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  1. #156
    When HYA leave OC, I sometimes join the Drive to COI club. If you avoid rush hour traffic it's like 40 minutes drive. For those interested, this is the thread and one COI guide:
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...p-Club-Reports City of Industry Strip Club Thread
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7168461 White girls at COI

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    If you don't mind to drive to City of Industry, you can be in the door and have a girl on your lap in minutes. 9pm or 10pm is a good time to start, either Spearmint Rhino (classy girls) or Synn (tiny skinny girls). Paradise if you like cheap and thick girls (do not go if you don't). Strip clubs are very beginner friendly, so I recommend them to friends visiting from out of town who don't have time to invest in HX or korgs.
    I mainly know night shift for the clubs, but occasionally I've visited for dayshift. Spearmint Rhino in COI if you like classy girls. Synn if you like Team7 tiny girls or girls who probably do more for a tip. I told a friend it is a non-stop fuck fest and he asked "But isn't it just rumors?" Sure, I guess it's better if people think that.

    I'll link to some guides at the end but this is just to give a sample of how things are. COI is a good option if you are into non-Asians or just enjoy the thrill of pointing out the hottest girl and taking her to VIP for more.

    Even the black girls at SR are classy and they know it. Whereas Synn is more 'anything goes' with mostly skinny girls of all races. Unlike Spearmint Rhino where most girls are happy to give a straight dance, I have had Synn girls hop off my lap and walk off when I told them I wasn't looking to bang them in VIP:

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    ..at Spearmint Rhino the girls there will tend to give you a solid straight dance without expecting a bang every time. It's a huge difference between the two clubs. I still go Synn because they have a lot more skinny girls.

    A lot of the Synn girls are more transactional expecting or demanding action for tip. I wrote how I asked Synn Safari for VIP and she was about to go but then stopped me and asked if I was gonna get anything back there. I said no I just want a dance, and she hopped off of me and said she doesn't do dances. She is normally an escort so she expects it here.
    The reason Safari approached me in the first place was I was the only guy during her stage tipping. I sat at the rail where she could wave her beautiful young Asian pussy inches from my face, her legs planted to my left and right so that I could get a good preview. She knows her job. Most guys don't sit at the rail because you're expected to throw some 1s. Just 3-5 is enough to be polite imo. More if you think her preview was special or you really want her attention. But don't overtip, there's pros and cons with tipping a 2nd or 3rd round.

    If you were the only guy there and she doesn't spot her regulars, she'll probably approach you if the two of you vibe. To me, it's a good way to do pick a girl because if the girl doesn't like me for any reason, she won't come up to me after stage. She'll do me a favor that way, because I only want a girl who is motivated to meet me for a "second interview" where I'm sitting. At this interview, feeling out the vibe of a girl on the floor is key to avoiding most misunderstandings in VIP. I don't pick a girl just because she's hot, she needs to have the right attitude and vibe or I wont' take her VIP. You can dodge GPS girls best this way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    Synn Safari approached me straight after her stage because I sat at the rail and tipped her and interacted with her. I prefer this way because girls are more motivated and it's easy to feel out her Vibe. Including cases like above - I appreciate she was straightforward and honest so we both saved each other time and money.
    She did me a favor by being upfront. She wanted to bang for tips and that's fair, but I wasn't committed to it. So we weren't a good fit. I probably would have since she was a hot young Asian, but I also don't like girls who are too pushy about it because it could lead to GPS quotes or negotiation. Girls also do you a favor when you tip their stage and they don't go and find you on the floor. It means they have some other regular, so move on. It is a fishing expedition and you don't catch a fish every throw. By moving on and trying again, I've had many successes and happy times.

    For that reason, don't pick a girl just because she is hot. She has to pass the vibe test on the floor. If you see a girl go up to stage and she is your type, by all means go to her rail and tip. About working the tip rail, this is my approach:

    Working the Rail
    So what luck, I walked into a COI club and immediately discovered White Bona. Team7 material there, skinny and tiny. Just different race and body over face. She gets on stage, and I know how it is - nobody goes to the tip rail because they are holding on to every dollar. But I know how to get things done at a strip club. I go up and toss some 1s. Just five is enough, then I lean forward for it. I'm the only guy so she pretty much has to wave her pussy inches from my face. Happily mind you, easiest thing in the world for these girls it's their sell chance for the main course. Mmmm Hmmm, white pussy is the cure for white fever. The stage is very well lit mind you, so I get a real good look when she was an inch from my nose asking if I want more. So I decide, this is the best pussy I've seen in a long time. Which is quite a statement coming from me. I know this is a petting zoo, but I have to negotiate for things later, so I make a tactical retreat. I pull back early and go to my seat with the others, even though her stage hasn't finished yet. Like I wasn't that interested. Makes negotiation later a snap.

    The key here is many girls will approach me after I do this. But I take very few of them to VIP, I try to be selective with my interviews. Don't pick a girl just because she's hot. Vibe check her on the floor, make sure she has the right attitude and motivation. Spearmint Rhino has a different approach, the girls are classier and a more relaxed vibe.

    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7525159 COI 1
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7528302 COI 2
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7529052 COI 3

    Quick warning / suggestion about Paradise. If you love big, thick, or fat girls go straight there. If not, skip it.
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7617708 COI Paradise PSA

    ..I reviewed Paradise long ago, the first girl I saw was a 350 pound stripper. She crawled up to the one guy at the rail and turned around so he could slap her ass hard. It echoed. I never forget such a unique experience not possible at other clubs.

    I am not joking. I posted my review to tuscl and the COI thread long ago. I still can't forget it. Whereas, my very first two strippers I met at SR Rhino were Melanie (now Synn) and Athena (now retired). Melanie is a top tier nympho, she loves sex even more than the guys that see her. Never seen anything like it. I think she works Synn every week or so still. Athena was a Team7 half-Mexican cutie. It reminds me of guys who saw Nali or Lizza as their very first kgirls. It can raise expectations too much and then it's all downhill from there.

    I don't know if SR Teddy is still at Spearmint Rhino, but she was my type and had great natural tits. If you are a Scarlet Witch / Elizabeth Olsen fan, you should see her. The resemblance is pretty good. I repeat her just for her Face and Tits alone. Full bodied, very sweet and down to earth girl. She is more than happy to smother you with her tits and let you go at it.
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...4&d=1728712062 Spearmint Rhino Teddy
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7185858 Synn Nami (Team7 HYA)

    I don't have time to do lookalike guides but I have a few saved up. So a quick preview, I will use influencer Michellefromchina as a Lookalike for Baby Bonnie. If you like young, tanned, college-aged girls, you might like her. Her young body and pussy are her strong points.

    Baby Bonnie - Maybe 5'3", C or D MMs, round and hard tits, tanned, skin is great. Young, body over face. Her body and pussy look and feel young. Skinny waist, arms and legs a bit thick like Sherry K. Skills good for HYA, DTF if you bring the service. Very submissive. Pussy high tier. Resembles Michellefromchina but with big tits.

    People always compare every girl to Rayne. But Rayne is an outlier. Compare her with the 2nd or 3rd best girl, now that Danbi and Subin are gone. I think Baby Bonnie is somewhere from 2nd to 5th place for HYA Hunters, depending on your preference. Some guys don't like tanned girls or need a certain look or type, so if you have any doubts just leave her to the true fans. We'll take care of her instead.

    The photo model is not far off, but Bonnie's hair is long and straight. Very nice waist and ass too. Other than waist, not skinny or thick (somewhere near Sherry K imo). Since some guys have high expectations, I should say to expect HYA level service and to bring some service. Young body and pussy are main appeal, face is GND. Sweet girl with a sweet smile but it is up to taste. I'd rather scare off high expectation guys than invite too many. GFE only and back 8/11.

    Baby Bonnie is not hard to get along with imo if you are a HYA Hunter already. If you aren't, I really don't know until more people give me feedback on their experience.

    Pricing
    Attached is my Rankings around 30th to 60th place. When I compare notes with other HYA Hunters, our lists do not look the same. They rank some girls higher, they some girls lower. But it's not by much. It's usually a +/- 1 difference in grade rather than a 2-4 difference when comparing with a Service Hunter who has opposite taste. I can even predict half our differences. For a guy who strongly prefers young, they rank up the young girls even more than me. Or if they don't like spinners, then drop them all a grade at least. After adjusting for that, our difference is only +/- 1/2 Tier 80% of the time. Either way, I can simply see every girl he likes and never lose. If he thinks a girl is A or B, I don't mind if she ends up C. I'm completely immune to aunties because he doesn't like a single one. Only young and/or hot girls.

    More than a year ago I compared my list with Boner's and 80% of our girls were exactly the same tier. The main difference, it was a girl who actually got better by 1 Tier according to her regulars (she lost 10 pounds). Either way, 80%-100% +/- 0 Tiers was shocking and probably a bit of it was just coincidence / luck. It's how I knew I could just use Boner's List.

    Boner's List is about a compassionate man who took pity and saved as many HYA Hunters as he could. His only regret is that he couldn't save more. It is a key document for The Resistance.

    But many people cannot use Boner's list. Only 15% to 30% can, depending on how safe you want to play it. Full HYA Hunters who like wide variety can, but not Premium Hunters or guys who are picky or want to dodge even the hot pre-MILFs. For that reason, I try to label preMilfs them but I can't always tell. But you can see them labeled in the attachment.

    One new field I labeled is pricing. Notice Lani and Laurent are GFE+, since I saw them at 400 hr GFE even though prices do change. But a price change does not affect my Looks or Service rating of them. Just their Value and repeatability. BB and GFE mean 300-380 HR. BB+ and GFE+ mean 400-480 HR, and so on. So MH Lily and Chanel3 were both 700 HR bb for BB+++. I'm happy to see both of them the same way I'd pay for a vaction one time. But, I don't repeat those vacations due to cost.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Michelle vs Baby Bonnie 01.jpg‎   Rank from 30th.jpg‎  

  2. #155
    I've already mentioned Maru and other girls who are back previous post. You can do a search for Baby Cheney and Baby Bonnie reviews, both are listed in previous udpates. They are what we have left from the 13 LA hotties of last month.

    The girls below are hot to me and fun to me. They might not be to you. Most people can still use the descriptions to look for Dealbreakers and Dealmakers.

