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  1. #21717

    L's not just with Thais

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrowned  [View Original Post]
    When I was a newbie to the scene I fell for a Thai provider and like Icarus I flew too close to the sun and got burned. She told me that she cared about me greatly and gave me some sob story that she needed quick money or she'll be evicted from her apartment. I gave her $1000 in cash and she told me she would pay me back within a few days.

    I never saw that money again. So don't get me wrong. I'm not defending any of these ladies. Their hearts don't bleed in red, they bleed in green and that's going to be the only outcome in this dance. You know it. I know it.

    But that doesn't mean we have to treat these woman like dirt either. I follow the church of the pilot aviator and truly believe that regardless of their moral alignment, we must be nice to the ladies and treat them with respect.

    You don't have to become a monster to defeat one.

    "Manners maketh man" great quote. Great movie BTW.

    But I've been in the game sometime and I can also agree with Top here, the Thai market has been on a nosedive as of late and I feel like Icarus isn't the only one plummeting to his doom.

    I tried to make to make an appointment with this one here.

    https://rubmd.com/washington-dc/2ff7...4ab08b70?ref=p

    And I didn't even make it past the screening. She asked for my name age and even a picture and after all was said and done she said she will pass on me and blocked me. First time that's ever happened.

    I've taken more Ls lately than I care to admit. So either my well of luck has run dry, or I'm due for some big score soon to balance the scales.

    The tides rise, and we must rise to meet it, lest we perish and drown.
    I dated a Cuban mamasita from Jacksonville recently. Had a fun time, but in the end I'm out cash and she's back in the club. I fell hard for a Nova Thai and had a few years of bliss. In the end, she was all about the business.

  2. #21716

    Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorDoctor  [View Original Post]
    Singed previously myself. Human mind plays tricks with stories made not based on reality.

    As many here, I've had close relationships or perhaps they appeared close with providers in the past. The difference is while bodies may have opened, emotions and deep intimacy were missing. Not saying that's one way or the other or perhaps your experience was different, it just was for me. Like it's sunny out. Nothing more or less.

    This is a business transaction. While it's tempting to think of oneself as"special" and yes, there are instances with at occurs, for the most part a service is provided for a fee. Yes YMMV or past performance is no guarantee of future results, we play the game.

    While we may hold expectations, the humaneness of this service is variable. Kinda like your favorite sports team, they may be awesome but some days things don't click. We just caulk it up in the W-L column. You hope there will be more W than Ls. The same with this game.

    One the cool things about this site, you get a free scouting report. So you have a sense what to expect if you play the game.

    Nothing is perfect. So I play this game with kindness and gratitude.
    I've lost money, years and things I will never get back, many many many times. Helped people move, took in someone and their family, and helped with bills and homework. Being human, and alone leads to these real things. While I try not to, I sometimes get too involved. But it's fun while it lasts. I'm looking for the next ex Ms. Give me some leads. Maybe the Thais are keeping me alive.

  3. #21715

    No FS in my experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Iohannes1971  [View Original Post]
    I was in Woodbridge along Rte 1. There is a little place on Opitz (if unsure, rubmaps will show the way) that I had stopped before and really enjoyed myself. The girl that time was Jenny. Chinese, probably late-30's, attractive, squishy but not fat. That is how I like them. She gave a good massage and a nice NOVA+ finish. She did camel slide an DATY while stroking with zero hesitation and worked on a second finish for me because time allowed. She worked hard an never complained at all.

    I was hoping to see Jenny again but I got Penny. Penny isn't as pretty as Jenny but has a similar squishy build. She was really pleasant and smiling and had a nice personality. She held my hand as she guided me to the room and rubbed my back and butt as I entered. She was wearing short shorts and a small shoulder less top. I let her do her massage for a while and it was a really good massage. I was not expecting one that good. She was getting in there and doing it right. She would whisper things in my ear here and there, "so handsome", "take care of you, baby", and things like that.

