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  1. #20659
    1. I love red heads.

    Pick a club don't worry about what you love. See who is dancing and who you find attractive. If no one then change clubs.

    2. You have to pay a VIP fee to access the area. Songs are $25 per song if you only get dances. If a girl offers you 3 songs for $100 this is a bad deal, you should get 4 songs.

    3. Is it rude to ask the girls directly if they're clean? It is not rude to ask, you can ask anything you want, but if she have 5 STDs she will still tell you she is clean. It is not a doctors office, but tell her you think pussy is pretty and you want to look at hers. Visually inspect, this can happen as part of asking her for a masturbation show. Then smell her pussy. If it doesn't smell good, take the loss and end the session. Let someone else stick their dick in a stinky pussy. I always wear a condom, but that is personal choice, I know many guys who only do bareback, and that is one of the reasons I wear a condom. I sometime select girls who other guys complain she refused bareback.

    4. How much of a risk is BBBJ? Risk are well documented for BBBJ and BBFS. Both are reasonably low, but this personal choice. If I am the only guys she is seeing that is fine. A girl in the club sees multiple guys a day so I don't take that risk. No judgement on those who do. Many do it for years.

    5. what do you guys do or talk about to start building a bit of connection.

    Here is some starter questions for you. Some girls are so jaded building a connection is impossible but most girls are open to it the same way any girl is.

    - How long have you worked here.

    - What other jobs did you do before dancing.

    - What is your ethnicity.

    - Did you play any sports.

    - Do you have any brothers or sisters.

    - What did you do for the COVID year.

    - Do you shave your pubic hair, and when is the first time you did that.

    - Did your prom date get lucky.

    - When is the first time you had sex with another girl.

    - What is your tip out tonight.

    - How did you choose to dance under the name Veronica.

    Maf, have a great time. I would suggest you go into the club if you see a stunning girl then tip her. But more than likely watch the entire rotation dance on stage once. Then select the top 3 or 5 girls tip them and ask them to join you. See which one you like best.

    Some girls will approach you, others will jump into the booth or chair next to you. There is generally followed convention in the club that other girls won't approach if a girl is already sitting with you. Some girls try to hog you so that you only have the choice of taking them. You have to be prepared to say please don't sit with me, I am not ready for your company yet. You have to be slightly rude.

    Negotiate in the main room, do not let her renegotiate in the VIP.

    Be prepared to walk out of the VIP if things go badly. There is never fixing them. Just cut your losses and move on.

    If you have a dispute with the girl walk out of the VIP find the attendant and ask him how many songs you were back there. Whatever number he tells you multiply it by $25 and pay her.

    Negotiate one price for the entire VIP session like $250 for everything.

    I can't stress this one enough. Never never never never never never never pay in advance. It is ok to show the girl you have enough money to pay her, put is back in your pocket. Do not leave it on the table where she can grab it. If you break this rule and pay in advance it is very likely you will be posting on here that some girl cheated you. If that happens don't feel bad, it has happened to all of us.

    MM.

  2. #20658
    Quote Originally Posted by JackOfClubs  [View Original Post]
    you got 15 minutes with her in the VIP which is excellent as one really can't expect too more than that from any stripper.
    I do not agree I can almost never finish in 15 minutes. I need 30 to 60 minutes. I can't remember the last time I had on under 15 minute VIP.

    MM.

  3. #20657
    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg5834  [View Original Post]
    It's strange. I would still go back with her again. They called her name several times to dance and she said she needs to get out there. We were back there 12-15 minutes and admittedly I don't finish easily. She kisses, her pussy is super tight and she has great muscles down there, we did it in several positions after the covered BJ and she did some dirty talk too. If a next time, I would clarify the BBBJ again and the time limit and just go back right after she dances. There was a guy there that day that went back with her for like 30 minutes who told me she was amazing and that he had been with her many times.
    I have never sampled Demonic, she is not really my type.

    But she has worked their for years. She has many loyal customers, and I have known several guys who have enjoyed spending time with her.

    I have also had other girls complain that she gets so many of the customers who come into the club.

    I am surprised to read a less positive report on her.

    MM.

  4. #20656
    Quote Originally Posted by FrostBytePing  [View Original Post]
    This is hardly limited to BTs. FC and LS both have skip fees. Sometimes the girls will just take the hit, but more often than not they'll ask you. I usually pay because if they're getting hit with a skip fee I screwed up my VIP timing.
    FBP,

    Several of the dancers are aware of how much time they have between stage sets. After their stage set they will go to the dressing room, smoke a little and then walk around the club. They negotiate to go to the VIP with a short amount of time before they are on stage. The hope is you will finish quickly song that they do less work to get your money.

    You can easily avoid this by negotiating with the girl and saying you want to go after her stage set. Most girls understand this is an experienced monger move and the ones who aren't trying to cheat you will be happy about this.

    MM.

