"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Peter Johnson]

The post you're responding to is a from a few months ago, so I'm no longer seeing that particularly hottie, but to answer your question, it's was 200 plus hotel since the initial date.

I think someone can get hot girls for less than 300 quite easily, but most guy don't want to put in the time / effort to do it. I think over 300 is overpaying, even for an 8+. Why? Simple: these girls will fuck guys for free. If they fuck a guy for free then they'll certainly fuck me for $, and if they fuck one guy for free then anything better than free is good LOL.

You bring up some good points and these girls sometimes get lonely or like a new friend, so if they are getting $200 to hang out and have some sex, then I could see they would sometimes go for it But seems like they could get more from someone else. But maybe not every day. Or when the rent is due, or when they need drug money. There is a lot of competition out there, among SBs too.

It does take a lot of work, as you say, but can also be a fun challenge and project to work on. Anyway, we always appreciate your hard earned wisdom and POV and good reminder not to overpay, when not necessary.

[GoneForGood97]

Great score, and congrats...must be sweet. But did you get her for 200 ppm the first time, or is just the repeat price? Sure once you bang a girl once or twice, and they know you are safe and not creepy, then you can often negotiate a lower price for subsequent meets. But we are mainly talking about first meet, here.

And sure, 1 in 1000 hot instagram models on Seeking would take 200 ppm for first visit, but not much more than that.

It seems to me that 300 (plus hotel) is now the usual baseline for 8+ girls. Maybe even 7+. Yes you can get some 6's and 7's for 200, maybe, if you contact hundreds of them. And contacting hundreds of them not a bad strategy, although certainly time consuming.

But I doubt many hot girls are ok with less than 300 on first visit. I mean like less than 5% of them, or somewhere in that area. More and more of them want 400 minimum, even the homely ones. I have no idea how many guys go for that, but if you have to negotiate too hard with them, then less likely they will provide good service. But perhaps that is not a huge factor.

Anyway, you make good points not to overpay, but it isn't that clear what price point "overpaying" begins at, with different classes of girl.

The post you're responding to is a from a few months ago, so I'm no longer seeing that particularly hottie, but to answer your question, it's was 200 plus hotel since the initial date.

I think someone can get hot girls for less than 300 quite easily, but most guy don't want to put in the time / effort to do it. I think over 300 is overpaying, even for an 8+. Why? Simple: these girls will fuck guys for free. If they fuck a guy for free then they'll certainly fuck me for $, and if they fuck one guy for free then anything better than free is good LOL.

It's not hard, but it is time consuming, and you'll certainly occasionally miss out on some girls or a possible "sure thing. " Most guys don't want to put in the time and effort to get to know someone well enough that you can convince them they WANT to fuck you. Even if you're not traditionally attractive. Be a decent conversationalist, put some effort into learning about them, and act interested. You mention 1 in 1000 hot instagram models, but what about 1 in 1000 dudes who just treat these girls like they're wh*res? If your conversations are simple, direct, and focused on $ and fucking, then you're going to have to pay more, because at that point they are an escort. Escorts have a fee to fuck guys they wouldn't normally fuck. If you take the time to talk to them like a potential girlfriend, you're already ahead of the 1000 other guys that messaged them "hey" followed by "ph# followed by a text "how much?

It's more time consuming. But if you do it right and they actually WANT to fuck you, you can basically pay whatever you want.

My current SB is 150 plus hotel. Now in all fairness she's nowhere near as hot as my little wannabe insta-model from this past summer / fall, but she's closer to me and saves me driving to Atlanta, so I'm ok that she's not as cute.

[MadDog1746]

Anyone seen this baby, seems promising but you know the saying if its to good to be true.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...71915480&nsp=1

[Peter Johnson]

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...f-053068035f1f

Wants 800 ppm, CFS. Seems like an intelligent, and nice girl though. Just out of my range. You high rollers can go for it.

[Peter Johnson]

Mariah - https://members.seeking.com/member/d...9-abf84c7bec3a.

Taylor - https://members.seeking.com/member/6...8-7c592c3de560.

Kati - https://members.seeking.com/member/3...2-9b910fbf11fa.

Linda - https://members.seeking.com/member/6...1-4a6b6bdf5321.

Kati seems like a massage girl, but I can't find her escort page. But, I like her look.

I talked to Linda a good bit. She is married or has a bf and I think wanted high ppm (500). And I think CFS only, as well. She sent some XXX videos. She sells content too, but just not for me, for a variety of reasons.

[BrownSugaTwo]

Mariah - https://members.seeking.com/member/d...9-abf84c7bec3a.

Taylor - https://members.seeking.com/member/6...8-7c592c3de560.

