"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**NewAnonymousName** · 03-06-23 00:27

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

Ok, so you say that paying for the prepaid card with cash is the exact same level of anonymity as paying with a credit card in your name. We will agree to disagree about that.

You are going off on a tangent, but yes I do have one. And it is not tied to my real name, phone number, or address. Same with Kroger card. I also don't give any business my phone number unless they absolutely need to have it....because there's usually no good reason to do so, and plenty of downside.

Yes, with a hat and mask on.

I never said I was 100% anonymous at all times. You are saying none of it matters, because no one can have 100% perfect privacy at all times. Again, I disagree.

Some of us take some very easy steps to increase level of privacy, and some of us do not. But to suggest it is impossible to do so is transparently foolish and absurd.

I'm with you. Adult friend finder was hacked and many members' names and email addresses were published online for anyone to see. So to register for Seeking, I take the relatively simple steps of buying gift cards, registering them under a fake name and address, and using a private email account that doesn't have my name or nickname in it. That way, if Seeking is ever hacked, the list that gets published online will have the fake name and unidentifiable email address instead of mine.

Could someone break through my privacy protections with subpoenas to Seeking, the store where I buy gift cards, the ATM providers, etc., and then put two and two (and two more) together from the subpoena responses to figure out who I really am? Yes, potentially, with a lot of effort and attention to details. But subpoenas don't go out unless you're being investigated for a crime or in a lawsuit (like a divorce proceeding). I'm not worried about those remote possibilities. I just don't want my name to go public if there's a hack of Seeking's database of members.

**Peter Johnson** · 03-05-23 22:17

Originally Posted by PrinceOfFools [View Original Post]

You are not safer buying an untraceable prepaid or gift card with cash in any way shape or form.

Ok, so you say that paying for the prepaid card with cash is the exact same level of anonymity as paying with a credit card in your name. We will agree to disagree about that.

Originally Posted by PrinceOfFools [View Original Post]

More fun: Do you have a Club Publix number, even if you don't use it to buy cards?

You are going off on a tangent, but yes I do have one. And it is not tied to my real name, phone number, or address. Same with Kroger card. I also don't give any business my phone number unless they absolutely need to have it....because there's usually no good reason to do so, and plenty of downside.

Originally Posted by PrinceOfFools [View Original Post]

You're on a camera walking around Publix.

Yes, with a hat and mask on.

Originally Posted by PrinceOfFools [View Original Post]

You are not anonymous anymore,

I never said I was 100% anonymous at all times. You are saying none of it matters, because no one can have 100% perfect privacy at all times. Again, I disagree.

Some of us take some very easy steps to increase level of privacy, and some of us do not. But to suggest it is impossible to do so is transparently foolish and absurd.

**PrinceOfFools** · 03-05-23 18:22

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

If you don't understand the inherent value of privacy and anonymity, to a reasonable extent whenever possible, in this hobby, I doubt I have the ability to explain it to you. But if you do buy a prepaid card with a credit card, then there is a paper trail that links them. I prefer to pay cash, when possible. Risk / reward, cost / benefit says that's what I do.

I just explained a bunch of actual privacy choices, I am very privacy oriented. You are not safer buying an untraceable prepaid or gift card with cash in any way shape or form. You're on a camera walking around Publix. Do you have a cell phone with you, even if it is turned off? It is trivial to combine that kind of information and locate you with the right access, cash isn't saving you. How are you getting cash, is it an ATM? More cameras and your bank number is being used. Maybe your job is paid in cash so it's easier for you, but it isn't "better" as everyone has a footprint. My main concern is seeking being hacked and someone dumping my info as well as not letting these girls know my info, so I protect against that. I do give the girls cash, frankly that's the riskiest part of this entire hobby and the most likely way you'd get identified so I try to leave them no real trace.

More fun: Do you have a Club Publix number, even if you don't use it to buy cards? The amount of analytics those programs generate is terrifying. Did you buy condoms or lube and use the Publix number before? How about flowers or jewelry? Do you have an SO that uses it for household items too? That is the kind of stuff that generates tons of Metadata about you and companies use it for many purposes. They can tell if a woman is pregnant before she knows and if you're fucking around on your wife. Cell companies do the same thing, your traffic patterns and stops are packaged and sold to many companies and gov.

You are not anonymous anymore, you just think you are and most of the steps you take to 'hide are security theater. Hell, this site isn't using an ssl cert and it allows all page indexing as best I can tell. Someone can follow you here and glean a ton of information about you and do it easily.

**Peter Johnson** · 03-05-23 15:14

Originally Posted by GoneForGood97 [View Original Post]

FriendlyPunk.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...9-f81230b1dbb4

Real and real fun. Sweet girl but flakey (why I stopped seeing her). Eager to please and no wasn't in her vocabulary. Won't host, so 200 plus hotel. Blue/purple hair is most recent.

Don't be a creep or a dick and she's pretty easy to land.

