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  1. #8690

    Re: The case of MongerWalker's guilt

    Quote Originally Posted by MongerWalker  [View Original Post]
    I reread the responses by my last post and I can't believe that all of you are basically telling to give up mongering , Instead a got nothing but a bunch of other mongers trying to guilt me.
    MongerWalker writes about finding "nothing but a bunch of other mongers trying to guilt me."

    Gentlemen, from a bubbling stew of symptoms, we now have a diagnosis: sociopath.

    Degrading and placing at risk the most important relationships in your life for your own pleasure, at their expense, are the actions of a sociopath. Simple.

    Guilt is barely possible, if at all, for a sociopath. Hurtful actions are always followed by nonsense like, "thinking with the little head," while your significant relationships die from mortal wounds you inflict on them. And the discussion meanders through notions of yolo and satisfying yourself doesn't hurt anyone if they don't find out and other excuses.

    Please you cannot be serious.

    So here is the recommended treatment plan imo:

    MongerWalker is likely going to keep mongering, he just wants approval from fellow mongers to assuage his barely perceptible guilt.

    Nothing wrong *morally* with mongering - the question is how you treat other people. Doing it on the down-low while betraying your significant others is playing with dynamite - sooner or later you'll blow up.

    Be prepared for your personal life to go up in flames and disintegrate to ashes.

    Understand that this was, is, and will be your fate, *because of who you are.*

    If your wife and family find a good man and situation after they toss you in a dumpster, try to take at least a little satisfaction for their success, especially if they deserve it.

    Hopefully younger mongers here can learn from this case study on how not to live a life. And how to recognize, and admit if necessary, the signs of being a sociopath.

    Cheers, MrGJ.

  2. #8689
    Quote Originally Posted by MongerWalker  [View Original Post]
    I reread the responses by my last post and I can't believe that all of you are basically telling to give up mongering bc I am now in a committed relationship. In a way, yea, I did expect all of you to say that, "you good. Keep doing what you doing and don't get caught. Yolo, you got to enjoy your life". Instead a got nothing but a bunch of other mongers trying to guilt me.
    If you stop mongering, there is more left for others. It's really simple economics, but they will guilt-trip the shit out of you to try to get you to stop. Just my 2 cents.

  3. #8688

    Pick a side?

    I reread the responses by my last post and I can't believe that all of you are basically telling to give up mongering bc I am now in a committed relationship. In a way, yea, I did expect all of you to say that, "you good. Keep doing what you doing and don't get caught. Yolo, you got to enjoy your life". Instead a got nothing but a bunch of other mongers trying to guilt me.

  4. #8687
    Quote Originally Posted by MongerWalker  [View Original Post]
    "I heard a lot of bad things about divorce, if the wife finds out don't guess what she will do. Be prepared to lose everything end up in jail because you needed stress relief. ".

    Why you say end up in jail?

    Are you assuming that mongering can land you there. Seems like as long as you are doing incall at reliable place the likelihood of that even happening is next to none. Unless you are in the middle of BJ and they bust the spot. Even than there is no evidence of money exchange for service. So they most likely let you go. So, that part was unnecessary to say. When mongering I would say stay away from street walkers as they could be part of sting operation and or new places. As a monger you got to vet the place before you go to the spot. Just my advice from someone that has been mongering since 26 and now in 40's. ".

    "Since you are an addict If you haven't been caught be diligent keep up the practices that have kept your from getting caught don't slip up. I heard of these sites where you can fight your sex addict. If you want to hang up the jersey for good check them out. I want you not to hurt your wife but at the same time you're an addict and some secrets are best taken to the grave if you can't help yourself. Also getting into hobbies, pastimes being part of something, charities, organizations keeping yourself occupied helps but then there's that girl who works the food box and all of a sudden you're caught. Be smart and be prepared"..
    So there is nothing wrong with mongering sex addict is not a bad things until you make poor decisions and its impacts your life negatively that's the bad thing. I don't think you are a bad person because you can't just flip a switch and all of a sudden your faithful, its actually rather painful and if you deny yourself the mental pain and problems yeah man that's real, people like to say free will etc but when you brain wants something it knows you all to well it will force you to give it or you will pay I know. Even though I don't think cheating should exist everyone has needs and just because someone has sex with someone doesn't mean they don't love their original spouse anymore, there is no such thing as cheating to me there is just bad relationship domestic violence, cursing at each other, backstabbing anything in a bad friendship, why keep your spouse hostage especially when one's is constantly raging like a feral beast and the other's is essentially done for. But to me it sounds like you are trying to justify cheating where you partner will get hurt if they found out.

