Massage Parlor Reports

[Grimmy23]

Does this also apply to massage establishments that try to circumvent being a massage place by labeling themselves as a "spa", "acupuncture", etc?

"Spa" is pretty much massage by definition. Sure there's "hair spas" and "nail spas" and such, but those are licensed professions in California, so you can't operate a "spa" of any type (strangely enough other than a massage spa) in California without going through the state board. There is no such thing as a massage license in California, therefore there is no state massage board. There is a civilian organization called California Massage Therapy Council (CAMTC). They issue massage certificates, and most cities require the certificate for MTs to operate within their city limits. It's sort of a license but not quite. They don't have the authority to regulate establishments. That falls on the cities.

There have been a lot of stories in the past of "chiropractic clinics" that were really fronts for MPs offering sexual services. In a lot of those cases it was someone operating under the license of a chiropractor who either retired or left the business. If they get busted and get their license revoked, no biggie, they're out of the business anyway. Same thing with acupuncturists.

[Citrus1999]

Nature\Green sign, is said to be back open, as of this morning.

Yep they are indeed open. Who's taking the plunge? Good time to go for you mongers that don't like waiting there.

[Eilers]

Went today. 45 hf, got aimee, who seemed mid 30's, nice body, small ass. Massage was crazy, like super fast, not on time but her hand motions. I prefer the slow light touch on the tease but this was hi speed. On the flip wanted 100, I was like no way. Countered and she was like no, you new customer I do for 80 and I said no thanks. Put the towel over the now relaxing junior and proceeded to give leg massage. At end she come back an was like ok I do for you. I was no thanks tipped for the massage and left. At that point knew if I agreed it would be a rocket jack and I was already over it. Hit up dang on way home for eye candy but not much going on and smoke was even worse than normal and then saw kimmy on DD IG feed, so shitty day all around hahaha. Oh I texted the number again and she was like what you tell me who and I fire her now. That is too high. Whether she was serious or not, I wasn't about to say and potentially get someone fired. Again, I know not likely but just in case there was a small chance she was serious, not doing that a week before Christmas.

Sad because Suphatras used to be a good place to get a great massage and a quick HE afterwards.

[Oc Amper]

https://www.winfordbetgtr.com/

With the fall of green sign, maybe it's time to venture out. But traditionally c-agencies always had bad rep for grannies. Probably same girls that hypno hotel is using.

Nature\Green sign, is said to be back open, as of this morning.

[Fe Maiden]

Didn't get her name. She was cute with a nice body. 40 for 30 minutes hf. Massage was okay but not much teasing. Flip brought the negotiations. 120 for BJ not sure if CBJ or BBBJ. I passed. Got a nice slow sensual HJ. Tipped 60 because it was a good HJ. She was amazed at the volume of my load. Probably won't return.

[BigBoDonk]

Hi,

Pics are fake. I am curious about JX Massage, they say mamasan has big tits there. Anyone had FS there?

https://www.winfordbetgtr.com/

Came across this while browsing around massage parlor ads and just want to check if anyone here has any experience with them. Seems like a c-agency more than a mp spa place. Some locations has pics of girls of other ethnicities, which is interesting.

Messaged them thru Telegram and was told they are house locations and rates are: For one girl rate 140 hhr /200 hr and 220 hhr /280 hr with VIP service. Not sure what difference in service levels are but probably the typical difference like other k-houses.

Obviously most good pics there are probably fake but some seems like real pics but those girls look like nothing special.

With the fall of green sign, maybe it's time to venture out. But traditionally c-agencies always had bad rep for grannies. Probably same girls that hypno hotel is using.

[SaltyDog]

https://www.winfordbetgtr.com/

Came across this while browsing around massage parlor ads and just want to check if anyone here has any experience with them. Seems like a c-agency more than a mp spa place. Some locations has pics of girls of other ethnicities, which is interesting.

Messaged them thru Telegram and was told they are house locations and rates are: For one girl rate 140 hhr /200 hr and 220 hhr /280 hr with VIP service. Not sure what difference in service levels are but probably the typical difference like other k-houses.