    OC
    Subin - DDG like a model. Very skinny, short black hair, 5'4", C or D tits, tits look and feel great, good nipples too, white skin, skinny waist, good hips and ass. Ideal hip to ass contrast. Breast shape is what I like, good for cupping from behind or when she leans over you for 2nd bbbj. She is beautiful head to toe. Important: Looks over Service, GFE only. Limited English but no trouble communicating with basic words. Very sensual, she has a routine so I would follow it and then take over later when you think it's right. Would repeat. Speaks some conversational Chinese. Improves on repeats.

    Jenny K (KDC) - Has good looks and service, Service and Vibe are strongest points. Good appeal for most Spinner Hunters who want tits and ass. Very good attitude, good skills, dtf. 5'1", usually in a very short skirt and pleaser heels, C or D MMs, about 30, baby face, petite with good figure. Nice ass, very round tits, soft nipples that point. Ad photo gives a good idea with light PS. Seems to love it all.

    You can sometimes ask her to keep her heels on for start of play (mirror and bed height support this).

    Olivia - Very skinny and tiny girl, full Team7 with perfect body proportions. Petite, very skinny, white skin, 5'1" or 5'2", B or C MMs, long black hair with curls. Pussy is very good. Body feels great to hold. Her skills have improved over time. Good bbbj skills, routine includes some good balls licking. A bit sassy, has a tattoo. Her body appeal is similar to Baby Sol and FA Jira. Speaks some conversational Chinese. Pussy is good and she enjoys sex. Easy repeat for me, 50 bb for those who need it.

    Genuine person, sassy, like a real girlfriend. Body is in great shape, and she is probably the skinniest girl in OC.

    Shelby is mult-booker now. If you are not screened with FA you can use Get9 or Kbeauty etc.. to see her. 260-hh 280-45 320-hr. Note she is msog included. Free msog is rare these days but that's always been the case for me and others for years. Oral skills are superb, she is also a master of P2P. She understands men well, very good English, high Service. Tall and womanly body. She taught me many of the skills I later taught HYA.

    Prada - Tall, about 5'7", white skin, good normal sized tits, well proportioned not fat or skinny. 30s, good looks, good round ass. She warms up slow - she has a mellow vibe but really gets into it during the action. Gets pretty naughty over time, loves to watch the action in the mirror sometimes. Good skill, DTF, enjoys sex. Good massage. Pussy is especially good. She tried to rim me but I stopped her in time. She is good looking enough to cure my ED. Decent English, not for deep conversation but no problem communicating. Ad has PS as usual but it's her and gives a good idea on her tall body.

    I'll emphasize her service starts slow and warms up, gets much better. Same spec as Baby Winter, real action starts after shower. Yes her ad says 5'5" but she is 5'7".

    CAKD Rayne K - Early 20s. Young and all natural looks, cute face, tanned, natural B or C tits. Well-toned body that feels like Sherry K. Very good attitude with fresh vibe, still learning with good effort. A bit sassy. Very DTF, enjoys sex with good natural reactions. Decent English, can hold basic conversation. I liked that she was fresh and easy to vibe with. Limited schedule. Fast learner, if she has fun she will stay.

    LA
    MH Lili - Beautiful Face, beautiful Body, Top Tier Tits. Early 20s, 5'5", D cup MMs, whitish skin with light tan, good ass, great figure with curves. Light bush, good pussy, enjoys foreplay, daty, and sex. Lots of tongue play. Cute vibe, great effort. Sometimes playful, cooperative and a nice smile. Good in bed, next level naughty with a high tier vibe.

    She greatly resembles Baby Joo's ads, but looks better than Joo's ad. High tier jgirl with both looks and service. Good for even Balanced Hunters.

    Crystal - Has looks and service, cute and sexy. About 30, 5'3, C tits, great sensitive nipples, normal skinny, tanned, dyed long hair in-between brown and blonde. Skilled and able to deepthroat all the way, more than many MILFs. Many other skills. Nice style, tits feel great especially during riding. Enjoys DATY and DTF. Nice subtle style, more kgirls should do it. MMs feel great especially riding. With younger girls, being respectful goes a long way. It's not super close, but yes she does look like Rose from Blackpink.

    Like Gandalf, different places and eras knew her by a different name. Limited English. If you like, try her full body massage. Photo model: BP Rose
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...0&d=1776982852 BP Rose

    Zoey/Aqua - B cup MMs, late 20s, very skinny, nice ass that feels great, pussy is good. Good bbbj skills, enjoys sex. Easy rec if you like skinny. Body feels great. As with HYA, I'm pretty sure service and vibe depend on compatibility. I vibed with her, so everything was great. Popular among HYA Hunters. Last I saw her, she had long black hair with some blonde highlights.
    One Vibe model is Luna x James on pornhub, showing her overall body type and shape. But it's not close enough to call a Lookalike:
    https://www.pornhub.com/video/search...h=luna+x+james PH Luna x James

    Baby Winter - She is young, skilled, GND face, petite body with round C MM tits. Body over Face, a good spinner candidate. Her waist is skinny and her body is in great shape, it's her strong point. She's late 20s. Good bbbj skills, long time and varied technique, a highlight.
    She is good in bed and loves dick if you do proper foreplay and start slow. A little English but not much talk. No typical kgirl vibe, but once the action started it was great. Few girls seemed as delighted with DATY and PIV as her. She seemed very genuine about that, but I would guess it depends if you vibe with her. This is the 'performance attitude' which I care about the most. Important: Body over Face, for true Spinner Hunters. Due to no kgirl vibe, not for full Service Hunters. Shower required by default.

    Tiana - 5'2", tiny spinner, skinny, tanned. B cup MMs, sensitive nipples. Long black hair with stylish curls, small hands and small feet. Submissive and with some skills, knows how to ride. Not a service queen, but nice for spinner lovers. She is young to me, my guess is about 30. She is ticklish on neck and side of face, LFK. Enjoys sex and naturally wet, quiet and subdued feedback, genuine reactions. Good visuals especially doggy. Petite. Will stroke you gently when you hug her. Team Seven spinner body. Her body has a good shape and feel. Well toned and normal skinny.

    Mina / Allie (PV) - 5'2", good body and face, sassy, natural full tits D cup, tanned, early 30s, enjoys sex. Good looks and good service. Not skinny or fat, well proportioned, good looking head to toe. Straight black hair to below the shoulder, soft skin that makes her wonderful to touch and hold. CIM available. Sometimes touches herself. Balance of looks and service. People generally agree her large natural tits look and feel great and are a big draw for her. Important: Sensitive clit and sometimes too sensitive for daty. Does not look like default ad, most people say better but it's up to taste. She is a sweet girl. Speaks Chinese.

    Mina's strong point is her large D naturals. Not just the size, but they are soft and wonderful with the shape I like. Few kgirls have the magic trio for tits - natural, size and shape, and feel. I also like her style of service, she genuinely enjoys sex. She often offered CIM.

    She is not for Service Hunters, and I like her as a HYA Hunter. People who like her tend to be either HYA Hunters or Balanced Hunters. Most classify her as a good looking pre-MILF. So it's important people are skeptical that I like her, because then the people who actually show up tend to win. High expectation guys are always disappointed, they are either the Premium Hunters or Service Hunters who aren't a good match for girls I like.

    Areum (PV) - Bb inclusive spinner with high service. 5'0", petite body with tits and ass, skinny waist, B or C MMs, 30s, white skin, body feels very good. Nice style especially hair. Proper kgirl attitude, very enthusiastic, lots of kissing, good bbbj skill and sells it. Service over looks, body over face. Service is a bit performative but skills and looks are good enough and she responds well to coaching. Good enough English for conversation, better than most kgirls. Would repeat.

    Baby Hami - High service and high looks, OG kgirl service. 5'6", C or D MMs, beautiful mature face, high tier body that could pass as 20s from some angles, white skin with light tan line, good figure, some ass, takes dick well. Pleaser with good attitude, not much of a talker, good feedback, occasional hot eye contact. Good after service and massage. Really nice body. Baby Hami has perfect kgirl attitude.

    Anything I ask her to do, she says "Okay Baby" and does it. I never get tired of it. She has broad appeal since she has both Looks and Service. You can tell she used to be S-Tier Looks in the past. It is very hot.

    Nali - Spinner, top tier body, high service. 5'1", top tier D MMs, 20s, skinny, very long black hair to waist, very cute ass in both look and feel, good English, a bit sassy. Cute GND face. Very fit with a high muscle and low fat body. Tits and ass are S-Tier and stand out - best view for tits is when she's standing, best view for ass is in doggy. Very skilled bbbj, serial deepthroater, fucks back a lot. Her MMs look huge on her tiny frame. Important: Even for nymphos who enjoy sex a lot, you need to work with her and start slow so her pussy adapts. Some foreplay by kiss, tits, and pussy will help a girl loosen up and get wet. If you follow that and start slow, a lot of girls will love your dick in them.

    Kbeauty or KGLA.

    SD
    Baby Naye - Tiny spinner at 5'1", C or D cup MMs, white skin, thin waist, small hands and feet, good pussy, enjoys sex. Very cute. Good in many positions, good attitude. Cute vibe, very nice smile, like a maid cafe girl. Service style is submissive. Very DTF. Has a high tier pussy.

    She is very flexible. One time she lifted her legs straight up in missionary without using her hands. Never seen any other girl do it. She does not always do this, but you can probably ask.

    Dani - High looks and high service. Lay back and relax OG kgirl service. Very beautiful face, it is DDG. Skinny, maybe 5'3, about C cup. Tits look and feel great. Very good bbbj skills.

    Ella K - C or D cup, tits feel great, about 30, 5'2", tanned, face is cute, long hair down to middle of back with some curls, a bit thick body type with broad shoulders, body is fit and has no extra fat, body feels great, very great skin too. Amazing tight pussy, very good service and attitude. She constantly has her hands and attention on me, and after nutting in her she'll suck my dick clean. When I ask for a break, she is stroking me and touching me and getting me hard.

    Viviana - Tiny, cute, thin, 30s, C MMs, generally well liked for her service. Some work on face, good looking overall. Ad based on her with usual PS.

    Viki - Petite spinner body, C cup MMs, round ass, body feels great, mature, body over face, tanned, good service, deepthroats. Playful, good attitude, good style, decent English. Her body looks and feels great. She can bbbj a long time with good technique. Hair dyed brown last tour. I repeat her for her good body, attitude, skills.