    For me idk about others but I would like for the world to be a better place which means people stop hurting people especially in the way that you are describing, especially women why hurt them they are so beautiful. It sounds like to me your thinking with your privates not your head and you just married your wife just to hurt her. If you can tell me the reason why you got married I could give a better response, but I'd like to believe this is why women hate men. So this is not about mongering its about hurting people you're not thinking clearly and I know you're not because we both know what THE DRIVE feels like and never want to give that up. But have you really thought about it what happens when you get found out, or sure the chances are low but what if something stupid happens that you are not prepared for and you do something stupid. The addict is bad because you are here trying to justify yourself so that means that when life starts lifeing you may not be able to handle it properly and if you have kids you're really gunna hurt them and they may act out and the guilt will crush you.

    You have an idea of what will happen but when it happens its not one event in your life you are talking about the relationships for the rest of your life, and if things turn out for the worst how will you be able to handle it, do you have a solution can you identify all the possible problems and can you fix it, you may not be ready because you are not thinking with you head. When the house is empty you need to sit down at the table have a long conversation with yourself and really try to get to know yourself assess risk. The time to plan is now, because when the wife finds out she either grabs a knife and tries to kill you on the spot or she is silent and she is still yourself but she is emotionally detached or she goes on a tirade non-stop to you and everyone about how she hates you blab blah blah or she like "Yeah I've been cheating too so now we both know everything A-OK" if you are hurting someone and are trying to justify hurting someone you have to be ready. In the last scenario are you ready for the fact that she may have been cheating on your before you started and she ruins your life until you find out. What I want for you to do is to come clean ASAP, because I love women they are beautiful I'm the type not to hit a woman etc. But I know life is life and you can't just do that you can't make a big mess just because.

    Someone else said tiredness, I could see that happening although not to me, there are experiences in life you can experience and you learn about a whole new side of you so there's that.

    Best thing for you to do is to spend hours if not days when the home is empty sit down at the table, look at the mirror, or find a bench at a nice park or nice beach look at the view you know, maybe try to do it a 1 - 2 days after very through sex relief (it shouldn't make a difference but you decide) and just have that talk. I say that because even though its not the biggest thing in your life we are talking about your relationships with people for the rest of your life and the implications which I'm pretty sure you have not thought out thoroughly your wife, kids if they exist family to a significant degree this is the rest of your life were talking about. You have one life you want to live your best life for the rest of it. I think that's another said talk to a therapist etc maybe they show you something you couldn't think of on your own. But have that talk with yourself first because I don't want something stupid to happen where the the therapist tells your wife or your wife looks over your the health insurance and finds out etc, make sure its male therapist. There's more that I want to see but I'll leave it at that, I spent a good minute writing this post so welp that's what I got to say take it or leave it for the most part.

  5. #8686

    Reponse

    "I heard a lot of bad things about divorce, if the wife finds out don't guess what she will do. Be prepared to lose everything end up in jail because you needed stress relief. ".

    Why you say end up in jail?

    Are you assuming that mongering can land you there. Seems like as long as you are doing incall at reliable place the likelihood of that even happening is next to none. Unless you are in the middle of BJ and they bust the spot. Even than there is no evidence of money exchange for service. So they most likely let you go. So, that part was unnecessary to say. When mongering I would say stay away from street walkers as they could be part of sting operation and or new places. As a monger you got to vet the place before you go to the spot. Just my advice from someone that has been mongering since 26 and now in 40's. ".

    "Since you are an addict If you haven't been caught be diligent keep up the practices that have kept your from getting caught don't slip up. I heard of these sites where you can fight your sex addict. If you want to hang up the jersey for good check them out. I want you not to hurt your wife but at the same time you're an addict and some secrets are best taken to the grave if you can't help yourself. Also getting into hobbies, pastimes being part of something, charities, organizations keeping yourself occupied helps but then there's that girl who works the food box and all of a sudden you're caught. Be smart and be prepared".

