from the little one shortly after they closed shop but have not heard since.

Just seeing if anyone has any info. Not just for the little head but also because these were three good ladies who I enjoy their company, not just in the physical.

Thanks

[Mustang946]

Yesterday after an morning medical appointment and prior to heading to work, I thought I would engage in some much needed (and long overdue) stress reduction. I wanted to check out the Apple as previously reported upon. I called with no response. I had read here about the licensing issue but since I was just a few minutes away, I went there to check it out. The location in the building is a bit confusing but following previous posts, I found it. No answer at the door. The hand lettered sign mentioned previously has been replaced with a proper looking sign. I will return in a week or so.

Despite some misgivings due to previous posts, I went to an old prior favorite N. A former ATF, T*** was acting as the manager today as L*** had a problem with a leaking roof due to the rain and was overseeing repairs. I was hoping that T*** would be my therapist as I have many pleasant experiences with her in the past. She has some reviews on here lately that suggested she was not really in to it anymore. Since she was the manager today she couldn't take care of me but would give me a TS while the other girl was getting ready as I arrived just as they opened. The TS was outstanding with the water hot as I like it. Unfortunately, the sauna is broken with no estimated time of repair. Following the outstanding TS, I was escorted back to the room and met Y***. I have visited many times and have not seen her before. She said she had been there for only a month. She is a bit older, decent figure, but has smoker's breath. The massage started out OK but after 5 minutes, she told me to flip. I looked at her like,"You've got to be kidding me!" She took that as a sign to continue and started a back walk which I usually like. However her feet were like ice cubes so I asked her to stop. NO roaming whatsover allowed as she said she was shy. I flipped and received the remainder of the treatment. At most places, the therapists help you dress which I kind of like. Not the case today. She didn't even seem to suspect plus she asked for the tip upfront. I have never had that asked of me at this place before.

I may return to N* but only if T*** is avail or one of the others that I have had a great experience with in the past.

[Lovejugs]

Lovejugs,

I'm just trying to have a good time and stay safe. You smirk like throwing a guy to the wolves is fun for you. What ever dude!

AJ,

20 was a rough estimate and I was worked up from all the fire I got from my post. I didn't know humor / stories posting didn't count, sorry.

Any one else on this board want to guide me to a good AMP that won't land me in heap of at, your feed back will be greatly appreciated!

If not I'll tap my funds for Jessie yum yum or one of the platinumcompanionsdc girls and call it a loss worth taking.

Thanks for the one decent SM who PM'd me with useful intel!

I'll let why'all know how my trip goes, that is if I don't get an unexpected visit from my uncle, no thanks to the helpful "fellow" Mongers that posted replies here!

Cheers

Last I checked none of us are wolves. The first thing I said is I am not attacking you. And honestly I have no axe to grind. I was talking to Roman about the subject in general pertaining to his comments. You are way too emotional and your style of post comes off as demanding information. My post stands and I my opinions are just that. So, I expect a post in the next few weeks? Pocket book or not you should be able to afford one visit.

Lovejugs

[Re Pete]

Took my first visit to a VA parlor. I used to be a regular in DC many years ago, but those places are long closed. And unfortunately those days are forever gone.

Went to a place in Tysons which was recommended by another poster. I still don't know what to expect and negotiate, so it was a little awkward. But it was ok, and will get better with time.

[Vamassage Fan]

Took a break one afternoon recently and visited "SEXY Lexi". She's legit, albeit somewhat new to the hobby, had a good time, little pricey for the 1st visit level of service, but hot body and friendly personality. Seniors with hsitory can pm for details.

http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/le...ial-23/4410462

http://amagicaltouch.yolasite.com/

[Member #4913]

[QUOTE=Roamin Roman; 1153448]There's an old adage that says,"The true character of a person comes out when confronted with adversity or difficulty." I won't speak for other members of this forum, CD, but you don't seem to take constructive crticism very well. And, with regard to my reply, you took offense too quickly.

In my last post I apologized to AJ, maybe I should have to you as well. Most of my gruff was directed to luvjugs for his comments.

I've cooled down. I was just looking to be safe and got caught off guard by the hazing I received. Maybe I should have asked what places to avoid. I've read post back several pages, but with Leo's activities, daily safety arise.

Anyhoo. Thanks

[Roamin Roman]

To the 2 sm's that replied to my post / inquiry.

Thanks for nothin!

There's an old adage that says,"The true character of a person comes out when confronted with adversity or difficulty." I won't speak for other members of this forum, CD, but you don't seem to take constructive crticism very well. And, with regard to my reply, you took offense too quickly.

