Strip Club Reports

[CumDripp]

Hey, thanks for the thoughtful response!

To be honest, I don't want to cut off contact with her just yet. I really like her and we already have some really fun things planned in the future together. It would really suck for me to break things off right now. However, I'm taking your advice very seriously and I may end up doing something like that in the future. I actually like your idea of breaking off contact with her and then throwing a hail Mary to see if there's any chance of rebuilding the relationship from a more genuine standpoint. It seems pretty clear that I may have to do something drastic like that in order to re-frame how she sees me.

I'm just worried that it won't work given some of the things that I know about this girl. She's told me in the past that she enjoys living the stripper lifestyle and has no desire to get a more normal job anytime soon. She even claims to have never been in a serious long-term relationship before. Like many strippers, she's in the game for the money and men are her means of getting it. I'm well aware of this. So, asking her to see me without the financial incentives may be a tough sell indeed. On the other hand, I know other guys in similar situations have done it and I remain hopeful that maybe I, too, can find a way.

But as you've pointed out, having a mostly transactional type of relationship probably isn't healthy. So, I completely understand if other people think it's a bad idea for me to keep chasing this girl. I don't expect everyone to agree with my decisions. It is what it is.

In any case, I know that I'll probably have to resolve this situation one way or another eventually. But for now, I'm just brainstorming ideas and kicking the can down the road. I'll be cool with whatever eventually ends up happening either way.

Ehh I think its totally fine to keep going out with her if you enjoy it. Are you being taken advantage of and being charged high prices, yes. But I mean if you have fun and enjoy her company, its fine to keep hanging out.

However, once you want to actually form a "real relationship" with them, then it becomes a problem and might be unhealthy "mental" wise. In general its going to be hard for most of these girls to leave the industry in general unless they keep getting a consistent flow of income. If you're used to getting an "INSANE" salary for a particular action and then suddenly not for "hanging out" pretty hard to stop. Especially since getting into the industry "money" is probably a "HIGH VALUE" for most of them.

I feel like only way to actually realistically date / marry someone would be able to afford to give her enough for her to quit the club for say 6-12 months. Form a 1 on 1 relatinship. And then see where the both of you are. Granted you're probably going to have to supply her "FOR LIFE" and she'll probably be a Stay AT Home Mom, and she'll pursue whatever she wants. But to even do this man yall are actually "Big Ball'and respect to yalls hustle".

[StrawHat888]

She's doing this with about 5 different dudes. I cut her off.

Bro likes the punishment.

Thank you may he have another.

[BoneRanger22]

She's doing this with about 5 different dudes. I cut her off.

Hey, thanks for the thoughtful response!

To be honest, I don't want to cut off contact with her just yet. I really like her and we already have some really fun things planned in the future together. It would really suck for me to break things off right now. However, I'm taking your advice very seriously and I may end up doing something like that in the future. I actually like your idea of breaking off contact with her and then throwing a hail Mary to see if there's any chance of rebuilding the relationship from a more genuine standpoint. It seems pretty clear that I may have to do something drastic like that in order to re-frame how she sees me.

I'm just worried that it won't work given some of the things that I know about this girl. She's told me in the past that she enjoys living the stripper lifestyle and has no desire to get a more normal job anytime soon. She even claims to have never been in a serious long-term relationship before. Like many strippers, she's in the game for the money and men are her means of getting it. I'm well aware of this. So, asking her to see me without the financial incentives may be a tough sell indeed. On the other hand, I know other guys in similar situations have done it and I remain hopeful that maybe I, too, can find a way.

But as you've pointed out, having a mostly transactional type of relationship probably isn't healthy. So, I completely understand if other people think it's a bad idea for me to keep chasing this girl. I don't expect everyone to agree with my decisions. It is what it is.

In any case, I know that I'll probably have to resolve this situation one way or another eventually. But for now, I'm just brainstorming ideas and kicking the can down the road. I'll be cool with whatever eventually ends up happening either way.

