Sugar Daddy Sites

[Lexx1]

I was in my late 20's and I viewed SA as a leg up on everyone else. On tinder / hinge I did get dates but I was competing with other younger or similar age guys who were potentially also good looking. The leg up on SA was I was competing with old guys who were probably below avg to ugly on looks who might or might not have money. Meanwhile I was younger / had money and looked better than 99% of those guys.

But I can tell you I've fucked a ton of girls on SA for no money at all. From Asians, to white to Hispanic. Typically I'd get most women to accept around 200.

Now I can't say it's been perfect. There was one Norwegian girl who I caved and paid a decent amount to over a 3 month period. Everyone once in a while a unicorn comes into your life and you just give in. She was 5'4 athletic thick, great natural but perky rack. Kim K ass that felt like pillows and moved like water. This girl had an 8/10 face and I met my match.

This happens. Although in my 20's and 30's, when I wasn't in a relationship. I'd be out hittin clubs, bars, etc. Hooking up with chics. Not online. Just out and about in public. And mackin on chics in public I'd find attractive. I'm a handsome dude still. But not a pretty boy. I used to lift weights back then. But have taken a break from it for a long while. Just try and watch what I eat now. And some simple exercises. Being in decent shape and reasonable good looks helps in the sugar game. It just gets a little harder as you age.

[Dsteezy]

Yea, see how often you get one of these right? I know I can't prove it, but I know my dumb ass friend's sugar baby is definitely not seeing his ass exclusively, call it a hunch if you may. The type of feeling that when I go to AMP I know they are faking to like my mug, but why ruin the illusion and just have fun right? But when you see the sugar baby side, and this girl is like affectionate and all the cringe public shit, I am like dude, she is putting on an act, I don't care what you say.

I've actually had a few live in "arrangements. " Or arrangements that progressed naturally after about 2-3 months. Had a spinner white girl close to 5 feet live with me for over 2 years, at the time she no longer wanted an arrangement and just wanted to continue having fun. She would come over every other day for months, one day she talked about her lease ending (she probably knew what she was doing). So I suggested she live in one of the 2 spare bedrooms I had in my townhome.

During that time she cooked, cleaned, washed my clothes and took care of the house. The only expense I took on was I'd typically buy the usual groceries and if there was something special she wanted she would buy it. I traveled and invite her along if her schedule allowed. She would pay her own flight and some of the food she had out there plus if there were souvenirs. It was all fun and easy, I still was on hinge / tinder and SA and during the time she lived with me. Brought girls over to fuck and she wouldn't say anything or get upset.

I was in my late 20's and I viewed SA as a leg up on everyone else. On tinder / hinge I did get dates but I was competing with other younger or similar age guys who were potentially also good looking. The leg up on SA was I was competing with old guys who were probably below avg to ugly on looks who might or might not have money. Meanwhile I was younger / had money and looked better than 99% of those guys.

But I can tell you I've fucked a ton of girls on SA for no money at all. From Asians, to white to Hispanic. Typically I'd get most women to accept around 200.

Now I can't say it's been perfect. There was one Norwegian girl who I caved and paid a decent amount to over a 3 month period. Everyone once in a while a unicorn comes into your life and you just give in. She was 5'4 athletic thick, great natural but perky rack. Kim K ass that felt like pillows and moved like water. This girl had an 8/10 face and I met my match.

[CaddyShack1975]

So I am newb and just wanted to know how long each ppm lasts.

2-4 hours is what all the girls have told me. While I haven't pulled the trigger on meeting one of the good girls yet bc it's kind of a hassle getting a room during the day, and I've also just met with Hx girls instead. They have wanted $300-700 for a meet. While $300-$500 is pretty good hourly for a meet, 80% of these girls have such and out of whack view of themselves for price / looks / service offered. I had a 61 year old want 400-500 dollars, I mean, WTF. Another wanted $500 condoms and no BJ. Some are chunky that want 3-500 condom only that I could probably fuck for free on the street.

I'm a newb too but these prices are laughable when you can get the same service for an incall that is at least $100 cheaper and you don't have to get a room.

[Lexx1]

Yea, see hosting it is something completely out of the question for me as a whole. I very much enjoy my privacy to just open myself for that kind of intrusion, plus I don't live in a gated community or anything that just sounds like a hassle of things goes sideways.

I like my privacy too once the meet up is done. When the meet up is going. I don't see it as an intrusion. It's more comfortable and fun for me at my place. Plus it saves the expense of a hotel room. And girls are usually cool with it. Instead of being seen entering and exiting a hotel room which is obviously for a fuck meet. I don't give a fuck going in and out of a hotel room. But the girl might especially if she's young and with an older dude. So my place is more discreet and private than all that. And I've never had any issues with a girl coming to my place unexpectedly or something going wrong during meet. That can happen with a real girlfriend that doesn't live with you already. But these aren't real girlfriends. So once the meet is over. We go our separate ways.

[Vevor12]

If your friend is giving one SB $3 k a month, he is NOT a sugar daddy. He is a simp. Now if that's what he wants to do and be, that's his choice. But as long as we are differentiating between prostitutes, escorts, and sugar babies, we should use the same level of scrutiny for the other side of the equation.

Trust me, because I know the fuker for years I called him every name on the book to ask him to snap out of the shit. Yea he is definilty a simp status, the girl is not anything crazy beautiful or w / e. White meat sure but there are plenty of them around. Yea I don't know man, I told him that he is overpaying and he think he is getting exclusivity and "wins her heart" his words.