    "if we call ourselves mongers and we are in this site than we are all sex addicts. Nothing wrong with that. Just means we have stronger biological needs than the average man and like to sample different flavors. Ain't no one trying get help for that. Only time to give up mongering is when you can't get it up anymore. ".

  6. #8685

    Mongering this summer

    What up mongers.

    Anyone hit up the holiday inn girls. What's been your experience? The times I been there the girls never look like the pics. When I have been there, they give the room number and I go and knock the door. 9 out of 10 times the girl opens and most of the time I turn it down and return to my car. No sense in settling for something you don't want. But just wondering if anyone been there lately and have gotten some good looking Latinas. I'm most interested in Latinas.

    It's too bad that Roosevelt Ave is pretty much shut down nowadays. At least you can look from afar before committing.

  7. #8684

    Monger 4 life

    Honestly, I been relationships with some gorgeous ladies and still made it my business to monger on the down low. Part of it is thrill speaking and knowing that you can get what you want with no strings attached and no whining and dining them. Ya acting like I am the only one that does this on the down low. There got to be others on this board that can relate and doing the same thing I am doing. I mean who wants to get old and feel like they did not take advantage of youth.

    Quote Originally Posted by MeatPack  [View Original Post]
    Not judging but kinda sounds you lack insight to the issue, not a 'bad guy" as you interpreted mr GREEN post, issue is clarity and asking yourself the hard questions like why do you leave a 'home p $#sy.

    Spend 1 to 2 hrs of your precious time for monger activity of short stay or hhr / hr and 'paying for it". Nobody is asking you to rebel against society but you are not really at where you really want to be{not in that marriage} what you were really asking 'help and support in rationalizing CHEATING. And that has nothing to do with MONGERING.

  8. #8683
    Quote Originally Posted by MongerWalker  [View Original Post]
    Sup mongers,

    Damn, I thought many would relate to the married / relationship and still monger. Did not expect such a harsh response. In the end it's amoral thing that we all have to go through. In the end we are all trying to fulfill a biological need with as many fine women as possible. It is and should be a seem less transaction. You pay for services and services are rendered in return. I mean, yea, I get the point of betrayal but it's not betrayal in the sense of the word. Your heart is still true to the person you are in a relationship with it's just that you wanted to taste other flavors. I don't see something wrong with that but maybe yea it is wrong. Would I like it to be done to me. No way. Do I have some sort of addiction. It's possible but it's not out of control. I know how to move and I know what spots are safe and secure, but one never knows for sure. I guess the ultimate security is getting a hotel room and calling the girl but that would be way too expensive. In the end I was trying to see if others were in committed relationships and monger on the down low. We all want to reach old age and feel like we banged out some of the most attractive women there are.
    Not judging but kinda sounds you lack insight to the issue, not a 'bad guy" as you interpreted mr GREEN post, issue is clarity and asking yourself the hard questions like why do you leave a 'home p $#sy.

    Spend 1 to 2 hrs of your precious time for monger activity of short stay or hhr / hr and 'paying for it". Nobody is asking you to rebel against society but you are not really at where you really want to be{not in that marriage} what you were really asking 'help and support in rationalizing CHEATING. And that has nothing to do with MONGERING.

  9. #8682
    Quote Originally Posted by MrGreenJeans8  [View Original Post]

    MeatPack writes that "the wife likely knows but stays because the good days are well beautiful and outweigh the bad days. She would leave when that balance shifts."

    Let's be real here. Talking about the one life you have to live. And who you are going to invest it with - or waste it and suffer every effing day.

    The only balance she should consider is the bank balance. Because the relationship is dead and gone, done in by betrayal - no relationship can survive significant betrayal like this. Anything left over is just smouldering ashes. No resurrection is possible because no trust or confidence is possible. Ever again. She will doubt everything you ever say or do for the rest of your life. Like being in prison under a life sentence.

    .
    I think the wife knows, he said after mongering things don't quite go well for 2 weeks? Just felt that was his wife exacting whatever passive-aggressive and revenge she can exert while keeping her hands hidden and safe.

