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  1. #3260

    NPR is as centrist as you can get.

    Pervnerd48, you did a good job sir.

    RedTalon, NPR is as center as news reporting can get. They get attacked from both sides constantly. Furthermore, if NPR biases concern you then don't even bother with CNN, FOX or MSNBC. Just because you dislike to heard something it doesn't make it not true. We need a common truth, it is unacceptable to label every news fake or bias when is not convenient.

    Inflation and energy prices. I say get used to it because Putin will never let Ukraine tap into their gas / oil reserves and even less join NATO. I just learned the Donbas is part of those areas home to the new gas reserves and is a coincident the Russians are so adamant about that region.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTalon  [View Original Post]
    Pulled all that from biased media sources, lots of work for nothing. NPR, seriously? Biden is a walking gas bag on puppet strings.

  2. #3259

    Wow

    Quote Originally Posted by PervNerd48  [View Original Post]
    I'll take inflation. Someone else can take the others. (By the way, you demand stats for verification, but you keep saying "record" without showing your stats. For example, we're nowhere near record inflation- inflation rates in the 70's were far worse. Inflation happens in a capitalist economy.).

    There's a number of factors, very little to do with Biden (or rather Biden, a deadlocked Senate that lets him do very little, and a mostly Republican set of governors):

    * The war in the Ukraine has jacked up fuel prices, despite Biden releasing barrels from the strategic reserve. This one's going to take a while, and it's not going to end well. And now that Europe has decided to enter a partial embargo against Russian oil, gas prices are probably going to stay high, because there will be increased demand for the non-Russian fuel out there.).

    Source: https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...6a2f41b03b2ad4.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ns-2022-05-30/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/31/b...il-prices.html

    * We also had a severe supply chain crisis caused by a number of factors-.

    The pandemic, shutting down of overseas factories (especially chip factories, and since chip factories cost a fortune to build, and all of the supply lines are overseas, you can't snap your fingers and make it better).

    And shifts in demand.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/22/b...ply-chain.html

    https://www.computerworld.com/articl...p-quickly.html

    * Trump's failure to address the Chinese trade deficit (after the 2018 agreement, in which China pledged to increase the purchase of US goods and actually decreased said purchases).

    https://www.politico.com/newsletters...letdown-495705

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order...-hurt-america/

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...eement-exports

    https://reason.com/2022/02/09/trumps...the-trade-war/

    https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2...tually-deliver

    (The reason for so many links is that I wanted to show you that Trump's handling of China has been panned by everyone- left-wing sources like NPR, right-wing sources like Brookings and Fox Business, and libertarians like Reason.).

    * Housing prices are rising like crazy everywhere for a lot of reasons. Here in Jacksonville, we have a number of factors- rising population as people move away from colder areas of the US due to the increase in remote work, insufficient housing inventory to meet the demand due to not only the pandemic, but the lack of new housing starts since the crash of 2008, and a mostly hands-off local and state government who is more concerned about whether your kids are taught about black mathematicians and Disney not kissing the governor's ass than they are the one-year 30% increase in rents here. And hedge funds owning 25% of all single-family housing here is a big problem, because they're holding out for high rents and high sale prices, artificially driving up housing costs.

    And that rent increase doesn't just affect renters. Renters make up one-third of Jacksonville's population. Rent doesn't stay in Jacksonville. Most landlords of apartments and single-family dwellings are out-of-state. Those rent increases mean that more money is leaving Jacksonville, and not being spent in the local economy. Got a local business? You might own your home, but your business may be impacted by the lack of demand caused by the lack of local funds.

    https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/...last-10-years/

    https://www.jacksonville.com/story/n...w/15745028007/

    https://www.wokv.com/news/investigat...KKQ7A5TOC4IJM/

    https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/artic...-rent-increase

    https://www.news4jax.com/i-team/2022...n-the-country/

    https://www.npr.org/2022/03/29/10891...n-supply-chain

    https://www.freddiemac.com/research/...housing-supply

    Here's the good news: according to economists, the Fed's tightening of the money supply will lead to a drop in inflation over the next few months. Paul Krugman wrote about this here:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/27/o...agflation.html