[Vevor12]

You have to set the expectation of time spent in your initial negotiations. I expect a minimum of 2 hours each meet up. On average I spend 2 to 4 hours each meet up. Overnights can be discussed separately. Each girl is different of what they can accommodate. Sometimes I'll have a quick car meetup just for head. Those are quickies and around an hour. Sometimes we fuck in those car meet ups too. After the fuck meet if she wants to hang out for whatever. Say just chill or grab a bite to eat. That's up to her.

Yea, see hosting it is something completely out of the question for me as a whole. I very much enjoy my privacy to just open myself for that kind of intrusion, plus I don't live in a gated community or anything that just sounds like a hassle of things goes sideways.

[Vevor12]

Think these questions were brought up already very recently. Look back a few pages. Pricing can be all over the place in LA. Usual bare minimum is 200 and can go up to 1000. My hard max is 500. But I rarely go there. I can go higher than 500 but why? I usually hover between 200 to 400 ppm. I don't fly out at all or fly girls in. I stick to LA county, North OC and the IE. I drive to my girls, if they're far, and either get a hotel near them. Or if nearby my house in LA. I pick them up and bring them over.

As for gifts, etc. I'll gift some things sometimes to a girl. Not often and not right away. It's mostly the cash. Girls I see usually need that and can do as they please with it.

Thanks for the quick run down, I'll be flipping through the pages of knowledge after I reply this one.

500 hard limit huh that's not too bad, 1000 is pushing pass beyond even for my crazy spending at times. How my dumb ass friend spurge 3-4 k a month is still well beyond my comprehension. 200-400 is pretty much a standard AMP visit to a very good AMP visit LOL those numbers I get.

[Lexx1]

If your friend is giving one SB $3 k a month, he is NOT a sugar daddy. He is a simp. Now if that's what he wants to do and be, that's his choice. But as long as we are differentiating between prostitutes, escorts, and sugar babies, we should use the same level of scrutiny for the other side of the equation.

I didn't want to go there. LOL But can also say paypig to an extent. But yeah simp is good as well. Some dudes want to be paypigs. Another form of them being submissive to a chic. Not me man.

[SecondLove]

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[Lexx1]

I'm curious, how to you approach discussing a car meet for a SB? I'll do that with a pro because they're used to that question, but with a civilian SB on seeking or SDM it seems like a more sketch conversation that would throw them off and doxx you as being a hobbyist. You don't get any pushback from that conversation?

LOL Never any push back. You just have to know how to ask. Since these girls should be new to the p4 p world and naive / innocent. They shouldn't know about "hobbyists" mongers and that world. So they don't see anything wrong with doing that. Civies don't make out in cars and fuck around in them? Of course they do. It's something normal. That's the way you have to see it. For some girls it's kinky too and they're totally down for it. I've had all kinds of action go down in my ride and take video too. Usually 8 to 9 out of 10 girls are totally fine with it. The one that may be iffy is just worried about privacy in the car. But I always reassure I have tinted windows, shades to put up for the front windows and park in a secluded spot.

[Godre737]

You have to set the expectation of time spent in your initial negotiations. I expect a minimum of 2 hours each meet up. On average I spend 2 to 4 hours each meet up. Overnights can be discussed separately. Each girl is different of what they can accommodate. Sometimes I'll have a quick car meetup just for head. Those are quickies and around an hour. Sometimes we fuck in those car meet ups too. After the fuck meet if she wants to hang out for whatever. Say just chill or grab a bite to eat. That's up to her.

I'm curious, how to you approach discussing a car meet for a SB? I'll do that with a pro because they're used to that question, but with a civilian SB on seeking or SDM it seems like a more sketch conversation that would throw them off and doxx you as being a hobbyist. You don't get any pushback from that conversation?

[Grail47]

Think these questions were brought up already very recently. Look back a few pages. Pricing can be all over the place in LA. Usual bare minimum is 200 and can go up to 1000. My hard max is 500. But I rarely go there. I can go higher than 500 but why? I usually hover between 200 to 400 ppm. I don't fly out at all or fly girls in. I stick to LA county, North OC and the IE. I drive to my girls, if they're far, and either get a hotel near them. Or if nearby my house in LA. I pick them up and bring them over.

As for gifts, etc. I'll gift some things sometimes to a girl. Not often and not right away. It's mostly the cash. Girls I see usually need that and can do as they please with it.

I'm pretty much aligned with Lexx regarding this aspects of SB / SD dating. I also don't fly out or fly anyone to me. And since I can host easily, all my meet ups have been here at my place, with the exception of getting a hotel for one SB in Whittier that I briefly saw. I also don't mind picking her up or driving her back home later, especially when they live close, or I've ordered an Uber. I haven't had any requests for gifts and haven't provided any, other than drinks here and ordering in dinner occasionally for us.

[Lexx1]

So how long does each ppm last usually? Given it starts from hotel?

You have to set the expectation of time spent in your initial negotiations. I expect a minimum of 2 hours each meet up. On average I spend 2 to 4 hours each meet up. Overnights can be discussed separately. Each girl is different of what they can accommodate. Sometimes I'll have a quick car meetup just for head. Those are quickies and around an hour. Sometimes we fuck in those car meet ups too. After the fuck meet if she wants to hang out for whatever. Say just chill or grab a bite to eat. That's up to her.

[Grail47]

So how long does each ppm last usually? Given it starts from hotel?

It depends, as I usually chat with my SB about how much time she has to spare, what else is on her schedule for the day, etc. They're usually pretty upfront about "I have work in a few hours" or "I have dinner plans 8 pm, so I can visit you at 6 pm and stay until then". Of course, since I live alone and can host I'm not having to deal with hotel time frames. I've also had a few SB's specifically ask me how much time I wanted to spend together and I'll answer around an hour and a half.

[Kaphio0918]

So I am newb and just wanted to know how long each ppm lasts.