Kgirls Rebrands

[BonerAppetitty]

I take rec from bookers cause they may know if a girl is HYA or not. Sure they / somebody can lie. That's why I still take 5 minutes to sense the Force before committing.

...On another note, I don't take booker recommendations because they almost never know how the girl will do. The good bookers will ask for feedback after a session because they only have what the owners tell them. These good bookers then tabulate and compile the feedback they get from customers that choose to share so they can give at least a better informed recommendation. There are not many bookers that operate that way cause it's a drain on their time and effort.

[Randy62]

I think Milk / Soda had other names like "Omar" or something in the past.

(as Milk) and (as Soda) 5'4" 106 lbs DD cup.

Are those wagons real? This looks tempting.

[Im Myself]

Is she also possibly currently 'Mocha', and previous as 'Layla'?

Mocha is a different girl, but you are correct julli4/ gem3 was layla (I've seen both of them).

[Resilient John]

Yup, I rarely TOFTT. A girl who has no reviews, no comments on this board, and no intel from trusted brothers is a high-risk proposition. Whenever I do it (maybe 4 or 5 times a year) the failure rate is around 80%. Which is different from the past. About 8 to 10 years ago, the hit rate was much better for new / unknown k-girls. And photos were more accurate, especially if the girls were handled by a trusted booker like J. Now, that's all gone downhill. A lot times, it seems the bookers don't even necessarily know who's good and who's not.

The last really excellent k-girl I saw based on zero intel was Arina. So sometimes it works out exceedingly well. But usually not. The best intel, of course, comes from trusted bros. Those recommendations are golden.

If you think about it, no one really knows how a girl will perform until she gets feedback from the customers. Not the booker, not the owner, or even the girl. She may have worked at places that catered to certain styles or had customers that were content with what would be considered a low bar here in Socal. So it really does come down to intel posted here and elsewhere to accurately gauge her service.

On another note, I don't take booker recommendations because they almost never know how the girl will do. The good bookers will ask for feedback after a session because they only have what the owners tell them. These good bookers then tabulate and compile the feedback they get from customers that choose to share so they can give at least a better informed recommendation. There are not many bookers that operate that way cause it's a drain on their time and effort.

[Taliesin92]

I get what you are saying cause I still admire chivalry and have respect for older generations. I was a legit white knight and would just chuckle if somebody called me a simp. Walking out / not is a personal decision.

As someone who may see a "new" girl on her first day / hour, I could have gotten the brunt of the deception. Worse, they may rebrand to raise rate. I don't care about much until I feel like they "cock block" me from legit new HYAs. You don't hobby the same way I do, so I can understand if you can't help. Only bros who TOFTT can help each other if they choose to. I try to help bros like me when I can, but my hobby style is not conducive with detailed reviews.

Yup, I rarely TOFTT. A girl who has no reviews, no comments on this board, and no intel from trusted brothers is a high-risk proposition. Whenever I do it (maybe 4 or 5 times a year) the failure rate is around 80%. Which is different from the past. About 8 to 10 years ago, the hit rate was much better for new / unknown k-girls. And photos were more accurate, especially if the girls were handled by a trusted booker like J. Now, that's all gone downhill. A lot times, it seems the bookers don't even necessarily know who's good and who's not.

The last really excellent k-girl I saw based on zero intel was Arina. So sometimes it works out exceedingly well. But usually not. The best intel, of course, comes from trusted bros. Those recommendations are golden.

[Slicer4]

Booker Gray double listed her as Julli4 and Gem3. Also known as Liac on other sites.

Is she also possibly currently 'Mocha', and previous as 'Layla'?

[BonerAppetitty]

Thanks for sharing so I don't have to. I knew it but it's good to have a quick take about her. She was someone I told Boner to hold his horse. I may still see her after checking out new HYAs.

Rebranded Doreen (BayKisses / SweetBobaTime) in the Bay is the latest example of orgs abusing the "Baby" moniker. You've been warned.

[BonerAppetitty]

I saw her recently. I think they were larger than C. I can't size it if larger than C. Could be wrong, but I think as voluminous as Momo tits. Not "very firm" and didn't remember feeling her implants, but I wasn't trying either. I thought her tits and ass were well done. Her Baby Peach P.S. Pics are how she wants to look like, I think. She seemed hotter than before, but that was just me. One of the few girls I thought still worthy of the Baby brand.

Search for "Barbie" in HYA and PLEASER threads if you want to see other recent reviews.

They really E Cups?

