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  1. #7507
    I doubt the visitors will have money after spending thousands on tickets, flights, food and hotels.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayM  [View Original Post]
    Will the World Cup happening in LA bring out more or less dancers to clubs?

  2. #7506
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    World Cup

    Will the World Cup happening in LA bring out more or less dancers to clubs?

  3. #7505
    Quote Originally Posted by Balcony  [View Original Post]
    Hey, thanks for the thoughtful response!

    To be honest, I don't want to cut off contact with her just yet. I really like her and we already have some really fun things planned in the future together. It would really suck for me to break things off right now. However, I'm taking your advice very seriously and I may end up doing something like that in the future. I actually like your idea of breaking off contact with her and then throwing a hail Mary to see if there's any chance of rebuilding the relationship from a more genuine standpoint. It seems pretty clear that I may have to do something drastic like that in order to re-frame how she sees me.
    .
    Be prepare for some serious heartbreak. Strippers and pretty girls in general are heartless and will move on fast after break ups. The void that you created in time, money, complements and emotional support will be quickly filled by other guys. You'll be replaced almost immediately. Strippers with childhood trama (daddy issues) which a lot of them experienced , will not allow themselves to be attached to relationships. Something to do with fear of abandonment. Good luck.

  4. #7504
    Quote Originally Posted by Roland2418  [View Original Post]
    She looks like the fresh young type that is going to throw out a crazy number to start because she doesn't really want to do it. But eventually will turn to the darkside at a regular high number that some guys will pay. Similar to Ariel.
    I had run in with Ariel when she first started. She was 2 week in when I took her into VIP. I acted on a tip from her friend Katie. At first I wanted Katie but she insisted she doesn't do extras and referred me to see Ariel because she gives head.

    In the VIP I inquired about extras. She said was interested and willing to work something out for us. She casually floated 500 to see how I would react. I thought that was beyond reason for half service so I declined. Then she dropped the price to 250 and clarified that it was for full service which honestly caught me off guard. Getting a taste of the new pretty girl at that price was an easy decision. As pretty as Ariel is, she was just an ok laid. Her spinner body lacks the tits and ass I like to grab. Also she refused lay on her back on the couch so we were limited to what we can do. But I managed to have a lot of fun with her. We chatted briefly before we parted ways.

    I went to the club the following week and took her to VIP for seconds. I told her I want the same from last time and she didn't seem thrilled about it. She asked me for the tips before we begin. As I was getting ready, I could see that she was just sitting there uneasy. Then she turned to me with teary eyes filled with confusion and regret and said "I can't do this". I asked her what's wrong. She said she can't go through with this with so little money. She quickly took the tips out of her purse handed it back to me then put her panties back on to guard her pussy from me. I want to be compassionate for her but my selfishness only lets me think about the money I spent on the VIP room and I'm getting nothing from her. She ending up giving me HJ as a concession. We talked a little bit. I asked her if I was the first man she gave extras to. She has a regular that she brought over from Bliss and he was her first. I asked if he was tipping her 500 and she said no, 600. When time was up she just ran out. She pretend she can't see me ever since.

  5. #7503
    Quote Originally Posted by CumDripp  [View Original Post]
    Ehh I think its totally fine to keep going out with her if you enjoy it. Are you being taken advantage of and being charged high prices, yes. But I mean if you have fun and enjoy her company, its fine to keep hanging out.

    However, once you want to actually form a "real relationship" with them, then it becomes a problem and might be unhealthy "mental" wise. In general its going to be hard for most of these girls to leave the industry in general unless they keep getting a consistent flow of income. If you're used to getting an "INSANE" salary for a particular action and then suddenly not for "hanging out" pretty hard to stop. Especially since getting into the industry "money" is probably a "HIGH VALUE" for most of them.

    I feel like only way to actually realistically date / marry someone would be able to afford to give her enough for her to quit the club for say 6-12 months. Form a 1 on 1 relatinship. And then see where the both of you are. Granted you're probably going to have to supply her "FOR LIFE" and she'll probably be a Stay AT Home Mom, and she'll pursue whatever she wants. But to even do this man yall are actually "Big Ball'and respect to yalls hustle".
    Yeah, I agree. I think money could ultimately end up being the deciding factor in all of this. It seems we're on the same page in our line of thinking.