    Japan
    Hinata at Etoile (Yoshiwara, Japan) - A+ Tier Looks, SS Tier Service. Petite, 5'0", very skinny, top tier DDD tits MMs, 30s pre-MILF, pure white skin, DDG body. Her tits are beautiful and perfect shaped, they look proportionally way bigger than even Nali. Body is top tier and similar shape to MH Cherry but shorter. It is very good and skinny proportions head to toe. Her mouth is better than pussy. It is lay back and relax service from beginning to end. Ticklish on knees and bottom of feet, I would just let her take the lead the whole two hours. Her focus is on very long cock worship through every technique possible, it was 80% mouth 10% pussy 10% hand. Non-stop action from one course to the next, I got 110 minutes of action in a 120 minute session. Head to toe worship. She has no judgement just acceptance.

    THC Hasumi - Very beautiful S-Tier Looks. Early 20s, very tall at 170cm, top tier cute young face, it is adorable. B cup natural, tanned, beautiful proportions, very nice smile. Body feels great, like a younger Sherry K / SBC Hanna. Good skills and service for HYA, good eye contact on bbbj. Former JAV, good attitude and knows her job. She looks as good as her debut AV at 20 years old, 23 now.
    https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=2545 THC Hasumi

    Vacation / Far Away
    KDC Julie - Almost spinner at maybe 5'1", good C tits with a small MM base, great ass, body over face, service over looks, about 30, a bit tanned. A ton of enthusiastic dfk, fresh and really enjoys sex, body feels great. She has skills and good attitude, bbbj is good. Gets wet naturally. Her strong point is pussy, ass, dfk, enthusiasm, genuinely enjoys sex. She seems new but has skills, so I let her do what she knows and help out later. I could get everything done and she seemed to love it all.

    Summary: Newish vibe with skills, good effort, body over face, great ass.

    Monet aka Janie K - 5'3", big ass, C or D MMs, soft puffy nipples, body feels great, top tier pussy. Enjoys sex, submissive with good feedback. Face is GND cute. Pussy is especially good. Her ass is not far from Daisy L, it's big. Face is similar to ad with PS. Good shower service routine if she uses her hands on you.

    Chanel1 - Cute, 5'6", white skin, late 20s, C or D cup. S-Tier pussy. Tits feel good especially the soft area around nipples. Enjoys foreplay. Submissive and good for anyone who brings some service, DTF, enjoys it all. Enough English for basic conversation. First girlfriend vibes.

    Chanel2 - Fresh, 5'6", 20s, natural C tits, plenty of ass, young womanly figure, white skin, fully shaved. Natural style, good audio feedback, natural reactions, like a new real girlfriend. Improving on skills, superior bbbj technique. Enjoys the feeling of cock in her but very new. Pussy is high tier but she is still getting used to it. Important: For rich HYA Hunters, especially 'almost virgin' hunters. There is a kind of exclusivity factor to the pricing for a girl with a new vibe.

    Chanel3 - 30s, all natural, B or C tits natural with good nipples. Skinny waist, a bit petite with small hands and feet. Some ass, and her ass looks and feels great in doggy. Good effort and attitude, some skills. DTF.

    I'm glad I saw her since she was DTF and a total pleaser. She has civvie/newish vibe, FWB. With premium girls, each guy has to know best how comfortable they are with paying more.

    Baby Sweet - 5'5" High looks high service, beautiful. A or B tits, all natural body, good proportions, good ass. Pleaser, good English, sweet voice. Nice hair and nails. Experienced with some skills, dtf, adorable laugh. Very popular.

    She is the Reality Stone. When Sweet said "See you tomorrow", it had the power of reality. If I were a gatekeeper, I would gatekeep her first.

    Baby Sol - Full Team7. TOAS. D MMs that look good, 5'2" and maybe 95 pounds, pretty skinny, 20s with plastic, face has some work and is up to taste. I focused on her body which is very nice. She is very supportive and submissive and pussy is high tier. You take the lead, she is there to please. Important: Minimal service but pretty wonderful if you want submissive. Limited English but if you are a HYA Hunter it won't matter. Would repeat.

    Baby Yul - High Looks, Very High service (for a HYA Hunter). Slightly thick, not for Skinny Hunters. Beautiful face, good tits, big ass. Big B cup, white skin, high tier pussy, very dtf, long dfk, very good in bed. Resembles Ningning from Aespa. Her pussy loves to bang.

    Baby Abby aka Rai (Raii) - Tiniest kgirl, C MMs, very skinny, 4'10", early 30s, maybe 85 pounds. Some skills, knows what to do. Doggy is best view, ass is very nice. Very DTF, good Vibe. Enough English for basic conversation but not fluent. She is the tiniest kgirl. She may get on her tippy toes to wash your shoulders.

    Winter aka Seven - All natural beauty, 5'6", white skin, B cup natural, some ass, good looking head to toe. Very beautiful. Good figure, skinny, nice smile, nice eyes, playful. Enjoys sex, eyes go wild. Would repeat for both looks and service, and I prefer an all natural white body. Strictly GFE only.

    Riri J - Very beautiful, especially her perfect body. Her face greatly resembles Sakura from Le Sserafim but add 5 years. She has huge tits and a way better body. High looks and high skill, very beautiful smile, good attitude. 5'5", 30s, D or DD MM tits with nipples that point out, very skinny waist, high tier ass that feels great, light bush, extra long black straight hair. Good bbbj technique and attention, better service than HYA. Better looking than nearly every HYA. Can take dick well, if you are big just start slow and no problem. Knows all positions well. Some English. You can consider her a skinnier MH Cherry.

    FA Tomi - High looks and high service. Tomi is skinny, C MMs, about 5'3", mature, tanned, and has an amazing well-toned body like a stripper. Good body proportions, Team Seven. Petite TOAS body type (TOAS = tits on a stick). She has good bbbj skills and can go long, and she really enjoys sex, good high pussy. Quirky personality, her English is good.

    She outranks most younger girls on Looks. Skinny and fit, a spinner of similar size to Crystal / Bona. Since I get along with her, she's good for 1 or 2 hours. I put her looks in-between Crystal and Baby Arin.

    Chinese Level
    Based on feedback from up to three native speakers, this is the average estimate on a scale of 1-10:
    5 Subin
    6 Olivia
    7 Mina aka Allie
    8 Sansa K

    Where a 1-7 is "Panda Express is good" and 9-10 is "Panda express is not real Chinese but I'll eat it".

    Other Tips
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7680327 Health Guide
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...6&d=1785568509 Top 35
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7681537 Top 35 Chart Explained
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7685441 Top 35 Value Explained
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7681580 Skinny vs Thick Estimates
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7682975 7/28 OC

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    For shower, it just depends on the girl. Some girls like Nali prefer to skip shower, some like Baby Winter prefer you shower anyways. It varies on the girl.

    If a girl licks your parts, make sure you do the goodbye shower and don't skip it. Saliva has enzymes which partially digest your skin over time so this is important for your own skin health. It builds up if you skip too many goodbye showers, your skin gets rough. If you care about smell, grab some soap and wash again all over neck and face since those are sensitive parts girls will avoid for your comfort.

    If you are super sanitary, you could even use Betadine iodine for a rinse at home (see bottle's instructions). It is a hygene solution, not a cure for an existing infection. It is a very effective antiseptic, so some girls use it as Listerine for pussy so to speak. But, it has its limits and again it won't cure anything. It is just good for washing or smell. Everything else I have to say about condoms, STD testing, treatment, vaccines are here:

    I had to link to that one since I can't use search to find the OC version. OC has free STD clinics and also Ebisu Life in Anaheim for bulk 002 condom purchases.
    ED
    For older guys with ED and using prescription medicine, my main tip is to keep a journal. Figure out the right dose and time. I find 45 minutes before works for me, others say 30 and others say 60. It's common for generic Viagra or Cialis to be in 1/4 or 1/8 dose smaller pills. Get the generic brands, it's the same medicine. Telehealth like Edrugstore work well if you don't want to use your primary doctor. Few people need full dose and many are better at half dose. When I was younger, I only needed 1/4 dose. Even younger, I didn't need it of course. Many people have side effects like headache, back pain, eye trouble, which is best addressed by lowering dosage. Never crush the medication, it spikes the dose too hard. It stays in your bloodstream and has a halflife, so hours or a day later you can get a sense what a lower dose does. It will only address bloodflow and the physical portion of erections. It will not help with arousal, psychological issues, or if you have been jerking off or looking at porn too much before. So, ideally you combo it with not looking at or thinking about women for a while. The older you get, the longer you need. Until you are down to 001s or bb, and then you move on.

  3. #154
    For Spinner Service Hunters, Maru is back. I encourage people to do their own research, but for example you might find her in these links:
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...ru#post7660454 Maru PLEASER
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...ru#post7662629 Roster

    I scanned the rosters and some girls have come back to OC like Baby Bonnie, Min, Jenny K Prada, Shelby. The first two maybe for Looks, Jenny and Prada are bb-special, Shelby is a good GFE MILF Service option with huge tits. I like Shelby's bbbj, her P2P, and the way she does everything. It's probably personal preference.

    All the other girl updates you can figure out by checking the threads. There's no real gatekeeping lately, and we hardly miss any girl for long these days. So if a girl isn't mentioned recently, it's more by luck or her Intel is simply way back and you have to search or scroll the right threads. Most people don't bother to repeat Intel twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    Some of us would rather Evian come back than even Lizza, due to unicorn Vibe and a few other outliers. Lizza is the princess that waves and smiles to everyone. Whereas Evian she only likes some people so if you likes you, that's better. You see the real her. So like novelty, there is a separate thing beyond Looks and Service which is simply "no girl is anything like her".
    There is one criteria beyond Looks and Service, which is Type. If there were 10 different Team7 girls and 1 Premium girl, I'd probably see the one or two best Team7 girls and the 1 Premium girl. The way I'd pick the best burger place out of 10 and then the one pizza place. In this way, Evian being one of a kind makes her more repeatable because I can't get that experience with other girls.

    After seeing a lot of HYAs in a row, I'll see a high service MILF for the Service I've been missing. In this way, I'm cycling through Types and getting variety. Attached Venn diagram shows the three archetypes I cycle through - HYA, Hot Pre-MILFs, and Premium girls. I noticed many guys rotated a triangle like this between Types.

    It turns out, Team7 is pretty rare as are truly super skinny girls. So because they were rare, I went straight for them when they show up. But when there are multiple girls like that, I get more selective. I won't even be able to see Aqua because of another girl. And other people didn't notice FA Dallas last year because she showed up same time as FA Isabella and Nali. This is an important Appeal and Type dynamic that is hard to predict and see sometimes. A hot and fun girl gets overshadowed by others, when she could be a top girl in a different week.

