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  1. #8811

    Say no to premium baby

    Boner Bros did it. So Jasmin and Baby Cupid had rebranded with sensible rate. I know who they are. Lani starting 1/19 also dropped to sensible rate after my post. Don't nobody say we can't make a difference. We must continue to vote against high tariff on Kpussy. Plenty of good Kgirls at fair rate.

    I have mixed feelings about premium girls. I just want to bang new hot girls, but random rate hike with rebrand / fake pics starting to make me feel like a fool. And Lila / Choco was not any prettier than many $$$ girls.

    Bosses, I may still bite if you use real pics, can blur the face or eyes if girls worry about privacy. My highest expenditure is on Kgirls. Just be honest about HYA and I will be your ATM. I will still give all my fun money to some young Kgirls even if pics of premium girls do not attract me. I am never stop never stopping.

    Make Asians Great Again, sincerely yours.

    Quote Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty  [View Original Post]
    ...
    If you know what's right, and you don't speak up, you saying your rights don't matter. I don't like gatekeeping, MILFs, rebrands so I spoke up. Premium girls may be targeted soon. These are what we can do:

    1. Don't see girls with abnormal rate.

    2. Post review quickly if you see her and not happy. Private groups ain't helping. All girls know "new" girl will bait many mongers. Cause FOMO. Only you can prevent Boner from throwing away his money.

    3. Review normal rate girls (don't gate keep) so mongers can spread the love.

    4. At some point, we should start walking out on premium girls, rebrands, and MILFs if we are not happy with who's behind the door. Walking out and not sharing only you hurt you and doesn't help anyone else.

    Obviously you don't want to walk out a lot. That's why sharing intel in public forum is key...

  2. #8810
    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    My friends keep telling me about Ravi. Newer is better for me. Obviously, not recommended for most guys but glad there are others who appreciate them too. People used to make fun of me for reviewing HYA. After Lizza, I stopped caring. Now things have changed, I'm actually begging MILF lovers to review girls. Because I say in all honestly most guys are better off with MILFs, but I have low intel on them. So I tell MILF lovers they won't like HYA, yet a few still end up seeing HYA anyways because "at least there's intel" with physical descriptions - and they get disappointed of course because he just wants to lay back in bed and do nothing which works okay with MILFs. Can't win. Please review the MILFs.
    Of those girls you mentioned, I saw a few. I'll tell you the age range that I consider HYA, and this may be different for others, for example a 25-year-old guy won't find a 27-year-old woman HYA, but 23-year-old girls could be HYA, now a 55-year-old guy will find a 27-year-old girl HYA. That said, the perspective is different for everyone, for me the classification would be like this:

    20 y /25 y HYA.

    26 y /30 y peak of a woman's age.

    31 y /35 y Pre-MILF.

    36/40 MILF.

    40+ old ladies.

    I like real HYAs, from this list of yours I consider Baby Bora a real HYA and she had everything to surpass my ATF which is Baby Sweet who must already be something like a real 27 y and is no longer a HYA in my classification point. If Baby Bora had the service of Baby Sweet she would be the woman I would marry, perfect body type for me, however she is not prettier than Baby Ravi or Arina, but Baby Bora's body is the one I like the most, natural a little flesh and all pink, like Baby Yoyo, however Baby Yoyo has a little roll on her belly. But in short, the final taste of each one is particular, but there is a context that we can use as a standard and this helps when making choices of which girls to see. There was one or two pre-milfs that I saw and liked because they had features that I like, like very white skin and long black hair. Baby Sweet, my ATF, is my only score, 9. 75, and if she were 5 years younger, she would be an absolute 10. I hope to find one with the body of a Baby Bora and the service of a Baby Sweet. Baby Ravi and Arina are examples of a 9 that already satisfies me because they are truly HYA.

