Strip Club Reports

[Jd2011]

Your explanation of strip club history explains a lot. I just thought I might have been completely oblivious back then. At that time, I was only in the streetwalker scene and working on my camera game.

Regarding ADHD, I have never been diagnosed or even suspected of having it, not to say its not possible. I have seen counselors for a variety of things from time to time, but have never opened up regarding these things. I have a limited idea of what it is, and based on that, I don't think I have it. I don't have problems in my life that might be linked to ADHD. I do well and am focused in my career, I don't change cars or houses like underwear, etc. I dont get tired of the relationship / person at all, I just lose interest in the sex as the pull of something new is always more powerful. If I were a sultan, I would have a a queen/wife, but also a different woman every day for the rest of my life. Whether or not we choose to admit it, we as men are wired to spread seed. It is in our nature. Some suppress it better than others, some act out on it more than others. But what do I know? Lol

So passenger, what did you end up doing about the ADHD, if anything? It would seem you are still mongering? No judgement, just curious.

To borrow a quote from Bodyshopper (originally Joseph Goebbels), "Man is and remains an animal. Here a beast of prey, there a house pet, but always an animal. ".

By chance have you been diagnosed with ADHD?

Long story short, I get bored quickly in relationships after the initial chase and courtship. I would have a smoking hot, financially-secure girlfriend and Inwas still chasing other tail. Civilians, strippers, coeds, hookers, massage, escorts, etc. From my 20's to my 40's I was banging hundreds of girls, body count into the thousand (s).

Always joked about having ADHD and was finally dx'd in my mid 40's. I then learned that ADHD can wreak havoc on relationships, my wandering eye and dick. So all that time the problem was truly me, with a giant assist from ADHD.

[DooMama7]

Brother, I am single and do not struggle with dating. Offering someone a fist full of 20's will always get you laid more frequently and offer more variety than any other strategy I know of. I wish more men could experience the dark side before getting married, just so they know that options are out there and they don't get trapped in the sex as leverage game. I am glad you found some solace though.

That way you aren't starved for pussy and you know what you want sexually.

[Passenger]

I know it's off topic, but I'm very intrigued with the recent conversation centered around reasons we monger, and the ways we monger, and how it all works with any vanilla relationship we may have. So, I feel I need to chime in with my take. Again, if you feel this is off-topic for the thread, please ignore.

For me, the greatest joy, and biggest problem, is my need for variety. Because of this, most relationship forms, be it civilian or monger type, don't work long-term for me. I've never been much of a self-examiner, and would say only in the recent decade or so have I come to terms with the way I am. I've tried to stay true and committed to one partner in the past, but realize now that this is a futile exercise.

To make matters worse, I really enjoy being with a long term partner. Basically, I want my cake, and I want to eat it too. And why not? To quote Bodyshopper in the Milwaukee Streetwalkers thread, "We are the conquerors!. If you guys haven't checked him out yet, please do so, he is doing great, godly work.

From 15 years old until my early thirties, I fucked any woman I could get my hands on. Thinking back on it reminds me of an ad that was posted in the Metro Times probably in the late 80's early 90's. You senior gents will remember the ads from people looking for hookups posted before the internet days. It read something like "Taking on all comers, all sizes, shapes, ages, colors. Walk, crawl, drag or carry to me. I will do all". I immediately thought to myself, "That's me! Even when I married in my early 30's to a great gal, I loved her, and felt it was time, but I was still fucking other women (mostly civilian) right up to, and after the wedding. Amazingly, the marriage survived almost a decade; even with me getting mildly busted a time or two. Around this time period, I discovered adultfriendfinder.com and it was like shooting fish in a barrel for me. I had 2 girl 3 somes, fucked some dudes wives in front of them, went to swinger parties, gangbangs, fucked a huge variety of races, etc. This was easy for me to pull off because my day job was remote (very rare at the time), and I had a side evening gig as a musician (like Sanctimonious6 I believe), so it was common for me to be out late. I have items checked on my fuckit list that most typical guys would only dream of; and still so many more to check off.