When I saw her last year, they were MM C's, maybe large C's if you give her the benefit of the doubt and very firm, not rock solid mind you but you can plainly feel them implants. Based on those that saw her as Barbie she has upgraded her tits and I hope they are done well this time. I was planning to see her cause it's quite rare for any kgirl to openly offer video but it looks like she's taken that off the menu and increased her base price. I'll vote with my wallet and just not see her. The Freesia effect is spreading and I don't like it one bit.

[BonerAppetitty]

Booker Gray double listed her as Julli4 and Gem3. Also known as Liac on other sites.

[BonerAppetitty]

I was too busy to alert and she left too quick anyway. Used to double with MILF Jay. (reviews here).

(ad here) I think she already left after couple days. Some sites may still have her ads.

[BonerAppetitty]

I think Milk / Soda had other names like "Omar" or something in the past.

(as Milk) and (as Soda) 5'4" 106 lbs DD cup.

[BonerAppetitty]

I get what you are saying cause I still admire chivalry and have respect for older generations. I was a legit white knight and would just chuckle if somebody called me a simp. Walking out / not is a personal decision.

As someone who may see a "new" girl on her first day / hour, I could have gotten the brunt of the deception. Worse, they may rebrand to raise rate. I don't care about much until I feel like they "cock block" me from legit new HYAs. You don't hobby the same way I do, so I can understand if you can't help. Only bros who TOFTT can help each other if they choose to. I try to help bros like me when I can, but my hobby style is not conducive with detailed reviews.

So uh, there's a big difference between some sloppy food, who no one cares about, and rejecting a hard-working young woman's sexual advances to her face because you don't like her. Especially when it was YOUR decision to see her in the first place.

It's just money, dude. A few pieces of paper that get more & more worthless every day. The girl is a human being. So, yes, I will spare her feelings and stay for the appointment. As I noted in my post, sometimes it works out. Sometimes the girl comes through. And sometimes she doesn't. That's just part of the game.

If the "average Joe" can't afford to handle a bad appointment every once in a while, this probably isn't the best hobby for him.

Fool me once (with fake pics), shame on her.

Fool me twice (with new name but same fake pics), shame on me.

Fool me thrice (with new name AND new fake pics), shame on both of us.

[Download X]

Even the few times I got tricked, I did not remember her until I already got naked or after the session, or I didn't mind / actually had plan to repeat with her. If I use Viagra, it's probably next to impossible for me to get a bad session anyway. Even if I see a CYA twice as heavy as Ppomi, or a 50+ MILF, I may still give it a shot. I have a screw lose. I might feel like how the mighty Boner had fallen after the session, but I may get an ego boost during the session. Sometimes I even thought the girls should pay me. It was mostly on me if a session was meh.

These days I see most girls on intel, so it's pretty straightforward. But I sometimes have the mood and "want someone new" especially if my ATFs are busy, so I'm cool if the girl isn't a HYA. My worst experiences are from bad attitude, even with a cute girl. She rushes me and makes me feel very unwelcome. This is why I don't walk based on looks since it's not the reason except in the case of F-tier aka "just an old woman". Most C-tier and D-tier girls are a fun time, including MILFs who have a good body or face. Worth trying for variety, just not all the time. I don't consider Ada super attractive or anything, she's D-Tier looks but she has a fantastic attitude, is a lot of fun, took good care of me. Service over looks. I'd repeat her. Looks aren't everything, even for me. But what I found is things fall off a cliff at E and F tiers. When I hunted HYA, I got B-Tier and up usually with an occasional C-Tier like a butherface with a fantastic young body that gets me rock hard. No problem there.

I must be easy because I like every single HYA as defined it's not even close. When Minji opened the door she was better than I expected since I always keep expectations low. Her body was just my type too. People tended agreed on that whether they liked her or not, she's body over face. Later writing reviews I realized there were mixed opinions on her face, we all get that happens, but I'm reminded again that I just have certain tastes that can't be conveyed. Many people agreed with me she was a cute HYA, but you can always see their hesitation in saying so. They give some variation of "I know some guys don't like her face, but I did" among other people saying she looks like some ordinary girl in Korea.

