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  1. #17271

    Correct

    Quote Originally Posted by AzsWinGuy  [View Original Post]
    I sometimes wonder if some of these reports are shill reports. I also found out most of you are overpaying big time for no reason other than you like to flex the money you have.

    Anymore. In all honesty I have been reading this board to know where "not" to go.
    Not worth your energy bro. I have tried in the past to call out total BS reports (extreme BS) and these foos just parrot the same old "YMMV" lines, like we don't do our diligence. Use this site to know the places to avoid, but also what gets the job done. The most accurate reports are FR usually less than a paragraph.

  2. #17270

    It always circles back to names like Rachel. Great!

    Quote Originally Posted by AzsWinGuy  [View Original Post]
    The whole Top Tier is over rated.
    Quote Originally Posted by AzsWinGuy  [View Original Post]
    Now that I pissed some of you off. If anyone has a Rachel (Sun City location) sighting. That I would like to know.
    You're not wrong. Just talking about a different lane.

    Good sessions can happen anywhere. UTR, top spot, doesn't matter.

    But "top tier" was never about price or hype.

    It's about consistency.

    Same level, different day, different room. Still holds.

    That's what people are actually paying for.

    Even your own example points to it.

    Some don't just hit once. They carry it wherever they go.

    That's the difference.

    UTR can absolutely hit.

    Top tier just removes the guesswork.

    Some names... Like Rachel... Tend to settle the debate on their own.

  3. #17269

    Top Tier??

    The whole Top Tier is over rated. IMO. It is personal choice. I have went to a supposed Top Tier and turned around and walked out. What some describe as top tier is not IMO. And the "popular" places are not necessarily where the top tier is. I sometimes wonder if some of these reports are shill reports. I also found out most of you are overpaying big time for no reason other than you like to flex the money you have. I was at a UTR and a Top Tier name happened to be there and that is who I drew. This particular UTR is more than happy with $ as a tip and that tip was given up front. I get that it is a nice flex to have a lot of $$$ money to throw around. I am not in that group and feel like it may be more of a flex to get the same experience with less $$ A song from the group "Silverchair" called "Tomorrow" comes to mind.

    I talked to the Top Tier name as she was one that happened to speak decent English. She was in from CA top help out for a few weeks and was then going back to CA. I informed her up front that I was aware of the usual $. 60 at other popular locations but I come here as I can only usually budget $. She said no worry. I will take care of you. And she did every bit as much as she would have at a "Top Tier" location. I talked with here after as it was not busy as it was a UTR location. She told me the tip is based more on the guys attitude. (and appearance and "smell". She told me that the "hug" is a smell test and does make a difference). If the guy is nice, humble and up front most girls a perfectly happy and will give the same service for $ as they cocky flashing money guy that tips $$ or $$ She said some guys think it is attractive to flash money and the girls are happy to take it. But usually those guys are no fun and that they enjoy the $ encounter more than the $$ $$$ encounter. As they guy is more humble toward the girl. She said don't get me wrong. The girl is going to "act" like the money makes them happy. But behind the scenes is a different attitude toward that guy. More like sucker. I found her words very telling and informative.

    Anymore. In all honesty I have been reading this board to know where "not" to go. Interesting a location (43/ N) that was getting a lot of talk and is now back to being a UTR getting no talk has some very attractive therapists. Another UTR that always seems to have girls even more attractive than the supposed (Top Tier label) is Flamingo on G /51st. Yet they get no mention. Of course since it is always rotating it is not always the case.

    Not trying to rub anyone the wrong way. Just don't think the whole "top tier" thing label is necessary. And probably drives up the $$. Probably a good thing for you "Fat Boys" (not literal. Listen to the song). As it may drive away less $$. So go ahead and flex if you want.

    Now that I pissed some of you off. And perhaps enlightened some of you. If anyone has a Rachel (Sun City location) sighting. That I would like to know. Peace out. Back to my lurking and UTR's.

  4. #17268

    Yes, same Chanel at Spring is now at Red 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Lowbatteryboi  [View Original Post]
    I missed out on Chanel a a few years ago while they are at the peak of their business. She was really busy that I never got to try her. I cannot believe someone popular like her would return to Phoenix. Imma her a try and report back after doing so.
    Yes, it is the same Chanel that was at Spring. I recommend you see her before she gets too busy.

  5. #17267

    The Pattern Doesn't Miss... Sally at Red 8 Fits It.

    Food metaphors were never the point.