  10. #8681

    Response to my last post

    Sup mongers,

    Damn, I thought many would relate to the married / relationship and still monger. Did not expect such a harsh response. In the end it's amoral thing that we all have to go through. In the end we are all trying to fulfill a biological need with as many fine women as possible. It is and should be a seem less transaction. You pay for services and services are rendered in return. I mean, yea, I get the point of betrayal but it's not betrayal in the sense of the word. Your heart is still true to the person you are in a relationship with it's just that you wanted to taste other flavors. I don't see something wrong with that but maybe yea it is wrong. Would I like it to be done to me. No way. Do I have some sort of addiction. It's possible but it's not out of control. I know how to move and I know what spots are safe and secure, but one never knows for sure. I guess the ultimate security is getting a hotel room and calling the girl but that would be way too expensive. In the end I was trying to see if others were in committed relationships and monger on the down low. We all want to reach old age and feel like we banged out some of the most attractive women there are.

  11. #8680

    Re: MongerWalker's disorders

    Quote Originally Posted by MeatPack  [View Original Post]
    About addiction: they never phrenning 24/7 . Some days / weeks you're just good and shine like a diamond, well, the rest of the time, you're like a junkie ripping.

    The question of addiction relates to the damage the addict causes himself and loved ones, not to mongering itself. Mongering has no inherent moral wrong as long as you don't hurt someone or yourself in the process. Mongering should work out every time for all concerned: the girl earns some extra green to help her in her life, and the monger enjoys something enjoyable.

    MeatPack writes that "the wife likely knows but stays because the good days are well beautiful and outweigh the bad days. She would leave when that balance shifts."

    Let's be real here. Talking about the one life you have to live. And who you are going to invest it with - or waste it and suffer every effing day.

    The only balance she should consider is the bank balance. Because the relationship is dead and gone, done in by betrayal - no relationship can survive significant betrayal like this. Anything left over is just smouldering ashes. No resurrection is possible because no trust or confidence is possible. Ever again. She will doubt everything you ever say or do for the rest of your life. Like being in prison under a life sentence.

    Come clean. Admit your betrayal and the damage it caused you and your family. Ask forgiveness. And listen to what she - and her lawyer - demand. Be good to her. And let her move on. From the effing ashes.

    Then you can enjoy mongering - and what's left of your life - as a bachelor. Maybe your family will talk to you sometimes - if so, consider yourself lucky at this point. You should have been and should now be a solo act.

    My $0.02.

    Cheers MrGJ.

  12. #8679

    Forgot to add

    Quote Originally Posted by MeatPack  [View Original Post]
    Look, dude, everything is going to be alright. Know why. You have 'kind of GUILT," which means you are not a fucked up psychopathic / anti-social.

    If you have relatives / friends that had addictions, you would've noticed this: therapy never works. They just hit rock bottom, and just stop!! The bs.

    I haven't mongered for more than 1 yr now. And that is saying a lot.

    Hope you stay safe until you get to that 'tiredness" feeling that eventually sets in for all addicts.
    About addiction: they never phrenning 24/7 . Some days / weeks you're just good and shine like a diamond, well, the rest of the time, you're like a junkie ripping.

    The wife likely knows but stays because the good days are well beautiful and outweigh the bad days. She would leave when that balance shifts.

  13. #8678

    Addicts and rock bottom

    Quote Originally Posted by MongerWalker  [View Original Post]
    Sup Mongers,

    How many you guys here middle age and married? Add me to the mix. Been mongering since 18. Love the hobby, love the variety but every time I monger I can't help but feel guilty. I am happily married but man got other urges to satisfy. So, at the end of day mongering has no emotions attached. It's just wang, bang see you never ma'am. I just do it for the thrill and to have me some fresh cooch. But they don't mean shit to me. I got my wifey at home but every time I monger I end up getting some kind of guilt and than some kind of bad karma. All of sudden bad shit starts to happen to me. Can anyone relate?
    Look, dude, everything is going to be alright. Know why. You have 'kind of GUILT," which means you are not a fucked up psychopathic / anti-social.

    If you have relatives / friends that had addictions, you would've noticed this: therapy never works. They just hit rock bottom, and just stop!! The bs.

    I haven't mongered for more than 1 yr now. And that is saying a lot.

    Hope you stay safe until you get to that 'tiredness" feeling that eventually sets in for all addicts.

  14. #8677

    Re: Should I feel guilty?