    Lots of people have the same dynamic for types of girls like Spinners, girls with big tits, or triangle girls like Jenny K. If there's a sudden surge of one Type, people are happy but they have to choose. It's why pointing out a girl's main appeal matters, because then multiple girls of the same Type will still do well.

    There are other reasons besides Looks, Service, Price, Type to choose a girl. It might be a personal connection, or UTR like she gives you extra time or service, extras like msog, or whatever. A girl can also gets more attractive each visit even if her Looks didn't change. Those are all valid reasons to choose a girl, but they don't matter for reviews to help other people. Since other people are unlikely to get them consistently. Only when it's clear a girl does something consistently do I bother to write it like with Amy V's description.

    I'll list out some kgirl Laws that describe various dynamics. Just skip if you're not interested, but they all matter for helping people win on Intel and fixing prices.

    19th Law of Kgirls - If someone uses Intel to go straight to their next ATF, they'll bypass a ton of borderline girls they'd enjoy but wouldn't repeat. So when they find that outlier ATF, they often literally stop seeing other girls until she leaves. Then the Draft works really fast.

    18th Law of Kgirls - If you review a girl enough days before she starts, guys on the fence forget about her and only true fans show up. When people pick a girl that matches their type, they tend to repeat. When a girl meets enough people who consider her ATF like this, she stays. So, it means pointing her out to guys who will like her while scaring away the rest with accurate details. Most people are a bit lazy and like to be spoon fed Intel, but they also forget it soon unless a girl is an exact match

    If I haven't seen a girl in 1 year, her Looks will vary +/- 1/2 Tier 80% of the time. 20% of the time, it's typically +/- 1 Tier. Some girls lose 10 pounds while others gain it. I've seen one girl age more in 1 year than the previous 5. I don't even know how it's possible, I'm just reporting what my eyes saw.

    17th Law of Kgirls - Hard appeal and Intel. Girls with hard appeal have a high satisfaction and repeat rate for guys who used accurate Intel to see her. She has a low rate for those who don't. This is a hard split. So, it's important people know about her pros and cons.

    16th Law of Kgirls - I'm going to like my ATFs more than you. You are going to like your ATFs more than me. It is a basic mathematical principle, and almost by definition. So when I list out S, A, or B girls my S list is going to look very different than yours. And yours will look very different than mine. Even if we have similar taste and are only off +/- 1 Tier. It's because we're off +/- 1 Tier that the high end varies more than the rest.

    15th Law of Kgirls - Negative Review Paradox. A fair and accurate negative review can help a young and hot girl. It blocks disappointed guys from showing up, freeing up slots for Looks First guys to show up and win. She then has a high repeat rate and gets booked harder and harder. Kuzumi J was one example, there are many. As long as even one Gatesmasher also accurately pointed out her pros and cons, people will figure it out. True fans show up, disappointed guys avoid.

    14th Law of Kgirls - The Intel Paradox. Too much accurate Intel and good matchmaking make girls look much better than they are, and there is no contradiction. When you use the truth to scare guys from thick HYA or HYA with small tits, the later reviews are often all great because they are written by people who are a good match. This happened with a ton of positive reviews on Janie K aka Monet. It's not due to exaggeration. It's from perfect matchmaking.

    The Intel Paradox makes a girl seem like she has broad appeal when she actually has a narrow appeal. Someone could actually rush in seeing all those positive reviews without reading the pros and cons clearly spelled out. Therefore, such reviews should be paired with fair and accurate negative reviews. When combined, the rare result is the Negative Review Paradox. All the positive Janie K reviews were pretty clear about her appeal, so no one was confused and rushed in expecting something else. She was a Thick HYA, so skinny lovers could avoid and leave it to true fans

    13th Law of Kgirls - Service Hunters have lower conventional standards on looks and fewer Looks Dealbreakers. HYA Hunters have lower conventional standards on Service and fewer Service Dealbreakers. It makes sense from each POV. It is like we are each on our own island of expertise. I can look at HYA next to me and grade their Looks, but I have to use a telescope to look at the island of Service to rate girls. I'm not very good at it. Vice versa. I have tried very many times before realizing this is a law. So, instead I point out reviews by Service Hunters for Service girls. Of course, if even I warn a girl is low service then be truly warned.

    That's all I have for a while. For CAKD Suki J fans, I made a Lookalike guide using famous jgirls from Japan:
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...3&d=1785104528 Asuka 1 (Hamabe Minami)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...4&d=1785104528 Asuka 2 (JAV Sora Shiina)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...5&d=1785104528 Asuka 3 (Cocoro Shinozaki)

    Where possible I label the source so it's clear it's not the girl. I actually use my own Lookalike guides to remember a girl I haven't seen for a long time. I trust my own notes more than my memory.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails The Venn Diagrm 16.jpg‎  

  4. #153
    When using Intel, there are two ways I pick a girl. The first is by Rank which is Looks + Service = Score and the other is by Value which is (Looks + Service) / Price = Value. The two charts below show how my top 35 ATF list looks by Rank and by Value:
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...6&d=1785568509 Top 35 By Rank
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...7&d=1785568509 Top 35 By Value

    The Value list shows who is most repeatable rather than who is best. The lower Rank (aka Score) girls manage to make the top 35 Value list by being cheap, like Ahmi, Jenny, Ariana, Allie. They'd fall off the top 35 list if they upcharged. A few like MH Cherry and Lizza are a slight premium and make the Value list by being high Rank and "hotter than their price".

    A majority of people pick by Value, like BB Yoda. It means they'll pick a B-Tier bb-special girl over an A-Tier upcharge girl. But if there's only a C-Tier bb-special girl up against an A-Tier upcharge girl, they might try the A-Tier girl. A few rich guys will pick by Rank. It means they sometimes pay 400 and up for a better girl. But they also know some solid girls 320-370, often GFE only girls or girls just their type. When there's no S-Tier girl or they've repeated her too much, they're happy to see A-Tier. Some B-Tier girls are their type and cheap for variety during Low Tied. Since they are rich, they might see girls a bit more often than the average guy too. This means they get extra votes in the Draft.

    Girls succeed or fail long-term based on how many of the above guys they appeal to. The most successful girls appeal to 2 or 3 of the above archetypes, not just 1. The least successful girls appeal to 0 or 1. Of course, a borderline mid girl can still do well short-term for the people who just want new. Just not long-term. They'll go a far away city and suddenly they become sought after. But there are great risks, higher costs, and it is hard work. Just below average girls can bounce around and "be new" elsewhere to get by.

    For my part, I pick by a combo of Rank and Value at first, but once the novelty wears off I'm repeating girls by Value.

    In the top 35 Rank list, there are 10 "black priced" girls meaning "one and done pricing". No surprise all of them are premium girls with high Rank (Looks + Service). "green priced" girls are girls "hotter than their price" and worth repeating. Girls like Lizza and Nali could charge more and I'd still see them. Maybe not to someone else, but I would. +70 is a light Premium compared to +150 to +250 full Premium, so many people repeat them and girls like Katie K, Love Q, etc..

    Since everyone rates girls differently and has a different pricing curve, what is green for me might be black to another guy and vice versa. When combining everybody's ratings in aggregate, that determines how much interest each girl has short-term (black pricing) and long-term (green pricing). Of course, there are girls around C or below that few guys would choose (reject pricing). They might appeal to guys who "just want new", but even those guys will only see them once. They tend to get Dead Silence as long as they are not bad enough to complain.

    The girls who have lots of regulars who view them as "green priced" will get long-term bookings all year long. When girls say it's slow, it's because they aren't making many guys' top lists for Rank and Value. It's going to be three reasons: 1) They can't compete on Rank, 2) They're overpriced, 3) They're gatekept so true fans don't know about them. Girls have the most say on 2 and reviewers have the most say on 3. There is only so much anyone can do about 1. They are good for 1-2 weeks and then they must tour.

    My Pricing Curve is S = 6.3, A = 4.5, B = 3, C = 2, D = 1, E = Fail, F = Owes me money. It means an S-Rank girl could charge 630 bb special, an A-Rank girl 450 (350 base + 100 upcharge), a B-Rank girl 300 bb-special, and be considered 'green priced' to me. I would repeat her forever at that rate. Only about 50 girls or 10%-15% are green priced. The next 10%-15% are good one time for novelty, and I might see them 6-18 months later (the novelty resets). The other 75% are overpriced to me, because I have better alternatives. Either a girl who is better and just as cheap, or cheaper and just as good.

    For complicated reasons, Rank is not the the letter grade average of Looks and Service. One reason is I value S-Tier a lot more than A-Tier, and A-Tier a lot more than B-Tier. Premium Hunters value it at an even greater gap. But BB Yoda and Value Hunters are less willing to pay more. In theory all three of us grade the girl the same way, we just price their Value very differently. There isn't a huge gap between S and A or A and B ratings, the gap is in how much people will pay. But S is much more rare than A, and A is rarer than B. Some people will pay for rare, BB Yoda won't.

    To get the Rank grade, I simply convert the Looks and Service grade into it's Value (S = 6.3, A = 4.5, etc..), combine Looks and Service numbers for Total Score, and then list them out from best to worst. The top 4% scores are S-Rank. The top 1/2% to 1% are SS-Rank. Total Score predicts Value and price and it's adjusted by the Pricing Curve each guy has. What one guy is willing to pay makes no sense to a different guy. Whereas Rank is a more conventional grade rating that makes broad sense no matter your budget.

    There are only 3 girls SS-Rank: ETO Hinata (A+, SS), Lizza (S, S), and FA Isabella (S+, S-). The Value ordered list is of course dominated by bb-special girls, Japan girls, and 1/2 upcharge (50 bb) girls. The top upcharge girls either have very high Rank or a low base rate. For example, Crystal at 320 hr makes 35th place in Value despite being upcharge, beating out many 350 hr upcharge girls.

    Danbi and KDC Julie contrast a lot at 33rd and 34th place. Danbi is upcharge but a total Score of 9.6, equivalent to Julie at 6.8 but bb-inclusive. Danbi is Face over Body and Looks over Service, Julie is Body over Face and Service over Looks. They are next to each other in priority because Danbi is much hotter and Julie is much cheaper. But they both beat out a lot of other girls in Value including every full Premium girl. It means they're more repeatable.