    I let my hand wander and started stroking her thighs and ass. There was plenty of room to start sliding my thumb up and discover she had some very tiny lacy panties on. That were already wet. She whispered in my ear, "Ohh you make me so wet, baby. " I was thinking, "Jesus. She is really really wet. " I was ready to flip and she noticed and pulled the pillow out. Then she pulled her shorts and panties down, opened her stance a bit and I started rubbing her clit, which was hard and she was dripping. She whispered, "Just take care of me" and took her top off. She has (maybe) B cups and she mentioned they were small. They looked nice and nice nipples and I told her so and nursed a bit while still rubbing her very very wet pussy.

    I laid on my back and she climbed on. I was not there for FS and rarely do that. I do enjoy camel slides though. I didn't ask her for it but she went straight for the camel slide. I am absolutely certain FS is on the table though. Anyway, she started grinding on me hard. Her pussy was so wet. Her lips were so spread. It really felt like FS. Her face was showing how much she was into this. Then she started rubbing herself while grinding telling me she is going to cum. She finished herself and was shuddering as she collapses on top of me. She did this twice.

    She turned around and I was DATY and she was grinding herself into my face while stroking me.
    I have been there many, many times and from my experience FS is not available and BJ is not either. But, I have had similar experience there with Penny as far as nudity, daty, PtoP slides, etc. I think I saw Jenny once and similar with her also. That is typical for this Chinese AMP. I am still seeing a couple that left there and relocated and continue similar service. Always friendly and accommodating and never beg for tips in my experience.

  4. #21714
    Quote Originally Posted by StVille  [View Original Post]
    I like weird shit and the "magical mermaid" CL post has a weird vibe, so TOFTT. Also sometimes advertises 4-hand w a male masseuse, but I didn't partake. Location is a legit CMT studio in an office building. Provider is late 50's local. Very business like. Nothing sensual about the presentation. The massage itself is typical spa day stuff. Massage and stretching, sugar scrub, and some time under a tent for a steam bath before and after the flip. Some light teasing throughout. Then gets weird for the finish. Disappears behind you for a bit, comes back around with her top open and they're actually pretty flawless. List of rules. Hand on one, nursing the other, no roaming below the waist. Switches sides during the buildup so both get nursed. Big release, left me to do cleanup on my own. Total damage $. 50.

    https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/...499901605.html
    Is she Asian, White, etc?

  5. #21713

    Magical Mermaid

    I like weird shit and the "magical mermaid" CL post has a weird vibe, so TOFTT. Also sometimes advertises 4-hand w a male masseuse, but I didn't partake. Location is a legit CMT studio in an office building. Provider is late 50's local. Very business like. Nothing sensual about the presentation. The massage itself is typical spa day stuff. Massage and stretching, sugar scrub, and some time under a tent for a steam bath before and after the flip. Some light teasing throughout. Then gets weird for the finish. Disappears behind you for a bit, comes back around with her top open and they're actually pretty flawless. List of rules. Hand on one, nursing the other, no roaming below the waist. Switches sides during the buildup so both get nursed. Big release, left me to do cleanup on my own. Total damage $. 50.

    https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/...499901605.html

  6. #21712

    Objects in mirror are closer than they appear

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrowned  [View Original Post]
    When I was a newbie to the scene I fell for a Thai provider and like Icarus I flew too close to the sun and got burned. She told me that she cared about me greatly and gave me some sob story that she needed quick money or she'll be evicted from her apartment. I gave her $1000 in cash and she told me she would pay me back within a few days.

    I never saw that money again. So don't get me wrong. I'm not defending any of these ladies. Their hearts don't bleed in red, they bleed in green and that's going to be the only outcome in this dance. You know it. I know it.

    But that doesn't mean we have to treat these woman like dirt either. I follow the church of the pilot aviator and truly believe that regardless of their moral alignment, we must be nice to the ladies and treat them with respect.

    You don't have to become a monster to defeat one.

    "Manners maketh man" great quote. Great movie BTW.