As I said in my post, perhaps you have Been generous with your intel via PMs. I can't verify that, one way or the other, but I allowed for that possibility. But I also expressed skepticism with regard to the paucity of intel or recon you've provided in the open forum. Even your early posts don't have a lot of meat to them. Yes, yes, I know you said that there was a reason for your reticence. But, even in that regard, one can still provide a goodly amount of information without identifying the exact location or name of the provider nor the level of service obtained. Your posts largely lack even that.

And, in that same vein, you're exercising a double-standard. You Want the option of being discreet about what you post, yet you fault us When we want to exercise that same level of caution when someone we do not know just waltzes in and asks for our best recommendation. It doesn't matter whether we provide that to you in the open forum or via PM, we do not know you well enough to satisfy our Comfort level[/U]. Like you, we don't want to jeopardize our Sources and resources. It's nothing personal; it's simply good sense and safe practices.

Also, you say "I don't live the hobbie daily, it's just a hobby for me every so often." That's fine. Whatever style and comfort level you prefer. But, if that's the case, you shouldn't be criticizing those of us who have a different level of involvement in this hobby and wish to take measures to protect that. Likewise, if this hobby is just an "every so often" thing for you, then it's really not fair for you to expect others to provide their very best info to you. Basically, you get out of this hobby and this forum what you put into it.

As for your wallet, believe it or not, it's probably a lot like my wallet and the wallets of most other members of this forum. That is, we obtain our intel, especially our best Intel, via the expenditure of the contents of our wallets, as well as the expenditure of our time. We all work hard for our money, and we all get the same number of hours in a day. We've all left AMPs unsatisfied and a little poorer, so you don't have any exclusive claim to that status. But, giving the impression that our wallets and our time are somehow less valuable than yours is bad form.

With regard to LEO, we all Have to deal with him. The key is to find suitable workarounds, rather than retreating to the insular world of PMs. After all, if the Senior Members here supplied their intel via PMs and didn't post much of value to the open forum, the open forum wouldn't be of much interest or value, would it? Especially for the new members, who have very little to start off with but in some instances show their moxie and mettle by going out and actually gaining intel and sharing it.

Now, even though you called me an A*H* in the open forum, in spite of the civil tone of my initial and follow-up replies to you, I'm man enough to deal with it and not let it further influence my opinion of you. Besides, I still have raging woody from doing' the Alpha Male thing earlier. I'm willing, and I'm reasonably certain the other Senior Members on this forum are as well, to share some of my second-tier or third-tier information with you. After all, this hobby isn't an everyday thing for you, so a less-than-best recommendation should suffice, right?

So, if you want to send me a PM, I'll be glad to give you a couple recommendations on where to visit. They won't be my top-shelf places, but you can get a decent service for your money and you won't have to buy a jar of vaseline afterwards. I'll do this, even though your tone was out of line, because I realize that emotions sometimes get the better of people. And, I'm betting that, if you PM the other Seniors and Alpha Males who called you out, they'll find a couple places for you to check out, as well. How can you lose with an offer like that?

R:R

[Member #4913]

Your welcome. Don't mention it.

Lovejugs

Lovejugs,

I'm just trying to have a good time and stay safe. You smirk like throwing a guy to the wolves is fun for you. What ever dude!

AJ,

20 was a rough estimate and I was worked up from all the fire I got from my post. I didn't know humor / stories posting didn't count, sorry.

Any one else on this board want to guide me to a good AMP that won't land me in heap of at, your feed back will be greatly appreciated!

If not I'll tap my funds for Jessie yum yum or one of the platinumcompanionsdc girls and call it a loss worth taking.

Thanks for the one decent SM who PM'd me with useful intel!

I'll let why'all know how my trip goes, that is if I don't get an unexpected visit from my uncle, no thanks to the helpful "fellow" Mongers that posted replies here!

Cheers

[Aman Tuleev]

Went to Papaya at late evening. It was closed, phone did not respond. Went down street to corthouse road.

Met Yo-Yo, very nice korean girl, which is in late 3X, with good body and big naturals, heavy robed. She gave me a tovel with large gap, and we come to a shower room. TS was about good, water was about cold, not really touched sensitive areas. Back to room, shivering, because it was really cold. She put me to a table, and wrapped into towel, put on the top hot towels, and wrapped into another towel. I was feeling like a mummy, while she was walking on me. About good massage then. Asked what do I want, little non-aggressive upsell, but finally agreed on standard price, very good standard finish. Chat some time lying on the table and cuddling each other. Very friendly, very good english. Tipped her little higher than we agreed. All adventure take about 70-75 minutes. Definitely will repeat.

Stay safe,

Aman

[A John]

I`ll just say that in " humor / stories section " it does nothing for your poste count so " last 20 post or so " = nothing for Intel " A*H*'s ". Do`nt know how your comming up with 20.

To the 2 sm's that replied to my post / inquiry. I could go into detail about some of you having your last 20 post or so being in the humor / stories section making jokes about tazering women in the park, but it is there for anyone to read.