    BB Yoda would rank KDC Julie way higher than Danbi, because BB Yoda's Price Curve doesn't grand Danbi the same premium for her Looks. He doesn't care much as long as a girl meets his standards. The reason is, in order to see a more expensive girl BB Yoda would have to skip a week or break his budget. Whereas, a Premium Hunter would prioritize Danbi over KDC Julie by a lot. It is up to taste if he even likes Danbi, but I guarantee he'll like Danbi way more than KDC Julie. The gap in looks is 2-3 Tiers overall, but 3-4 Tiers on Face. I wouldn't even recommend Danbi to a Premium Hunter without knowing his type, I'm just saying he would choose Danbi between the two.

    One note on the Difficulty number in the charts. In the list, Evian is the only top Value girl to me with a 3 Difficulty. It simply means there is a gap in opinion, some consider her ATF while others don't vibe or like. The 3 means the average gap in Service rating between a HYA Hunter vs Balanced Hunter. Even though some Balanced Hunters consider her ATF too (let's say A or S Service), others consider her D through F Service. My first visit I had an F for Vibe but S for DTF. Since I hunt for both Vibe and DTF, it was jarring. But 2nd visit, I got D Vibe, and it kept improving until she had top tier S/A Vibe. Due to the variance in Balanced Hunter opinions, 3 is simply the average of the gap.

    Some of us would rather Evian come back than even Lizza, due to unicorn Vibe and a few other outliers. Lizza is the princess that waves and smiles to everyone. Whereas Evian she only likes some people so if you likes you, that's better. You see the real her. So like novelty, there is a separate thing beyond Looks and Service which is simply "no girl is anything like her".

    Dead Silence
    Few people have the energy to write a "not good not bad" review, they save that energy to review a girl they like or have repeated. And I'm not even going to see a girl without Intel anymore, so I don't even know how mid or bad girls are if I don't even see them. For that reason, mid and below average girls tend to get Dead Silence. I know they are not for me, but I have no idea if that means C, D, E, or F. But if a girl is bb-special and has been around for ages, I assume they are a high Service girl at least.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Rating Data By Rank.jpg‎   Rating Data By Value.jpg‎   Vibe and DTF Evian.jpg‎  

  5. #152
    Summary: S-Tier can be premium, A-Tier can upcharge, B-Tier can bb-special, and C-Tier cannot last long once people have seen her one time (she is welcome for 1-2 weeks). Premium should really be 400 or 450 HR max, because we have alternatives.

    When a girl is about 15% over-priced (400 if she should be 350), interest falls off a cliff. It's too obvious past 15%, even guys who like her notice because they've seen other girls. People notice when girls are overpriced, so it rarely works. But, there are also valid reasons for higher prices.

    Three Pricing Rules
    A better girl can charge more, but they're rare. They are allowed to charge more as the only way to bring them over in the first place.

    Some girls raise prices, some girls drop prices. People just don't notice about the price drops as much or feel anything about them. So a person might complain about price rises for girls they won't see - but when another girl drops her prices they won't see her either! They are sitting on the sidelines while other people are busy picking girls. My experience on fighting prices is from decades of strip clubs. Complaining or begging never works - what you do is move on and vote with your wallet for a better girl.

    Between years, if rent, living expense, travel, or other basic costs go up, there may be a yearly bump in prices. Typically 10-30 lately. A girl would actually make less money if she were to charge the same rate as last year. It's the same with restaurants now. Most would be unprofitable if they rolled back prices and would close and leave town.

    Fixing Wrong Prices
    Of course, we are talking about the average girl or restuarant. One way to fix prices, is for girls and restaurants that are overpriced to close and leave. Higher standards.

    Another way is for overpriced girls to notice and drop prices. At the premium level this year, just as many girls dropped their price as those who raised it. But spending has dropped so much, I expect price drops to be more common in the future. Just today I pointed out another price drop for LA. Even if you don't see her, it indirectly benefits you. It is a slow process.

    We pay indirectly for problem customers and natural disasters alike. Boner was pointing out the Palisades fire as an example, and it is just one example factor. I'll point out that 50% of price increases happened on one day in January (a 10-30 bump).

    Two Kinds of Girls
    There are certain girls who are long-time locals and can charge less, because they have way fewer costs and urgency. But for the very same reasons, most of them don't need to work a lot either. Most girls are not like that, they have costs and limited time. There are two kinds of girls.

    Advanced Pricing Rules
    Generally, new girls can price higher than if they were long-tour veterans. They are by definition priced higher than girls who are better than them. So a brand new B-Tier girl is worth a long-tour A-Tier girl. You've already seen the A-Tier many times, so you pick the B-Tier girl on purpose. But then after seeing that B-Tier girl, she is worth just B-Tier now and you go back to your ATF. Almost all of us care about new to some degree.

    All things equal, a new A-Tier girl would be priced higher than an old A-Tier girl for that reason. It's possible for a new girl to price normally and get fully booked. In fact, that is the correct strategy if she can handle it. But, most new girls can't. That's the final reason why some girls are priced higher than they seem. It's because they can't take full bookings.

    People Know Value
    A-Tier upcharge girls and B-Tier bb special girls do very well because they are a step up from the rest. They set the standard, and a girl can't survive long if she's too far behind them. In an Intel rich environment, that is called The Draft.

    A girl who is "hotter than her price" gets fully booked. It doesn't matter if her price is low or high. A C-Tier girl charging 150 bb special would be fully booked. Maybe not by you, but she would. "Hotter than her price" is what I meant by "green pricing", as shown:
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...9&d=1785136433 Top 35

    Green Pricing
    Every girl with a green rate is priced for repeat to me. Since everyone has a different ATF list and a different order, each guy has a different list of "green priced" girls. But there is a ton of overlap in people's taste. We're not that blind. So the Draft happens as a result.

    Notice that the reason some people go to Thailand, Japan, or some other countries is because there exist "gold price" girls. The coloring is done by formula. Once you go to 50th to 100th place, green price becomes uncommon. This is known as "one and done" pricing.

    There are no 150 bb special C-Tier girls, because prices do follow a pattern. So the data shows me that S-Tier can be premium, A-Tier can upcharge, B-Tier can bb-special, and C-Tier cannot last long once people realize and have seen her one time. I've shown elsewhere how a C-Tier girl is really anywhere from an A through E to another guy based on taste. That plus the new girl advantage means they are more than welcome to visit for two weeks, and some people are very happy to meet them. But they can't stay.

    Even if I never reviewed or said a word, it would still happen. Reviews and Intel just speed it up. The best motivation for reviews is they increase the chance someone goes straight for their ATF and dodge a girl who is opposite of their type. Don't waste time or money. People who win tend to review too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    When I scroll down to the 50-100 place, the 'worth repeating' green mark is more and more infrequent. The top 25% of kgirls are well-priced, while the remaining 75% are overpriced. It is a different list of girls for each guy, but almost every guy sees it that way to some extent.
    Everyone's ranked list looks different, but everyone has the concept of green pricing. The result is guys of all types will repeat their #1 girl a lot more than their #2 or #3, and then more than the rest.

    When Premium Hunters use their scale to calculate their Limit numbers (S = 8 Points), some of the Premium girls turn green. But each Premium Hunter has a different opinion on ATFs. It's quite important that Premium girls lower their prices a bit accordingly. They'll make a lot more money. But, some of them aren't looking to make money through appointments. That's not why they work. I wrote it out clearly in The Professionals and The Doom.

    To see The Professionals and The Doom, it's in the middle of this Japan update. You can use CTRL+F to type 'doom' and hit ENTER until you hit it:
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7675051 Japan update (The Doom)

    The Professionals is based on my actual experiences with jgirls in Japan. But, it mirrors exactly what I see friends experience with kgirls! Be warned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    Extended Commentary
    Me: S = 6.3, A = 4.5, B = 3, C = 2, D = 1, E = Fail, F = Please pay me instead.
    BB Yoda Value Hunters: S: 4.5, A: 4, B: 3, C: 2, D: 1
    Premium Hunters are S: 8, A: 5, B: 3, C: 1, D: 0.

    We have a different way to scale how much we're willing to pay for a better girl. You can see Yoda has the same strict minimum standards as everyone, but he can't justify premiums. It would mean he'd have to go a week without a girl instead. Whereas Premium Hunters ignore the mid girls and look for top tier.
    The rest is not hard to figure out. We each have different criteria, and Premium girls have limited appeal. They know they'd make way more money charging a bit less. A few of them actually lowered prices by 50 or 100. Others won't.

  6. #151
    YHT FIO:

    PLEASERS
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7682856 Kaylin (Spinner)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7679965 Star (Tits)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7682785 Star
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7677168 Star
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7682072 Yeji
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7682069 La Sera (Service)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7681156 Baby Vera (Good overall)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7680545 Tina
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7679596 Sana (Jgirl)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7678598 Karla (Chun Li)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7678226 May J (Jgirl)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7677809 Wonie (Thick BB Special)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7676824 Mila
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7668747 Mila
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7672526 Hera (Service)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7672526 Hera (Service)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7672253 Hanie (Service)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7671734 Hanie
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7670773 Baby Barbie
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7669131 Danbi (HYA)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7667891 Eve K
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7667681 Victoria
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7667315 Leah V
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7666584 Angela V
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7665742 Leah V

    If you have similar taste to Fuzion, La Sera or Hanie. If you have similar taste to MisterD, Wonie or Hanie. It does sound like both La Sera and Hanie are mature girls (30s or 40s) with classic kgirl attitude, skills, good service, good looks. Baby Hami in LA is like that. Those are the kind of girls that make korgs popular with broad appeal. But, we all look for something different so the rest you'll have to figure out yourself.

    MORE REVIEWS
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7666452 White Meta (GFE Service)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7679874 White
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7682287 Rayne K (HYA)

    SPECIAL MENTION
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7681244 Baby Cheney
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7681271 Thai Bella (Boner certified)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7681267 Baby Bonnie (GFE HYA)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7654358 Subin
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7660923 Subin Photo Model
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...8&d=1781154763 Olivia Body Type
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7658235 001-003 at Ebisu Life

    If I were a gatekeeper, I would gatekeep Subin and Rayne first for HYA Hunters. Even Balanced Hunters might like Subin. Danbi is gone. Sooner or later, other HYA will show up.