  3. #8809
    Quote Originally Posted by Yths4  [View Original Post]
    Thanks man, I appreciate the advice. I know how it looks but I can never be too careful about my business. At the end of the day we're all strangers from the internet and I just want to minimize the risk of running into the law, getting STIs, and avoiding extortionists. This board has been a great help, but being so inexperienced in the hobby lends to the paranoia, and I know nobody got time to be dealing with that kind of shit.
    Most people are the same as you, whether now or when they started. I've written posts to help people skip unnecessary steps, because you still have other hard steps that you have to do yourself. But it's worth it in my opinion. I will give the same advice Boner gave 2 years ago, to start with Humaniplex. Not that it's easy or anything, but that it's better than all the other alternatives. At first, it will reduce intensive screening by acting as a reference. Later, it will eliminate it. I won't explain any more here since it is all in guides. No point in helping the wrong people do things easy, if it were even possible.

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7115875 Humaniplex guide
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7159069 Humaniplex OC
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7161940 Health and safety

    Imagine a guy uses HX to see an independent or three. Proves he's safe and reliable with network. At that point he might actually like the independents and repeat them nonstop. Or maybe tries the Thai org and uses his recent network to help with screening with less info. No idea by how much but it does. At this point he might be addicted to thai girls, I used to be when they had a flood of HYA with Emily leading the way. Or, maybe he then uses that to screen with korgs. I would say try several because a korg with many existing regulars is going to protect their regulars and girls. You'd want the same once you are in.

    Let's say all goes good, and you screen with another korg as backup or because some roster guy pointed out a girl you liked. Some agencies will network rate you on HX, others won't. Keep at it, and eventually your HX is so good it is screening all by itself. There are even better advanced techniques. Note that HX is good for "both sides". Some flaky white girls screened you for the thai orgs, the thai orgs screened you for the korgs, you see how that is better than any other screening. A good HX network is better. Some people used to say "think of it as 1000 investment" going in with low expectations on HX independents. I actually never had a bad experience, but I was super selective per the guide. But it might be a good mentality anyways starting out.

    By the way, a few OC HYA will rotate to LA soon. I list them out for you since sooner or later you'll see them anyways. No doubt a few HYA from LA will go OC. King Theoden reminds all that the "HYA swap" is not a bad thing, it means your harem is twice as big. Take the win.

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    I know there are others who will do right, and they simply deserve a chance. The only thing to do is help them skip a few unnecessary steps by giving them knowledge, but they have to do other hard parts themselves. I do believe it's easy to help people too much. All they need are the blueprints and examples to follow. The best things are done public or not at all. The best people have what they need now.
    I got some PMs offering tips on corgs in LA, that's nice but no need. I've explained I was curious and in need of a jgirl fix, but I go to Japan more often than LA anyways. Places like MH won't even reply, I assume it's for their safety so no blame to them. As I explained in private, "My post was for several reasons. If I can't get in without help, I just want others to know. I get if they don't want outsiders, maybe it keeps them safe. No blame to them, but nobody should bother trying if that's it. I don't want special treatment. I only want to set an example and lay safe blueprints for others."

    That is why I link to Japan guides. If you happen to be there anyways for another reason, it is safe cheap legal. You just need intel, so read the link. I don't need a single bit of help in Japan, not once in 20 years. I already know where to go. But as I've said, I feel guilty for dying without telling others. I still had to do the rest myself. You know about those kung fu scrolls where you read them and can start doing stuff? I picked up some shabby ones and learned it myself. I wrote down some new scrolls.
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2966012 Japan for jgirls

    Quote Originally Posted by Taliesin92  [View Original Post]
    Dude, I've been having fun with k-girls for 15 to 16 years now and I'm STILL paranoid as fuck about it. Chances are nothing bad will ever happen. But the risk isn't zero. There is always a risk you could get busted by Uncle LEO, or catch some nasty STI, or get blackmailed by some a-hole agency owner (if they have your PII). The risk might be very low, maybe less than 1%. But if it does happen, then for you, it's 100%.
    Fear and caution is normal. But think ahead like chess. Some customers know other customers who know the rest. No one will ever use such an agency again if they are completely unreasonable. Of course, if a guy does something wrong that's different. Among my friends, I've never heard of an agency playing chess the wrong way, just about guys getting banned. I've told before I have had friends banned. I didn't even ask him what happened, his silence was enough. So I consider that settled fairly.