  5. #20655
    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg5834  [View Original Post]
    I am one of the types who will spend 15-20 minutes with a dancer talking before going back, maybe having a drink just to get the vibe. Trying to avoid the scam.

    Again, my times have been limited but it's been great so far.
    H5,

    You experiences are normal. Anyone can go and have a great time as long as they realize there are scams out there and take the time to avoid them. You talking to the girls is clearly helping with that.

    You will eventually get cheated but it won't happen often.

    MM.

  6. #20654
    Quote Originally Posted by Maf7891  [View Original Post]
    Hi all, first, thanks for reading. I'll start by saying that I'm new to this. I found this site awhile back when I was thinking of hiring an escort. I didn't end up doing that, but while lurking I read some of the reports about extras inside Detroit strip clubs. The idea of extras from a stripper really enticed me, but unfortunately I live in the SW Michigan / Northern Indiana area where it sometimes feels like we're still stuck in the 1950's. So for that reason I've never had a reason to post. However next week I'll be in the Detroit area Mon-Wed. With this rare opportunity I definitely plan on engaging in this hobby! With that in mind I have some questions for all you veterans.

    1. I don't have unlimited money to last for three days, but I'm comfortable. I love red heads. A red head with green eyes and just a hint of freckles would have all the money in my wallet real quick. Other than that I don't really have a type other than wanting the girls to be mid 30's or younger in age. Not looking for BBFS, and probably not looking for BBBJ. I'm mostly going to be able to go during the day shift. With all that in mind, how should I prioritize the clubs based on girls, atmosphere and bang for your buck?

    2. I'm confused on the pricing a bit. It seems from what I've been reading on this forum that going to the VIP room in these places ranges from $15 to $30. That can't be right can it? When I've been to non extra strip clubs VIP room trips were like $150 for 30 minutes at minimum. So the math isn't mathing, am I missing something here?
    They're talking about the fee to the bouncer for going in back, typically $20 or less, sometimes a one time fee for the night & sometimes each time.

    The actual act with the dancer is more likely to be $300 or less.

    Uglier / thicker girls can be more easily bartered down.

    Bring yourself a little thing of alcohol wipes to use on yourself after the dances.

  7. #20653
    Quote Originally Posted by Maf7891  [View Original Post]
    With all that in mind, how should I prioritize the clubs based on girls, atmosphere and bang for your buck?
    1. I'd go to BT's day shift, or Silver Cricket (SC). With BT's being the higher end of the two. YMMV, that's just my preference and comfort zone.

    2. VIP is the cost to the house for the room. BT's $20, SC $10 last I was there. You negotiate services and such at the table or bar before you go back. Make sure to clarify pay at the end, not before services are rendered. You might be mixing up the two.

    3. Beyond covered, there's still some risk. You can have guys that go hundreds of times bare and get nothing, and some unlucky guy that gets something covered first time. You've got to make you're own call. I wouldn't bother asking the provider directly. She has no incentive to be truthful assuming she has something and knows it. She can also answer sincerely that she doesn't and just doesn't realize it. Waste of time. If you're that risk averse you need to carefully consider playing in this space.

    3. There's still risk with BBBJ to lots of different things. You're better off talking to WebMD to get into transmission statistics. I've gone both ways. So far, so good as far as I know. Covered isn't bad, was way better than I thought, you can finish in their mouth easier. They don't all swallow. I've only had one do that, God love her.

    5. I think you're overthinking this, but that's understandable. We were all new once. When you're approached, she will start off the talking almost always. Just go with the flow and bullshit with her. Go from there. If you click, great! If not, you probably won't in the VIP.

    6. I can recommend Alana or Demoinic at BT's. Devin is super cute in a conventional way, but tends to quote much higher prices. If you're older and feel like you 'still got it', she can be fun.

    If I had to recommend one poster here to search for pearls of wisdom it's Marlboro Mex. Look up his posts and threads over the last couple of years regarding do's and don't. Do that and you're as well prepared as you can be without an experienced wing man. Seriously.

    The other thing I'd say is don't expect to just find someone matching your description. The provider pool is what it is. You work with what you have, or try a different establishment. Keep your mind on your budget and risk tolerance. Negotiate at the table. Pay at the end, and don't play games.

  8. #20652

    Visiting Next Week New To The Club Scene

    Hi all, first, thanks for reading. I'll start by saying that I'm new to this. I found this site awhile back when I was thinking of hiring an escort. I didn't end up doing that, but while lurking I read some of the reports about extras inside Detroit strip clubs. The idea of extras from a stripper really enticed me, but unfortunately I live in the SW Michigan / Northern Indiana area where it sometimes feels like we're still stuck in the 1950's. So for that reason I've never had a reason to post. However next week I'll be in the Detroit area Mon-Wed. With this rare opportunity I definitely plan on engaging in this hobby! With that in mind I have some questions for all you veterans.