    Subin - DDG like a model. Very skinny, short black hair, 5'4", C or D tits, tits look and feel great, good nipples too, white skin, skinny waist, good hips and ass. Ideal hip to ass contrast. Breast shape is what I like, good for cupping from behind or when she leans over you for 2nd bbbj. She is beautiful head to toe. Important: Looks over Service, GFE only. Limited English but no trouble communicating with basic words. Very sensual, she has a routine so I would follow it and then take over later when you think it's right. Would repeat. Speaks conversational Chinese. HYA Hunters report she improves on repeats.

    She was so hot I couldn't tell how good her Service was. It's one of several reasons I can't accurately review Service other than a general estimate. Whereas if even I warn a girl is low Service, be truly warned.

    CAKD Rayne K - HYA. Early 20s. Young and all natural looks, cute face, tanned, natural B or C tits. Well-toned body that feels like Sherry K. Very good attitude with fresh vibe, still learning with good effort. A bit sassy. Very DTF, enjoys sex with good natural reactions. Decent English, can hold basic conversation. I liked that she was fresh and easy to vibe with. Limited schedule. Fast learner, if she has fun she will stay.

    Check her out from behind in doggy. It is a beautiful young pussy.

    Olivia - Tiny and very skinny girl, full Team7 with perfect body proportions. Petite, very skinny, white skin, 5'1" or 5'2", B or C MMs, long black hair with curls. Pussy is very good. Routine includes some good balls licking. A bit sassy, has a tattoo. Her body appeal is similar to Baby Sol and FA Jira. Speaks conversational Chinese. Pussy is tight and she enjoys sex. Easy repeat for me, 50 bb.

    Her service was very good to me and she genuinely enjoys sex.


    LA
    I notice Baby Hami and Baby Winter are in LA. Baby Hami has OG kgirl service, top tier attitude. Baby Winter is for full Spinner Hunters, especially if you are Body First.
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7682862 Baby Hami (LA)
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7682029 Baby Winter

    Baby Hami - High service and high looks, OG kgirl service. 5'6", C or D MMs, beautiful mature face, high tier body that could pass as 20s from some angles, white skin with light tan line, good figure, some ass, takes dick well. Pleaser with good attitude, not much of a talker, good feedback, occasional hot eye contact. Good after service and massage. Really nice body. Baby Hami has perfect kgirl attitude.

    Anything I ask her to do, she says "Okay Baby" and does it. I never get tired of it. She has broad appeal since she has both Looks and Service. You can tell she used to be S-Tier Looks in the past. It is very hot.

    Baby Winter is now multi-booker! I don't have the time to look up all the options, but for example:
    https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/baby-winter
    https://get9irl.com/BabyWinter

    Some people are MILF Hunters. Maybe, you can relate to this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUXyCXUko9g&t=66s You're a Mother Lover

    Some day, Aile aka Mega Charizard X may return. Charizard X is when a top tier MILF gains Dragon type in her final evolution. Cari is another Mega Charizard X to some people, but you'll have to search the LA board for more details.
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...le#post7654313 13 Hot Girls LA

    Back then, LA was flooded with HYA. 13 hotties is High Tide for LA. Whereas right now, the Crystal Line shows 7 girls ("not bad"). I remember when it was only 4, which is Low Tide. During Low Tide, backup girls become first picks. Whereas during High Tide, I can always find a girl in my top 35. Two top examples in LA and OC are Nali (LA) and Subin (OC). For Nali, try Kbeauty or KGLA. For Subin, try Get9, SAG, Booker Tom. There is also Dani in SD, you can try CAKD or DIME. She is bb on-menu now and well-priced.
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7681537

    35 ATFs is a lot. Clearly there's no way can I take care of that many ATFs, so there is no gatekeeping incentive for me. Someone else should take good care of them instead, and thank you for that. I'll just float to the next ATF lined up like a Happy Butterfly.

    The Happy Butterfly Strategy
    If a girl ever expects you to see her again soon, something is wrong. You've given up one of the most wonderful advantages of korgs. The Sultan summons whomever from his harem he wishes, on a whim. In this way, Sultans and Emperors were Happy Butterflies.

    I remember reading about harems in history. The Ottoman Sultan never once complained about "Service". Just Hotness and Vibe. Even though they had 60 to 80 active choices just like LA or OC, in practice they rotated through the same 5-10 ATFs more often. In the Sultan's case, his mom was literally his booker (I am not joking). He would ask her each day "Who's available" and she would present in front of him the girls she said were ready for booking. For the mighty Sultan, pre-booking was actually 3-4 hours minimum. It took that long as the girl's hair, bathing, dress, and perfume were prepared by servants. His mom might tell him a girl was "must see" and new, but he learned he could not always trust her recs. Of course, the Sultan sometimes has to toftt new girls as they showed up. Other times he went back to his tried and true ATFs after a disappointing choice. Based on detailed accounts, the service was typically D-Tier (unskilled but perfectly willing). Her menu was one-shot only.

    Over time, the Sultan made sure to remember who provided good Looks and good Service. It was hard on his body test driving them all, but eventually he had his ATFs figured out and became unwilling to even try new girls. He became the Happiest Butterfly.

    Now I remember, there was one excerpt about the Japanese Emperor's harem that stuck in my mind. His harem had special rules that no girl was allowed to ask for gifts or favors. It would compromise the Emperor if he started making promises to his favorites with excessive gifts of money or cosigning a lease for her. Thus even back then, they knew about The Doom!
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYrnrVIhUDm/ Japan Ooku The Ooku

    But really. If you want to tip, fine. Girls remember and appreciate that. Just don't give fast sums of money to jgirls or kgirls. You'll never see it again. Pay as you go. Be especially warned of girls going out of your way to do things for you for free. It means you're in danger, just wait for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by SoloAdventure  [View Original Post]
    If you value waistline then I see why. Rayne and Sherry have a wider waist compared to the others. Suki has a slimmer wait but she was not toned at all. Her thighs were more flabby (for a thinner girl). Ribbon who we all can agree is "skinny" has thick upper arms too (for her body). I'm not saying Rayne / Sherry should be skinny and the others are normal. I wouldn't know what to classify all of them to be honest when they're all pretty similar to me. Way too many variables.
    It's enough that you tell people these things so they can use what we wrote and make a better decision. The more opinions the better.

    I used to value the very skinny aesthetic a lot since it was rare, but these days I prefer girls like Rayne and Sherry. Younger girls tend to have great skin in shape, look, and feel. Like hotness there are some older girls who have it and some younger girls who don't. FA Tomi is a great example, she has a better body than most young girls.

    These days I also like girls that are thicker but don't have extra fat or looseness where it doesn't belong. For example, there are some girls with big ass and it looks and feel great. Tight and firm, the right shape. Whereas there are also girls with smaller ass but you see it is loose or the shape isn't as appealing. I'm not that harsh as most people, but I'll still rank them differently for myself and in case it helps others.

    For some, it's an instant fail. So, it can push a girl into the next level of the appeal / warning scale, because it heavily influences someone's impression and they think of nothing else. We're not being objective in that sense. Flabby, uneven fat, or fat in the wrong places is the opposite of Fit. Flabby vs Fit is a bit different than Thickness, but it still affects people's impression as-if. Fit girls look like they work out (or just young and very healthy). There are certainly girls in Skinny who don't look Fit, which can be a turn-off. So, what I do is I praise the girls but it is limited by my impression. I won't always notice. I did say I marveled looking at Rayne K from behind in doggy, it is beautiful. Linked is the 'Rear View Vibe Model' for Rayne K. It isn't a Lookalike since she looks different, but it gave me the same feeling and impression of hot young girl. Hence 'Vibe Model' rather than Lookalike
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...6&d=1774557701 Rayne K Rear View 'Vibe Model'

    I used to be a guy who hunted for Very Skinny and fled from Very Thick. Girls like Baby Terri and Nabi changed my mind. JAV stars like Ruka Inaba were straddling the border of super hot versus not quite (her weight varied over the years also). So, the dealbreakers are familiar to me even though I no longer have them.

    Attahed are examples of Very Thick but still hot to me, and it's probably because they have skinny waist despite having huge thighs. No fat where it doesn't belong, shape and every part is perfect other than the thickness. So it is an extreme combo of Very Thick but relatively Fit, not Flabby. It would be important to warn guys who aren't into it, especially if the girl went LA. Then, the guys who love it will show up instead. Most of the models are Inah, so search for Leehee Express Inah.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Very Thick 01.jpg‎   Very Thick 02.jpg‎   Very Thick 03.jpg‎   Very Thick 04.jpg‎   Very Thick 05.jpg‎  


  7. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    I'll point out that I value the waistline a lot, and I noticed so do some others. It is irregardless of a girl's body fat. The waistline "matters more than it should" on grading women as skinny or thick. For millenia and across many cultures. If that already sounds like it's not useful, just ignore the whole idea since the scale works along those lines.

    Next, I also value the literal thickness of limbs, both arms and legs. While it does matter to me if a girl is muscular versus fat/flabby, it's secondary to the diameter. I noticed it was a predictor of complaints and appreciation so to speak.
    If you value waistline then I see why. Rayne and Sherry have a wider waist compared to the others. Suki has a slimmer wait but she was not toned at all. Her thighs were more flabby (for a thinner girl). Ribbon who we all can agree is "skinny" has thick upper arms too (for her body). I'm not saying Rayne / Sherry should be skinny and the others are normal. I wouldn't know what to classify all of them to be honest when they're all pretty similar to me. Way too many variables.

  8. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by SoloAdventure  [View Original Post]
    River, CAKD Suki, NG, Rayne, Sherry K.

    Curious why did you placed River, Suki and NG as skinny vs. While Rayne, Sherry K as normal? They all have the same body fat range to me.
    I'll point out that I value the waistline a lot, and I noticed so do some others. It is irregardless of a girl's body fat. The waistline "matters more than it should" on grading women as skinny or thick. For millenia and across many cultures. If that already sounds like it's not useful, just ignore the whole idea since the scale works along those lines.

    Next, I also value the literal thickness of limbs, both arms and legs. While it does matter to me if a girl is muscular versus fat/flabby, it's secondary to the diameter. I noticed it was a predictor of complaints and appreciation so to speak.

    To me, Ng had skinny limbs. Below are the Ng and Sherry K photo guides showing my impression.
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...7&d=1778796172 Ng photo model
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...0&d=1770681145 Sherry K

    Sherry K had pretty thick arms. It's one thing I loved about her, and the same thing Skinny Hunters complained about. I noticed it was a common dealbreaker for some in LA, and many people I knew rated Sherry as a bit thick (generally in a good way). Juju was another girl whose arms and legs felt like Sherry K. Even with my eyes closed it was almost the same. Well-toned and firm. Other girls you felt bone or soft skin.