    So there's a lot of factors for inflation, nearly none of which is Biden's fault. In fact, Biden is trying to get Congress to pass a number of initiatives to reduce inflation:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...g-the-deficit/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/b...smid=url-share

    The right is pressing him to do more. Some of this is pressing him to do things they know he won't or can't do, like busting truck driver unions and reversing some of the environmental policies he put into place:

    https://nypost.com/2022/05/11/what-b...ut-refuses-to/

    We'll see what happens. Remember, Biden, despite being painted as a left-winger, isn't really one. He's always been a centrist his entire career. But the Republicans smell blood, and want to see Democrats lose seats in the House and Senate in the midterms (just as Democrats want to gain seats), so they're going to block any efforts Biden takes to address inflation.

    So there you go. Did I give you enough sources and information?
    Pulled all that from biased media sources, lots of work for nothing. NPR, seriously? Biden is a walking gas bag on puppet strings.

  3. #3258
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1004
    Quote Originally Posted by BeachDan9999  [View Original Post]
    It really does. The liberal hypocrite I was referring to made a comment, and I paraphrase, stop why'all's political rants and then he goes into a political rant. The dems are such hypocrites. There is no way they can defend the policies, so they make personal attacks. There is none so blind that will not see.

    Point of information, you are not attacking their policies here, you are attacking them, you are literally doing exactly what you accuse them of.

    Just saying...

    A2
    He wasnt voted into office on false promies and empty hopes.

  4. #3257
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1004
    LOL.

    Here's my promise to you: If I'm elected president, I will always choose to unite rather than divide.

    I'll take responsibility instead of blaming others.

    I'll never forget that the job isn't about me — it's about you.

    Quote Originally Posted by PervNerd48  [View Original Post]
    I'll take inflation. Someone else can take the others. (By the way, you demand stats for verification, but you keep saying "record" without showing your stats. For example, we're nowhere near record inflation- inflation rates in the 70's were far worse. Inflation happens in a capitalist economy.).

    There's a number of factors, very little to do with Biden (or rather Biden, a deadlocked Senate that lets him do very little, and a mostly Republican set of governors):

    * The war in the Ukraine has jacked up fuel prices, despite Biden releasing barrels from the strategic reserve. This one's going to take a while, and it's not going to end well. And now that Europe has decided to enter a partial embargo against Russian oil, gas prices are probably going to stay high, because there will be increased demand for the non-Russian fuel out there.).

    Source: https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...6a2f41b03b2ad4.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ns-2022-05-30/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/31/b...il-prices.html

    * We also had a severe supply chain crisis caused by a number of factors-.

    The pandemic, shutting down of overseas factories (especially chip factories, and since chip factories cost a fortune to build, and all of the supply lines are overseas, you can't snap your fingers and make it better).

    And shifts in demand.

  5. #3256
    Quote Originally Posted by BeachDan9999  [View Original Post]
    Ok I'm all ears. Explain, support and defend record inflation, record gas prices, record homelessness, open borders, criminals not being prosecuted. I have two masters degrees. Please make an intelligent defense using stats. Not emotions. I'll be waiting.
    I'll take inflation. Someone else can take the others. (By the way, you demand stats for verification, but you keep saying "record" without showing your stats. For example, we're nowhere near record inflation- inflation rates in the 70's were far worse. Inflation happens in a capitalist economy.).

    There's a number of factors, very little to do with Biden (or rather Biden, a deadlocked Senate that lets him do very little, and a mostly Republican set of governors):

    * The war in the Ukraine has jacked up fuel prices, despite Biden releasing barrels from the strategic reserve. This one's going to take a while, and it's not going to end well. And now that Europe has decided to enter a partial embargo against Russian oil, gas prices are probably going to stay high, because there will be increased demand for the non-Russian fuel out there.).

    Source: https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...6a2f41b03b2ad4.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ns-2022-05-30/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/31/b...il-prices.html

    * We also had a severe supply chain crisis caused by a number of factors-.

    The pandemic, shutting down of overseas factories (especially chip factories, and since chip factories cost a fortune to build, and all of the supply lines are overseas, you can't snap your fingers and make it better).