    But I've been in the game sometime and I can also agree with Top here, the Thai market has been on a nosedive as of late and I feel like Icarus isn't the only one plummeting to his doom.

    I tried to make to make an appointment with this one here.

    https://rubmd.com/washington-dc/2ff7...4ab08b70?ref=p

    And I didn't even make it past the screening. She asked for my name age and even a picture and after all was said and done she said she will pass on me and blocked me. First time that's ever happened.

    I've taken more Ls lately than I care to admit. So either my well of luck has run dry, or I'm due for some big score soon to balance the scales.

    The tides rise, and we must rise to meet it, lest we perish and drown.
    Singed previously myself. Human mind plays tricks with stories made not based on reality.

    As many here, I've had close relationships or perhaps they appeared close with providers in the past. The difference is while bodies may have opened, emotions and deep intimacy were missing. Not saying that's one way or the other or perhaps your experience was different, it just was for me. Like it's sunny out. Nothing more or less.

    This is a business transaction. While it's tempting to think of oneself as"special" and yes, there are instances with at occurs, for the most part a service is provided for a fee. Yes YMMV or past performance is no guarantee of future results, we play the game.

    While we may hold expectations, the humaneness of this service is variable. Kinda like your favorite sports team, they may be awesome but some days things don't click. We just caulk it up in the W-L column. You hope there will be more W than Ls. The same with this game.

    One the cool things about this site, you get a free scouting report. So you have a sense what to expect if you play the game.

    Nothing is perfect. So I play this game with kindness and gratitude.

  7. #21711

    It's a common story

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnySalami  [View Original Post]
    I agree. They shouldn't be treated as dirt. No provider whatever accuse me of being anything less than polite and friendly. Someone also mentioned that they all have to be damaged goods working in this business. I agree with that too, but I'll add that a lot of them are damaged goods because of this business and not because of some horrible situation they came from. Keeping up with the lies is no small challenge. Cycling through boyfriend after boyfriend everytime they find out, living a lie, and getting splooged in 5 to 10 times a day by guys whom you have no actual connection with is bound to take its toll.
    I dated a Thai girl that was from a pretty well to do family, she was here as a student here. We dated for a few months, had great sex and got along great. She moved back to Thailand, so we ended it. A few years later she was in LA working at a massage shop. I kind gave her the run down on how she could make much more more money by going into business on BP and keeping all of the profit for herself. She has been doing this for probably 10 years now. She recently visited the area and we met up. We hooked up as expected, but this time she was barely going through the motions. At the end, she asked for a payment. I was like, GTFO, no way. LOL, guess we don't talk anymore. No sweat for me.

  8. #21710

    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrowned  [View Original Post]
    When I was a newbie to the scene I fell for a Thai provider and like Icarus I flew too close to the sun and got burned. She told me that she cared about me greatly and gave me some sob story that she needed quick money or she'll be evicted from her apartment. I gave her $1000 in cash and she told me she would pay me back within a few days.

    I never saw that money again. So don't get me wrong. I'm not defending any of these ladies. Their hearts don't bleed in red, they bleed in green and that's going to be the only outcome in this dance. You know it. I know it.

    But that doesn't mean we have to treat these woman like dirt either. I follow the church of the pilot aviator and truly believe that regardless of their moral alignment, we must be nice to the ladies and treat them with respect.

    You don't have to become a monster to defeat one.

    "Manners maketh man" great quote. Great movie BTW.

    But I've been in the game sometime and I can also agree with Top here, the Thai market has been on a nosedive as of late and I feel like Icarus isn't the only one plummeting to his doom.

    I tried to make to make an appointment with this one here.

    https://rubmd.com/washington-dc/2ff7...4ab08b70?ref=p

    And I didn't even make it past the screening. She asked for my name age and even a picture and after all was said and done she said she will pass on me and blocked me. First time that's ever happened.

    I've taken more Ls lately than I care to admit. So either my well of luck has run dry, or I'm due for some big score soon to balance the scales.