    With the younger girls, a bit thick feels wonderful to me. But I get the impression to a few people (let's say 20%) it's a dealbreaker for Looks alone. That's the purpose of these Specs, it isn't a value judgement but what's good for one is not good for another.

    River and Suki had very good waistlines, they were so good I showed up looking forward to it. But, that's ultimately just an impression. I may emphasize that a lot more than someone else, but I'm also not alone on it. This subjectivity runs into the same issues with grading Ass, and it's why each person's grading system must produce different results. The Biggest Asses guide goes into examples, there is no neat solution. So, the first step is to produce a draft system and see what happens.

    I noticed that a girl with a thick build and bones would trigger some Skinny Hunters. It was simply the girl's Look for thickness rather than any consideration of fat composition. They didn't have high body fat, but it made guys flee and complain. So the practical step was to warn guys and see if that was enough. There are certain things like a pot belly or a flabby ass that wobbled as the girl walked which trigger guys and they interpret as fat, more than the rest of the girl mattered. It is the same idea as waistline in a sense.

    So, the scale ends up as a Skinny vs Thick appeal scale for matchmaking. A girl on the Thick side carries "too thick" warnings for Skinny Hunters and vice versa.

    A good example of a "too skinny" Dealbreaker is if she is so skinny you see her ribs. You could actually see that with Lizza when she was horizontal, but she also had a big fat ass. For the appeal reason, it's why big tits and ass don't count much against a skinny girl being skinny. The TOAS Spec for example. So what matters more is that we are measuring the circumference of her torso and limbs to a large degree.

    Ultimately, the only thing I can grade is my impression. Then I check and see if it can help others. And as with Age and Height, they are estimates and it's always possible I'm simply wrong. It's the nature of estimates.

    You could say I wrote the Biggest Asses guide and the Thickness scale to see if anyone had a better way of doing it.

  9. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]

    Skinny: Dani, Roo, GFE Winter aka Seven, Lani aka Lehilani, Baby Mury, Nali, Tiana, Baby Rose, CAKD Suki, Ng, FA Isabella, Katie K, Ribbon, River, Baby Soyul, Baby Sweet

    Girls vary over time. Most girls don't change much, some not at all.

    Normal: Rayne K, Areum, Melody J, <Normal>, Sherry K, Baby Arin, Chanel3, Haven, Chanel1
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...0&d=1770681145 Sherry K Body Type
    River, CAKD Suki, NG, Rayne, Sherry K.

    Curious why did you placed River, Suki and NG as skinny vs. While Rayne, Sherry K as normal? They all have the same body fat range to me.

  10. #147
    I'll include 10 photo examples of varying degrees of Thick. I'll also list out a scale with example girls. Everyone interprets the same word differently, but by trial and error we can find the best words that help each other. I don't have an exact definition, but to me Thick considers a woman's thighs, arms, ass, then 'everything else' in that order. The scale is Very Skinny, Skinny, Normal, Thick (popular), Very Thick / Fat (unpopular).

    Thickness Scale
    Very Skinny: Olivia, Baby Sol, FA Jira, Baby Abby (aka Rai), Lizza
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...8&d=1781154763 Olivia Body Type
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...8&d=1773658089 Lizza Body Type

    Olivia is the skinniest, and Rai is on the border of regular Skinny. Note that Lizza has big tits and ass, but her waist, arms, legs are all skinny. So it is kind of like BMI but you exclude Tits and Ass.

    Skinny: Dani, Roo, GFE Winter aka Seven, Lani aka Lehilani, Baby Mury, Nali, Tiana, Baby Rose, CAKD Suki, Ng, FA Isabella, Katie K, Ribbon, River, Baby Soyul, Baby Sweet
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...4&d=1781207488 Winter aka Seven Body Type
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...5&d=1785104528 Suki Body Type
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...1&d=1781206610 FA Isabella Body Type
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...6&d=1769034568 River Body Type

    Girls vary over time. Most girls don't change much, some not at all.

    Normal: Rayne K, Areum, Melody J, <Normal>, Sherry K, Baby Arin, Chanel3, Haven, Chanel1
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...0&d=1770681145 Sherry K Body Type

    Normal guys who like the entire list are common. So, it's enough to point out the skinny girls for those who need them.

    Thick (Popular): Baby Yul, FA Ms Angel, FA Eve, Sally V, Prada, CAKD Kokoro J aka Baby Miho J, <Thick>, CAKD Hanni, FA June, Chanel2, Monet aka Janie K, Daisy L aka Kai
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...2&d=1781154763 Monet Body Type

    Starting here, I start warning about thickness for Skinny Hunters. Skinny Hunters are more sensitive and vocal, and too Thick is a much more common Dealbreaker than too Skinny. Anything past the <Thick> tag might be clear-cut Thick HYA. It happens that the last five girls on this list are all young and hot. Their bodies feel great and don't have too much extra fat. Lots of people felt this way as far as Looks.

    Very Thick / Fat (Unpopular): CAKD Sumiko, Baby Terri, CAKD Kailee aka CAKD Keena, CAKD Nabi

    I've found that here, no warnings were enough especially for LA. I found Terri and Kailee attractive, but others fled. So, I came up with this scale to warn that they were beyond just Kokoro J or Monet / Janie thick. Then true fans would show up too. Terri and Kailee were young and really loved dick, but that did not matter to some guys.

    Advanced tip: If your girl suddenly gains a lot of weight over a few months, she might be thinking of retirement. Or, someone didn't read The Doom.

    Thickness Photo Examples
    1st Thick model is JAV star Ruka Inaba, in the range of Very Thick. She is one of the hottest Thick jgirls to me, on account of her starting JAV very young and having beautiful face, body shape, and skin. Huge tits that are shaped well, good proportions, but borderline fat. This picture of her is maybe -5 pounds from her usual career weight. 2nd is a kgirl model, she is a body model for Chanel2. In the upper end of Thick. Big ass and thighs (not shown). 3rd is jgirl Yuzuki, body model for Ms Angel and Skye K. In the range of Thick. 4th girl is JAV star Minato Riku. She is on the borderline of Thick and Normal because she has a big ass and some thighs but skinny waist and normal arms. So, we average it to maybe just under Haven. Purely subjective. Next is jgirl model Aoi, similarly she is on the border. No normal guy would complain and since she has a good shape plus good tits and ass her body would be rated very high with the warning "not for Skinny Hunters". She'd be worth gatekeeping.

    6th is kgirl Inah who has quite an ass and thighs. In this photo I rate her Thick, but there are other photos where she is bordering Very Thick. I didn't want to scare too many people and chose her more flattering angle, but it is enough to warn Skinny Hunters. Next is Natasha Yi, some level of Thick. Next is a jgirl from an exhibitionist couple. Now that is Very Thick. But no loose or uneven fat, so many would find her hot. I noticed that for LA, no warning would be enough for Very Thick. Or maybe they'll just learn over time what we mean. Second to last is a Very Thick kgirl. But since she doesn't have a pot belly or loose skin, some of us would dare. Even happily. Last one is 2024 Lizza body type - somewhere around Haven. The model is cheerleader LJU. I had to switch models when Lizza lost 10-15 pounds.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Ruka Inaba 01.jpg‎   Thick Kgirl Djawa.jpg‎   Thick Yuzuki.jpg‎   Thick JAV Minato Riku.jpg‎   Thick Aoi.jpg‎  

    Thick Inah 01.jpg‎   Thick Natashi Yi 02.jpg‎   2700-2.jpg‎   Thick Jeon-Bo-Yeon 01.jpg‎   LJU Good Thing 01.jpg‎  


  11. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty  [View Original Post]
    As Download X said, I thought Suki was super cute and young (SCYA), at least in the A tier in looks to me. She was nice to me. Would love it if more Jgirls are at least as cute and young, as as good an attitude. I would TOFTT on every Jgirls if I thought so. Pale skin with lovely young, small, perky tits. Her pussy looked nice and pink. Her booty was surprisingly big and bouncy in K9. I thought pics had good similarity but she looked younger than pics.

    I don't think anybody listen to The Boner anymore or I would tell them to see her. Sorry Download X, I trust in the process of you highlighting girls to see and bros to do their research and make the right choice. Your highlights are good enough for me to lurk like other gatekeepers. All I can do is boning.
    Great to hear. I tried many ways to explain that she is A-Tier Looks at best to many people. For example, someone would need to be a Jgirl Hunter (Jgirl > Kgirl) and a Spinner Hunter to maybe rate S. People who like different things than me are going to put different girls in S-Tier of course. Also, every tour I saw Suki she had a different look. She was long hair last year, her make up and style changed every few weeks (she returned to BB and MH several times). So even my own S or A Looks ratings are only estimates for myself. Same way Amy V and Lizza both leveled up when they lost weight. Girls vary.

    I've explained through the Bat Signal why I highlight girls. Some of it is if I hear 2 to 3 reliable people praise a girl and I know their taste, that's more than good enough for me. Same way Boner's taste is a close proxy for my taste, we both want young and hot. That said, the reason I demonstrate all these techniques and strategies is eventually I'll run out of Intel. I can't see girls as often as I used to, so more and more I'm just pointing out girls I saw before. I knew Suki J was hot since I saw her as BB Asuka last year. I know how good Riri J is because I saw her last year as MH Nina. And so on.

    I stayed longer than I planned since as I said long ago, I enjoy the numbers and theory. In those Kung Fu movies you sometimes see someone pick up and read a scroll, and soon after they're able to do new moves. So, I'll leave some scrolls.

    Value Insights
    This is a post about ranking your ATFs on how good they are (Looks + Service) versus their price. Most people have some form of a top ATF list. When those people are HYA Hunters, I can see their list is obviously different than mine but there are a lot of overlaps. We both rate girls in the same realm of reality and would be happy seeing each other's girls. If a girl shows up in 2 or 3 lists, it's a mini bat signal but we still have to check for personal dealbreakers (ex: skintone, tattoos, skinny vs thick, etc..).

    Listed are the top 35 girls I've liked in recent years. These are the fields: Difficulty, Age, Name, Score (Looks + Service), Looks rating, Service rating, Looks vs Service balance, estimated bb special value, and their base HR rate.

    HR rate gold: Notice that ETO Hinata and THC Hasumi have a gold coloring on their HR prices of $261 (Hinata) and $185 (Hasumi). It means they could double their price and I'd still be recommending them. They are giving a discount since you book Hinata 2 hours and Hasumi 90 minutes, but they deliver.