    And shifts in demand.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/22/b...ply-chain.html

    https://www.computerworld.com/articl...p-quickly.html

    * Trump's failure to address the Chinese trade deficit (after the 2018 agreement, in which China pledged to increase the purchase of US goods and actually decreased said purchases).

    https://www.politico.com/newsletters...letdown-495705

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order...-hurt-america/

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...eement-exports

    https://reason.com/2022/02/09/trumps...the-trade-war/

    https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2...tually-deliver

    (The reason for so many links is that I wanted to show you that Trump's handling of China has been panned by everyone- left-wing sources like NPR, right-wing sources like Brookings and Fox Business, and libertarians like Reason.).

    * Housing prices are rising like crazy everywhere for a lot of reasons. Here in Jacksonville, we have a number of factors- rising population as people move away from colder areas of the US due to the increase in remote work, insufficient housing inventory to meet the demand due to not only the pandemic, but the lack of new housing starts since the crash of 2008, and a mostly hands-off local and state government who is more concerned about whether your kids are taught about black mathematicians and Disney not kissing the governor's ass than they are the one-year 30% increase in rents here. And hedge funds owning 25% of all single-family housing here is a big problem, because they're holding out for high rents and high sale prices, artificially driving up housing costs.

    And that rent increase doesn't just affect renters. Renters make up one-third of Jacksonville's population. Rent doesn't stay in Jacksonville. Most landlords of apartments and single-family dwellings are out-of-state. Those rent increases mean that more money is leaving Jacksonville, and not being spent in the local economy. Got a local business? You might own your home, but your business may be impacted by the lack of demand caused by the lack of local funds.

    https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/...last-10-years/

    https://www.jacksonville.com/story/n...w/15745028007/

    https://www.wokv.com/news/investigat...KKQ7A5TOC4IJM/

    https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/artic...-rent-increase

    https://www.news4jax.com/i-team/2022...n-the-country/

    https://www.npr.org/2022/03/29/10891...n-supply-chain

    https://www.freddiemac.com/research/...housing-supply

    Here's the good news: according to economists, the Fed's tightening of the money supply will lead to a drop in inflation over the next few months. Paul Krugman wrote about this here:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/27/o...agflation.html

    So there's a lot of factors for inflation, nearly none of which is Biden's fault. In fact, Biden is trying to get Congress to pass a number of initiatives to reduce inflation:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...g-the-deficit/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/b...smid=url-share

    The right is pressing him to do more. Some of this is pressing him to do things they know he won't or can't do, like busting truck driver unions and reversing some of the environmental policies he put into place:

    https://nypost.com/2022/05/11/what-b...ut-refuses-to/

    We'll see what happens. Remember, Biden, despite being painted as a left-winger, isn't really one. He's always been a centrist his entire career. But the Republicans smell blood, and want to see Democrats lose seats in the House and Senate in the midterms (just as Democrats want to gain seats), so they're going to block any efforts Biden takes to address inflation.

    So there you go. Did I give you enough sources and information?

  6. #3255
    Quote Originally Posted by TallBear  [View Original Post]
    Thank you, A2. Exactly so.

    To the dude who has now twice dismissed me as a "liberal hypocrite", yes, while there is little doubt that I am more politically progressive than you & some others here, replying to unwelcome political snark with political snark is returning fire, not hypocrisy.

    I did suggest taking it to The Woodshed.

    And I have not said anything personal at all. But if you honestly think I cannot explain, support & defend my politics, man, you are just a damn fool.

    But I don't know you & you don't know me. So there is an out. Might want to take it.
    Ok I'm all ears. Explain, support and defend record inflation, record gas prices, record homelessness, open borders, criminals not being prosecuted. I have two masters degrees. Please make an intelligent defense using stats. Not emotions. I'll be waiting.

  7. #3254

    Stop why'all's political rants

    Stop the condemnation and get a condom.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K9iraxOWCk

  8. #3253
    Thank you, A2. Exactly so.

    To the dude who has now twice dismissed me as a "liberal hypocrite", yes, while there is little doubt that I am more politically progressive than you & some others here, replying to unwelcome political snark with political snark is returning fire, not hypocrisy.

