"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[TJennings7024]

I see that as a different playing field than sugaring in the US. Once you get into Europe, particularly eastern countries, the scene (online, bars, whatever) is aplenty with guys who could never get laid in the US to start with, but traveled there to become victim of lots of Russian or similar or expats of related zones, etc. And to be honest and fair, if were in a place where I wasn't getting what I wanted here, the allure of all those amazing looking ruskie-vaggies would be tempting, so I get it. But in that environment it doesn't surprise me when someone gets rinsed in a town they don't know well, where she knows everyone and is in on the take.

That particular scenario is just far removed from what I do. As discussed here, I never recommend letting the girl pick the restaurant, for a number of reasons. First, choosing where to eat for those you provide for is a dominance thing, so always have control of that. It's like driving a car is in control, never let an SB pick you up in her ride -- being the driver creates a psychological scenario in the favor of the driver. Second, if she chooses the restaurant in an area she does know, she could be on the take. Exception of this is if you're traveling with an SB in an area you chose and she can't possibly know, then letting her pick cuisine type or restaurant can sometimes give her the "I'm being spoiled!" vibe, and result in some good cock treatment for you later. But on this board there is a lot of variance in what is considered sugaring, and that last tip mostly applies to true SBs.

Yeah I don't mess around in those places too often. Now southern Europe- different story.

[TylerDurden07]

It's going to be the classic same day ghost maneuver I predict. It happens to me often especially with the really young ones. If it's not the ghost it's the advance scam or some variation. But good luck gents.

I've tried to text her twice today. The message wasn't delivered either.

At least she was polite enough not to pull a fast one the day of, lmao.

Glad I got my backup in Athens, so fun will still be had tomorrow.

Now you other dudes who had things set up with her let us know if you had better luck than me. I'd love to know if that happens.

[Atlvoy]

I'm having a hell of tough time meeting asian sb here. Just came from L. A and it wasn't as nearly difficult. Any of ya'll want to dm me any leads?

[TravelinSD]

I agree that this is definitely a TGTBT situation. If it turns out otherwise I'm happy for the other suitors and I'll pursue at a later time. Good luck to the others!

It's going to be the classic same day ghost maneuver I predict. It happens to me often especially with the really young ones. If it's not the ghost it's the advance scam or some variation. But good luck gents.

[OliverNP]

Another poster on another thread related his experience in Europe, where it is common for hot young things to pick up older wealthy guys, take them to a restaurant where they have accomplices, order off a 'special' menu with inflated prices, and the girls split the extra dough.

However, that poster also said he was getting incredible women in England right now for like 200 a date (virtue of dollar strength).

I see that as a different playing field than sugaring in the US. Once you get into Europe, particularly eastern countries, the scene (online, bars, whatever) is aplenty with guys who could never get laid in the US to start with, but traveled there to become victim of lots of Russian or similar or expats of related zones, etc. And to be honest and fair, if were in a place where I wasn't getting what I wanted here, the allure of all those amazing looking ruskie-vaggies would be tempting, so I get it. But in that environment it doesn't surprise me when someone gets rinsed in a town they don't know well, where she knows everyone and is in on the take.

That particular scenario is just far removed from what I do. As discussed here, I never recommend letting the girl pick the restaurant, for a number of reasons. First, choosing where to eat for those you provide for is a dominance thing, so always have control of that. It's like driving a car is in control, never let an SB pick you up in her ride -- being the driver creates a psychological scenario in the favor of the driver. Second, if she chooses the restaurant in an area she does know, she could be on the take. Exception of this is if you're traveling with an SB in an area you chose and she can't possibly know, then letting her pick cuisine type or restaurant can sometimes give her the "I'm being spoiled!" vibe, and result in some good cock treatment for you later. But on this board there is a lot of variance in what is considered sugaring, and that last tip mostly applies to true SBs.

[LouisHernandez]

Man we all are eagerly awaiting the results of this. It's like a TV drama.

It's going to be the classic same day ghost maneuver I predict. It happens to me often especially with the really young ones. If it's not the ghost it's the advance scam or some variation. But good luck gents.

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We moved to text.

[AmpFanatl]

Hell! I'm not going in on Sunday after the three of you bang her out on Saturday! LOL! She's trying to cash in that NooB card!

Man we all are eagerly awaiting the results of this. It's like a TV drama.

[Bill Ginn]

So she's gone from "never done this before" and "a bit nervous" to scheduling 3 meets in a day and at least one the next day. And you have to assume that the guys on this board are a fraction of the guys she's talking to. Odds that this is real have just dropped dramatically. But hopefully I'm wrong for at least one of you guys. Good luck!

Hell! I'm not going in on Sunday after the three of you bang her out on Saturday! LOL! She's trying to cash in that NooB card!

[DudeNextDoor]

I'd be doing the same thing in your situation. Let us know how it goes!

I have HUGE reservations about her, based on both my own instinct & what you guys have been sharing on here. All I can say is that I've spent now 3 days in a row of frequent to almost constant texting with her. She's shared several really good pics, including one partial nude one as well. Her personality & conversational abilities are much better than the average girl her age that you meet on SA.

