"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**GoneForGood97** · 09-26-23 14:00

Originally Posted by Raheem [View Original Post]

I ask for her hhr donation. Often, 500 becomes 300.400 becomes 250.

Never...ever...EVER talk time or hour rates with an SB. That shit's for escorts. The ONLY thing I'll mention when it comes to time is when I'm setting expectations for what I'm looking for, something like "I want to meet once a week or so for a few hours of fun". If you're seeing a SB for a hhr or ASKING for hhr and agreed to it, you're talking to a working girl who just uses SA as a higher end listcrawler / backpage / Eros. Which is fine, but 90% of the "real" SBs on the site do not want to feel like an escort, and talking about half hour or hour rates is a sure fire way to miss on a real GFE opportunity and ONLY have success with the escorts who work the site. Maybe that's your goal, but I actively try to avoid anyone on the site who gives escort vibes.

**JohnnyKash** · 09-26-23 12:01

Originally Posted by Airmantroy [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...f-a0a210f69739

Pro on eros at 500/ hr. Going to lowball her at 300 and cross my fingers LOL.

She will take it.

**Airmantroy** · 09-26-23 11:47

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...f-a0a210f69739

Pro on eros at 500/ hr. Going to lowball her at 300 and cross my fingers LOL.

**JohnnyKash** · 09-26-23 11:34

Originally Posted by Airmantroy [View Original Post]

Thinking with the little head will cost you money and leave you highly disillusioned.

A lot of them will move to text and if you ask them what type of arrangement they are looking for they volunteer PPM. Never mention a time limit qv, hhr, hr. Your goal is as long as you want or until she gets dressed. I have a long term girl who I can stay an hour, or overnight and she's happy to go as many times as I want.

What is your type? Thin, thick, bbw, caucasian, asian, AA? 18-30 or 30+ ?

I go for the 28+ there are a few younger ones that I like I like and that I might go for but I like them Thick or the thin thick ones I don't care about race but I seem to like the Latains, Persains and AA the most.

**Airmantroy** · 09-26-23 11:08

Originally Posted by JohnnyKash [View Original Post]

So it is the delivery of the ask and how they get the money and how they are treated. That's cool but they still giving up A $$ for cash.

Truth be told I'm overwhelmed by my blank page with no pics and the only words I have are I'm new to this. This page is getting my inbox full like I'm David Beckham. Honestly trying to choose is very hard its no way I can gun all of these ladies down. But it is fun thinking about trying it makes me feel like I'm 18 again.

Thinking with the little head will cost you money and leave you highly disillusioned.

A lot of them will move to text and if you ask them what type of arrangement they are looking for they volunteer PPM. Never mention a time limit qv, hhr, hr. Your goal is as long as you want or until she gets dressed. I have a long term girl who I can stay an hour, or overnight and she's happy to go as many times as I want.

What is your type? Thin, thick, bbw, caucasian, asian, AA? 18-30 or 30+ ?

**NewAnonymousName** · 09-26-23 11:07

Are there any visa or other gift cards that will work to buy credits from Secret Benefits? There is a woman there, who I know from past experience is real, who I want to message. I tried my usual Visa gift card approach (visa gift card from big office chain which is registered online) that I use for Seeking at Secret Benefits roughly a year ago and it didn't work.

**SeekingHead** · 09-26-23 11:06

Originally Posted by JohnnyKash [View Original Post]

In they bio they say I'm not a **** so don't ask me about a PPM.

ROFL, I've only met a couple of girls like that out of the 100 so girls I've met on SA.

**JohnnyKash** · 09-26-23 11:01

Originally Posted by JoyDrop [View Original Post]

So that's a different kind of girl. She's letting you know she's more interested in a traditional sugar arrangement, almost certainly looking for big $ and long term. If you're new to the sugar bowl and just looking for some no-obligation fun, that's not the type of girl you want to start with.