    There are no guarantees, but I used to go to Japan for this very reason. If you follow just one rule (see youtube), it's the safest country for the hobby along with Thailand. There are sex shops above a kaiten sushi or next to a maid cafe. I wasn't even there to play, but for civilian women. Every time I broke up with a girl another civilian woman fell in my lap. Their women are..easy to get along with. In-between I sampled the hundreds of shops there. Even korgs. A friend 20 years ago helped me get into korgs in Japan, and I was one of the first foreigners ever. Or at least the first to post in English about it, my post is still there from 2004 but it was vague. I go into more detail in a retelling.
    https://youtu.be/NeZUOFKOUeI?t=316 Only one safety rule for Japan (15 seconds)
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...rg#post2970535 Korean Zhang Zi Yi

    Businessmen fall asleep drunk on the ground and wake up fine the next day. A friend couldn't book a hotel and slept next to a tree. So follow the one rule and your main danger is cars, bears, tripping while walking, and tsunami.

    For true beginners I always recommend Kira Kira soapland as well as oppai pubs which are dirt cheap. Oppai pubs are 10 times cheaper than strip clubs in the US and you can kiss and suck on tits and the girls flatter and entertain you. B-Tier to S-Tier looks, I usually play with 15 women and 1-2 are S-Tier, a couple A-Tier. Let me just say C-Tier girls know their place in Japan and don't last at an oppai pub because they need regulars. I'm sorry, C-Tier women are good people too, this world is cruel to less attractive women. Also included is an udderly crazy concept shop with pregnant jgirls and breastfeeding I am not joking.
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2976527 Kira Kira open to foreigners
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2976094 Japan extremely safe with just 1 single exception
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2968569 Japan Legal situation
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2974391 AnalKnight strikes gold

  4. #8808

    Paranoid

    Quote Originally Posted by Yths4  [View Original Post]
    Thanks man, I appreciate the advice. I know how it looks but I can never be too careful about my business. At the end of the day we're all strangers from the internet and I just want to minimize the risk of running into the law, getting STIs, and avoiding extortionists. This board has been a great help, but being so inexperienced in the hobby lends to the paranoia, and I know nobody got time to be dealing with that kind of shit.
    Dude, I've been having fun with k-girls for 15 to 16 years now and I'm STILL paranoid as fuck about it. Chances are nothing bad will ever happen. But the risk isn't zero. There is always a risk you could get busted by Uncle LEO, or catch some nasty STI, or get blackmailed by some a-hole agency owner (if they have your PII). The risk might be very low, maybe less than 1%. But if it does happen, then for you, it's 100%.

    So, my well-worn advice is, protect yourself as best you can. But realize that shit happens sometimes. And anyone who isn't prepared to take that risk probably shouldn't engage in this hobby.

  5. #8807
    Quote Originally Posted by JackHolly  [View Original Post]
    You've had an account for almost two years and have, as you said, been lurking and reading, so you should know. Just go to the website of the agency you want to use, text them, and they'll give you instructions to get screened.
    Thanks man, I appreciate the advice. I know how it looks but I can never be too careful about my business. At the end of the day we're all strangers from the internet and I just want to minimize the risk of running into the law, getting STIs, and avoiding extortionists. This board has been a great help, but being so inexperienced in the hobby lends to the paranoia, and I know nobody got time to be dealing with that kind of shit.

  6. #8806
    Quote Originally Posted by Big Zhang Mang  [View Original Post]
    The C-Orgs cater to Chinese incels who couldn't get a date if their life depended on it.
    Corgs cater to rich FOBs and those who don't want to drive far. But they also follow a very different pricing model, they have been doing premium rate girls for a long time and it has big pros and cons. SBC and another korg are experimenting with premium rate girls now, basically reinventing the wheel that corgs have long used and learning from the same mistakes corgs learned 10 years ago. So I'll summarize important points for everyone. First, only superstars can use high premium pricing like 500 and up - exceptional kgirls of a certain caliber of look and service. It is not enough to be good looking I hope that's obvious. Maybe 2% of kgirls, even just 5% of HYA could qualify. Other girls will fail, as SBC has already learned. Second, superstars can only use premium pricing on limited tours / slots such as a few weeks max. Corgs already know this, and korgs are starting to figure out this rule too. It is an absolute rule.