    The tides rise, and we must rise to meet it, lest we perish and drown.
    I agree. They shouldn't be treated as dirt. No provider whatever accuse me of being anything less than polite and friendly. Someone also mentioned that they all have to be damaged goods working in this business. I agree with that too, but I'll add that a lot of them are damaged goods because of this business and not because of some horrible situation they came from. Keeping up with the lies is no small challenge. Cycling through boyfriend after boyfriend everytime they find out, living a lie, and getting splooged in 5 to 10 times a day by guys whom you have no actual connection with is bound to take its toll.

  9. #21709
    Quote Originally Posted by SexyD  [View Original Post]
    I dated one. It was all lies. Their skill is extracting money from men. Most are pretty good at it. If you see it for what it is, protect yourself and enjoy. But I keep my emotional distance and I am smart enough to not belive what they tell me. You can't work in this business and not be damaged goods, some more damaged than others.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tophat31  [View Original Post]
    Anyways the whole Thai network isn't what it used to be, at least right now. Hopefully things get better.
    When I was a newbie to the scene I fell for a Thai provider and like Icarus I flew too close to the sun and got burned. She told me that she cared about me greatly and gave me some sob story that she needed quick money or she'll be evicted from her apartment. I gave her $1000 in cash and she told me she would pay me back within a few days.

    I never saw that money again. So don't get me wrong. I'm not defending any of these ladies. Their hearts don't bleed in red, they bleed in green and that's going to be the only outcome in this dance. You know it. I know it.

    But that doesn't mean we have to treat these woman like dirt either. I follow the church of the pilot aviator and truly believe that regardless of their moral alignment, we must be nice to the ladies and treat them with respect.

    You don't have to become a monster to defeat one.

    "Manners maketh man" great quote. Great movie BTW.

    But I've been in the game sometime and I can also agree with Top here, the Thai market has been on a nosedive as of late and I feel like Icarus isn't the only one plummeting to his doom.

    I tried to make to make an appointment with this one here.

    https://rubmd.com/washington-dc/2ff7...4ab08b70?ref=p

    And I didn't even make it past the screening. She asked for my name age and even a picture and after all was said and done she said she will pass on me and blocked me. First time that's ever happened.

    I've taken more Ls lately than I care to admit. So either my well of luck has run dry, or I'm due for some big score soon to balance the scales.

    The tides rise, and we must rise to meet it, lest we perish and drown.

  10. #21708

    My 2 cents

    KK has been around for many years, as we all know. She has a great service but also pretty much sits at the top of the Thai massage network. She used to be able to refer you to who is in town and what their menu is. She was really great about that and I hand had many 4 hands with her over the years. FS is on the menu if she is comfortable with you. In fact I did BBFS one time with her many years ago which wasn't planned, I think she just got turned on. This was at her old spa, I just remember having to be quiet.

    She is different now. I can't quite pinpoint when she changed but she would always reward long time regulars with good service for a set price, no upsell ever. Now though it's like she pushes insane prices for anything outside of her norm. She also comes across as annoyed whenever I interact with her.

    Not sure if anyone had noticed this. As far as Apple, did BBFS way back in the beginning. She used to be Patty BTW way back in the day. I thought at the time I had a good connection and reference from kk so that's why I got BBFS but quickly realized not the case. She is freaky but not in an extreme way from my knowledge.

    Anyways the whole Thai network isn't what it used to be, at least right now. Hopefully things get better.

  11. #21707

    The link to Emma

    Rookie mistake. Forgot the link.

    https://us-nova.bedpage.com/bodyrubs.../12935302.html

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnySalami  [View Original Post]
    On another note I saw Emma over in the Tysons area. She's not the girl in the pictures, and definitely more of a bbw. But that's fine with me. She gave me the address info and I got to her professional studio. She went over a tour of all the services they provide and I'm not talking about the extras that we all go for. I got a tad concerned at that point. Anyway, she asked me what problem areas she should focus on. I got on the after she left the room and she came back to get started on the hour session. She did a pretty good job and successfully addressed my issues with my back. I was actually pretty impressed. About 15 minutes into it she lightly touched tickled my undercarriage which a nice. She revisited the area quite a few more times. After a while she encouraged me to flip. After that she dropped her top and put the nips in my mouth. She went down south and licked my joystick for a while which was nice. I got an almost bbj. She probably went about a 1/4 of the way down my cock. Felt fantastic but she then switched to HJ which was a bummer. But it was pretty good for an HJ and got the job done. I'm not sure if I'll repeat because I'm not sure that the menu will actually open up anymore and I hate coming back to see if more will happen. I prefer to be sure but that's just me.