Kati - https://members.seeking.com/member/3...2-9b910fbf11fa.

Linda - https://members.seeking.com/member/6...1-4a6b6bdf5321.

Kati seems like a massage girl, but I can't find her escort page. But, I like her look.

[AtlPrince]

I saw them too and I concur.

Seductivediva, 23 in Atlanta, maybe Buford, real name Alyssa.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...7-bb5abfe99249

I saw her awhile back and terrible experience, and another guy here was telling me about a bad time he had, and turns out it was with this same girl. You have been warned.

Also Joy in Covington age 29.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...6-251c5909f38b

Another bad experience, quasi-scammer.

Also Rose in Sandy Springs. I can't find her profile, but she is in her 20s and just dangerous.

I can't give more details, because some losers on here tell the girls everything we write, but just take my word for it ... or take your chances.

The pics below are of Alyssa and Rose.

[Peter Johnson]

Ok I don't want to only focus on the negative, so here is a woman from Seeking, who was good.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...e-04cf49458f5a

I saw her awhile back and she is very chill, and also affordable, but YMMV there. Pics in her profile are fairly accurate, age could be off a bit.

She is in Austell right now, but seems to be good about driving to where you are.

[Peter Johnson]

Seductivediva, 23 in Atlanta, maybe Buford, real name Alyssa.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...7-bb5abfe99249

I saw her awhile back and terrible experience, and another guy here was telling me about a bad time he had, and turns out it was with this same girl. You have been warned.

Also Joy in Covington age 29.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...6-251c5909f38b

Another bad experience, quasi-scammer.

Also Rose in Sandy Springs. I can't find her profile, but she is in her 20s and just dangerous.

I can't give more details, because some losers on here tell the girls everything we write, but just take my word for it ... or take your chances.

The pics below are of Alyssa and Rose.

[SeekingHead]

Is Sugardaddymeet better than seeking? I have been using seeking on and off for 5 years now. Has everyone switched? Are there better girls asking for lower $$.

If your into black girls it's the best site by far.

[Peter Johnson]

This is what so many guys, including some in this forum, fail to understand, and why they continue to struggle with overpriced GPS instead of finding reasonable allowances.

I'm currently fucking a mid 20s former insta model for 200 plus hotel. I fucked her a few times a few months ago but we both got busy and lost touch. Snap alerts me last month it's her birthday, I message her happy birthday, and we get a conversation going. A week later I'm balls deep in her at a hotel, and now we're making something regular work out. She's arguably in the top 2-3 most beautiful women I've ever plowed, and I'm going to get to plow her all bare, every weekend, for 200 plus hotel.

Tl;dr if you're paying 300+ and having to pay for a hotel room for Atlanta SBs, you're doing it wrong.

Great score, and congrats...must be sweet. But did you get her for 200 ppm the first time, or is just the repeat price? Sure once you bang a girl once or twice, and they know you are safe and not creepy, then you can often negotiate a lower price for subsequent meets. But we are mainly talking about first meet, here.

And sure, 1 in 1000 hot instagram models on Seeking would take 200 ppm for first visit, but not much more than that.

It seems to me that 300 (plus hotel) is now the usual baseline for 8+ girls. Maybe even 7+. Yes you can get some 6's and 7's for 200, maybe, if you contact hundreds of them. And contacting hundreds of them not a bad strategy, although certainly time consuming.

But I doubt many hot girls are ok with less than 300 on first visit. I mean like less than 5% of them, or somewhere in that area. More and more of them want 400 minimum, even the homely ones. I have no idea how many guys go for that, but if you have to negotiate too hard with them, then less likely they will provide good service. But perhaps that is not a huge factor.

Anyway, you make good points not to overpay, but it isn't that clear what price point "overpaying" begins at, with different classes of girl.

[Peter Johnson]

She just got out of prison.

What for? I looked up another SB and she was arrested recently for "Theft by taking" so I decided to pass on that one.

It's good to remember that a lot of these SB girls are thieving drug addicts, just like in the regular escort/hooker world. I forget that sometimes.

[Peter Johnson]

I always wonder what they mean by "Self Employed / Entrepreneur" - does that mean IG influencer or UTR?

It often means they sell custom jewelry or crafts on Etsy and make like $20 a month from it. But now you are right, and probably means they have thirty followers on Instagram and trying to make a living as an "influencer".

[Cmcae1]

Been chatting with her but haven't been able to pin down a meet. Frustrating because I don't think she has GPS (at least not yet).

Anybody have any luck with this one?

She just got out of prison.

[SetoMan]

Is Sugardaddymeet better than seeking? I have been using seeking on and off for 5 years now. Has everyone switched? Are there better girls asking for lower $$.