    Quote Originally Posted by CumDripp  [View Original Post]
    I mean in my mind $500 for a date is still pretty darn good. They don't have to "actively hustle," they are there just for the ride as long as you're not a Bore Slob. Also this money comes without fees and "probably taxes. " Usually girls aren't that busy and would be hanging out on a non-work day. (It's literally a free expensed day / night). Taxes / Fees are probably the biggest factor literally 40%+ discount since we live in CA and are probably in the higher brackets.

    I mean the top chicks easily pulling a couple grand on busy nights.
    I would also add that another benefit of doing business outside the club is that the girl doesn't have to give a cut to the venue. For example, some places take 40% of the money that a girl makes from selling dances at the club. So, if you paid $180 for a trip to the VIP room, the club gets $72 and the girl only keeps $108. This is why a lot of strippers end up offering extras in the first place. There's not nearly as much money to be had from only offering clean dances. Just be careful that the venue doesn't find out that you're doing any of this. Some managers are very strict when it comes to that sort of thing.

  6. #7502
    Quote Originally Posted by DrizzyDrizz  [View Original Post]
    It depends how much the girl you are trying to take out makes on an average night factoring all her regulars. If she makes 1000+ in tips a night, she'll give you a discount based on her average since it's easier for her to go out for a few hours than it is to be at the club. Also it depends how much you're giving her normally. If you give her 400 weekly and she's a busy girl, she probably won't take less than 1000. If you give her 300 and she's not a busy girl, she would probably take 500-600. Also it depends how often you plan on seeing each other so if its weekly then she'll give you a better price since its dependable money. Ultimately, talk it out from your perspective to her and it has to make sense for both of you guys in terms of money and time.
    I mean in my mind $500 for a date is still pretty darn good. They don't have to "actively hustle," they are there just for the ride as long as you're not a Bore Slob. Also this money comes without fees and "probably taxes. " Usually girls aren't that busy and would be hanging out on a non-work day. (It's literally a free expensed day / night). Taxes / Fees are probably the biggest factor literally 40%+ discount since we live in CA and are probably in the higher brackets.

    I mean the top chicks easily pulling a couple grand on busy nights.

  7. #7501
    Quote Originally Posted by Balcony  [View Original Post]
    Hey, thanks for the thoughtful response!

    To be honest, I don't want to cut off contact with her just yet. I really like her and we already have some really fun things planned in the future together. It would really suck for me to break things off right now. However, I'm taking your advice very seriously and I may end up doing something like that in the future. I actually like your idea of breaking off contact with her and then throwing a hail Mary to see if there's any chance of rebuilding the relationship from a more genuine standpoint. It seems pretty clear that I may have to do something drastic like that in order to re-frame how she sees me.

    I'm just worried that it won't work given some of the things that I know about this girl. She's told me in the past that she enjoys living the stripper lifestyle and has no desire to get a more normal job anytime soon. She even claims to have never been in a serious long-term relationship before. Like many strippers, she's in the game for the money and men are her means of getting it. I'm well aware of this. So, asking her to see me without the financial incentives may be a tough sell indeed. On the other hand, I know other guys in similar situations have done it and I remain hopeful that maybe I, too, can find a way.

    But as you've pointed out, having a mostly transactional type of relationship probably isn't healthy. So, I completely understand if other people think it's a bad idea for me to keep chasing this girl. I don't expect everyone to agree with my decisions. It is what it is.

    In any case, I know that I'll probably have to resolve this situation one way or another eventually. But for now, I'm just brainstorming ideas and kicking the can down the road. I'll be cool with whatever eventually ends up happening either way.
    Ehh I think its totally fine to keep going out with her if you enjoy it. Are you being taken advantage of and being charged high prices, yes. But I mean if you have fun and enjoy her company, its fine to keep hanging out.

    However, once you want to actually form a "real relationship" with them, then it becomes a problem and might be unhealthy "mental" wise. In general its going to be hard for most of these girls to leave the industry in general unless they keep getting a consistent flow of income. If you're used to getting an "INSANE" salary for a particular action and then suddenly not for "hanging out" pretty hard to stop. Especially since getting into the industry "money" is probably a "HIGH VALUE" for most of them.

    I feel like only way to actually realistically date / marry someone would be able to afford to give her enough for her to quit the club for say 6-12 months. Form a 1 on 1 relatinship. And then see where the both of you are. Granted you're probably going to have to supply her "FOR LIFE" and she'll probably be a Stay AT Home Mom, and she'll pursue whatever she wants. But to even do this man yall are actually "Big Ball'and respect to yalls hustle".