    I'm just telling the truth here to prevent a waste of time. Specifically, even a superstar cannot maintain bookings at a high rate on a long tour. Past a month or two, they would actually make more money at a lower rate. Believe me when I say corgs know how to make money and want to maximize it. This is exactly why a corg will put a superstar cgirl at 800 or 1000 hr, then drop her to 500 or 600 days or weeks later when the richest guys are bored of them. And yes, most rich guys will get bored of them because another superstar will show up. The moment we have two superstars or even a slightly worse good girl, the rich guy goes to the new girl. It's called being the Sultan of a harem. Yes a few rich guys get attached to one girl but that is the exception not the norm. One or two rich guys doesn't cut it, it's less money and they will also get bored of her later too. Korgs won't be able to prove me wrong on this absolute rule, they are welcome to try but I think they already figured out it's true. Jisoo to Gyuri was handled much better than the SBC method, they're improving. What I'm saying here is good for everyone to know, no matter if they are customer or korg or girl.

    It needs to be said that 95% of the time, we need the traditional korg model. Over-doing premium girls will hurt the loyal customers. So pick the right girl, pick the right price, test the girl out first. It should make sense, any guy can see Daisy and even if she wasn't for them they understand why she's premium rate. They see the appeal, they get it. Some other girls, no. I understand the reason for some rebrands to avoid drama, but it makes it harder for other guys to know about her. A few rebrands make sense, but most don't. Rebrands put the very best customers in a bad and uncomfortable spot. They just want to warn their friends, they did nothing wrong and were just trying to give someone money but couldn't at the last moment. What will they tell their friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    Yes and I want to add that corgs rely on exclusive limited-tour pricing. They want you to do 30 minutes instead of 60, but they are also charging more than korgs for exclusivity and convenience. For example, sometimes a girl starts at 500 / hr and then drops to 400 / hr a week later when the rich guys are done with her. And that same girl if she moved to a korg will charge 300-350 but no longer be in SGV where the best corg customers are anyways.

    I have seen jgirls who were 500 / hr in NYC, but when I saw her she was 320 / hr at a korg. It's exactly the same girl, and the service at a korg is literally better even for the same girl. So the pricing difference. But if you are living right next to Miya House and have the money, it just makes sense to drop in and see their best new girl whoever that happens to be. It was never meant for more patient and budget minded guys. The rates make sense when you see it from the business side of it.

    Lastly, look at Jenny in OC who is all-in at 320. She is the only bb inclusive HYA for months. She's literally younger AND better service than many other upcharge girls. But the thing is, she works a super long tour, so she is relying on repeat customers. The lower rate attracts guys who might see her 5 or 10 times, rather than some guys who would pay bb upcharge for her. Once a girl tours for weeks or months, a lower rate makes them more money. There are many guys who "must have a new girl", no matter what. A ton of guys are like this. And that's why higher rates make sense for some girls, even if they aren't as good as Jenny. BTW Allie in SD is all-in 320 and top tier overall. Looks over service.

    For very short tours, a higher rate makes more money. Corgs tend to host girls on very short tours, sometimes only for days. The jgirl I mention hopped from city to city, taking 10 dicks per day at every spot. If it dropped below 10 she changed corgs again. Just how it goes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    Girls change their rate structure at corgs. Note the small gap between hh and hr at korgs. Extra time can be massage (to finish or in-between 2 shot), chat, leave early (ex guy needs 40 or 50), or an actual hour of action (ymmv, just some girls). Korgs focus on "happy no rush hour" and maximizing satisfaction, one motivation is kgirls have longer tours with more repeat opportunity but it's also cultural expectation. Corgs focus on maximizing DPD* so their rate structure favors shorter times like hh. They tend to favor "looks over service" girls with shorter tours. For 95% of korg girls, BB means CIP there's no difference. At corgs, CIP may be charged. Long tours pretty much require the korg model, while short tours favor the corg model. The main complaint jgirls have said about corgs is the food and how busy the work is, but the money is better until they get evicted.