Obviously most good pics there are probably fake but some seems like real pics but those girls look like nothing special.

With the fall of green sign, maybe it's time to venture out. But traditionally c-agencies always had bad rep for grannies. Probably same girls that hypno hotel is using.

I just compared the pics to the VIP gals and looks like many of them the same. At least you get that WeChat bar code or what ever they call that thing. The VIP group branched out into all kinds of different names I've noticed.

[Winger537]

https://www.winfordbetgtr.com/

Came across this while browsing around massage parlor ads and just want to check if anyone here has any experience with them. Seems like a c-agency more than a mp spa place. Some locations has pics of girls of other ethnicities, which is interesting.

Messaged them thru Telegram and was told they are house locations and rates are: For one girl rate 140 hhr /200 hr and 220 hhr /280 hr with VIP service. Not sure what difference in service levels are but probably the typical difference like other k-houses.

Obviously most good pics there are probably fake but some seems like real pics but those girls look like nothing special.

With the fall of green sign, maybe it's time to venture out. But traditionally c-agencies always had bad rep for grannies. Probably same girls that hypno hotel is using.

[Periphery]

Most cities require what's called a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) for massage establishments. I had to get one for my (fully legit) one. To get a CUP you typically have to have a hearing in front of the city's development board. Before the hearing you have to send out notices of public hearing to all residences and businesses within a specified radius of your proposed location. There are actually "radius map" services out there that you have to hire to run whatever the specified radius is around the address (typically one mile, but can vary from city to city) and they will send you address labels for everybody who falls into that radius, which you have to deliver to the city so they can mail out the public hearing notices. Of course all of this comes at the business owner's cost. This gives neighboring residences and businesses an opportunity to comment or object to the proposed business.

When you get your CUP it comes with a bunch of attached conditions. Mine is about 8 pages of legalese covering various things. Can't be open past 10 PM, nobody can sleep in the building, must have clear windows so you can see into the lobby from the outside, no window coverings, doors have to be unlocked, nobody except employees and customers allowed past the lobby, etc. If at any time the city finds the business in violation of the terms of the CUP, they can revoke the CUP in a heartbeat, which means you're shut down. That's independent of the business license. My business license is renewed ever year but if my CUP gets yanked a day after I renew I'm still shut down because both are required in order to operate. All of this can be done by code enforcement without the need for LE to get involved. However, it is sometimes very hard for code enforcement to actually enforce anything without LE involvement because they don't have the capability of doing an investigation and gathering evidence..

Does this also apply to massage establishments that try to circumvent being a massage place by labeling themselves as a "spa", "acupuncture", etc?

[EmaisaSlut11]

Has anyone tried the little Viet spinner here? I saw her when I was being escorted to a room by another provider. She looks fun tiny but built. May try her next visit. But was wondering if anyone has experience with her.

[Oc Amper]

I was somehow able to finish the session, mostly by closing my eyes while doggy humping and fantasying that I was drilling a young cutie rather than a MILF wearing a midriff Spanx girdle to hold in her blubber. Hell, this MILF should have paid me.

How does Believe go from having hotties to this?

[Winger537]

So she gets up to grab a towel, right as the woman opens the room door. The first thing the Latina housekeeper sees is me sitting there with a full, saliva-soaked bone, and I just say "No!" Her eyes are wide open, she blurts out, "Sorry, sorry!" and quickly retreats. Candy runs to the door in just a white towel, opens it, and calls to the housekeeper to ask her for more towels. Crazy, right? Then she brings the extra towels into the room, and resumes the BBBJ, but asking me not to make noise.

I was somehow able to finish the session, mostly by closing my eyes while doggy humping and fantasying that I was drilling a young cutie rather than a MILF wearing a midriff Spanx girdle to hold in her blubber. Hell, this MILF should have paid me.

That's hilarious LOL! Should have just offered the Latina housekeeper to join in or switch job with Candy LOL.

