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  1. #31841
    Quote Originally Posted by Aamui  [View Original Post]
    Do they offer happy ending / cfs or just HJ and massage. I want to make an appointment just want to make sure. Many thanks.
    Everyone is different, she's just an intermediary booking service for different providers at different spas.

  2. #31840

    Good business

    Sounds good business to be in. If provider gets caught then it is on them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmy23  [View Original Post]
    Some cities require providers to wear a photo ID badge, including some cities around here. Costa Mesa is one of them, but it is rarely enforced. There's a lot of other weird laws in certain cities. Things like reverse peepholes and a requirement to have a minimum 60 W non-dimmable light bulb in the room.

    California is a little strange when it comes to licensing. We are one of only two states that doesn't have a state massage license. The other one is a state with more cows than people. California leaves massage regulation up to individual cities, which is why you have clusters of MPs in some cities and no MPs in others. The cities set their own licensing rules. We have CAMTC, which is a certification, not a license. Some cities require CAMTC certification to do massage within their city limits. Some do not. Some give the option of getting a city-issued license instead of CAMTC. Some only require one CAMTC certified therapist to be on shift at all times. The other providers can be working "under the supervision of the CAMTC certified therapist. " So it is all over the board in California. Most cities require the certificate but there are some ways to get around it in some areas. To get the certificate you have to complete 500 hours of training from a school recognized by CAMTC, and you have to pass the standardized written exam. CAMTC cracked down a few years ago on quite a few schools that were deemed "paper mills. " They were giving out certificates to sex workers without any real training. There were about 350 "massage schools" in the state but CAMTC now only recognizes 75 of them, and they're putting the squeeze on some of those. So there are a lot of sex workers out there who had a valid CAMTC certificate at one point but were not allowed to renew it once it expired. A lot of those certificates are still hanging on the walls if some of our favorite shops.

  3. #31839
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoDonk  [View Original Post]
    Yoyo had license, it was hanged in front of entrance where mamasan would sit in Rose Garden. I think most of them have license just to be on a safe side, if LE would come.
    Every shop has a half dozen licenses. Using their Chinese names ("Lucy", "Jessica", "Amy", "Rose", etc). So its hard to match them up.

    But have you noticed that the girls come and go over the years, but the licenses remain the same? I am not sure if the licenses are fake, or if they belong to the original employees from 2001, or perhaps 6 Chinese got licenses then they discovered copy machine technology and distributed copies to every shop in a 100 mile radius.

  4. #31838
    Quote Originally Posted by OcAmper  [View Original Post]
    I haven't been out as much in recent times, older times when I was out there all the time, they frequently had licenses posted. I never gave a close look, probably wouldn't know if they were fake or not, or even if the names matched the ladies currently in the shop.

    In SF, some 25+ years ago or so, the girl in the shop had an I'd card that she was wearing. Assuming, it was a requirement. Made me very nervous, didn't know what I was walking into. Little head prevailed and little head got what was necessary. Was really surprised. I'm not sure she ever took that I'd badge off, even while I was fucking her.
    Some cities require providers to wear a photo ID badge, including some cities around here. Costa Mesa is one of them, but it is rarely enforced. There's a lot of other weird laws in certain cities. Things like reverse peepholes and a requirement to have a minimum 60 W non-dimmable light bulb in the room.

    California is a little strange when it comes to licensing. We are one of only two states that doesn't have a state massage license. The other one is a state with more cows than people. California leaves massage regulation up to individual cities, which is why you have clusters of MPs in some cities and no MPs in others. The cities set their own licensing rules. We have CAMTC, which is a certification, not a license. Some cities require CAMTC certification to do massage within their city limits. Some do not. Some give the option of getting a city-issued license instead of CAMTC. Some only require one CAMTC certified therapist to be on shift at all times. The other providers can be working "under the supervision of the CAMTC certified therapist. " So it is all over the board in California. Most cities require the certificate but there are some ways to get around it in some areas. To get the certificate you have to complete 500 hours of training from a school recognized by CAMTC, and you have to pass the standardized written exam. CAMTC cracked down a few years ago on quite a few schools that were deemed "paper mills. " They were giving out certificates to sex workers without any real training. There were about 350 "massage schools" in the state but CAMTC now only recognizes 75 of them, and they're putting the squeeze on some of those. So there are a lot of sex workers out there who had a valid CAMTC certificate at one point but were not allowed to renew it once it expired. A lot of those certificates are still hanging on the walls if some of our favorite shops.