    *DPD 'Dudes' per day
    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    Jgirls at corgs operate a bit differently, even if it's the same girl.
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Angel 99  [View Original Post]
    I saw Baby Ravi, she is the HYA that I think about meeting when I'm going to see a girl, I find it difficult that these 500/600 girls are a HYA superior to Baby Ravi.

    Baby Ravi is a newbie, she doesn't have a script and if you're looking for work you won't find it, but if you're looking for a HYA body in her early 20's, that girl from the UCLA campus in her freshman year is her. I prefer young and hot girls like Baby Ravi, Arina, Baby Ai, Baby Jasmin, girls who are at most 22 years old and have a beautiful body, instead of these super models, there are 25 year old women with a rate of 500/600. For 25 year old women, there is Lime, Baby Sweet, Baby Yui, Minji who have a standard rate and are perfect choices. MILFs over 30 want distance.
    My friends keep telling me about Ravi. Newer is better for me. Obviously, not recommended for most guys but glad there are others who appreciate them too. People used to make fun of me for reviewing HYA. After Lizza, I stopped caring. Now things have changed, I'm actually begging MILF lovers to review girls. Because I say in all honestly most guys are better off with MILFs, but I have low intel on them. So I tell MILF lovers they won't like HYA, yet a few still end up seeing HYA anyways because "at least there's intel" with physical descriptions - and they get disappointed of course because he just wants to lay back in bed and do nothing which works okay with MILFs. Can't win. Please review the MILFs.

    If you want service, best to avoid HYA. I will list the exceptions like Baby Arin, Jenny. I keep hearing about Nali too, I'm sure there are others in LA but I mainly know OC. 95% of HYA do not have MILF service. You will be disappointed if you want service. Please, see a MILF. The tongue is deeper, she's on her knees a long time, she will make you happy.

    I know this is dumb to say but there are too many HYA in OC right now. 12 verified, probably 13. This spreads business too thin. 6 is probably normal. The 12 are: Gyuri, Daisy, Baby Bora (aka Baby Blue), Monet, Minji, Jenny, Tiffany, Hazel, Evian, Baby Moon, Baby Peach (aka Barbie). Including Guitar "if you like Thai" but not if you don't.

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7166627 Jan 17 OC HYA roster

  7. #8805

    Baby Ravi HYA

    I saw Baby Ravi, she is the HYA that I think about meeting when I'm going to see a girl, I find it difficult that these 500/600 girls are a HYA superior to Baby Ravi.

    She's not a super model, she's not that super sensual woman, but she's what a HYA should be, she said she's actually 22 years old and I believe her and I can't even imagine she could be older, she could say she's younger and I would believe her. If you liked Arina you'll like Baby Ravi even more, the same vibe, but Ravi has whiter skin and an even more beautiful body, but Ravi's body has liposuction, you can see the circumcision stitches, but I don't think she would even need it, but the fact that she did it left her body close to perfection, her big natural B breasts are beautiful, the true hourglass body that in DS made me unable to hold it for 2 minutes.

    After reading some writings about her, I decided to schedule an appointment. I got it for the same day. It's a family building that I thought was very baby sweet. Easy parking. Clean and modern apartment. I send a text and go up. The door opens and Baby Ravi is scared at first. I thought she might refuse because of my size, but she was nice and welcoming. We go in and I hand over the paperwork. She talks a lot and speaks English well. She seems worried when I take off my clothes because she says they're tight and my 8" could be too much for her. I say I'll take it slow and easy. We go to the shower and talk a lot and I speed things up a bit. Up until that point, we haven't had any contact. I was hard to see her naked. Her body is perfect. I think it's the most beautiful I've ever seen. She's better than the girls Babi Ai (j), Arina, Suzi, Lime (although Lime is more my body type. Ravi's is more of an hourglass shape and HYA's height, not a woman's vibe, but a teenager's). After a shower and BW, we go to bed. I lay down and she comes on top and we kiss, she gets down and does a reasonable BBBJ, we turn into 69 and she has a beautiful pussy, coin slot, no exposed lips and closed, incredible flavor, she feels ticklish if I open it and stimulate it, after that she puts on the cover and comes on top and I understand her concern, it was difficult to enter even with the help of gel, and after 5 minutes of her doing ACG I wanted to change to DS but she asked for more time in ACG to get used to the whole size and a few minutes later I feel like she reached her limit my size and she was rolling her eyes saying it was very good, at that I couldn't take it anymore because it was very tight, and I had never come so close to finishing in that position, I wanted to let her finish me, but I needed to see her in DS and we changed, she was very wet and as soon as I saw her in DS I knew I couldn't take it and so it was, the view of her ass is perfect heart shaped, I finish and go to the shower and she apologizes for being very wet, she talks a lot and goes to drink water and I finish the bath alone.