[Balcony]

I strongly agree with this advice. If you want to continue like this, no judgement. But this does not seem healthy for you based on what you've shared. If you really want to see if you can make it work as a real relationship, you'd need to separate yourself from the customer she sees, which will be difficult at best. My recco would be to tell her you have really enjoyed the time she's shared with you and that you appreciate everything, but that you are realizing this is not a healthy situation for you and not the type of relationship you want long-term. Keep it kind but short, don't overexplain. Then stop texting, stop contact. Completely. Let it sit for awhile. If you are trying to re-frame how she sees you, you can't continue contact. Then, several months from now (4-longer is better), reach out and send her one note. Say you miss the time you guys shared, and see if she'd be interested in getting together to see if there is a real connection, not in a transactional sense. If she says yes, give it your A-game, not by overtrying or overspending but by being kind, being yourself, and showing up.

Hey, thanks for the thoughtful response!

To be honest, I don't want to cut off contact with her just yet. I really like her and we already have some really fun things planned in the future together. It would really suck for me to break things off right now. However, I'm taking your advice very seriously and I may end up doing something like that in the future. I actually like your idea of breaking off contact with her and then throwing a hail Mary to see if there's any chance of rebuilding the relationship from a more genuine standpoint. It seems pretty clear that I may have to do something drastic like that in order to re-frame how she sees me.

I'm just worried that it won't work given some of the things that I know about this girl. She's told me in the past that she enjoys living the stripper lifestyle and has no desire to get a more normal job anytime soon. She even claims to have never been in a serious long-term relationship before. Like many strippers, she's in the game for the money and men are her means of getting it. I'm well aware of this. So, asking her to see me without the financial incentives may be a tough sell indeed. On the other hand, I know other guys in similar situations have done it and I remain hopeful that maybe I, too, can find a way.

But as you've pointed out, having a mostly transactional type of relationship probably isn't healthy. So, I completely understand if other people think it's a bad idea for me to keep chasing this girl. I don't expect everyone to agree with my decisions. It is what it is.

In any case, I know that I'll probably have to resolve this situation one way or another eventually. But for now, I'm just brainstorming ideas and kicking the can down the road. I'll be cool with whatever eventually ends up happening either way.

[SpruceGoose01]

I strongly agree with this advice. If you want to continue like this, no judgement. But this does not seem healthy for you based on what you've shared. If you really want to see if you can make it work as a real relationship, you'd need to separate yourself from the customer she sees, which will be difficult at best. My recco would be to tell her you have really enjoyed the time she's shared with you and that you appreciate everything, but that you are realizing this is not a healthy situation for you and not the type of relationship you want long-term. Keep it kind but short, don't overexplain. Then stop texting, stop contact. Completely. Let it sit for awhile. If you are trying to re-frame how she sees you, you can't continue contact. Then, several months from now (4-longer is better), reach out and send her one note. Say you miss the time you guys shared, and see if she'd be interested in getting together to see if there is a real connection, not in a transactional sense. If she says yes, give it your A-game, not by overtrying or overspending but by being kind, being yourself, and showing up. And if she declines, you have your answer. It's a long shot, but probably the only healthy way to handle this.

One other thing. You need to do some serious thinking on whether or not you want to have a relationship with someone who works in this way. I learned the hard way I could not date someone who was actively working "entertaining" other guys, and kind of struggled dating a kind, beautiful Brazilian who offered extras before we started dating, but stopped completely while we were together. But dating a dancer that didn't offer a menu was a lot easier for me. And of course, pretty much every dancer has some unique things you will need to deal with, so you may want to sidestep these things completely. You really need to figure out what you want so you don't hurt yourself (or the girl).

Bro, no judgement at all but you probably should get out of this thing with this one girl asap. From these details, does not seem like converting her is going to happen. Maybe try to get at least one freebie as you close the door LOL.

[Roland2418]

One additional detail is that COI is under LA Country Sheriff patrol, they do not have their own PD. They have a local station nearby but serves the whole area.

But it would probably just take one high profile crime to shake things up. You wonder as a cash rich operation if they are prepared for something like a strong arm robbery attempt.