    They just make the pattern easier to taste.

    Used to write novels.

    Didn't need to this time.

    Red 8's been getting attention lately.

    Some of it earned. Some of it predictable.

    Maggie and Chanel are already being discussed. That part's already been established.

    Sally is where it gets interesting.

    Noticed some mentions about certain names working Top spots in the valley before.

    Let's just say... If Sally had that kind of background, it would make sense. You know what I mean?

    ...

    Most people write to describe what they felt.

    I track what repeats.

    Over time, a small group separates itself:

    Dream at Lucky.

    Bella at Infinity.

    Mango at Infinity.

    Crystal at Gold Panda.

    Bobo at Infinity.

    Lulu #1 at Cozy.

    Mandy at Cozy.

    Lulu #2 at Infinity.

    Momo at Red 8.

    No ranking. No noise. Just signal.

    At a certain level, "Top" tier becomes irrelevant.

    These are the reference point.

    Everything else isn't competing.

    It's being measured.

    That's where most people fall off.

    They follow names. They miss patterns.

    Now place Sally at Red 8 in that frame.

    If the list makes sense, so does she.

    If it doesn't, nothing here will change that.

    ...

    There was a moment worth noting.

    Quiet. Rare. Easy to overlook if you don't know what you're seeing.

    Standing table shower.

    Eye contact held. No break in rhythm.

    That kind of control doesn't show up often.

    When it does, it gets noted.

    She's not for guys chasing extremes or spectacle.

    Different lane. Different standard.

    Not a PSE lane.

    More GFE-leaning.

    Patterns don't lie.

    The signal's been consistent.

    The ones who see it don't need it explained.

    By the time it's obvious, it's already elsewhere.

  6. #17266

    +1 for Julie can confirm

    Quote Originally Posted by DJJing602  [View Original Post]
    Chowing down on some Thai food at a restaurant on West Northern and 51st and next door I saw this Thai Healing massage place. I decided why not checkout what's on the menu there. I met Julie, sexy spinner with a beautiful face, athletic bod, nice C tits and a wonderful personality. She gave me a nice sensual massage with lots of teasing. She is very high energy and playful. She straddle my head as she was working on my lower back as I was face down. She smelled really good so I reached my hands forward to squeeze her nice round butt. She giggle and told me you must be ready for more. We did the flip and tip as she saw my shaft was hard and ready for action. We went right to 69, pleasuring each other, lots of moaning and licking. Her head skills were amazing, but I wanted to fuck her badly. We switch to K9 where I started slowly, she felt so good, and I watched her face in the little mirror in the room as she was totally enjoying my strokes. We then switch to Mish, where we went into GFE mode. Lots of DFK, slow stroking and intense stares in each others eyes as I started to pounded her till I blew in the bag. I had to laugh at the end when she told me good job. I didn't notice anyone else on the way out. But this place is a hidden gem. Not Busy, good location.
    I also had a great time with Julie. Everything in this post is spot on.

  7. #17265

    Red 8 Sally

    Stopped in today and saw Sally. She was wearing cutoff shorts with a black, seemed like light sweater tank top. Sexy!! She looks very young with a beautiful smile and face. She opened the door and led me back to the room. I set the tip on the table and the condom I brought. She smiled when she saw that and came over and started DFK me. If you read my reviews you know this is something that sets girls apart for me and she definitely checked that box for me. We both kept kissing while taking each others clothes off. We kept kissing as I walked her to the edge of the table and had her sit down and lay back so I could do a little daty. I kissed and slowly sucked on her nipples and kissed my way down to her shaved pussy. I grabbed her legs pulled her closer and started kissing her clit and slowly started licking it. I did this for awhile until I found the sweet spot and started sucking and flicking my tongue and that was all it took. She was vocal and told me she was cumming. My face was covered with her juices and she said it's my turn. She had me lay down so she could return the favor. She worked on my nipples for a little bit while stroking junior and slowly kissed her way to the boys. She started sucking on my balls and continued to stroke my cock. I love it when they do that. Her BBBJ skills are really good. She had the perfect amount of suction with hand action. It felt amazing but I was ready to fuck her. I grabbed the condom I brought and she put it on and kept sucking. I had her lay on the edge of the table. I started off slowly. She is tighter than most girls. Felt amazing though. I was giving her deep slow strokes and her breathing started to pick up so I picked up the pace. This got her being more vocal and that's all it took and I blew in the bag. She stepped out to get rid of the supplies and to get a towel to clean me up. We still had time left so she cuddled with me and kept kissing me. She kept reaching down trying to get me hard again and said you ready for round two. I told her next time baby!! Think she said she would be there for the rest of the month. I will be back to see her. On the way out Maggie came over and started kissing on me and said come back tomorrow. LOL maybe!!