    Baby Ravi is a newbie, she doesn't have a script and if you're looking for work you won't find it, but if you're looking for a HYA body in her early 20's, that girl from the UCLA campus in her freshman year is her. I prefer young and hot girls like Baby Ravi, Arina, Baby Ai, Baby Jasmin, girls who are at most 22 years old and have a beautiful body, instead of these super models, there are 25 year old women with a rate of 500/600. For 25 year old women, there is Lime, Baby Sweet, Baby Yui, Minji who have a standard rate and are perfect choices. MILFs over 30 want distance.

  8. #8804

    C-Org Prices

    Quote Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty  [View Original Post]
    By end of year, you will see more HYAs going for 400+ and up to 650/700.

    If you know what's right, and you don't speak up, you saying your rights don't matter. I don't like gatekeeping, MILFs, rebrands so I spoke up. Premium girls may be targeted soon. These are what we can do:

    1. Don't see girls with abnormal rate.

    2. Post review quickly if you see her and not happy. Private groups ain't helping. All girls know "new" girl will bait many mongers. Cause FOMO. Only you can prevent Boner from throwing away his money.

    3. Review normal rate girls (don't gate keep) so mongers can spread the love.

    4. At some point, we should start walking out on premium girls, rebrands, and MILFs if we are not happy with who's behind the door. Walking out and not sharing only you hurt you and doesn't help anyone else.

    Obviously you don't want to walk out a lot. That's why sharing intel in public forum is key. I will share quickly if you share intel to me. Read this sensible thought I quoted from Resilient John below.

    Rebrands, MILFs, upcharges, shills don't matter much to me cause I know enough. I don't like crazy rate but what can I do if gatekeepers hide HYAs from me. Gatekeepers = Segregation. I want to smash it. Only reason I haven't gone all out on shenanigans against us mongers cause all the white knights, bookers, bosses, and girls will want to drop me off a bridge like Darth Vader. I don't feel like any bro got my back so I am just biding my time.
    These are C-Org prices on fake pic chicks regardless of the turn out. The C-Orgs cater to Chinese incels who couldn't get a date if their life depended on it. Not us well traveled Cassanovas who have been around the block. Might as well see a domestic chick that speaks English and uses her real pics. You can find them on X, HX, or IG. Just got to' sift through all the GPS.

  9. #8803
    Quote Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty  [View Original Post]
    By end of year, you will see more HYAs going for 400+ and up to 650/700.

    1. Don't see girls with abnormal rate.

    2. Post review quickly if you see her and not happy. Private groups ain't helping. All girls know "new" girl will bait many mongers. Cause FOMO. Only you can prevent Boner from throwing away his money.

    3. Review normal rate girls (don't gate keep) so mongers can spread the love.

    4. At some point, we should start walking out on premium girls, rebrands, and MILFs if we are not happy with who's behind the door. Walking out and not sharing only you hurt you and doesn't help anyone else.