    1. I don't have unlimited money to last for three days, but I'm comfortable. I love red heads. A red head with green eyes and just a hint of freckles would have all the money in my wallet real quick. Other than that I don't really have a type other than wanting the girls to be mid 30's or younger in age. Not looking for BBFS, and probably not looking for BBBJ. I'm mostly going to be able to go during the day shift. With all that in mind, how should I prioritize the clubs based on girls, atmosphere and bang for your buck?

    2. I'm confused on the pricing a bit. It seems from what I've been reading on this forum that going to the VIP room in these places ranges from $15 to $30. That can't be right can it? When I've been to non extra strip clubs VIP room trips were like $150 for 30 minutes at minimum. So the math isn't mathing, am I missing something here?

    3. As I said I'm new this world. One thing I'm nervous about is bringing something home. Obviously I know condoms condoms condoms, but any other tips on being safe and disease free at the end of this? Things I should look for on the girls? Is it rude to ask the girls directly if they're clean?

    4. Related to above. I've seen post from people going bare. There is no way I'd risk bare FS, as much as I might want to. How much of a risk is BBBJ?

    5. I think I'll likely be in the camp of while this is transactional, some level of connection will likely make things better for both parties. Unfortunately I can't slow burn this as it's not like I'll be able to come back regularly. So I was wondering what do you guys do or talk about to start building a bit of connection before going to the VIP?

    6. Any girls that you lot recommend I try to find?

  9. #20651

    Demonic

    Quote Originally Posted by JackOfClubs  [View Original Post]
    As you mentioned, you got 15 minutes with her in the VIP which is excellent as one really can't expect too more than that from any stripper.

    Unless she likes you.
    I'm with you. Would go back with her again given the opportunity. She's hot and I agree with your comment.

  10. #20650
    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg5834  [View Original Post]
    Doomama, what is your experience at BT's? I feel pretty good about my limited experiences there. 5 visits since last August. Went to VIP 4 times. All were outstanding. Only potential negative is Demonic got called to dance and while she kept going at it for a few minutes she eventually stopped the session. I didn't know about the $20 you could pay to skip her dancing turn as I would have paid it. She had told me BJ would be a BBBJ but covered up right away and then we stopped before completion. It was probably about 15 minutes so I'm not going to complain much.

    I am one of the types who will spend 15-20 minutes with a dancer talking before going back, maybe having a drink just to get the vibe. Trying to avoid the scam.

    Again, my times have been limited but it's been great so far.
    As you mentioned, you got 15 minutes with her in the VIP which is excellent as one really can't expect too more than that from any stripper.

    Unless she likes you.

  11. #20649

    Demonic

    Quote Originally Posted by PinheadLarry  [View Original Post]
    I just met this well-known Demonic, pleasant demeanor; instantly rubbing the crotch as soon as she sat down. Seems like a sexy nerdy slim MILF type. Glad to know she might switch-up on the deal after we go in back.

    I prefer BTs for its easy to access location and variety of girls.
    It's strange. I would still go back with her again. They called her name several times to dance and she said she needs to get out there. We were back there 12-15 minutes and admittedly I don't finish easily. She kisses, her pussy is super tight and she has great muscles down there, we did it in several positions after the covered BJ and she did some dirty talk too. If a next time, I would clarify the BBBJ again and the time limit and just go back right after she dances. There was a guy there that day that went back with her for like 30 minutes who told me she was amazing and that he had been with her many times.

  12. #20648

    Demonic

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg5834  [View Original Post]
    Doomama, what is your experience at BT's? I feel pretty good about my limited experiences there. 5 visits since last August. Went to VIP 4 times. All were outstanding. Only potential negative is Demonic got called to dance and while she kept going at it for a few minutes she eventually stopped the session. I didn't know about the $20 you could pay to skip her dancing turn as I would have paid it. She had told me BJ would be a BBBJ but covered up right away and then we stopped before completion. It was probably about 15 minutes so I'm not going to complain much.
    I am one of the types who will spend 15-20 minutes with a dancer talking before going back, maybe having a drink just to get the vibe. Trying to avoid the scam.

    Again, my times have been limited but it's been great so far.
    I just met this well-known Demonic, pleasant demeanor; instantly rubbing the crotch as soon as she sat down. Seems like a sexy nerdy slim MILF type. Glad to know she might switch-up on the deal after we go in back.

    I prefer BTs for its easy to access location and variety of girls.

  13. #20647
    Quote Originally Posted by DooMama7  [View Original Post]
    I'm on the IR right now and when I come back I'll make sure to wear my gloves, long story short some of these women are burning.

    Stay safe.
    False alarm and false positive, sorry for the scare but I would still wrap it up and get tested.

  14. #20646
    Quote Originally Posted by HeeJunk  [View Original Post]
    This didn't age well.
    Actually false alarm, so I'm back on the prowl (j / k unless I get a test from a partner saying they are clean) May play it safe and wear protection.

  15. #20645
    Quote Originally Posted by DooMama7  [View Original Post]
    Just feels good to me, also like to see my genetic gunk leave out of vagina like spoiled milk.
    This didn't age well.

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