Yes, very flakey. She ghosted me for a couple of months, and then suddenly texted like that never happened and was interested in getting together. We had talked quite a bit and were going to meet up, but then she found some other guy and just ghosted me...then he got tired of her, after several weeks, so she turns up. I don't give women $$$ for that behavior, but sounds like could be worth the hassle, if you don't care about that. I've given some girls 2nd chances, and they really came through, so you just never know. At this point, if someone just disappears and can't take 15 seconds to send me a polite reply, it ruins the mood, and I'll pass. Plenty of others out there.... many of who will do the same thing.... but some will not.

**GoneForGood97** · 03-05-23 12:07

FriendlyPunk.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...9-f81230b1dbb4

Real and real fun. Sweet girl but flakey (why I stopped seeing her). Eager to please and no wasn't in her vocabulary. Won't host, so 200 plus hotel. Blue/purple hair is most recent.

Don't be a creep or a dick and she's pretty easy to land.

**Peter Johnson** · 03-05-23 11:26

Originally Posted by PrinceOfFools [View Original Post]

Who / what exactly are you trying to hide from? There isn't a way to link buying a prepaid or gift card with a credit card that bought them, they aren't serialized and documented at sale. The level of access to even begin to build that link requires a warrant and it would still be near impossible unless you flat out told someone what you were doing

If you don't understand the inherent value of privacy and anonymity, to a reasonable extent whenever possible, in this hobby, I doubt I have the ability to explain it to you. But if you do buy a prepaid card with a credit card, then there is a paper trail that links them. I prefer to pay cash, when possible. Risk / reward, cost / benefit says that's what I do.

**BrownSugaTwo** · 03-05-23 02:34

Originally Posted by GoneForGood97 [View Original Post]

She's real and been reviewed positively here in the past. I negotiated her to around 300-350 PPM, but we could never get schedules aligned.

Appreciate the info. Thanks.

**PrinceOfFools** · 03-05-23 01:20

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

That's good to know that the virtual visa worked, but what did you buy it with? If you used a regular credit card, then still links your identity to the card, to your SA account, but of course another couple of degrees of separation there. I just figure cash is king, with these types of situations. But it's good to have that backup, if the Publix VISA cards stop working.

Who / what exactly are you trying to hide from? There isn't a way to link buying a prepaid or gift card with a credit card that bought them, they aren't serialized and documented at sale. The level of access to even begin to build that link requires a warrant and it would still be near impossible unless you flat out told someone what you were doing. There's a reason scammers use prepaid cards, they're impossible to track down if you use a fake name and address to register it.

Most of the account problems people are having is because they do a bunch of shady stuff and trigger the fraud detection seeking is running. Sites with a lot of fraud issues build algorithms that use a reputation score to detect likely fraud. Score gets too high, it just bans you. Week old account using a VPN paying with a gift card? Easy ban. It is very easy to pick out a VPN if you're using a public VPN provider or an onion router, the IP space is pretty static. If you want anonymity, use public wifi. Did you know many ISPs have their customers routers broadcast a public SSID? Comcasts is called 'xfinitywifi' and dumb users often leave it on, others like ATT do it too. You can often find these in residential areas, just park on the street and use it.

You can also do something like run a VPS somewhere like linode or digitalocean and run your own VPN service there and connect. Less likely to catch a ban and you can still pay for it with a prepaid.

**Roddee** · 03-04-23 22:53

I miss backpage. . .

I'm just going to leave this right here.

Glhf.

**Peter Johnson** · 03-04-23 19:45

Originally Posted by SoonerFan72 [View Original Post]

FYI, I just followed the link to the giftcardmall.com, and bought the virtual visa. It worked just like described above. Fake name, address, and phone number.

That's good to know that the virtual visa worked, but what did you buy it with? If you used a regular credit card, then still links your identity to the card, to your SA account, but of course another couple of degrees of separation there. I just figure cash is king, with these types of situations. But it's good to have that backup, if the Publix VISA cards stop working.

**LolBoat** · 03-04-23 13:38

The amount of GPS out there is fkn insane. Def going to have to start looking at other avenues for finding sbs.

**LoriTruck** · 03-04-23 12:32

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...7-12ce9c143d9a

Got a m / g with this one later. Any info would be appreciated.

**Roddee** · 03-03-23 12:31

I blocked the girl on my previous post. However, her profile was up on another tab.

Lucky us.

Glhf.

**Roddee** · 03-03-23 12:29

I miss backpage. . .

I'm just going to leave this right here.

Glhf.

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**GoneForGood97** · 03-03-23 11:59

Originally Posted by BrownSugaTwo [View Original Post]

Sanrioluvr.

IsabelleR12.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...a-7a28b3799f01

I'm pretty sure she's been mentioned before, but a search didn't turn up anything.

She's real and been reviewed positively here in the past. I negotiated her to around 300-350 PPM, but we could never get schedules aligned.