After divorcing at around 40, I got into the dating apps. Match, plenty of fish, etc. My game was better, I was in decent shape. It was a complete free-for all. Unbelievable. So many women on these dating sites were recently divorced or out of long term relationships and just wanted to get fucked by a half way decent looking guy who could buy them dinner and a drink or two. There were plenty of weekends where I might have 5-6 dates with different women. They all didn't end in sex, but many did. My success rates was probably around 50%. I had a steady progression of regular girlfriends as well.

I've slowed down in recent years; in my mid 50's now. As I said earlier, I've come to grip with the fact that I will always need some variety. A few years ago I found a partner who I think will be long term. We aren't a great match sexually. She has a low sex drive, and I am slowing down as I said. We fuck maybe 2-3 times per month. Mostly for her to feel she is providing her womanly duty towards me, and me providing my manly duty to her. On a level we don't discuss, I think she knows that I sometimes seek out other options and is ok with that. Everything else between us that comes with a committed relationship is great. Companionship, cuddling, spending nights, social activities, etc. Also, we are equals financially, which helps a lot I think. There are reasons I won't divulge, but this relationship may only last for another 5 years or so. Like a few of you guys have mentioned, I'm still in decent shape and could probably pass for mid-forties. If I end up completely single again, I will be exploring Thailand, Phillipines, German FXX clubs, etc.

There is another aspect of this type of double life that works for me; even if it's a bit twisted. I find that in my vanilla relationships, I prefer for sexual things to stay vanilla. It's in my mongering side that I enjoy cumming on a woman's face, 3 somes, pictures, videos, etc. There are women in my past that come to mind that I've had the most amazing wild experiences with, but I could never wife her up or girlfriend her up for that very reason. As a mild example, I really enjoy K9, but only on the monger side. I mean, I will fuck my girlfriend doggie style, but I would never be the one to initiate that. Maybe one of you smart gents will psycho analyze me. LOL.

I envy you guys that can keep a long term sugar baby, FWB's, UTR's or regulars at strip clubs, etc. This never works long term for me. Even with all-time favorites that I have the most amazing sex and chemistry with, it isn't long before the need for variety wins out. Thankfully, due to my lower drive these days, I'm not caving in to the worst GPS I've ever seen. Instead, I'm patiently seeking out diamonds in the rough at reasonable costs.

Again, sorry for the long winded, off-topic rambling. But I think it's good to share our thoughts. You never know when someone else can get some insight on themselves after reading. I know I have learned some things from some of you fine gentlemen, and I thank you for that.

JD.

"If I haven't fucked 10,000 women by the time I die, I will have failed as a man..Ray Pugh.

By chance have you been diagnosed with ADHD?

Long story short, I get bored quickly in relationships after the initial chase and courtship. I would have a smoking hot, financially-secure girlfriend and Inwas still chasing other tail. Civilians, strippers, coeds, hookers, massage, escorts, etc. From my 20's to my 40's I was banging hundreds of girls, body count into the thousand (s).

Always joked about having ADHD and was finally dx'd in my mid 40's. I then learned that ADHD can wreak havoc on relationships, my wandering eye and dick. So all that time the problem was truly me, with a giant assist from ADHD.

[Passenger]

I'm finding this discussion very interesting, and it got me wondering about something else.

How did you all first find out about the strip clubs that offered extra activities?

See my reply to Jd2011.

[Passenger]

Sad to say. I used to go all of the time in the mid 90's to maybe 2002. Mostly went to players. I had no idea at that time. The best I would hope for was a handful of juggs, grinding on my dick thru pants, or maybe a nipple suck. It wasn't until I found this forum and joined (screen name gives away the date) that I found out about all that can be done. As I said earlier though, I don't go through often now. The cramped booths just don't do it for me.

Other than a couple Detroit clubs (think Duchess, Booby Trap) and maybe Legs, it was extremely, extremely rare. You were getting the normal treatment. VIP rooms at 8 Mile clubs were open rooms with benches initially. The next step after table dances was the strippers would carry a box (step stool) and dance in front of your chair. The next phase was the lap dance at your seat. Etc etc etc.

I've been doing strip clubs since 1981, when a table dance was just that. The girl danced on top of your table and don't think about touching them. I did think about it, did it and almost got tossed.

I broke my cherry in a Hamilton club. Even then it was so rare (open room of chairs) that another dancer ratted us out, and both the dancer and I got tossed from the club that day. Early 2000's.