    Obviously you don't want to walk out a lot. That's why sharing intel in public forum is key. I will share quickly if you share intel to me.
    For 1, I used intel. I want to point out bookers have learned from SBC's mistakes and are making the effort to do some QA. Testing the girl out first. Then asking for feedback if Gyuri is worth her rate. They know it's a fine line, and at least that's an improvement from SBC. SBC was experimenting as all businesses have to do, it's nothing personal but some guys were burned. They overpriced many girls and it's kind of obvious it doesn't work because you lose loyal customers. Whereas Jisoo into Gyuri actually made sense, they proved Jisoo was good first (obviously most of that is not public). In the coming days maybe others will chime in on the new pricing for Jisoo. I've already PM'd the meta reason she had to rebrand I do see both sides of that less drama is nice. You know my thoughts on Daisy, I felt she was exceptional and worth her rate.

    2 I post what I know, which is going to be spotty since it's up to random chance. If I'm not sure about something, I'll send it to one or two people and see if they know more. Of course, I also follow the dead silence rule. The list of overpriced girls is too long, I am not about to spend money to prove what I already know from multiple intel, and so I will just list the exceptions. HYA themselves are an exception list btw. There are 12 verified HYA in OC right now, which is unusually high and I don't expect it to last. One more is pending verification. We will have to carefully investigate!

    3 It's not common knowledge but certain agencies like SKP simply have budget girls who are good. That's what it really is. Their girls show up on SAG and Get9. I know I started out focusing on girls, but seeing premium pricing lately I've focused instead on budget and value. All my latest rosters are a combination of HYA and budget girls. Many are like you and hunt in OC, any HYA has to at least consider it:
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7166627 Jan 17 OC Roster
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...08#post7162108 Jan 14 OC HYA and BB roster
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7159975 Jan 12 SKP BB special
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7151204 Jan 3 Descriptions
    https://www.skparadise.com/ SKP, also booked by SAG and Get9

    4 I just don't see premium girls until I know they're they exception. This is why I always thank rich guys who toftt. I mean it, that's how I got multiple reports on Gyuri / Jisoo. It is thanks to their kindness and generosity that guys can make a fair decision. It's how I knew to see Daisy and knew exactly what she looked like before seeing her.

  10. #8802

    No to premium baby February?

    By end of year, you will see more HYAs going for 400+ and up to 650/700.

    If you know what's right, and you don't speak up, you saying your rights don't matter. I don't like gatekeeping, MILFs, rebrands so I spoke up. Premium girls may be targeted soon. These are what we can do:

    1. Don't see girls with abnormal rate.

    2. Post review quickly if you see her and not happy. Private groups ain't helping. All girls know "new" girl will bait many mongers. Cause FOMO. Only you can prevent Boner from throwing away his money.

    3. Review normal rate girls (don't gate keep) so mongers can spread the love.

    4. At some point, we should start walking out on premium girls, rebrands, and MILFs if we are not happy with who's behind the door. Walking out and not sharing only you hurt you and doesn't help anyone else.

    Obviously you don't want to walk out a lot. That's why sharing intel in public forum is key. I will share quickly if you share intel to me. Read this sensible thought I quoted from Resilient John below.

    Rebrands, MILFs, upcharges, shills don't matter much to me cause I know enough. I don't like crazy rate but what can I do if gatekeepers hide HYAs from me. Gatekeepers = Segregation. I want to smash it. Only reason I haven't gone all out on shenanigans against us mongers cause all the white knights, bookers, bosses, and girls will want to drop me off a bridge like Darth Vader. I don't feel like any bro got my back so I am just biding my time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Resilient John  [View Original Post]
    ... Also DON'T fall into some misguided obligation that you need to suck it up and see her anyways. You have every right to walk, just as she has every right to refuse to see someone. It goes both ways. Don't feel that you have to walk on egg shells to get on the good side of bookers. I always find the next part awkward and there really isn't anything to do but be honest and say I don't want to see you again. Once you leave, immediately text the booker that you are walking and why. It is critical to not leave them hanging. It also serves another important role: to inform the booker, girl, and owner that rebrands are not appreciated and tolerated. The more walk outs happen, the more their bottom line is affected. Coupled with calling out rebrands and nipping it in the bud before a walk out situation happens, IMO, is effective in curbing the rise of rebrands...

  11. #8801

    🔥 🌱 🍑 Boner Certified CYA Baby Ravi

    Resilient John review was spot on and Bbaka10 too. I got nothing new to add except her pussy was tight. She was so wet. The Kegel was the strongest I can remember in recent memory.

