"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**BrownSugaTwo** · 07-28-26 11:31

Originally Posted by MacLuvin [View Original Post]

In my experience, girls with husbands / boyfriends are just hoping to find a simp to send them money for nudes. They never intend to meet or change their current situation if they already got a man at home. The husband is probably in on it too. No different than having an OF page.

Yes, I thought this could be the case. I also thought she could be robbing guys with the husband. Wait until the SD is in a compromised position, then she let's in the husband. Or, "oh, the husband put a tracker on my car and found out I'm at your place. He's outside, right now. Give me some money, let me leave, and he won't cause a scene. " Something like that.

**MacLuvin** · 07-28-26 10:53

Originally Posted by BrownSugaTwo [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...8-f0851b0a4b56

She's been around for a while, but her social media says she has a husband that she's desperately in love with. So, not sure if she's real or not. Curious of anyone has seen her?

In my experience, girls with husbands / boyfriends are just hoping to find a simp to send them money for nudes. They never intend to meet or change their current situation if they already got a man at home. The husband is probably in on it too. No different than having an OF page.

**BrownSugaTwo** · 07-27-26 20:15

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...8-f0851b0a4b56

She's been around for a while, but her social media says she has a husband that she's desperately in love with. So, not sure if she's real or not. Curious of anyone has seen her?

**GoneForGood97** · 07-27-26 19:55

Eli https://members.seeking.com/member/8...1-890a48c8eb14.

Wants an allowance for no intimacy PPMs to work up to intimacy if there's chemistry. Obvious dead on arrival no need to pursue further.

**AtlPrince** · 07-26-26 15:00

I am an ex playa and a veteran in this lifestyle. You sed to have an other account before and lost it.

I have a local daddy network, we meet sometimes for drinks, share girls with back to backs and fuck for less. Sharing is caring and we are successful.

Originally Posted by SoonerFan72 [View Original Post]

Airmantroy has been around for years, I've traded intel with him several times, and always got good info. He is a solid dude.

**SoonerFan72** · 07-25-26 19:11

Originally Posted by AtlPrince [View Original Post]

Bro Airmantroy, You used to see only pros until recently and most of us know you are a QV guy. You got all my SB trades and burned bridges for me. You are one of the guys that leaks info to pros from this forum. You got on seeking recently. As someone mentioned, go and get tested first. You didn't achieve anything by banging girls in a month, you think are high count. We all do that every month. You are supposed to be in escorts section, not sure why you are bragging here.

Airmantroy has been around for years, I've traded intel with him several times, and always got good info. He is a solid dude.

**Georgiaguy57** · 07-25-26 15:03

Originally Posted by VirgilToole [View Original Post]

I'm not sure about her being a scammer, but she's definitely a pro. Here's her second profile on seeking:

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...e-fa3906673567

And here's her Listcrawler ad:

https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/4703060454

Yeah, she's not a scammer. I've seen her a few times. She's a bit strange, but not bad. I Pronably wouldn't see her again now that I know she's an escort though LOL.

**AtlPrince** · 07-24-26 23:09

I concur with you bro. This is a discussion forum and no need to take difference of opinion as a personal offense.

Also, Price point is important and it aligns with age, figure, rating etc. I strongly believe age 35 is cut off age for women in the dating pool and older women shouldn't be paid more.

Originally Posted by GoneForGood97 [View Original Post]

It's not about "find fault", but this is an advice forum. Posting here you are either giving or asking for advice, and you kinda have to accept people are going to comment and even criticize.

Taste is not the same as market price (market in the broad economic term). Sure you wouldn't go see Swift for free, but that doesn't change her ticket price in the market. And just because you like some indie small town bar band better doesn't mean you would pay Taylor Swift ticket prices to see them live. You're preferences are yours, but the pricing isn't. And if you did pay that small indie band over $2000 per ticket when you could go see them for cost of cover plus a 2 drink minimum, you would hope someone would let you know before you made that mistake. I've said this before, but hair cuts can be $20 or $2000, and you might like the Great Clips $20 cut more, but you're not going to walk in and give the stylist the $2000 Hairstylist-to-the-stars rate just because you like hers better.