There's probably only a handful of guys in here with as much experience as I have. I could write a history of the metamorphosis of Detroit strip clubs over the past 45 years.

To me, the tipping point was the time after 9/11. Michigan and Detroit started sliding into their own private recession while much of country still boomed. For whatever reason dancers turned into hookers and the clubs were mostly ok with it. Eventually it led to the plush VIP rooms at Penthouse, LS, FC, BTs, Panteion, Coliseum, etc. But it was the dive clubs that led the way.

I cannot count how many 8's 9's and 10's that I banged back in the Golden Age.

[Jd2011]

Just speaking from my own experience brother. I should have clarified that. LOL.

Not true, friend, when you factor in hormonal changes due to menopause. Unless what you're trying to say is that you're boning my wife, in which case ima have to hunt you down and end you LOL.

[Sanctimonious6]

And I dont mean this with any disrespect my brother. But, people rarely ever get sick of actual sex.they just get sick of sex with their partner.

Not true, friend, when you factor in hormonal changes due to menopause. Unless what you're trying to say is that you're boning my wife, in which case ima have to hunt you down and end you LOL.

[FrostBytePing]

I'm finding this discussion very interesting, and it got me wondering about something else.

How did you all first find out about the strip clubs that offered extra activities?

I've always had a fantasy about banging a stripper in the club and would dance around the question when I was travelling for work, but never had any luck. I was in a zero-sex relationship from 2015-2020 and broke up right before COVID hit. Needless to say the next few years were depressing for me. I switched some meds and one of the side effects was a brutal increase in my sex drive. I had zero desire to be in a relationship so decided to start looking around at strip clubs just to at least "fill the spank bank" so to speak.

I was near Silver Criket one day and decided to pop in and drank more than I expected, and one thing led to another and I was in the back room with a girl offering sex. That kicked off the habit, I did some googling and found this site and TUSCL and found that detroit was well known for brothels. The SC girl was cute but wasn't anything special, so I just assumed the girls that would offer FS were all going to be lower on the attractive end.

Then one day I decided to visit Flight Club annnnnnnd was in shock that this drop dead gorgeous blonde was willing to do everything in the VIP.

[Jd2011]

Sad to say. I used to go all of the time in the mid 90's to maybe 2002. Mostly went to players. I had no idea at that time. The best I would hope for was a handful of juggs, grinding on my dick thru pants, or maybe a nipple suck. It wasn't until I found this forum and joined (screen name gives away the date) that I found out about all that can be done. As I said earlier though, I don't go through often now. The cramped booths just don't do it for me.

I'm finding this discussion very interesting, and it got me wondering about something else.

How did you all first find out about the strip clubs that offered extra activities?

[AngelsMan]

I1234,

Thank you for your reply! Yes, it was difficult to handle for many years; and yes, it created a lot of resentment in me. Eventually, I learned to change my attitude and accepted my wife's limitations, and instead renewed and redoubled my attentions to her, to show that have not lost my interest in her. Even though there is no chance of us having sex again, I treat her as playfully as I treat my actual sex partners, and my wife is happier, and I am no longer resentful.

You might be surprised by how willing are the women in this industry are to offer advice on how to fix your problems at home and interest your wife in sex again.

The affairs with the married women ended with their pregnancy, but the friendship did not end. Those relationships continued for a long time, in which our conversations changed to bragging about our kids, LOL.

Yes, I am doing okay with hack guy needs satisfied by much younger women, and having fuckit list items fulfilled that would never happen with my wife is even more exciting.

WK.

So many of us here in the same boat. I'm 60, married 37 years to a complete knockout. She knows that I'm still very attracted to her. But she has zero sex drive. We've had sex 4 times in the last 11 years, and 2 of those occasions, she was drunk. She pushes me away every time I reach out. Imagine what that does for a mans psyche getting rejected like this. Like many of you, even though I'm 60, I'm very fit and look much younger. Still have game imo. But "imo" is part of the problem. Wife shows zero desire for me physically, so I have to base my opinion of still having game based on complements I get from the ladies at the club. And yea, their job is to sell a line of BS to strip us of our money, but there are some whom I've known for a good 5-8 yrs that are genuine (so I think LOL). Here in K'zoo area, we don't have the extra clubs, so part of the enjoyment I get is the hunt. Building that friends relationship for the occasional ITC or OTC date. And there have been several of those, and seldom is there money involved. Very much a FWB relationship. Now mind you, if the wife knew, I'd be toast. And I don't want that because I deeply love here and our 3 kids. She found out about me having an affair about 7 yrs ago but we worked through it. Trust is completely gone. She took over all the finances and insists I keep location services on at all times. She watches me like a hawk. So why do I risk fucking up my marriage again and keep doing this? Addiction? Who knows, but I keep mongering, rolling the dice every time I travel or leave the house. The ladies just check some boxes that my wife is incapable of. Mainly, they give me some sense of feeling desired, because after all the rejections from my wife, my confidence is shot.