    Face: 6.

    Body: 6 but bbw.

    HJ: 7.

  12. #21706

    Four Season

    Visited Four Season Wellness in Annandale the other night randomly. Asked for half hour and TS but they did not offer me one. Got a probably like mid 50's skinny lady as my MT who was very mechanical in her work. After about 20 minutes of massage she made me flip and gave the most half assed HJ possible. I didn't even finish so I tipped accordingly and left. All in all, very lackluster experience.

    Dm6.

  13. #21705

    I wouldn't worry

    Quote Originally Posted by JustALoner  [View Original Post]
    It might be nothing but I thought I'd just report this for anyone who is as paranoid as I am.

    I was in the Annandale Medical Center off Backlick and Braddock, the one next to a Giant grocery store and home to a few MPs. I saw Uncle LEO's car parked pretty much in front of Magic / Barney's place. Just thought some people here would like to know.
    I've seen patrol cars posted up there many times over the years. Think it's just their usual post up spot for catching people speeding on Backlick, so I wouldn't worry too much if I were you.

  14. #21704

    Good review j

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnySalami  [View Original Post]
    On another note I saw Emma over in the Tysons area. She's not the girl in the pictures, and definitely more of a bbw. But that's fine with me. She gave me the address info and I got to her professional studio. She went over a tour of all the services they provide and I'm not talking about the extras that we all go for. I got a tad concerned at that point. Anyway, she asked me what problem areas she should focus on. I got on the after she left the room and she came back to get started on the hour session. She did a pretty good job and successfully addressed my issues with my back. I was actually pretty impressed. About 15 minutes into it she lightly touched tickled my undercarriage which a nice. She revisited the area quite a few more times. After a while she encouraged me to flip. After that she dropped her top and put the nips in my mouth. She went down south and licked my joystick for a while which was nice. I got an almost bbj. She probably went about a 1/4 of the way down my cock. Felt fantastic but she then switched to HJ which was a bummer. But it was pretty good for an HJ and got the job done. I'm not sure if I'll repeat because I'm not sure that the menu will actually open up anymore and I hate coming back to see if more will happen. I prefer to be sure but that's just me.

    Face: 6.

    Body: 6 but bbw.

    HJ: 7.
    Thanks for info.

  15. #21703

    Mature Emma Tysons

    On another note I saw Emma over in the Tysons area. She's not the girl in the pictures, and definitely more of a bbw. But that's fine with me. She gave me the address info and I got to her professional studio. She went over a tour of all the services they provide and I'm not talking about the extras that we all go for. I got a tad concerned at that point. Anyway, she asked me what problem areas she should focus on. I got on the after she left the room and she came back to get started on the hour session. She did a pretty good job and successfully addressed my issues with my back. I was actually pretty impressed. About 15 minutes into it she lightly touched tickled my undercarriage which a nice. She revisited the area quite a few more times. After a while she encouraged me to flip. After that she dropped her top and put the nips in my mouth. She went down south and licked my joystick for a while which was nice. I got an almost bbj. She probably went about a 1/4 of the way down my cock. Felt fantastic but she then switched to HJ which was a bummer. But it was pretty good for an HJ and got the job done. I'm not sure if I'll repeat because I'm not sure that the menu will actually open up anymore and I hate coming back to see if more will happen. I prefer to be sure but that's just me.

    Face: 6.

    Body: 6 but bbw.

    HJ: 7.

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