Regarding what your paid allowance for her was, I don't really want to dig through pages of thread, but I think someone somewhere mentioned her allowance, and I think you mentioned you saw her and she was fun. Now, you never said you paid the amount the other guy posted, but I don't' think it's unreasonable for people to assume you stayed in her ballpark, which as I recall was in the college co ed price range. Now, if you charmed her down to a more reasonable and appropriate price for a post 40 year old, then that's great. I hope more guys follow your example.

**AtlPrince** · 07-24-26 23:01

Bro, They ask real phone # because they can't afford data plan and they get free texts with imessages on wifi.

I talked to many girls on dating apps and they give the same reason of imessage, green ticks etc. I degrade them by saying I don't talk to cheap girls and move on or tell them to continue texting me on my burner # and 70% of them continue the conversation.

Originally Posted by GoneForGood97 [View Original Post]

Autumn.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...e-13da494927b4

Normally wouldn't spend much effort on someone chubby, but figure with her being 19 it might be fun. She immediately asked for my ph#, never asked for pics, and when I sent my burner app ph# she said she only texts "real" ph#s. Almost guarantee this is a wannabe blackmail scammer, so I just blocked and moved on.

**VirgilToole** · 07-24-26 19:53

Originally Posted by GoneForGood97 [View Original Post]

Autumn.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...e-13da494927b4

Normally wouldn't spend much effort on someone chubby, but figure with her being 19 it might be fun. She immediately asked for my ph#, never asked for pics, and when I sent my burner app ph# she said she only texts "real" ph#s. Almost guarantee this is a wannabe blackmail scammer, so I just blocked and moved on.

I'm not sure about her being a scammer, but she's definitely a pro. Here's her second profile on seeking:

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...e-fa3906673567

And here's her Listcrawler ad:

https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/4703060454

**GoneForGood97** · 07-24-26 17:22

Autumn.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...e-13da494927b4

Normally wouldn't spend much effort on someone chubby, but figure with her being 19 it might be fun. She immediately asked for my ph#, never asked for pics, and when I sent my burner app ph# she said she only texts "real" ph#s. Almost guarantee this is a wannabe blackmail scammer, so I just blocked and moved on.

**GoneForGood97** · 07-24-26 17:14

I let my sub lapse awhile back, but was signed in to check some links from the forum when they made me a discount offer. Just FYI. Not sure if anyone who logs in now with a lapsed account will get the offer or somehow I got lucky, but just an FYI. And if you click the button they do immediately charge your card, no confirmation screen afterwards.

**2me4Looking2** · 07-24-26 17:03

Originally Posted by GoneForGood97 [View Original Post]

It's not about "find fault", but this is an advice forum. Posting here you are either giving or asking for advice, and you kinda have to accept people are going to comment and even criticize.

Taste is not the same as market price (market in the broad economic term). Sure you wouldn't go see Swift for free, but that doesn't change her ticket price in the market. And just because you like some indie small town bar band better doesn't mean you would pay Taylor Swift ticket prices to see them live. You're preferences are yours, but the pricing isn't. And if you did pay that small indie band over $2000 per ticket when you could go see them for cost of cover plus a 2 drink minimum, you would hope someone would let you know before you made that mistake. I've said this before, but hair cuts can be $20 or $2000, and you might like the Great Clips $20 cut more, but you're not going to walk in and give the stylist the $2000 Hairstylist-to-the-stars rate just because you like hers better.

Regarding what your paid allowance for her was, I don't really want to dig through pages of thread, but I think someone somewhere mentioned her allowance, and I think you mentioned you saw her and she was fun. Now, you never said you paid the amount the other guy posted, but I don't' think it's unreasonable for people to assume you stayed in her ballpark, which as I recall was in the college co ed price range. Now, if you charmed her down to a more reasonable and appropriate price for a post 40 year old, then that's great. I hope more guys follow your example.

You are twisting my example to fit your perspective. Where did I say I would pay $2,000 to see some bar band? I'm saying I wouldn't pay the "market rate" to see a very popular artist that I don't like, but would to see one I do like. That doesn't make one wrong or a bad financial decision because I'm the only one that can truly judge it's worth for me. You keep picking examples for things that are not subjective. The cost of great clips isn't subjective. They post their prices. Same with Mazda and Ferarri. Nothing subjective about either of those. Those car prices are based on measurable things. Attraction to a person is completely different. Why is it so hard to admit that on here? There is no set price for different women based on set characteristics. You may have your criteria and that's great, but it doesn't mean your criteria is the "market rate".