[Incognito1234]

For a moment, I thought this might be a soft ad for Adult Friend Finder. 😂 But honestly, your story felt very genuine and was a great read. It also gave me quite a bit to think about. Thanks for sharing, JD.

I'm finding this discussion very interesting, and it got me wondering about something else.

How did you all first find out about the strip clubs that offered extra activities?

[Jd2011]

Haha. No problem my brother. Unfortunately AFF hasn't been good like that for a LONG TIME. I gave up on it years ago.

For a moment, I thought this might be a soft ad for Adult Friend Finder. 😂 But honestly, your story felt very genuine and was a great read. It also gave me quite a bit to think about. Thanks for sharing, JD.

[Arianabp]

For a moment, I thought this might be a soft ad for Adult Friend Finder. 😂 But honestly, your story felt very genuine and was a great read. It also gave me quite a bit to think about. Thanks for sharing, JD.

I know it's off topic, but I'm very intrigued with the recent conversation centered around reasons we monger, and the ways we monger, and how it all works with any vanilla relationship we may have. So, I feel I need to chime in with my take. Again, if you feel this is off-topic for the thread, please ignore.

For me, the greatest joy, and biggest problem, is my need for variety. Because of this, most relationship forms, be it civilian or monger type, don't work long-term for me. I've never been much of a self-examiner, and would say only in the recent decade or so have I come to terms with the way I am. I've tried to stay true and committed to one partner in the past, but realize now that this is a futile exercise.

To make matters worse, I really enjoy being with a long term partner. Basically, I want my cake, and I want to eat it too. And why not? To quote Bodyshopper in the Milwaukee Streetwalkers thread, "We are the conquerors!. If you guys haven't checked him out yet, please do so, he is doing great, godly work.

From 15 years old until my early thirties, I fucked any woman I could get my hands on. Thinking back on it reminds me of an ad that was posted in the Metro Times probably in the late 80's early 90's. You senior gents will remember the ads from people looking for hookups posted before the internet days. It read something like "Taking on all comers, all sizes, shapes, ages, colors. Walk, crawl, drag or carry to me. I will do all". I immediately thought to myself, "That's me! Even when I married in my early 30's to a great gal, I loved her, and felt it was time, but I was still fucking other women (mostly civilian) right up to, and after the wedding. Amazingly, the marriage survived almost a decade; even with me getting mildly busted a time or two. Around this time period, I discovered adultfriendfinder.com and it was like shooting fish in a barrel for me. I had 2 girl 3 somes, fucked some dudes wives in front of them, went to swinger parties, gangbangs, fucked a huge variety of races, etc. This was easy for me to pull off because my day job was remote (very rare at the time), and I had a side evening gig as a musician (like Sanctimonious6 I believe), so it was common for me to be out late. I have items checked on my fuckit list that most typical guys would only dream of; and still so many more to check off.

After divorcing at around 40, I got into the dating apps. Match, plenty of fish, etc. My game was better, I was in decent shape. It was a complete free-for all. Unbelievable. So many women on these dating sites were recently divorced or out of long term relationships and just wanted to get fucked by a half way decent looking guy who could buy them dinner and a drink or two. There were plenty of weekends where I might have 5-6 dates with different women. They all didn't end in sex, but many did. My success rates was probably around 50%. I had a steady progression of regular girlfriends as well.

