Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

[Regularity]

So many of these countries have such narrow definitions of what prostitution actually is that it doesn't cover what most people would define it as.

In Thailand, I don't actually understand what the legal definition of what is outlawed is. But almost annually, the chief of police in Pattaya goes to Soi 6 and after inspections declares there is no prostitution. And, that's never disagreed with by anyone, cause based on Thai's legal definition, it's apparently true?

In Japan, quips that I've read from multiple places, apparently paying a young lady for a blow job isn't prostitution, you actually have to have vaginal penetration?

Yes, in my experience, you can do anything in Japan except stick it in the hole. You can get a blow job, rub your dick on her pussy, etc. But you can't stick it in the hole. Like anyone is monitoring that.

[Meorme]

So many of these countries have such narrow definitions of what prostitution actually is that it doesn't cover what most people would define it as.

In Thailand, I don't actually understand what the legal definition of what is outlawed is. But almost annually, the chief of police in Pattaya goes to Soi 6 and after inspections declares there is no prostitution. And, that's never disagreed with by anyone, cause based on Thai's legal definition, it's apparently true?

In Japan, quips that I've read from multiple places, apparently paying a young lady for a blow job isn't prostitution, you actually have to have vaginal penetration?

Tier 1	Capital Punishment & Corporal Sanctions	Afghanistan, Iran, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Yemen	Death penalty (stoning/execution), public flogging/caning, or long-term imprisonment under Zina laws.
Tier 2	Multi-Year Imprisonment & Penal Labor	Cameroon, China, Kuwait, Malaysia, North Korea, Oman, Qatar, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Vietnam	Up to 510 years prison, forced labor/re-education camps, mandatory whipping, and forced deportation.
Tier 3	Direct Criminalization & Incarceration	Algeria, Bahrain, Belarus, Burundi, DRC, Egypt, Eritrea, Eswatini, Ethiopia, Iraq, Jordan, Kenya, Libya, Malawi, Morocco, Myanmar, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, Rwanda, Somalia, South Korea, South Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Turkmenistan, Uganda, Uzbekistan, Zimbabwe	Direct criminal records, arrests, and prison terms (6 months to 3+ years) specifically targeting the seller.
Tier 4	Indirect Criminalization / Restrictive Laws	Albania, Angola, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Cambodia, Chad, Croatia, Cuba, Georgia, Ghana, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Jamaica, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Lithuania, Madagascar, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Namibia, Nepal, North Macedonia, Papua New Guinea, Russia, Serbia, Sri Lanka, Tajikistan, Thailand, United States (49 states)	Restricted via loitering, vagrancy, or anti-solicitation laws. Punished via fines, misdemeanor records, or short jail terms.
Tier 5	Nordic / Neo-Abolitionist Model	Canada, France, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Norway, South Africa, Sweden, United Kingdom (Northern Ireland)	Zero penalty for selling sex. Law enforcement targets buyers (clients) and third-party organizers exclusively.
Tier 6	Decriminalized / Legal & Regulated	Argentina, Australia, Austria, Bangladesh, Belgium, Belize, Bolivia, Brazil, Bulgaria, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Greece, Guatemala, Honduras, Hungary, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Luxembourg, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Senegal, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey, United Kingdom (GB), Uruguay, Venezuela	Zero criminal penalties for selling sex. Recognized as formal labor subject to standard employment/tax frameworks or personal autonomy laws.

If you go to either Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy in Bangkok the police have a desk where girls have to show ID to enter and in Pattaya as far as I can see the 5000 working girls on Beach Road are not worried about the law.

In Qatar the desk clerk asked me if I wanted company.

In Cuba infidelity is the national sport. The guy who's watching out for her is usually her husband.

Cambodia has brothels with hundreds of women on the street in front of them.

Cairo has a massive red light district.

Look up Penthouse Strip club in Moscow.

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[Hoballer]

Over the summer I was attacked while walking one block from Aurora on my way home. I wasn't out looking for a date, merely returning home by myself from a night out with friends. A large young woman approached me and said she wanted to talk to me, when I declined two cars pulled-up and three men and the woman began to surround me. I realized that I was in trouble, while facing the men and creating distance the woman grabbed me from the back and pulled me to the ground (she was fucking huge), I responded by bounding-up from the ground and kicking her in the chest and then ran like hell. They tried to pursue but couldn't catch me, I ended-up taking cover face-down in someone's private yard until I felt safe enough to come out. I didn't bother with police because I wasn't sure I'd be taken seriously in that situation. In my mind all she had to do was say she was a sex worker (whether or not she actually was I have no idea) and things go down a different path and the kick wouldn't have helped. I'm not going through a court battle to prove my case while it's used as propaganda. That's just how I see it out there right now.

Aurora Avenue is just getting too dangerous at night now

[Admin2]

Aurora Avenue is just getting too dangerous at night now. Even Figueora Avenue doesn't have as much shootings lately. (Can even look it up now).

The problem is that the police in Seattle doesn't do anything effective and would rather target the adults who buy / sell versus the people putting bullets into walls.