  8. #7500
    Quote Originally Posted by BoneRanger22  [View Original Post]
    She's doing this with about 5 different dudes. I cut her off.
    Bro likes the punishment.

    Thank you may he have another.

  9. #7499
    She's doing this with about 5 different dudes. I cut her off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balcony  [View Original Post]
    Hey, thanks for the thoughtful response!

    To be honest, I don't want to cut off contact with her just yet. I really like her and we already have some really fun things planned in the future together. It would really suck for me to break things off right now. However, I'm taking your advice very seriously and I may end up doing something like that in the future. I actually like your idea of breaking off contact with her and then throwing a hail Mary to see if there's any chance of rebuilding the relationship from a more genuine standpoint. It seems pretty clear that I may have to do something drastic like that in order to re-frame how she sees me.

    I'm just worried that it won't work given some of the things that I know about this girl. She's told me in the past that she enjoys living the stripper lifestyle and has no desire to get a more normal job anytime soon. She even claims to have never been in a serious long-term relationship before. Like many strippers, she's in the game for the money and men are her means of getting it. I'm well aware of this. So, asking her to see me without the financial incentives may be a tough sell indeed. On the other hand, I know other guys in similar situations have done it and I remain hopeful that maybe I, too, can find a way.

    But as you've pointed out, having a mostly transactional type of relationship probably isn't healthy. So, I completely understand if other people think it's a bad idea for me to keep chasing this girl. I don't expect everyone to agree with my decisions. It is what it is.

    In any case, I know that I'll probably have to resolve this situation one way or another eventually. But for now, I'm just brainstorming ideas and kicking the can down the road. I'll be cool with whatever eventually ends up happening either way.

  10. #7498
    Quote Originally Posted by SpruceGoose01  [View Original Post]
    I strongly agree with this advice. If you want to continue like this, no judgement. But this does not seem healthy for you based on what you've shared. If you really want to see if you can make it work as a real relationship, you'd need to separate yourself from the customer she sees, which will be difficult at best. My recco would be to tell her you have really enjoyed the time she's shared with you and that you appreciate everything, but that you are realizing this is not a healthy situation for you and not the type of relationship you want long-term. Keep it kind but short, don't overexplain. Then stop texting, stop contact. Completely. Let it sit for awhile. If you are trying to re-frame how she sees you, you can't continue contact. Then, several months from now (4-longer is better), reach out and send her one note. Say you miss the time you guys shared, and see if she'd be interested in getting together to see if there is a real connection, not in a transactional sense. If she says yes, give it your A-game, not by overtrying or overspending but by being kind, being yourself, and showing up.
    Hey, thanks for the thoughtful response!

    To be honest, I don't want to cut off contact with her just yet. I really like her and we already have some really fun things planned in the future together. It would really suck for me to break things off right now. However, I'm taking your advice very seriously and I may end up doing something like that in the future. I actually like your idea of breaking off contact with her and then throwing a hail Mary to see if there's any chance of rebuilding the relationship from a more genuine standpoint. It seems pretty clear that I may have to do something drastic like that in order to re-frame how she sees me.

    I'm just worried that it won't work given some of the things that I know about this girl. She's told me in the past that she enjoys living the stripper lifestyle and has no desire to get a more normal job anytime soon. She even claims to have never been in a serious long-term relationship before. Like many strippers, she's in the game for the money and men are her means of getting it. I'm well aware of this. So, asking her to see me without the financial incentives may be a tough sell indeed. On the other hand, I know other guys in similar situations have done it and I remain hopeful that maybe I, too, can find a way.

    But as you've pointed out, having a mostly transactional type of relationship probably isn't healthy. So, I completely understand if other people think it's a bad idea for me to keep chasing this girl. I don't expect everyone to agree with my decisions. It is what it is.

    In any case, I know that I'll probably have to resolve this situation one way or another eventually. But for now, I'm just brainstorming ideas and kicking the can down the road. I'll be cool with whatever eventually ends up happening either way.