This is going nowhere and I'm expecting the mod to shut this down soon so I'm done with this. It's this kind of thing that makes me not want to post in this forum.

**Airmantroy** · 07-24-26 16:37

Originally Posted by GoneForGood97 [View Original Post]

It's not about "find fault", but this is an advice forum. Posting here you are either giving or asking for advice, and you kinda have to accept people are going to comment and even criticize.

Taste is not the same as market price (market in the broad economic term). Sure you wouldn't go see Swift for free, but that doesn't change her ticket price in the market. And just because you like some indie small town bar band better doesn't mean you would pay Taylor Swift ticket prices to see them live. You're preferences are yours, but the pricing isn't. And if you did pay that small indie band over $2000 per ticket when you could go see them for cost of cover plus a 2 drink minimum, you would hope someone would let you know before you made that mistake. I've said this before, but hair cuts can be $20 or $2000, and you might like the Great Clips $20 cut more, but you're not going to walk in and give the stylist the $2000 Hairstylist-to-the-stars rate just because you like hers better.

Regarding what your paid allowance for her was, I don't really want to dig through pages of thread, but I think someone somewhere mentioned her allowance, and I think you mentioned you saw her and she was fun. Now, you never said you paid the amount the other guy posted, but I don't' think it's unreasonable for people to assume you stayed in her ballpark, which as I recall was in the college co ed price range. Now, if you charmed her down to a more reasonable and appropriate price for a post 40 year old, then that's great. I hope more guys follow your example.

The market price is what they are willing to accept, you make an offer and they either accept it or counter. Then the game is in their favor. Regardless of what you, I or anyone else "thinks" they are worth. The rationale you have is that any 40 yr old is only worth $Xxx is wrong, the fact is she is only worth that to YOU. I may see her and think she's a VS model or that she's hideous. As much as we would like to think we can "control" the price, that's laughable. At best we can barely attempt to manage expectations. If they turn down your $250-300 offer because they aren't attracted to you, that doesn't mean they won't accept it from me or somebody else. You have some game, you do pretty damn good. But that doesn't mean everybody is going to have that same luck.

**GoneForGood97** · 07-24-26 16:20

Originally Posted by 2me4Looking2 [View Original Post]

Of course he is wrong when he tells other people how much they should pay for something they like. Even saying one is a Ferrari and one is a Mazda is the same thing. It's all in the eyes of the beholder. Then there is the glaringly obvious thing that never once did I mention what I gave her or even said she was smoking hot. I said I had a good time and left it very vague. I'm not on here asking for advise on what I should pay or who I should see. If you like young girls with very little experience and low confidence then knock your self out. Have fun. Pay what you want, but don't tell other people your way is the right way. It's just naive to think like that.

A better example is that I hate modern pop music. I wouldn't go see someone like Taylor Swift even if you paid me, but I'll pay a lot of money to go see someone I really like. Does that make everyone that paid to see her wrong? It's all a matter of taste and perspective and I don't fault someone just because theirs doesn't align with mine so why do you?

It's not about "find fault", but this is an advice forum. Posting here you are either giving or asking for advice, and you kinda have to accept people are going to comment and even criticize.

Taste is not the same as market price (market in the broad economic term). Sure you wouldn't go see Swift for free, but that doesn't change her ticket price in the market. And just because you like some indie small town bar band better doesn't mean you would pay Taylor Swift ticket prices to see them live. You're preferences are yours, but the pricing isn't. And if you did pay that small indie band over $2000 per ticket when you could go see them for cost of cover plus a 2 drink minimum, you would hope someone would let you know before you made that mistake. I've said this before, but hair cuts can be $20 or $2000, and you might like the Great Clips $20 cut more, but you're not going to walk in and give the stylist the $2000 Hairstylist-to-the-stars rate just because you like hers better.

Regarding what your paid allowance for her was, I don't really want to dig through pages of thread, but I think someone somewhere mentioned her allowance, and I think you mentioned you saw her and she was fun. Now, you never said you paid the amount the other guy posted, but I don't' think it's unreasonable for people to assume you stayed in her ballpark, which as I recall was in the college co ed price range. Now, if you charmed her down to a more reasonable and appropriate price for a post 40 year old, then that's great. I hope more guys follow your example.