The responsibility is up to local police. City of Industry police department is chill and has real crimes to solve. They will bust places for drugs and weapons, they'll investigate violence. More importantly, COI is an industrial city - only 250 people live there. 67,000 people work there at warehouses and manufacturing. So they have always focused on protecting people and businesses, and that includes entertainment. Clubs pay taxes, bring in business for everyone else, and help people who just got off shift have a good time. There's not a lot of other places to relax after shift. Nobody is going to re-elect officials who ruin the local economy.

Police enjoy strip clubs too, and no one wants to have the rep among his coworkers of being the one who shuts down a club everyone else is enjoying. In other cities, police only get involved when the boss tells them to and that's not going to happen when clubs area positive part of the community. To that point, there are no Karens complaining about strip clubs where they live because nobody lives in COI!

Strippers making a living literally outnumber residents in this one unusual exception. If they can't work in COI, they would make money elsewhere and drive the economy there instead.

Enforcement is dealt with at the city level, and it's their responsibility and jurisdiction.

[Roland2418]

Bro, no judgement at all but you probably should get out of this thing with this one girl asap. From these details, does not seem like converting her is going to happen. Maybe try to get at least one freebie as you close the door LOL.

I usually pay 1500, but it depends on the length of the date. A date that lasts around 24 hours together typically costs more. I pay for any extra costs, such as the price of food, tickets, etc. And sex is always part of the deal. Usually in a hotel.

[Roland2418]

Are you saying police shut them down? I thought it was understood they were just failed businesses that went under financially.

Hawaiian Theatre.

Monarch's.

Deja Vu.

[Jay M]

The responsibility is up to local police. City of Industry police department is chill and has real crimes to solve. They will bust places for drugs and weapons, they'll investigate violence. More importantly, COI is an industrial city - only 250 people live there. 67,000 people work there at warehouses and manufacturing. So they have always focused on protecting people and businesses, and that includes entertainment. Clubs pay taxes, bring in business for everyone else, and help people who just got off shift have a good time. There's not a lot of other places to relax after shift. Nobody is going to re-elect officials who ruin the local economy.

Police enjoy strip clubs too, and no one wants to have the rep among his coworkers of being the one who shuts down a club everyone else is enjoying. In other cities, police only get involved when the boss tells them to and that's not going to happen when clubs area positive part of the community. To that point, there are no Karens complaining about strip clubs where they live because nobody lives in COI!

Strippers making a living literally outnumber residents in this one unusual exception. If they can't work in COI, they would make money elsewhere and drive the economy there instead.

Enforcement is dealt with at the city level, and it's their responsibility and jurisdiction.

Hawaiian Theatre.

Monarch's.

Deja Vu.

[SuperFreakOMG3]

The responsibility is up to local police. City of Industry police department is chill and has real crimes to solve. They will bust places for drugs and weapons, they'll investigate violence. More importantly, COI is an industrial city - only 250 people live there. 67,000 people work there at warehouses and manufacturing. So they have always focused on protecting people and businesses, and that includes entertainment. Clubs pay taxes, bring in business for everyone else, and help people who just got off shift have a good time. There's not a lot of other places to relax after shift. Nobody is going to re-elect officials who ruin the local economy.

Police enjoy strip clubs too, and no one wants to have the rep among his coworkers of being the one who shuts down a club everyone else is enjoying. In other cities, police only get involved when the boss tells them to and that's not going to happen when clubs area positive part of the community. To that point, there are no Karens complaining about strip clubs where they live because nobody lives in COI!

Strippers making a living literally outnumber residents in this one unusual exception. If they can't work in COI, they would make money elsewhere and drive the economy there instead.

Enforcement is dealt with at the city level, and it's their responsibility and jurisdiction.

I concur; cops aren't going to do anything if nobody complains. That's why you see strip clubs in seedy areas; no Karens, soccer moms, bored old white people or white kids to see stuff to complain about.

The one time I remember Synn getting raided was for drugs; one of the bouncers was dealing at the club.

One of my buddies was also at Dreams in Wilmington when it got raided. Turns out it wasn't for prostitution; one of the customers wives caught him at the club and called the police. Told them she was kidnapped and to come to the club asap, LOL.