  8. #17264
    Quote Originally Posted by Desertvyce  [View Original Post]
    The owner used to run Freedom Massage back in around 2020 up till it closed. I had some FS fun with her back then but these days she seems pretty adamant about L1 only. I asked her why she opened there when there's already another spa on that corner and she said she didn't know the other one was going to reopen when she picked that location. The quality depends on who you get, they typically have two ladies working, the owner and a younger girl and the younger girl tends to switch out with varying quality. Had one do a reverse cowgirl straddling HJ where she leaned back so I could feel her tits from behind. She was pretty great while others were kind of unmemorable. The owner's massage is pretty good but she gets weirdly stingy about even OTC touching these days even though I've known her for a while.
    I think the other place in the same shopping center (Dream Spa / Eastern Foot Spa) may be closed now. It was a couple of weeks ago when I went by there. No sign on the door but it was locked during normal business hours.

  9. #17263

    Chanel Red 8 Spa

    Quote Originally Posted by GhedoKramer  [View Original Post]
    Was in the area and stopped by Red 8. I drew Chanel at the window. I was pleasantly surprised to discover a familiar face from the Big 6! You will find reports of how popular she was at Top, Aloha, Great, Spring, and Orange Blossom on this site and on RM. As a refresher, she is about 5'5", mid 20's, around 100 pounds, D's, with a very fit and trim body. She wore a black tank top that hid her boobs really well (you will be very surprised at how well it hides them) and black athletic shorts. With her GND look, she looks like someone you can find at the local gym at 5 pm, you know, the meat market hour LOL.

    Asked for a shower and she took me to the shower to scrub me down. She was already clean so she didn't need to get wet. Back to the room and started making out dfk. After a minute of that, she had me lie face down on the table to give me a catbath and suction on my back, cheeks, and thighs. She went back to my butt to spread 'them and give me a nice rim. Turned over for a BBBJ, very nice suction and no teeth. Put the cover on and hopped on acg. Continued our dfk make out and sucked on my nipples. She started to really get into it and used her strong legs to bounce on me vigorously. So much that our skin slapping could be heard from outside. We progressed to mish then standing mish. She came but in a demure manner as she shut her eyes and tried to suppress her moaning. Not what I'm accustomed to, but everyone has their own style. I'm just happy she enjoyed it. Afterwards, Chanel finished up and I got dressed. Got my souvenir bottle of water and was walked out. Highly recommend Chanel, both for service and nostalgia of the Big 6 days.
    Gheddo. I was able to see her when she first got to the Spa. Brings back old memories. Saw Maggie looking sexy as hell on the way out. They said another girl would be showing up and I haven't had a chance to see her. From reading the board it sounds like her name is Sally. I'm going to have to get with Momo and get the details on Sally. From the review about her it Looks like I will be making another east side trip soon!!

  10. #17262

    Same Chanel from Spring?

    Quote Originally Posted by GhedoKramer  [View Original Post]
    Was in the area and stopped by Red 8. I drew Chanel at the window. I was pleasantly surprised to discover a familiar face from the Big 6! You will find reports of how popular she was at Top, Aloha, Great, Spring, and Orange Blossom on this site and on RM. As a refresher, she is about 5'5", mid 20's, around 100 pounds, D's, with a very fit and trim body. She wore a black tank top that hid her boobs really well (you will be very surprised at how well it hides them) and black athletic shorts. With her GND look, she looks like someone you can find at the local gym at 5 pm, you know, the meat market hour LOL.

    Asked for a shower and she took me to the shower to scrub me down. She was already clean so she didn't need to get wet. Back to the room and started making out dfk. After a minute of that, she had me lie face down on the table to give me a catbath and suction on my back, cheeks, and thighs. She went back to my butt to spread 'them and give me a nice rim. Turned over for a BBBJ, very nice suction and no teeth. Put the cover on and hopped on acg. Continued our dfk make out and sucked on my nipples. She started to really get into it and used her strong legs to bounce on me vigorously. So much that our skin slapping could be heard from outside. We progressed to mish then standing mish. She came but in a demure manner as she shut her eyes and tried to suppress her moaning. Not what I'm accustomed to, but everyone has their own style. I'm just happy she enjoyed it. Afterwards, Chanel finished up and I got dressed. Got my souvenir bottle of water and was walked out. Highly recommend Chanel, both for service and nostalgia of the Big 6 days.
    I missed out on Chanel a a few years ago while they are at the peak of their business. She was really busy that I never got to try her. I cannot believe someone popular like her would return to Phoenix. Imma her a try and report back after doing so.