    Quote Originally Posted by MongerWalker  [View Original Post]
    How many you guys here middle age and married? Add me to the mix. Been mongering since 18. Can anyone relate?
    MongerWalker laying it out there, like a virtual group therapy session with monger psychiatrists. I applaud your call for help. Because you need it. And I'll happily explain it to you here. Less for your benefit than for the benefit of your wife and family. So let's go over the symptoms, and the needed medicine, shall we?

    "Middle age and married and mongering since 18?" Please you cannot be serious. End-stage addiction bound for disaster. And, fyi, no, not married. So can't relate. Not even a little. I like to think I wouldn't betray the most important person in my life. Be that a wife, gf, or any other valuable relationship.

    "The thing is you are a sex addict," writes our monger colleague DontForceIt. But that is not the worst of it. Which is a lack of character. And probably an anti-social personality disorder. Not curable. But treatable with intensive psychotherapy and focused dedication.

    "Happily married?" Doubt your wife is. Unless she somehow still believes the lie. Poor her.

    "At the end of day mongering has no emotions attached?" No. Not for me. Plenty of good emotions and memories for me.

    "Wang, bang see you never ma'am?" No. Not for me. Always try to see girls I will want to see again. So the convo and boning get better with time. Some of my regulars have become valuable relationships. Ones I nurture and protect and enjoy over the long-term.

    "They don't mean shit to me." No worries. You certainly mean even less to them. A monger should go into a session with the intention of respecting the girl. She is just making some extra green, and putting her health and safety at risk to do it. The least a monger-slob like you can do is to start showing proper respect. Cretins like you demotivate girls. And you degrade the quality the rest of us should be able to enjoy.

    "All of sudden bad shit starts to happen to me. Can anyone relate?" Makes perfect sense to me. Bad karma exists precisely for a life like yours. Your picture should appear next to the dictionary definition.

    So, glad you laid it out. Hope you get some help. See a psychiatrist. Come clean about your disorders. Work on fixing them. And on valuing, cherishing, and supporting your wife. Or else set her free so she can try to find a decent man, or at least live a dignified life free of the lies and deception injected into her life by you.

    And write again soon with your follow-up.

    Cheers, MrGJ.

  15. #8676
    Quote Originally Posted by MongerWalker  [View Original Post]
    Sup Mongers,

    How many you guys here middle age and married? Add me to the mix. Been mongering since 18. Love the hobby, love the variety but every time I monger I can't help but feel guilty. I am happily married but man got other urges to satisfy. So, at the end of day mongering has no emotions attached. It's just wang, bang see you never ma'am. I just do it for the thrill and to have me some fresh cooch. But they don't mean shit to me. I got my wifey at home but every time I monger I end up getting some kind of guilt and than some kind of bad karma. All of sudden bad shit starts to happen to me. Can anyone relate?
    I'd say stop, I don't understand why people monger and get married, just be in an open relationship why do you need to actively cheat on someone. In my opinion having sex with another while in a relationship should not affect the relationship one bit you can still love someone but have your primal needs, religion and society are no good and enslave us to that very stupid idea. It cost more to have a spouse than 200 prostitutes pay the mortage, the bills, the car not the taxes, the vacations, raise the kids by the time you get your life back you are all shriveled up. I'd use to lets my gf sleep with others all the time, but never at my own place.

    I heard a lot of bad things about divorce, if the wife finds out don't guess what she will do. Be prepared to lose everything end up in jail because you needed stress relief after the divorce and your wife put you there then end up homeless and go to jail again for rape because your needs were not met. If you have kids it make a bad situation worse. The thing is you are a sex addict, just like an alcoholic, drug addict you will always have the need and withdrawal is terrible because watch tv go online its too hard to not fall back in. That guilt you feel, its not enough to make you quit now isn't it?

    Since you are an addict If you haven't been caught be diligent keep up the practices that have kept your from getting caught don't slip up. I heard of these sites where you can fight your sex addict. If you want to hang up the jersey for good check them out. I want you not to hurt your wife but at the same time you're an addict and some secrets are best taken to the grave if you can't help yourself. Also getting into hobbies, pastimes being part of something, charities, organizations keeping yourself occupied helps but then there's that girl who works the food box and all of a sudden you're caught. Be smart and be prepared.

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