  5. #31837

    Twofer report: Coconut and Ocean

    Someone was asking for a recent report on Coconut, so I figured I'd pop in and get one for ya.

    A recent report on Ocean piqued my interest, so I thought I'd check them out, too.

    Ocean:

    This is a no-frills FS jack shack, straight up. Walked in, late-20's / early-30's Mexican-seeming Asian girl took me to the room, took my $40 for 30 minutes, and the moment my bills landed in her hand she asked me, making the boom-boom motion at the same time, "here for fuck?" Confirmed. Asked for 180, I stood firm with 120, she relented. Once she came back it was down to business, which is to say it was definitely a business to her and she seemed to want me to know it. I did get her to cum, but otherwise she was just there to be pounded, and definitely not to ride. I didn't bother getting her name, as I had no intentions of coming back. Her looks and body and fun parts were average all around, though she definitely had a hell of a Bush (I like Bush, but hers was borderline jungle) . There was one other girl there, who I could sorta see on my way out, and looked around the same age but a little heavier. Would not recommend, unless you're looking for a no-frills sure thing. Don't know how long they'll last, what with taking zero precautions to filter out uncle LEO.

    Coconut:

    Got a text about a new girl, thought I'd stop in without an appointment to see who I drew. Long day so I got in a little before closing, which apparently everyone else decided to do, too. Damn near stepped on the toes of one of you on your way out, and got interrupted by another couple of you while I was there (if you are the one who decided to argue about the super standard house fee, maybe this hobby isn't for you. We both laughed at your idiocy).

    Anyway.

    Didn't get the new girl, though the one I got, Lily, whom I've seen before, introduced her to me. Mid-30's average-to-skinny Chinese with nice naturals, above-average-for-Chinese ass, and just the perfect amount of Bush. I definitely got the better of the two, as the new one looked like Lucy surely did 30 years ago, with too much makeup too much weight and not enough height. Lily is awesome. Above-average massage skills, fantastic attitude, great body, and good service. While fun time wasn't anything particularly memorable, it was definitely fun. What made it particularly good was that she was happy and energetic and very cheerful the entire time, seeming to be genuinely happy to be there and to see me, despite my running past closing time. I keep trying to change her mind but she's insistent on a cover, so it was CBJ and CFS, both very good. She let me DATY only a little, stopping me before she came (" I want to cum on your cock, not your tongue!") , which was fairly quick once we got going on the main event. Alas, no CG, as she was spent from cumming hard. 40 house for 30 minutes, 120 tip that she didn't even bother looking at when I handed it to her (I love it when they don't check, the advantages of being a regular who tips appropriately and respects the girls).

    Learned, though 'confirmed' is more appropriate, that my go-to girl works Sundays.

    Of course I'll return. Coconut is very consistent with their excellent service and bubbly attitudes, and standard rates.

  6. #31836

    Wellness Center on Garry

    Quote Originally Posted by Taws6  [View Original Post]
    Wellness Center on Garry has charged $50 since before the pandemic.

    Don't know about the multitude of other options.

    Haven't been recently as they have a free drive up covid testing center in the parking lot with an EZ-Up. In the second row of parking spots. I don't want to have people watch my comings & goings.

    S.
    I saw an add on BP and thought I would give it a try. Wen I saw all the activity in the parking lot I drove away and never returned.

  7. #31835

    ". Might Be Twitchin' a Little"

    Ladies and Gents.

    This report mimics a joke my paternal grandfather told me when he was 97 and I in my early 20's. Skip to the last paragraph if you don't need the chuckle.