    HR rate green: Every green coloring on HR price means the girl is well-priced. I'll repeat them indefinitely. It should be no surprise that my top 35 ATFs are mostly green for repeats, whereas around C-Tier none of them are. It's also no surprise the 8 exceptions are all premium girls - Riri J, Daisy, Katie K, Angel, Ng, Baby Mury, MH Lily (aka MH Lili), Laurent. Of course, those girls are definitely worth a first visit to those who can afford extra. Most of us are happy to meet a good girl one time, but no repeat due to price. We'd repeat them if they were 50-150 cheaper, but we'd rather pick another girl. Those girls are often good backup options when my main choice cancels or other options run dry.

    Difficulty: The Difficulty rating is the estimated Service gap feedback between a HYA Hunter and a Balanced Hunter. ETO Hinata tends to be rated consistently for Service regardless of which you are. "Safe for Balanced Hunters", maybe even acceptable to Service Hunters (I'm not qualified to say). She could even be negative Difficulty, but I round to 0. I also noticed many Balanced Hunters fondly remember CAKD Yua for her Service too, she had more fans than even HYA Hunters.

    Age: This is just my estimate, but HYA is 20-30, HYA+ means I'm confident 20-25, H/P means 25-35, PreMilf means 30-37.5 (the upper end "only if hot"), MILF is 37.5+ or 40+. Baby Hami is cut off at 41st place overall, and she is low A-Tier Looks to me but you can tell she was S-Tier when younger. If you imagine banging your friend's hot mom, it works really well. For a guy that prefers mature, they could rate her higher (and HYA lower).

    I truly believe others including Boner can rate Age a bit better than me. But if everyone is afraid to give an opinion, what's the point. So I'll say what I think, I don't mind if others don't agree. I'd rather hear what they have to say.

    Score: 12.0+ can be considered SS-Tier Overall to me (i.e. top 1%) - Hinata, Lizza, FA Isabella. 10.0+ can be considered S-Tier Overall: MH Cherry, Nali, Riri J, Baby Yul, Jira, Subin, CAKD Yua, Daisy, Katie K, Angel, Heaven K, Hani, Dani, Baby Sweet, FA Cherry, THC Hasumi. Bolded are girls currently available. Underlined are girls who could conceivably show up. You can see THC Hasumi in Japan.

    Balance: ETO Hinata, Hani, FA Cherry, Baby Arin, Jenny K were girls I'd pick for Service over Looks. THC Hasumi, Baby Rose, Danbi, and Laurent were girls I'd pick for Looks over Service. It can be quite jarring to go back and forth between the two types on each transition.

    Limit: This is related to the HR rate gold/green comments. The limit is automatically calculated by the Total Score (Looks + Service) and was surprisingly accurate. I agreed with its predition 80%-100% of the time (the 20% being borderline correct). It was never once wrong. It means Lizza could charge up to 630 bb special (530 + 100) and I'd regularly repeat her. If there were no other girls under their Limit price, I'd mainly repeat Lizza with the other girls being mixed in purely for variety. In practice it would be more than 50% Lizza in that scenario until she was gone. This is why when Nali starts work, 5 kgirls leave LA. People know Value and there is an obvious gap.

    GFE factor: For GFE girls, each guy has a multiplier. Mine is about 75%, while guys addicted to bb are about 50%. So for example FA Isabella could chage 625 bb special HR. But she is GFE only, so the GFE Limit rate is 470 (625 x .75). Her rate of 320 beats that, so when FA Isabella is in town I just repeat her. Whereas I know other guys are a 50% multiplier. You can tell because they will still show up for high level GFE girls.

    I'm happy to use 001 with any C-Tier girl or below, but then again I don't need to see them either. There are B-Tier bb special girls and A-Tier upcharge HYA who are "green" priced. That said, it's kind of nice using 001s because you feel clean. Any time I get treated with the 3-antibiotic combo, I try to stay GFE only as long as I possibly can. It feels great when it works, but it takes a while to get used to.

    When I scroll down to the 50-100 place, the 'worth repeating' green mark is more and more infrequent. The top 25% of kgirls are well-priced, while the remaining 75% are overpriced. It is a different list of girls for each guy, but almost every guy sees it that way to some extent.

    Extended Commentary
    Looks and Service are graded SS through F and they're converted to a numerical score: SS = 8.4, S = 6.3, A = 4.5, B = 3, C = 2, D = 1, E = Fail, F = Please pay me instead. People with my taste aren't far off from this scale. Whereas BB Yoda Value Hunters are S: 4.5, A: 4, B: 3, C: 2, D: 1, Premium Hunters are S: 8, A: 5, B: 3, C: 1, D: 0. We have a different way to scale how much we're willing to pay for a better girl. You can see Yoda has the same strict minimum standards as everyone, but he can't justify premiums. It would mean he'd have to go a week without a girl instead. Whereas Premium Hunters ignore the mid girls and look for top tier.

    Jgirl, Kgirl, Viet, Thai, Asian: Nobody agrees on top tier, but our disagreement is usually 1 or 2 Tiers as long as we both hunt HYA. I noticed there is a broad pattern in taste between guys who like Jgirls/Cgirls, guys who like Kgirls, guys who like Thai / Viet, guys who did not grow up with Asians but like Asians, and guys who just don't prefer Asians but want bb. It is very predictable. If a guy prefers Thai or Viet, you have to adjust for that. Their B-Tier is our C-Tier and vice versa. So if I liked a Viet girl, I'm confident guys who already like Viet girls will love her too. Linda V was my favorite so far. Since I'm biased for jgirls, this means if a Jgirl is S-Tier to me and a Viet girl is B-Tier to me, to a Viet Hunter the Viet girl could probably be high A-Tier and the jgirl be A or B at best. This is the typical 1 or 2 Tiers shift, obviously there are exceptions.

    Japan: The reason gold girls exist in Japan is a combination of the exchange rate and also that there are 1,000-10,000 girls to choose from so a few of them are bound to be outliers in value. The 1,000 options number is roughly what a beginner speaking only English would access. It's still quite a huge number of options, including breastfeeding, train harassment, sexy massage, jgirl duos, video, nuru/soapland, and so on. Everything legal and relatively open. Obviously, the number is smaller if you limit it to just DH or Soapland.

    The tides: When there's lots of great options, people go and check them out and do better than usual. That's high tide. All things equal, we all prefer a new girl. You can multiply her Total Score by 1.25x by default. 1.50x if you are a Happy Butterfly that "only wants new". In practice, Happy Butterflies sometimes meet a rare unicorn and they feel confused because they actually want to see her a 2nd time. This repeated enough leads Butterflies to turn into Turtles. I started out Butterfly and Rabbit myself and still would be if I learned to Walk.

    Novelty: A brand new B-Tier girl is as good as an A-Tier girl to almost anyone. Lots of options = High Tide. During Low Tide, "more girls turn green" meaning we might repeat options we wouldn't have whether due to Tier or Price. Thta's how I end up repeating girls 50th to 99th place, strategically.

    Pricing: Well-priced girls get fully booked. I know CAKD Suki wasn't for everyone, but she was a 350 HR HYA to many of us. So even if only 20% of people are a good match, that's a lot. They might fully book her and ignore the other girls priced more. Price matters.

    Intel Expires: I actually have a separate rating for 2023 Bona than Crystal. It's because girls change over time. Amy V could have a separate entry for 2024 versus 2025 in the same way. She lost some weight and leveled up. Lizza used to be ranked below CAKD Yua, but she clearly leveled up Looks and Service. She lost 10 to 15 pounds, I didn't recognize her. I completely switched her body model to a different girl. For those who didn't know 2024 Lizza, she was a bit thick. Both versions of her are top tier to me.

    I actually enjoy the challenge of 2-4 Difficulty girls. Examples of 3 Difficulty include Kuzumi J (she is almost 4), CAKD Suki, Lani. You get a double-hump separation of reviews of good and bad without much in-between. It is a red flag warning that you either have to be a HYA Hunter OR the girl has to be so hot that even a guy that normally expects service would find her worth the effort. A few of them even transform into HYA Hunters after that. It is irreversable.
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  12. #145
    Pretty sure those were her oldest pics as I've seen them before. I think it looks better tbh.

  13. #144

    Trust the process with Suki / Asuka BB

    Like a proper gatekeeper, I wait until Suki left before talking about her.

    As Download X said, I thought Suki was super cute and young (SCYA), at least in the A tier in looks to me. She was nice to me. Would love it if more Jgirls are at least as cute and young, as as good an attitude. I would TOFTT on every Jgirls if I thought so. Pale skin with lovely young, small, perky tits. Her pussy looked nice and pink. Her booty was surprisingly big and bouncy in K9. I thought pics had good similarity but she looked younger than pics.

    I don't think anybody listen to The Boner anymore or I would tell them to see her. Sorry Download X, I trust in the process of you highlighting girls to see and bros to do their research and make the right choice. Your highlights are good enough for me to lurk like other gatekeepers. All I can do is boning.

    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    ...
    CAKD Suki - Very beautiful. Tiny jgirl spinner with DDG Face and a great ass. 5'3", 20s, petite, spinner, pure white skin, natural small tits, fully shaved, DDG Face, short black hair, amazing chunky ass. Beautiful smile, tight pussy. HYA level skills, can ride well, she is submissive in other positions. Enough English for basics, fresh vibe. Follow the Lizza guide for best results.
    https://cakdolls.com/escort/Miko%20J/ CAKD Suki Ad
    https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...9&d=1781206159 Suki alternate hips and ass model

    I should warn that Suki is probably for Jgirl Hunters, with HYA type service. It is divided opinion...

  14. #143

    Jenny's newer pics

    Quote Originally Posted by Osori84  [View Original Post]
    To the weight in the picture you posted?

    I saw her back in May, and she was using new pics that showed the weight gain.

    I haven't seen anyone comment on it, either.

    But don't misunderstand me, she is still one sexy vixen, and I had a great time!

    I just think some guys would think the old pic would be misleading.
    https://www.kdreamc.com/jenny-wla

  15. #142

    Is Jenny back

    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    Then a body model for Jenny who's gonna be hard to book at first.
    To the weight in the picture you posted?

    I saw her back in May, and she was using new pics that showed the weight gain.

    I haven't seen anyone comment on it, either.

    But don't misunderstand me, she is still one sexy vixen, and I had a great time!

    I just think some guys would think the old pic would be misleading.

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