Since you have said you new to this, you'll want to do a lot of reading, particular in the FAQ in the Richmond sugar thread. Everything you could ever want to know is captured over the last few years in that thread or this one. The vast majority of the girls on SA are real civilian women who would never think of themselves as sex workers. They are regular girls who are usually spending beyond their means so they decide it wouldn't be a big deal to get paid to go on nice dates and give up something they're used to giving away to the losers they date for free anyway. You need to understand that mindset. If you're talking to a girl who's clearly down for PPM, then you don't need to beat around the Bush and all this goes out the window. On the other hand if you're talking to a girl that is looking for a more traditional arrangement, one that would never ever consider herself a prostitute in the usual sense, then you need to approach her like it's a dating situation and woo her. It takes game and it takes effort. And when it's all said and done, it still comes down to money. The trick with this type of girl is to pay her for what you want without ever making her *feel* like you're paying her for what you want.

So it is the delivery of the ask and how they get the money and how they are treated. That's cool but they still giving up A $$ for cash.

Truth be told I'm overwhelmed by my blank page with no pics and the only words I have are I'm new to this. This page is getting my inbox full like I'm David Beckham. Honestly trying to choose is very hard its no way I can gun all of these ladies down. But it is fun thinking about trying it makes me feel like I'm 18 again.

**Machintosh** · 09-25-23 23:21

Originally Posted by Wolfish1 [View Original Post]

Any info on this SA chick?

Check reviews under the name college babe.

**Wolfish1** · 09-25-23 21:14

Any info on this SA chick?

**JoyDrop** · 09-25-23 21:07

Originally Posted by JohnnyKash [View Original Post]

In they bio they say I'm not a **** so don't ask me about a PPM.

So that's a different kind of girl. She's letting you know she's more interested in a traditional sugar arrangement, almost certainly looking for big $ and long term. If you're new to the sugar bowl and just looking for some no-obligation fun, that's not the type of girl you want to start with.

Since you have said you new to this, you'll want to do a lot of reading, particular in the FAQ in the Richmond sugar thread. Everything you could ever want to know is captured over the last few years in that thread or this one. The vast majority of the girls on SA are real civilian women who would never think of themselves as sex workers. They are regular girls who are usually spending beyond their means so they decide it wouldn't be a big deal to get paid to go on nice dates and give up something they're used to giving away to the losers they date for free anyway. You need to understand that mindset. If you're talking to a girl who's clearly down for PPM, then you don't need to beat around the Bush and all this goes out the window. On the other hand if you're talking to a girl that is looking for a more traditional arrangement, one that would never ever consider herself a prostitute in the usual sense, then you need to approach her like it's a dating situation and woo her. It takes game and it takes effort. And when it's all said and done, it still comes down to money. The trick with this type of girl is to pay her for what you want without ever making her *feel* like you're paying her for what you want.

**Raheem** · 09-25-23 20:54

Originally Posted by Verdit [View Original Post]

Sometimes I'll chat with a girl on SA who checks all the boxes, but her ask amount for PPM is too high for what I'm willing to pay.

Normally, I'll just politely decline without a counter. However, a couple of times that I have countered the girl gets offended that I'm not willing to pay the amount she wants.

So what have been SUCCESSFUL negotiation tactics you've used to get a girl down from a high dollar amount to something you're comfortable with paying?

I ask for her hhr donation. Often, 500 becomes 300.400 becomes 250.

**JohnnyKash** · 09-25-23 19:43

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

The overwhelming majority of them are just there for the $$ so why would it offend them?

In they bio they say I'm not a **** so don't ask me about a PPM.

**Peter Johnson** · 09-25-23 18:33

Originally Posted by JohnnyKash [View Original Post]

How do you bring up PPM in a respectful way without offending them?

The overwhelming majority of them are just there for the $$ so why would it offend them?

**UtahLedgend2** · 09-25-23 16:55

I know girls who have old accounts, but some of them date men two or three years and then they come back on and get the same account again. I met a girl once she fell in love with me, but she did not love our money. She said it was not enough for her. She had been on SA for four years when I met her. She finally found the double digit millionaire that she wanted married him and had kids. But one thing I can get that anytime I want it but I don't want it anymore. We still each other on WhatsApp.

Originally Posted by JohnnyKash [View Original Post]

Some accounts have been open for five-plus years does this mean they are a professional FWB girl / woman?