    Quote Originally Posted by ResilientJohn  [View Original Post]
    P: Definitely not her, they even used one of Freesia's old ad pics. The overall impression they want to make is that she has short hair and is cute.

    L: Super cute face, I did not ask but she looks all natural, what caught me off guard was that she looks more Chinese than Korean. Short jet-black hair falls to her chin. Small round face with slightly plumb lips and button nose. She's 5'2" and early 20's in my estimation. Natural perky B's was a delight to play with. And it's been such a long time since I've been fortunate enough to encounter a petite bubble butt that I lost hope. All natural here too, firm and resilient. Pussy was shaped perfectly with a bit of stubble. Pale skin complexion with no tattoos that I could see. And here's her main draw folks: she's an exemplary spinner. Tight and toned with an actual hourglass figure. I christen her Super Cute Young Asian (SCYA)...
    Quote Originally Posted by Bbaka10  [View Original Post]
    ...
    * God damn, that BODY. Her body is her best asset (body over looks). Her body is very tight and she's got a nice bubble butt. I would describe her body as pear shaped in the best way possible. Not crazy skinny or TOAS like Nali, but still def slim and trim. My best guess is that her body is all natural. While she's probably B cups, I thought her tits were still very nice.

    * My best guess is that she is mid 20's. And def exudes youth.

    * I get the sense that she is super green to this profession, and thus, not jaded yet. I got a bit of nervous energy from her, which was endearing and cute. She's very talkative and wants to please...

  12. #8800
    You've had an account for almost two years and have, as you said, been lurking and reading, so you should know. Just go to the website of the agency you want to use, text them, and they'll give you instructions to get screened.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yths4  [View Original Post]
    Hello gentlemen. I've been lurking, reading reviews, and am interested in seeing one of these women. I'm severely inexperienced with how this system works however. I've only ever seen one provider off of PD, which I assume is different than booking a HYA. Is there some posted guideline somewhere on how to approach and what to expect. Being relatively new to the hobby, I'm incredibly paranoid about safety and discretion. PMs are welcomed. Thanks in advance boys.

  13. #8799
    Hello gentlemen. I've been lurking, reading reviews, and am interested in seeing one of these women. I'm severely inexperienced with how this system works however. I've only ever seen one provider off of PD, which I assume is different than booking a HYA. Is there some posted guideline somewhere on how to approach and what to expect. Being relatively new to the hobby, I'm incredibly paranoid about safety and discretion. PMs are welcomed. Thanks in advance boys.

  14. #8798
    I think you might have been replying to the wrong person? I was talking about how bookers add to the drama with infighting amongst themselves, which then ripples out to girls and owners. Right now, a relatively new booker is doing well, and so other bookers are jealous / bitter / whatever, and it's stressing the girls out because they're getting pressure to not use the new booker. Some girls leave because of this, or decide not to use a particular booker, which then can affect the flow of money going to bookers and owners, etc. It's all a big symbiotic relationship, and ripples in one area can definitely have effects on other parties.

    Quote Originally Posted by RockItAllNite  [View Original Post]
    So from the 60 per appt. Just how big a raise do you think it was? How much do you think it affected the going rate compared to this boss / owner trying to raise rates by 150-200+ per girl? The bookers aren't getting any of that.

  15. #8797
    Quote Originally Posted by Panchito33  [View Original Post]
    Posted this in the OC forum, you can still get BBFS, MSOG with KGIRLS, but not in LA, I'm currently in the Bay Area and got a Nymph, Della. 300 for an hour, all in, BBFS, MSOG, she's hot AF and a freak. Work takes me to the Bay Area so I get my fill when I'm in town. If you ever find yourself in SJ, look her up. Also, blame the bookers for the state of the game in LA.
    I have been preaching this for years now no one listens you still have a high population of people willing to pay these ridiculous prices, like any other person I rather pay for food, rent, fuel and basic human necessities. I just stop and save my money and take a trip to Asia and have fun to $40-$60 plain and simple in time mongers will learn and know how much better it is outside the USA.

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