    I did suggest taking it to The Woodshed.

    And I have not said anything personal at all. But if you honestly think I cannot explain, support & defend my politics, man, you are just a damn fool.

    But I don't know you & you don't know me. So there is an out. Might want to take it.

    Quote Originally Posted by BeachDan9999  [View Original Post]
    It really does. The liberal hypocrite I was referring to made a comment, and I paraphrase, stop why'all's political rants and then he goes into a political rant. The dems are such hypocrites. There is no way they can defend the policies, so they make personal attacks. There is none so blind that will not see.

    Point of information, you are not attacking their policies here, you are attacking them, you are literally doing exactly what you accuse them of.

    Just saying...

    A2

  9. #3252

    As a point of fact

    Yes, in the jargon of actual political science, capitalism is considered "right wing" & socialism is "left wing". That is overly simplistic, to be sure. Modern systems based upon principles of representative democracy encompass elements of both. If "the center does not hold", "things fall apart". Totalitarian examples of the logical extremes, fascism & communism, should be self-evident to every thinking man on this board.

    Capitalism has been very good to me. But as a white man who came of age in South in the aftermath of the civil rights era, I know who tends to call themselves "conservative" vs. "progressive" ("liberal" is not a synonymous term, really, but I digress).

    I understand very well what an "insurrection" is. I understand what a "subversive" is too. I also understand that insurrectionists & subversives almost invariably call themselves the "true patriots" whose words & actions reflect the actual "will of the people".

    I'm ignoring the Fox News talking points. I get enough of that bullshit from my Republican Congressman, one of many who voted to undermine an American presidential election on the very night of the Republican Reichstag.

    Keep telling me I don't know what I know.

    Quote Originally Posted by WailOnSkydog  [View Original Post]
    So being a capitalist is right wing? Making profits is bad?

    Who ever hired you in your life?

    You're right. We haven't completely stopped production- just severely curtailed it. That way, we can buy energy from happy places like Venezuela, where I'm sure Maduro is sharing the wealth.

    President Teleprompter appreciates your support.

    Oh, do you know what an insurrection is? It's obvious that you don't.

    Wail On.

    Skydog.

  10. #3251
    Quote Originally Posted by DllsCwby  [View Original Post]
    100% everything they touch turns to shit.
    It really does. The liberal hypocrite I was referring to made a comment, and I paraphrase, stop why'all's political rants and then he goes into a political rant. The dems are such hypocrites. There is no way they can defend the policies, so they make personal attacks. There is none so blind that will not see.

    Point of information, you are not attacking their policies here, you are attacking them, you are literally doing exactly what you accuse them of.

    Just saying...

    A2

  11. #3250

    The whole world shutdown

    The US (25% of the world economy), China (19% EU and Japan. And basically everyone shut down. Even if we had stayed open there was no escape from economical upheaval. Incidentally UK inflation seems even higher than the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by WailOnSkydog  [View Original Post]
    You have no idea what you're talking about. The site you vouch for as a media fact checker is run by Dave Van Zandt. Who is a left-wing loon. He considers the WSJ to be "Right-wing". There's so much wrong with this site that it is comparable to Snopes.

    Regarding world-wide inflation. What is your point? When the world's largest energy producer (USA) shuts down production-the impact is worldwide. PMR (price margin realization) is in full effect across all sectors. Raw materials, refining processes, manufacturing, farming, fertilizers, transportation and warehousing all impacted.

    I encourage critical thinking. Now, where can I find some good pussy?

    Stay safe!

    Skydog.

  12. #3249

    Money in politics and lobbying

    I don't know about your anecdotes and personal attacks so I'll focus on the 3rd statement.

    Money in politics should be a no brainer by now just about everyone supports the idea (term limits, no more lobbying, and remove money from elections). Please research which party is blocking that progress for the last 10 years at the very least and reflect on it.

    In regards to abortion again, it is a bit unfair to ask them (democrats) to do anything when everyone knows (including yourself) anything divisive has zero chance in a 50-50 split senate.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTalon  [View Original Post]
    I'm old enough to remember back to the Carter administration. I was farming at that time and it was really, really bad. That being said, I've never seen an administration literally fuck up everything they touch. They keep touting the unemployment number, of course it's going to be low! You literally locked people out of where they worked for over a year, they are just going back to their jobs!