  11. #7497

    Concur

    I strongly agree with this advice. If you want to continue like this, no judgement. But this does not seem healthy for you based on what you've shared. If you really want to see if you can make it work as a real relationship, you'd need to separate yourself from the customer she sees, which will be difficult at best. My recco would be to tell her you have really enjoyed the time she's shared with you and that you appreciate everything, but that you are realizing this is not a healthy situation for you and not the type of relationship you want long-term. Keep it kind but short, don't overexplain. Then stop texting, stop contact. Completely. Let it sit for awhile. If you are trying to re-frame how she sees you, you can't continue contact. Then, several months from now (4-longer is better), reach out and send her one note. Say you miss the time you guys shared, and see if she'd be interested in getting together to see if there is a real connection, not in a transactional sense. If she says yes, give it your A-game, not by overtrying or overspending but by being kind, being yourself, and showing up. And if she declines, you have your answer. It's a long shot, but probably the only healthy way to handle this.

    One other thing. You need to do some serious thinking on whether or not you want to have a relationship with someone who works in this way. I learned the hard way I could not date someone who was actively working "entertaining" other guys, and kind of struggled dating a kind, beautiful Brazilian who offered extras before we started dating, but stopped completely while we were together. But dating a dancer that didn't offer a menu was a lot easier for me. And of course, pretty much every dancer has some unique things you will need to deal with, so you may want to sidestep these things completely. You really need to figure out what you want so you don't hurt yourself (or the girl).

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland2418  [View Original Post]
    Bro, no judgement at all but you probably should get out of this thing with this one girl asap. From these details, does not seem like converting her is going to happen. Maybe try to get at least one freebie as you close the door LOL.

  12. #7496
    One additional detail is that COI is under LA Country Sheriff patrol, they do not have their own PD. They have a local station nearby but serves the whole area.

    But it would probably just take one high profile crime to shake things up. You wonder as a cash rich operation if they are prepared for something like a strong arm robbery attempt.

    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    The responsibility is up to local police. City of Industry police department is chill and has real crimes to solve. They will bust places for drugs and weapons, they'll investigate violence. More importantly, COI is an industrial city - only 250 people live there. 67,000 people work there at warehouses and manufacturing. So they have always focused on protecting people and businesses, and that includes entertainment. Clubs pay taxes, bring in business for everyone else, and help people who just got off shift have a good time. There's not a lot of other places to relax after shift. Nobody is going to re-elect officials who ruin the local economy.

    Police enjoy strip clubs too, and no one wants to have the rep among his coworkers of being the one who shuts down a club everyone else is enjoying. In other cities, police only get involved when the boss tells them to and that's not going to happen when clubs area positive part of the community. To that point, there are no Karens complaining about strip clubs where they live because nobody lives in COI!

    Strippers making a living literally outnumber residents in this one unusual exception. If they can't work in COI, they would make money elsewhere and drive the economy there instead.

    Enforcement is dealt with at the city level, and it's their responsibility and jurisdiction.

  13. #7495
    Bro, no judgement at all but you probably should get out of this thing with this one girl asap. From these details, does not seem like converting her is going to happen. Maybe try to get at least one freebie as you close the door LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balcony  [View Original Post]
    I usually pay 1500, but it depends on the length of the date. A date that lasts around 24 hours together typically costs more. I pay for any extra costs, such as the price of food, tickets, etc. And sex is always part of the deal. Usually in a hotel.

  14. #7494
    Are you saying police shut them down? I thought it was understood they were just failed businesses that went under financially.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayM  [View Original Post]
    Hawaiian Theatre.

    Monarch's.

    Deja Vu.

  15. #7493
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    Posts: 21
    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    The responsibility is up to local police. City of Industry police department is chill and has real crimes to solve. They will bust places for drugs and weapons, they'll investigate violence. More importantly, COI is an industrial city - only 250 people live there. 67,000 people work there at warehouses and manufacturing. So they have always focused on protecting people and businesses, and that includes entertainment. Clubs pay taxes, bring in business for everyone else, and help people who just got off shift have a good time. There's not a lot of other places to relax after shift. Nobody is going to re-elect officials who ruin the local economy.

    Police enjoy strip clubs too, and no one wants to have the rep among his coworkers of being the one who shuts down a club everyone else is enjoying. In other cities, police only get involved when the boss tells them to and that's not going to happen when clubs area positive part of the community. To that point, there are no Karens complaining about strip clubs where they live because nobody lives in COI!

    Strippers making a living literally outnumber residents in this one unusual exception. If they can't work in COI, they would make money elsewhere and drive the economy there instead.

    Enforcement is dealt with at the city level, and it's their responsibility and jurisdiction.
    Hawaiian Theatre.

    Monarch's.

    Deja Vu.

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