People on both sides can get mad on the discussion of:

'uuuuu she should be allowed to sell, she's not a problem and is not a disturbance to the neighborhood even though she's having sex in a car in front of a family home / car or will eventually get more girls and therefore more pimps into an area'.

AND.

'uuuuuu she shouldn't be allowed to sell, she's a problem and is a distrubance even though she's an adult that you will probably see one time a day and will most likely 99% of the time not disturb you since you don't live in Auroara Avenue'.

No matter what side you are on, both sides can flat out agree that they'd rather have the police go out and jail the people who are doing actual violent crimes. The fact that no one got arrested for the strip club shooting + the one where it was a 20 second gunfight is insane.

Decriminalize sex work and then they don't have to work in those neighborhoods.

[TheDudeGuy1]

Aurora Avenue is just getting too dangerous at night now. Even Figueora Avenue doesn't have as much shootings lately. (Can even look it up now).

The problem is that the police in Seattle doesn't do anything effective and would rather target the adults who buy / sell versus the people putting bullets into walls.

People on both sides can get mad on the discussion of:

'uuuuu she should be allowed to sell, she's not a problem and is not a disturbance to the neighborhood even though she's having sex in a car in front of a family home / car or will eventually get more girls and therefore more pimps into an area'.

AND.

'uuuuuu she shouldn't be allowed to sell, she's a problem and is a distrubance even though she's an adult that you will probably see one time a day and will most likely 99% of the time not disturb you since you don't live in Auroara Avenue'.

No matter what side you are on, both sides can flat out agree that they'd rather have the police go out and jail the people who are doing actual violent crimes. The fact that no one got arrested for the strip club shooting + the one where it was a 20 second gunfight is insane.

[Morgan Creamin]

Not ranting.

Jacksons has the right to do whatever whatever he wants. It is his site.

What happened to 3 putt? He had good info and I am sure over the years we unknowingly became Eskimo Bros.

He did exactly what I did the last two times I got yelled at, he called out pimps on the board and got banned for it.

Yes, this is his site and he can do what he wants but that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do for the real contributors here. I'll probably get banned for this post as well but calling out pimps and shills should not be punished because the report option can take a long time to get a post removed and calling out dishonest posters can maybe save one of us some headaches in the meantime.

[BigDumper]

With all the shooting in the past few days on Aurora Ave it seems the gang bangers are trying hard to get the cops to do even more then they already are. At the end of the day it's us that will face the brunt of this stupid shit. Makes me wonder what the cops will do next if the shootings keep happening. I know they won't go after the poor "victims" out there.

[VikVaughanKon]

tna was blocked by yahoo mail and TNA's answer to fix my account is to upload a photo id? fucking bullshit

[TheRealSG]

Not ranting.

Jacksons has the right to do whatever whatever he wants. It is his site.

What happened to 3 putt? He had good info and I am sure over the years we unknowingly became Eskimo Bros.

[TheRealSG]

It blows my mind how many former providers become super religious when they get their shit together. Like they didn't like religion at all before but now it's all Jesus this and Jesus that. They are still beholden to something. It's like religion becomes their new addiction and they judge others for not believing. These are people I've blown at least 20 loads into, many of them more. I'm grateful they improved their lives but they still can't seem to think for themselves. I always thought stopping providing and dealing with their addictions would be freeing. Yet they choose a path that is pre thought out.

Tell me about it. One found jesus, dumped me, retired and got married.

I am happy for her now.

[SkeletonKey6]

If a monger ever pisses off the wrong people in power in any of those countries it is worth knowing what their laws Technically state if / when said monger has the proverbial book thrown at him.

Tier 1	Capital Punishment & Corporal Sanctions	Afghanistan, Iran, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Yemen	Death penalty (stoning/execution), public flogging/caning, or long-term imprisonment under Zina laws.
Tier 2	Multi-Year Imprisonment & Penal Labor	Cameroon, China, Kuwait, Malaysia, North Korea, Oman, Qatar, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Vietnam	Up to 510 years prison, forced labor/re-education camps, mandatory whipping, and forced deportation.
Tier 3	Direct Criminalization & Incarceration	Algeria, Bahrain, Belarus, Burundi, DRC, Egypt, Eritrea, Eswatini, Ethiopia, Iraq, Jordan, Kenya, Libya, Malawi, Morocco, Myanmar, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, Rwanda, Somalia, South Korea, South Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Turkmenistan, Uganda, Uzbekistan, Zimbabwe	Direct criminal records, arrests, and prison terms (6 months to 3+ years) specifically targeting the seller.
Tier 4	Indirect Criminalization / Restrictive Laws	Albania, Angola, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Cambodia, Chad, Croatia, Cuba, Georgia, Ghana, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Jamaica, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Lithuania, Madagascar, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Namibia, Nepal, North Macedonia, Papua New Guinea, Russia, Serbia, Sri Lanka, Tajikistan, Thailand, United States (49 states)	Restricted via loitering, vagrancy, or anti-solicitation laws. Punished via fines, misdemeanor records, or short jail terms.
Tier 5	Nordic / Neo-Abolitionist Model	Canada, France, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Norway, South Africa, Sweden, United Kingdom (Northern Ireland)	Zero penalty for selling sex. Law enforcement targets buyers (clients) and third-party organizers exclusively.
Tier 6	Decriminalized / Legal & Regulated	Argentina, Australia, Austria, Bangladesh, Belgium, Belize, Bolivia, Brazil, Bulgaria, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Greece, Guatemala, Honduras, Hungary, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Luxembourg, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Senegal, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey, United Kingdom (GB), Uruguay, Venezuela	Zero criminal penalties for selling sex. Recognized as formal labor subject to standard employment/tax frameworks or personal autonomy laws.