Yes, we have a meet set for Saturday late morning now. She gave me the name of her dorm at UGA specifically--where to pick her up. And she says she'll do a video chat with me this evening when I'm available because I'm trying like the devil to assure myself she's real.

All my suspicious instincts say "too good to be true. " But I see this as low risk. I don't live that far from Athens. As with any of these girls, any requests for "advances"which she has not done, at least yet--will be met with termination of contact by me. Plus, I've lined up a plan B in Athens (a known commodity to me & reliable) operating under the assumption that this girl is a fake.

To me, it's worth a shot. If she ghosts or otherwise no-shows, then I'll be on my way to plan B.

[CarmelFight]

I have HUGE reservations about her, based on both my own instinct & what you guys have been sharing on here. All I can say is that I've spent now 3 days in a row of frequent to almost constant texting with her. She's shared several really good pics, including one partial nude one as well. Her personality & conversational abilities are much better than the average girl her age that you meet on SA.

Yes, we have a meet set for Saturday late morning now. She gave me the name of her dorm at UGA specifically--where to pick her up. And she says she'll do a video chat with me this evening when I'm available because I'm trying like the devil to assure myself she's real.

All my suspicious instincts say "too good to be true. " But I see this as low risk. I don't live that far from Athens. As with any of these girls, any requests for "advances"which she has not done, at least yet--will be met with termination of contact by me. Plus, I've lined up a plan B in Athens (a known commodity to me & reliable) operating under the assumption that this girl is a fake.

To me, it's worth a shot. If she ghosts or otherwise no-shows, then I'll be on my way to plan B.

LOL why'all have me in suspense over here LOL. I set up a meet with a gorgeous blonde MILF for this weekend. She just sent me a message about getting into a car accident and heading to the hospital. I'm waiting on the "advance" payment for blah blah blah scam so we shall see.

[TylerDurden07]

So she's gone from "never done this before" and "a bit nervous" to scheduling 3 meets in a day and at least one the next day. And you have to assume that the guys on this board are a fraction of the guys she's talking to. Odds that this is real have just dropped dramatically. But hopefully I'm wrong for at least one of you guys. Good luck!

I have HUGE reservations about her, based on both my own instinct & what you guys have been sharing on here. All I can say is that I've spent now 3 days in a row of frequent to almost constant texting with her. She's shared several really good pics, including one partial nude one as well. Her personality & conversational abilities are much better than the average girl her age that you meet on SA.

Yes, we have a meet set for Saturday late morning now. She gave me the name of her dorm at UGA specifically--where to pick her up. And she says she'll do a video chat with me this evening when I'm available because I'm trying like the devil to assure myself she's real.

All my suspicious instincts say "too good to be true. " But I see this as low risk. I don't live that far from Athens. As with any of these girls, any requests for "advances"which she has not done, at least yet--will be met with termination of contact by me. Plus, I've lined up a plan B in Athens (a known commodity to me & reliable) operating under the assumption that this girl is a fake.

To me, it's worth a shot. If she ghosts or otherwise no-shows, then I'll be on my way to plan B.

[FarFarAway]

I've never been hit with a rinse attempt that was just trying to get a free meal. That could be because of how I vet them before the first date, or with how I come across to them (not the type of personality that would be a good candidate for their victim profile).

Another poster on another thread related his experience in Europe, where it is common for hot young things to pick up older wealthy guys, take them to a restaurant where they have accomplices, order off a 'special' menu with inflated prices, and the girls split the extra dough.

However, that poster also said he was getting incredible women in England right now for like 200 a date (virtue of dollar strength).

[OliverNP]

I don't know about any kind of scam, but a common tactic for some SBs and also girls on vanilla dating sites is called "rinsing. " A "rinser" is basically just looking to rinse as many guys as she can for free dinners / drinks etc without ever putting out. One of the big reasons I do coffee or drinks and usually avoid a full dinner on the first date is it automatically filters out the rinsers. Rinsers have a lot in common with wannabe insta models and influencers. Of course, if you're charming enough a girl who had planned on rinsing you may end up going to bed with you, but that's a low odds game.

I also get the feeling, and this is completely just a guess based on the patterns I've seen doing this over a year, but I suspect rinsing has become slightly less common and most rinsers have moved to trying to get SDs to pay for content instead. That's just speculation on my part.

I've never been hit with a rinse attempt that was just trying to get a free meal. That could be because of how I vet them before the first date, or with how I come across to them (not the type of personality that would be a good candidate for their victim profile).

But more than anything I think it's just that for a girl to get all dolled up and go to the time and effort (and transportation) expense of meeting for dinner, it would not be worth it just for them to get some free food.

So for me at least, the dinner scam is a non issue.

[DudeNextDoor]

So she's gone from "never done this before" and "a bit nervous" to scheduling 3 meets in a day and at least one the next day. And you have to assume that the guys on this board are a fraction of the guys she's talking to. Odds that this is real have just dropped dramatically. But hopefully I'm wrong for at least one of you guys. Good luck!

With you, the OP, and myself, that makes 3 of us that she's meeting on Saturday. Plus the guy who is scheduled for Sunday. She's going to be a busy girl this weekend. I'm not sure what to make of it. The texting seems real. No sign of scam or GPS. I guess we're all waiting for the scam to reveal itself.