[Download X]

I wonder if these clubs are actual money trees. Despite how much your family might think it's disgusting, it must be pretty solid owning a few of these clubs. It's the OC viet bikini coffee shops that are the ones LE look into and get busted and not the mile high SCs LOL.

The responsibility is up to local police. City of Industry police department is chill and has real crimes to solve. They will bust places for drugs and weapons, they'll investigate violence. More importantly, COI is an industrial city - only 250 people live there. 67,000 people work there at warehouses and manufacturing. So they have always focused on protecting people and businesses, and that includes entertainment. Clubs pay taxes, bring in business for everyone else, and help people who just got off shift have a good time. There's not a lot of other places to relax after shift. Nobody is going to re-elect officials who ruin the local economy.

Police enjoy strip clubs too, and no one wants to have the rep among his coworkers of being the one who shuts down a club everyone else is enjoying. In other cities, police only get involved when the boss tells them to and that's not going to happen when clubs area positive part of the community. To that point, there are no Karens complaining about strip clubs where they live because nobody lives in COI!

Strippers making a living literally outnumber residents in this one unusual exception. If they can't work in COI, they would make money elsewhere and drive the economy there instead.

Enforcement is dealt with at the city level, and it's their responsibility and jurisdiction.

[KevlarProof]

Mr. Kim is the owner of about 10 or so strip clubs in LA / OC area. He is the owner of the popular Synn Industry. A fat asian man in his 40's-50's that enjoys food (seriously everytime I evesdrop he is talking to his employees about the latest restaurant he's at and can talk about the dishes he ate in great detail.

I wonder if he could be the guy I met in the synn parking lot years ago and just handed me a ton of $10 off business cards out of his car, was a very low-key older Asian man.

I wonder if these clubs are actual money trees. Despite how much your family might think it's disgusting, it must be pretty solid owning a few of these clubs. It's the OC viet bikini coffee shops that are the ones LE look into and get busted and not the mile high SCs LOL.

[SuperFreakOMG3]

Who exactly is Kim? Drug dealer? What does he look like? What do we know about him?

Mr. Kim is the owner of about 10 or so strip clubs in LA / OC area. He is the owner of the popular Synn Industry. A fat asian man in his 40's-50's that enjoys food (seriously everytime I evesdrop he is talking to his employees about the latest restaurant he's at and can talk about the dishes he ate in great detail.).

I don't think he's a drug dealer as you mentioned.

Most of his employees say he is a good and fair boss. He's known to bus tables at 1 of his restaurants if an employee calls out sick or whatever, so very humble. Good businessman; he doesn't just own the strip club but also the entire strip mall it sits on (Synn Industry is in a strip mall with a Yoshinoya and 2 other restaurants, which Mr. Kim also owns.).

I haven't seen him in years so not sure what he's up to. Like I said he's pretty fat so he is not very healthy. For years prior I would see him at his various clubs and even at SR Industry just hanging out talking to the workers. Headhunting or just chilling, I'm not sure.

None of the dancers have said anything bad about him; so I'm pretty sure he doesn't creep on his employees. I have heard complaints about his friends that he brings into the club sometimes though.

He doesn't try to make a big deal about himself or his presence, again very humble. I remember him trying to get into one of his own clubs and 1 of the new bouncers stopped him and tried to press him for not doing the proper protocol (metal detector, frisk, etc) to which Mr. Kim sheepishly says "Oh sorry, I'm Mr. Kim. " to which the new bouncers apologized profusely. Mr. Kim told him he's doing a great job and don't worry about it. This shows not even some of his employees know what he looks like.

[GoodMicWork]

Who exactly is Kim? Drug dealer? What does he look like? What do we know about him?

[Balcony]

Out of curiosity, anyone know the market for these, have wanted to just get to a know a girl better outside and do a outing dinner / activity, and have been quoted 1500-2000 (as just the fee doesn't even include the food / misc). Is this on the higher end? Sex isn't even assumed / baked into the price. Maybe I'm just an old fart.

Haven't pulled the trigger as 500-1000 is probably closer to my limit.

I usually pay 1500, but it depends on the length of the date. A date that lasts around 24 hours together typically costs more. I pay for any extra costs, such as the price of food, tickets, etc. And sex is always part of the deal. Usually in a hotel.