    "Three men enter the local cafe and pie shop. Two are young bucks and the third their octogenarian grandfather. The waitress meets them at their table, dressed in her tightest, minimally-buttoned blouse and mid-thigh skirt. The boys all enjoy the view.

    She sweetly asks, "What's your liking today, Boys?" The first of the two younger asks her with a smile, "What fresh pie do you have today?" Looking behind and above her, she sees a peach and a blueberry pie on the lower shelf and a raisin pie way up on the top shelf.

    Once she presents the pie options, young buck #1 says, "I'll have a slice of raisin pie, please. " She gives a nod, then turns, steps upon a small step-ladder and stretches way up on her tippy-toes to reach the raisin pie. She brings it down, trims out a slice, puts the pie back on its high perch, then serves young buck #1 his pie.

    Each of the boys enjoys the revealing view and smiles appreciatively.

    Young buck #2 quickly states, "I'll have a slice of raisin pie as well, please. " Another nod from the waitress and the same raisin pie delivery ensues. Again, the boys are most appreciative of the view.

    The waitress now looks to the old man and says, "I bet yours is raisin, too. " To which the old man replies, "Well it ain't raisin but it's sure twitchin' a little. ".

    Ladies and gents, if your thing is a late 20's / early 30's, long-black-haired waif, wearing a lovely smile, skinny jeans and sporting a splendid thigh-gap and small B-cups, run, don't walk, to Massage 2018 on Bolsa. She's as FOB as they come and named something like Nalee or Nalwee. MMS was rather unintelligible with her name but was very clear stating she is new to the USA, this is her first day and "to be nice to her. " I was nice but this type is not my "slice of pie" if you know what I mean. No English and did not dismiss slight OTC ass roaming. Was unreceptive to OTC tata approaches.

    #BeNiceAndGentle.

    #BringExtraCash.

    #IDontKnowWhatsOnTheMenu.

    #MaybeNothing.

    #MaybeEverything.

  8. #31834
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmy23  [View Original Post]
    You can't get a license just because you want a license "to be safe. " You have to go to massage school, and it has to be a massage school recognized by CAMTC, and 100% of the massage schools currently recognized by the CAMTC require classes to be taught in English. And there's a rather difficult written exam that has to be passed, and it's in English. So for any of these girls to get a license there's a lot they have to go through. I know there are some who do, but they're few and far between. Like I said, I checked licenses in several shops just for my own entertainment, and nearly 100% of the ones I checked were expired, revoked, or fake.
    I haven't been out as much in recent times, older times when I was out there all the time, they frequently had licenses posted. I never gave a close look, probably wouldn't know if they were fake or not, or even if the names matched the ladies currently in the shop.

    In SF, some 25+ years ago or so, the girl in the shop had an I'd card that she was wearing. Assuming, it was a requirement. Made me very nervous, didn't know what I was walking into. Little head prevailed and little head got what was necessary. Was really surprised. I'm not sure she ever took that I'd badge off, even while I was fucking her.

  9. #31833
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoDonk  [View Original Post]
    Yoyo had license, it was hanged in front of entrance where mamasan would sit in Rose Garden. I think most of them have license just to be on a safe side, if LE would come.
    You can't get a license just because you want a license "to be safe. " You have to go to massage school, and it has to be a massage school recognized by CAMTC, and 100% of the massage schools currently recognized by the CAMTC require classes to be taught in English. And there's a rather difficult written exam that has to be passed, and it's in English. So for any of these girls to get a license there's a lot they have to go through. I know there are some who do, but they're few and far between. Like I said, I checked licenses in several shops just for my own entertainment, and nearly 100% of the ones I checked were expired, revoked, or fake.

  10. #31832

    Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoDonk  [View Original Post]
    Yoyo had license, it was hanged in front of entrance where mamasan would sit in Rose Garden. I think most of them have license just to be on a safe side, if LE would come.
    My experience has been that most don't have licenses. It's a multi-month process without being able to work. Women that aspire to ownership do. The Chinese speaking school in Rosemead has accreditation issues. Tests are in various languages. Chinese isn't one of them. At least it did not used to be.