I've slowed down in recent years; in my mid 50's now. As I said earlier, I've come to grip with the fact that I will always need some variety. A few years ago I found a partner who I think will be long term. We aren't a great match sexually. She has a low sex drive, and I am slowing down as I said. We fuck maybe 2-3 times per month. Mostly for her to feel she is providing her womanly duty towards me, and me providing my manly duty to her. On a level we don't discuss, I think she knows that I sometimes seek out other options and is ok with that. Everything else between us that comes with a committed relationship is great. Companionship, cuddling, spending nights, social activities, etc. Also, we are equals financially, which helps a lot I think. There are reasons I won't divulge, but this relationship may only last for another 5 years or so. Like a few of you guys have mentioned, I'm still in decent shape and could probably pass for mid-forties. If I end up completely single again, I will be exploring Thailand, Phillipines, German FXX clubs, etc.

There is another aspect of this type of double life that works for me; even if it's a bit twisted. I find that in my vanilla relationships, I prefer for sexual things to stay vanilla. It's in my mongering side that I enjoy cumming on a woman's face, 3 somes, pictures, videos, etc. There are women in my past that come to mind that I've had the most amazing wild experiences with, but I could never wife her up or girlfriend her up for that very reason. As a mild example, I really enjoy K9, but only on the monger side. I mean, I will fuck my girlfriend doggie style, but I would never be the one to initiate that. Maybe one of you smart gents will psycho analyze me. LOL.

I envy you guys that can keep a long term sugar baby, FWB's, UTR's or regulars at strip clubs, etc. This never works long term for me. Even with all-time favorites that I have the most amazing sex and chemistry with, it isn't long before the need for variety wins out. Thankfully, due to my lower drive these days, I'm not caving in to the worst GPS I've ever seen. Instead, I'm patiently seeking out diamonds in the rough at reasonable costs.

Again, sorry for the long winded, off-topic rambling. But I think it's good to share our thoughts. You never know when someone else can get some insight on themselves after reading. I know I have learned some things from some of you fine gentlemen, and I thank you for that.

JD.

"If I haven't fucked 10,000 women by the time I die, I will have failed as a man..Ray Pugh.

[Jd2011]

Completely agree man. The difference for me is the fact that I don't have the desire to continually bone the same woman. So getting sick of sex is ok on some level, as long as I have another outlet. Or more importantly, as long as I have an ever changing outlet. LOL.

I'm sure we could compare similar notes. I can't even recall the amount of stories I've heard from women who had gone on dates with dudes where they had to pay, dude was living in moms basement, etc.

And I don’t mean this with any disrespect my brother. But, people rarely ever get sick of actual sex….they just get sick of sex with their partner.

I was 45 when my first marriage ended, and had very little experience with mainstream "dating," so I had no idea what to expect when I signed up for Match. My experience, like yours, was shockingly good. It turns out that for a lot of the women over 35 or so on the apps, you're considered a good catch if you are straight, employed, and not completely grotesque looking. Many of them have suffered blows to their self-esteem from their shitty failed marriages, started working out and lost weight post-divorce, and are eager to have their desirability validated. As long as they were decent looking, I was happy to oblige. Ironically, I ended up marrying the only one who made me wait a few dates to bone. But she was way hotter than all the others and had multiple suitors. Until she got sick of sex, I felt like I had hit the jackpot.

[Sanctimonious6]

After divorcing at around 40, I got into the dating apps. Match, plenty of fish, etc. My game was better, I was in decent shape. It was a complete free-for all. Unbelievable. So many women on these dating sites were recently divorced or out of long term relationships and just wanted to get fucked by a half way decent looking guy who could buy them dinner and a drink or two. There were plenty of weekends where I might have 5-6 dates with different women. They all didn't end in sex, but many did. My success rates was probably around 50%. I had a steady progression of regular girlfriends as well.

I was 45 when my first marriage ended, and had very little experience with mainstream "dating," so I had no idea what to expect when I signed up for Match. My experience, like yours, was shockingly good. It turns out that for a lot of the women over 35 or so on the apps, you're considered a good catch if you are straight, employed, and not completely grotesque looking. Many of them have suffered blows to their self-esteem from their shitty failed marriages, started working out and lost weight post-divorce, and are eager to have their desirability validated. As long as they were decent looking, I was happy to oblige. Ironically, I ended up marrying the only one who made me wait a few dates to bone. But she was way hotter than all the others and had multiple suitors. Until she got sick of sex, I felt like I had hit the jackpot.