    Biden makes a statement in front of the world, the Whitehouse walks it back. Who is pulling his strings? He walks around like someone is sticking a huge key in his back and winding him up every few hours. Total gaffe machine, Carrie's notes for everything and still can't make coherent statements.

    If you put in term limits, let's say 2 for a senator and 4 for a state rep plus severely limit how much money they can make in office plus no lobbying when they are out that would help.

    Plus, it's all about poll numbers. If the abortion issue was so important, the Democrats could have introduced legislation on day one since they control of the house, senate and president. But, not a work was said until the public started gnashing their teeth about Roe. VS. Wade. Neither side is any good but I have heard a lot more crazy ass shit from Democrats over the Republicans.

  13. #3248

    Tin Foil Hat Alert

    Quote Originally Posted by TallBear  [View Original Post]
    In what universe is the Wall Street Journal not "right wing"? The WSJ has worn its conservative capitalist credentials proudly since I was kicking slats out of my crib. Yeah, WSJ dislikes the Tangerine Mussolini who just vacated the White House but that merely means they remain "thinking man's conservative". Being "right wing" has not always meant one is a neo-Confederate white supremacist, traitorous insurrectionist, outright fascist or Q-Anon crazy.

    But if that's the new standard (it's certainly the trend) then, sure, even the WSJ is "woke".

    The US has not, in fact, shut down oil & gas production, not by a long shot. Big Oil is still drilling, still pumping and still making a killing. No industry is better at exploiting global instability for maximum profit.

    Where is that windfall profits tax when we need it? Oh, that's right, Big Business strangled that baby in its crib after the OPEC embargo.
    So being a capitalist is right wing? Making profits is bad?

    Who ever hired you in your life?

    You're right. We haven't completely stopped production- just severely curtailed it. That way, we can buy energy from happy places like Venezuela, where I'm sure Maduro is sharing the wealth.

    President Teleprompter appreciates your support.

    Oh, do you know what an insurrection is? It's obvious that you don't.

    Wail On.

    Skydog.

  14. #3247

    Oh, FFS!

    In what universe is the Wall Street Journal not "right wing"? The WSJ has worn its conservative capitalist credentials proudly since I was kicking slats out of my crib. Yeah, WSJ dislikes the Tangerine Mussolini who just vacated the White House but that merely means they remain "thinking man's conservative". Being "right wing" has not always meant one is a neo-Confederate white supremacist, traitorous insurrectionist, outright fascist or Q-Anon crazy.

    But if that's the new standard (it's certainly the trend) then, sure, even the WSJ is "woke".

    The US has not, in fact, shut down oil & gas production, not by a long shot. Big Oil is still drilling, still pumping and still making a killing. No industry is better at exploiting global instability for maximum profit.

    Where is that windfall profits tax when we need it? Oh, that's right, Big Business strangled that baby in its crib after the OPEC embargo.

  15. #3246

    With All Due Respect.

    Quote Originally Posted by OnTime877  [View Original Post]
    Yep, with very few exceptions inflation is currently worldwide. Scroll down, use the drop down menu and check the graphs by county.

    https://www.ft.com/content/088d3368-...7-a7680d4d81b2

    And this is from a centrist, UK source with an excellent reputation for accuracy.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/financial-times/

    Stop letting Hannity and Tucker do your thinking for you, which is allowing your mind to be a propaganda receptacle.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/
    You have no idea what you're talking about. The site you vouch for as a media fact checker is run by Dave Van Zandt. Who is a left-wing loon. He considers the WSJ to be "Right-wing". There's so much wrong with this site that it is comparable to Snopes.

    Regarding world-wide inflation. What is your point? When the world's largest energy producer (USA) shuts down production-the impact is worldwide. PMR (price margin realization) is in full effect across all sectors. Raw materials, refining processes, manufacturing, farming, fertilizers, transportation and warehousing all impacted.

    I encourage critical thinking. Now, where can I find some good pussy?

    Stay safe!

    Skydog.

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