Look, I've been to Korea many times, all corners of it. I walked the streets and saw regular Koreans more than I saw the upper class. The average girl in Korea is f*g ugly, I'll just say what I saw with my two eyes every time I went. You'd have to be blind not to immediately notice that walking down any normal street. My friends called them 호박 because they had the deformities and value of a pumpkin. I know it's cruel but in Korea looks are all that matters, they would say out loud what I only dared to think. I have fond memories of roads less traveled. I remember going up some random mountain of Pusan off-trail and discovering make-shift farms the way people set up homeless encampments in the US. Yes when I went high end places in Seoul the average improved at least, not as much as you'd think. If you think average Korean girls are hot, I know why btw. You did the exact same thing I did where I immediately looked away from most women, then you set your eyes on the exception. Simple as that. Less attractive women in Korean know they are less attractive and don't give attitude like they aren't, they are solid people. Looks only should matter for personal attraction, I always treated less attractive women with great courtesy because more than any country SK is a looks based society. Meaning it matters beyond personal attraction in things like careers and how people treat you.

Their happy customers may still find them with new name through back channels. I said this years ago, many girls know guys like to see new girls. So it's obvious they think rebranding / new pics can bait in more unsuspecting customers. They won't care about your complaints as long as they keep the money and nobody out them.

It was a bit sad for me I could talk normally online with a girl until she rebranded. It wasn't her decision and she had to play along, so I let it be. With another girl I was on better terms with, she just didn't care and we went at it normally. She had no idea why she was rebranded, though in some cases the booker literally forgot the girl's old name and it's happened with multiple girls.

[BonerAppetitty]

As much as I whined about rebrands and MILFs, I don't actually get tricked that much. It's more like I look at all the ads trying to get some peaches and I see mostly lemons. I will take your advice if I truly don't want to see a girl again. Good advice.

Even the few times I got tricked, I did not remember her until I already got naked or after the session, or I didn't mind / actually had plan to repeat with her. If I use Viagra, it's probably next to impossible for me to get a bad session anyway. Even if I see a CYA twice as heavy as Ppomi, or a 50+ MILF, I may still give it a shot. I have a screw lose. I might feel like how the mighty Boner had fallen after the session, but I may get an ego boost during the session. Sometimes I even thought the girls should pay me. It was mostly on me if a session was meh.

Also rarely cancel. It would take an act of God or somebody in my way to stop me from coming. I am fully committed when I go through the door. Never felt like turning around before.

I do feel sorry for some bros when they TOFTT and get a bad session on girls I would avoid. I can't warn them when it was just a gut feeling.

...I always find the next part awkward and there really isn't anything to do but be honest and say I don't want to see you again. Once you leave, immediately text the booker that you are walking and why. It is critical to not leave them hanging. It also serves another important role: to inform the booker, girl, and owner that rebrands are not appreciated and tolerated. The more walk outs happen, the more their bottom line is affected. Coupled with calling out rebrands and nipping it in the bud before a walk out situation happens, IMO, is effective in curbing the rise of rebrands.

The aftermath: I can only speak for myself and one other case where someone did get BL. For me, all bookers involved were understanding. Some even apologized, others said they weren't aware, while others took it in stride as part of the business. With so many cross listing these days, I think the minuscule risk of BL is inconsequential to the power we are have in a walk out, in denying a predatory tactic that essentially cons your customers into a situation they don't want to be in.

Anyone else walked out before? If you don't want to share, that's fine too, but a simple confirmation that you have would be appreciated nonetheless.

[BonerAppetitty]

I would bolt already if I could have sexcation. We could have all reviewed and bring these girls to task. If only there was a Boners Union. With 100 Boners, both the Korgs and Corgs will feel the pressure.

... But if they want to milk our hard earned dollars here in the states which pays better than in their Asian markets, we deserve better efforts & standards....

Their happy customers may still find them with new name through back channels. I said this years ago, many girls know guys like to see new girls. So it's obvious they think rebranding / new pics can bait in more unsuspecting customers. They won't care about your complaints as long as they keep the money and nobody out them.

Fewer people report rebranding than even reviews. Not proud of doing this to these girls but they leave me with no choice when I was almost tricked. As someone who TOFTT a lot, the main thing that saves me is Boner Sense. Doing this is also a way to sharpen my mind against rebranding / multi-branding.

For those who worry about hurting her business, she can just lower her rate, try harder, and still easily earn more than most customers per hour. Or try another city. Or rebrand again with fake pics.

So even if bookers didn't know, now they will know once I post it. As you know, there will be less shenanigans when somebody is watching. I have more considerations for these girls than they do to me.

There is a recent trend of changing a girl's name and photo and then charging a lot more for her...

If you keep a girl's name and raise her rate, only happy people will walk in and see her. Who cares about the complaints then. It's worse when you hide it. Then the complainers are actual customers who walked in, get surprised, and feel disappointed.