  11. #31831

    Yoyo had license

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmy23  [View Original Post]
    You are correct. The CAMTC site will tell you what city they're working in. IF you know their real name, and IF they're actually licensed, and IF they update their info when they change shops. Few of the girls in shops mentioned in this forum are actually licensed. CAMTC does not recognize foreign massage schools and only accepts credentials from US based massage schools that give classes in English, so if it's a girl that speaks little to no English there is almost zero chance she has a valid license. They rarely update their info when they move shops until their license is up for renewal, which is every two years. The licenses do not list the name of the shop they're working in, just the city. So for purposes of this forum, searching that site is useless.

    Some of the places have licenses displayed on the wall in the lobby. Just for kicks and grins I've randomly run some of the names on those licenses. Almost without exception they're expired, non-existent, or revoked for misconduct.

    Bottom line is there's no way to find them by looking it up on any database.
    Yoyo had license, it was hanged in front of entrance where mamasan would sit in Rose Garden. I think most of them have license just to be on a safe side, if LE would come.

  12. #31830
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    Krystal and Company

    Do they offer happy ending / cfs or just HJ and massage. I want to make an appointment just want to make sure. Many thanks.

  13. #31829

    Locating girls

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoDonk  [View Original Post]
    So here is only public info available. https://www.camtc.org/record-search?...er=&work=Santa+Ana&lastName=&firstName= I believe if you don't know real name of the girl there is no way to find out where she went from her older place.
    You are correct. The CAMTC site will tell you what city they're working in. IF you know their real name, and IF they're actually licensed, and IF they update their info when they change shops. Few of the girls in shops mentioned in this forum are actually licensed. CAMTC does not recognize foreign massage schools and only accepts credentials from US based massage schools that give classes in English, so if it's a girl that speaks little to no English there is almost zero chance she has a valid license. They rarely update their info when they move shops until their license is up for renewal, which is every two years. The licenses do not list the name of the shop they're working in, just the city. So for purposes of this forum, searching that site is useless.

    Some of the places have licenses displayed on the wall in the lobby. Just for kicks and grins I've randomly run some of the names on those licenses. Almost without exception they're expired, non-existent, or revoked for misconduct.

    Bottom line is there's no way to find them by looking it up on any database.

  14. #31828

    Sexy MILF GangBang. IE - January 17th

    Hey all! I know this isn't a GB board, but I thought I'd share the opportunity. 30 yo sexy / curvy & hungry. 10-12 guys will be selected. Need to verify. PM if interested. Will share pictures.

    -HH69.

  15. #31827

    How to find the chicks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caribe  [View Original Post]
    It's the boss that usually says the girl went back to China. That phrase is AMP speak for she's working somewhere else or doing something else, now. Of course, the boss isn't going to tell you she's working somewhere else and where she went. That's like sending a paying customer somewhere else. He'd rather keep you at his place a take an alternative. There were times I had inside information on a provider's whereabouts. I would talk to the boss about that provider and he would give me BS about her going back to China. Of course, I didn't tell him I knew wetter. Or I would overhear him talking to another monger. "She went back to China. " If the provider tells you that, she may have her own reasons for not telling you where she's going. There is the off chance that she's actually going back to China.

    The rotation thing is mainly for AAMP workers. I've only known AMP providers to stay with a shop until they decide on their own to leave the shop. It's possible for an AMP worker to work for an owner who owns more than one shop. A decision may be made for the provider to permanently or temporarily transfer between shops. Lucy of F&C did that when the boss also owned Bali. He still owns Happy. If ancy is still at Happy, she transferred over from F&C. I'm not up to date on the Happy staff so, Nancy may have "gone back to China!
    So here is only public info available. https://www.camtc.org/record-search?...er=&work=Santa+Ana&lastName=&firstName= I believe if you don't know real name of the girl there is no way to find out where she went from her older place.

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