It depends how much the girl you are trying to take out makes on an average night factoring all her regulars. If she makes 1000+ in tips a night, she'll give you a discount based on her average since it's easier for her to go out for a few hours than it is to be at the club. Also it depends how much you're giving her normally. If you give her 400 weekly and she's a busy girl, she probably won't take less than 1000. If you give her 300 and she's not a busy girl, she would probably take 500-600. Also it depends how often you plan on seeing each other so if its weekly then she'll give you a better price since its dependable money. Ultimately, talk it out from your perspective to her and it has to make sense for both of you guys in terms of money and time.

I usually see my girl about once a month, but I'm in constant contact with her over text messages.

Yes 1500 is a "make me do it" quote. An 18 year old S-Tier White girl would meet me for 400 because we got along well. Whereas even an A-Tier HYA told me she would quote "other guys" 1000 and up for fs because they didn't want to. She quoted me 400. There are ugly girls who will quote you and me 1000. The cost does not reflect quality but what they think of you.

Damn, looks like I got the price on the higher end of the spectrum. I pay 1500 or more. Bummer.

If it's the one I'm thinking of. Been there done that. She has multiple customers with this are arrangement. Dinner dates and hotel fucking.

Hotel fucking, yes. But we've done a lot more than just dinner. We've been seeing each other for a fairly long time now I've taken her pretty much everywhere you can imagine at this point. We've gone to the movies, theme parks, sporting events, etc.

I don't want to post her name here for everyone to see. She likes to keep things private and gets upset if I share too much info about her with other guys. Send me a DM and tell me who you think it is.

I think one key will be how big a gap there is between you and her in both age and looks if you have any shot. When you pay her for a date, is it a direct transaction or is it like gifts / travel / dinner? Have you had any time OTC with no payment? I have a reasonable guess who this is and maybe she doesn't have as many "miles" on her as some, so go all in quickly if you are serious. If not, just enjoy the ride and don't get too attached. Rotate in some others. Certainly don't knock her up.

Thanks for the advice!

Yeah, there's definitely a big age gap between me and her (I'm 17 years older), but I'm lucky in that I look a lot younger than I actually am. We also have a lot in common, so the age difference doesn't feel as significant. My looks aren't anything special though. I'm a short guy (5'4), so height is not doing me any favors. However, I'd like to think that I look ok outside of that. I'm not fat or bald or anything, so at least I've got that going for me.

As for payment, it's a direct transaction. I usually give her cash when we meet up at the start of the date. But I also cover any expenses, such as the cost of food, tickets, etc. I have not had any time OTC with no payment, but we're in constant contact with each other over text messages.

She's in her early twenties, so her mileage may indeed be somewhat lower than others, but I know for a fact that she's been around. It's no secret that she offers extras at the club, so I can only imagine what her body count must be. I'm definitely serious about her though and don't mind going "all in" as you put it. I've been with other girls during this time, but I keep coming back to her because I really like her above everyone else. The only issue is what she wants to do on her end. I'm worried that I might be stuck being categorized as a client in her mind.

You have to put in a lot of time and money and if you want her to stop dancing when you're together, you're going to have to financially support her reasonably to what her current lifestyle is. It helps a lot too if she feels like you are financially doing well enough. I feel like almost all girls that work get used to making a certain amount of money that doesn't take up a normal 9-5 so if they can maintain a level of normalcy (based on how much they are willing to sacrifice financially to be with you) they would be happy to leave this work behind. If the girl has a ton of regulars then you're going to have to be loaded assuming you don't look like Brad Pitt but if she really likes you and could see herself being with you for real, it mainly takes a lot of visits and you're going to have to help her out if you want her to stop dancing.

That makes sense. Unfortunately, I'm not rich and can't pay the girl a big salary like that. She knows what I do for work, so it's unlikely that I'll be able to win her over purely through financial incentives alone. She's also told me that she enjoys what she does and that she doesn't want to get a normal job again. So I think you're right about money being one of the biggest obstacles in my situation. But maybe things will change if I win the lottery or something. LOL.