  11. #17261

    Good massage

    Quote Originally Posted by Xbbdc  [View Original Post]
    On vacation here and got my ass kicked doing all the things and in need of a real massage? Where's good to go? An HE offer is good enough, don't need FS.
    I recommend TianMei in chandler. Sometimes DIY, sometimes L1, but always a good massage. They also do back walking if you need it. Oh that reminds me sunrise spa also in chandler does a good massage. I've had L1 there and I think more is available. They also offer back walking.

  12. #17260
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigboobs  [View Original Post]
    What's the story with this place, it's in the same shopping center as the eastern foot massage that I believe closed? Any details?

    https://nbgad2022.wixsite.com/elite-spa-massage-az
    The owner used to run Freedom Massage back in around 2020 up till it closed. I had some FS fun with her back then but these days she seems pretty adamant about L1 only. I asked her why she opened there when there's already another spa on that corner and she said she didn't know the other one was going to reopen when she picked that location. The quality depends on who you get, they typically have two ladies working, the owner and a younger girl and the younger girl tends to switch out with varying quality. Had one do a reverse cowgirl straddling HJ where she leaned back so I could feel her tits from behind. She was pretty great while others were kind of unmemorable. The owner's massage is pretty good but she gets weirdly stingy about even OTC touching these days even though I've known her for a while.

  13. #17259

    Red Rose. Linda

    I have seen Linda a couple of times before and had an amazing time with her so I decided to find out where she is at and ended up at red rose spa in Glendale. Linda is a petite Chinese young lady with a beautiful little firm nice body. Great soft skin a pair of juice c cups and a beautiful smile. On top of a highly attractive Asian woman she sure knows how to hi the spot at your massage session. During my visit, I decided to stay for the full hour for. 70 to take advantage of her superior massage skills. After my masssage she began teasing and got nakd in from on my. I was hard at this point so she began teasing stroking and BBBJ. I couldn't pass the opportunity and requested 69. It was good and I can tell tha she really takes care of her hygiene. Tha felt amazing she has a nice pace and good technique also for BBBJ. Then got covered for her to jump on top for someCG action before switching to stading mish. After we just made some small talk while she used a warm hot towel to rub my legs and chest. She told me she'll be there another month so I would highly recommend Linda if you want a good Gf experience and are into petite cuties like her.

  14. #17258

    Throwback Thursday With Chanel, Formerly of the Big 6, at Red 8

    Was in the area and stopped by Red 8. I drew Chanel at the window. I was pleasantly surprised to discover a familiar face from the Big 6! You will find reports of how popular she was at Top, Aloha, Great, Spring, and Orange Blossom on this site and on RM. As a refresher, she is about 5'5", mid 20's, around 100 pounds, D's, with a very fit and trim body. She wore a black tank top that hid her boobs really well (you will be very surprised at how well it hides them) and black athletic shorts. With her GND look, she looks like someone you can find at the local gym at 5 pm, you know, the meat market hour LOL.

    Asked for a shower and she took me to the shower to scrub me down. She was already clean so she didn't need to get wet. Back to the room and started making out dfk. After a minute of that, she had me lie face down on the table to give me a catbath and suction on my back, cheeks, and thighs. She went back to my butt to spread 'them and give me a nice rim. Turned over for a BBBJ, very nice suction and no teeth. Put the cover on and hopped on acg. Continued our dfk make out and sucked on my nipples. She started to really get into it and used her strong legs to bounce on me vigorously. So much that our skin slapping could be heard from outside. We progressed to mish then standing mish. She came but in a demure manner as she shut her eyes and tried to suppress her moaning. Not what I'm accustomed to, but everyone has their own style. I'm just happy she enjoyed it. Afterwards, Chanel finished up and I got dressed. Got my souvenir bottle of water and was walked out. Highly recommend Chanel, both for service and nostalgia of the Big 6 days.

  15. #17257
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    Posts: 230

    Best massage?

    On vacation here and got my ass kicked doing all the things and in need of a real massage? Where's good to go? An HE offer is good enough, don't need FS.

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