If you go to either Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy in Bangkok the police have a desk where girls have to show ID to enter and in Pattaya as far as I can see the 5000 working girls on Beach Road are not worried about the law.

In Qatar the desk clerk asked me if I wanted company.

In Cuba infidelity is the national sport. The guy who's watching out for her is usually her husband.

Cambodia has brothels with hundreds of women on the street in front of them.

Cairo has a massive red light district.

Look up Penthouse Strip club in Moscow.

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[ScotchYoke]

I've been using textfree for a long time. Its now app-only which I dislike because for a long, long time it allowed a web interface which was convenient.

Up until quite recently, I had been using the Hushed app for my hobby communications. I noticed early this morning it has somehow stopped working. I can't really get another phone for various reasons, so I'm asking are there any apps you guys like? I don't want to delete hushed just yet because all the contacts I've saved are there and not in my regular contacts.

Ended up contacting the Hushed customer support and they worked through and fixed the issue, which ended up being on their end. Good enough for me to continue with them. Thanks for your recommendation, VVK.

[VikVaughanKon]

I've been using textfree for a long time. Its now app-only which I dislike because for a long, long time it allowed a web interface which was convenient.

[ScotchYoke]

Up until quite recently, I had been using the Hushed app for my hobby communications. I noticed early this morning it has somehow stopped working. I can't really get another phone for various reasons, so I'm asking are there any apps you guys like? I don't want to delete hushed just yet because all the contacts I've saved are there and not in my regular contacts.

[SkeletonKey6]

Baby, before you go. I hate to ask, I really do, but could you maybe help me out with my phone bill? Rent's due Tuesday, and I don't know what I'm going to do!
Honey lovin's, you know I want to. I would in a heart beat, but they've made that a felony, now! I would pay the whole damn thing for ya, but they'd AI my VenMo and be marching me out of work in handcuffs by this afternoon. You don't want me to go to prison, do ya, baby?

Tier 1	Capital Punishment & Corporal Sanctions	Afghanistan, Iran, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Yemen	Death penalty (stoning/execution), public flogging/caning, or long-term imprisonment under Zina laws.
Tier 2	Multi-Year Imprisonment & Penal Labor	Cameroon, China, Kuwait, Malaysia, North Korea, Oman, Qatar, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Vietnam	Up to 510 years prison, forced labor/re-education camps, mandatory whipping, and forced deportation.
Tier 3	Direct Criminalization & Incarceration	Algeria, Bahrain, Belarus, Burundi, DRC, Egypt, Eritrea, Eswatini, Ethiopia, Iraq, Jordan, Kenya, Libya, Malawi, Morocco, Myanmar, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, Rwanda, Somalia, South Korea, South Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Turkmenistan, Uganda, Uzbekistan, Zimbabwe	Direct criminal records, arrests, and prison terms (6 months to 3+ years) specifically targeting the seller.
Tier 4	Indirect Criminalization / Restrictive Laws	Albania, Angola, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Cambodia, Chad, Croatia, Cuba, Georgia, Ghana, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Jamaica, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Lithuania, Madagascar, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Namibia, Nepal, North Macedonia, Papua New Guinea, Russia, Serbia, Sri Lanka, Tajikistan, Thailand, United States (49 states)	Restricted via loitering, vagrancy, or anti-solicitation laws. Punished via fines, misdemeanor records, or short jail terms.
Tier 5	Nordic / Neo-Abolitionist Model	Canada, France, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Norway, South Africa, Sweden, United Kingdom (Northern Ireland)	Zero penalty for selling sex. Law enforcement targets buyers (clients) and third-party organizers exclusively.
Tier 6	Decriminalized / Legal & Regulated	Argentina, Australia, Austria, Bangladesh, Belgium, Belize, Bolivia, Brazil, Bulgaria, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Greece, Guatemala, Honduras, Hungary, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Luxembourg, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Senegal, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey, United Kingdom (GB), Uruguay, Venezuela	Zero criminal penalties for selling sex. Recognized as formal labor subject to standard employment/tax frameworks or personal autonomy laws.

If you go to either Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy in Bangkok the police have a desk where girls have to show ID to enter and in Pattaya as far as I can see the 5000 working girls on Beach Road are not worried about the law.

In Qatar the desk clerk asked me if I wanted company.

In Cuba infidelity is the national sport. The guy who's watching out for her is usually her husband.

Cambodia has brothels with hundreds of women on the street in front of them.

Cairo has a massive red light district.

Look up Penthouse Strip club in Moscow.

A2