[EmaisaSlut11]

Anyone seen the new Viet spinner here. I saw here as I was being escorted to the room by another girl there. Super small but curvy. Just wondering if anyone has experience with her. I might give her a go next visit. Just looking for some info on her first. Don't want to waste my time if no good.

Cheers.

[Sticker]

I saw them in a Holiday Inn. It was so bad I couldn't go through with it. Candy was not sweet at all. Acted friendly, but looked uncomfortable and incredibly limited menu. I'm friendly and respectful, so I Don't know why other than the language barrier. When I wanted DFK, I asked. I'm not one to force myself on a girl. She wanted more cash. I asked about daty (maybe that would put her at ease), she wanted more cash and only wanted my tongue to touch her. I asked if I could suck on her boobs. She said no. She said she would suck me off first. She then proceeded to start putting the rubber on, so she wasn't going to do BBBJ. That's when I got up and was like "no kisses, no kiss (I pointed down there), no sucky sucky. I can't do this. I gave you 1. 6. I'm done. " She tried to convince me to stay. I ripped the rubber off, changed, and walked. 1. 6 to TOFTT. Yeah, 2024 looks rough.

I had a similar experience, and won't be back unless mms guarantees me she has a good-service cutie. I'm miffed that she led me to Believe that Candy was dandy. Here's a somewhat funny, somewhat concerning related note. The room was on the 10th floor of the Holiday Inn Express in Santa Ana, so I had to go through the lobby past the reception desk to an elevator, rather than being able to go in through the back way and up some stairs, like I have at other hotel venues. Definitely not discreet. Her "no" list for me was no kissing, but when she wanted to put my condom on before the BJ, I told her my $140 tip always includes BBBJ, and she then agreed.

To start the BBBJ off, I was sitting on the edge of the bed (at the end of it), while she was sucking (very toothy). Then a knock comes on the door, which is just a few feet away, and a woman says "Housekeeping". Candy doesn't say anything and seems to be confused as to what to do, and then keeps sucking before the housekeeper called out again.

So she gets up to grab a towel, right as the woman opens the room door. The first thing the Latina housekeeper sees is me sitting there with a full, saliva-soaked bone, and I just say "No!" Her eyes are wide open, she blurts out, "Sorry, sorry!" and quickly retreats. Candy runs to the door in just a white towel, opens it, and calls to the housekeeper to ask her for more towels. Crazy, right? Then she brings the extra towels into the room, and resumes the BBBJ, but asking me not to make noise.

I was somehow able to finish the session, mostly by closing my eyes while doggy humping and fantasying that I was drilling a young cutie rather than a MILF wearing a midriff Spanx girdle to hold in her blubber. Hell, this MILF should have paid me.

[Dildo Baggens]

They could shut down half of them with this provision alone. (Linens)

3. "Common use of towels or linen shall not be permitted. Towels and linen shall be laundered or changed promptly after each use. Separate enclosed cabinets shall be provided for the storage of clean and soiled linen and shall be plainly marked "clean linen" and "soiled linen" and shall have doors or covers. ".

I cut a bit of the response, only because it was very long, but very informative.

Orange Muni Code.

https://library.qcode.us/lib/orange_..._5_56?view=all

Looks like, Chief of Police can take action, if a violation of conditions is found. Take a look at.

5. 56.060 Conditions of Operation.

Looking over those conditions, I'd say Nature complied with just a few, violated most. The few they might have been in compliance of, probably are just minor conditions in the eye of the city.

"The Police Department may inspect the occupied massage rooms for the purpose of determining that the provisions of this chapter are met upon occurrence of any of the conditions which would require the posting of the "Notice To All Patrons" as set forth in this chapter. During an inspection, the City may verify the identity of all on-duty massage therapists. ".

That clause, I would imagine is fairly common. Being that the City / Police had little if any true evidence before, this allowed them to peek inside and see what was going on for themselves.

It will be interesting, to see what happens next. Probably, very much as described by Grimmy.