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  1. #13461
    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeaded  [View Original Post]
    I'm 55 - doing this 30 years. This post is a reflection on my mileage, and why it has varied. I'd love to hear your own experiences.

    In the early days, I was awkward and self-conscious. I'm a good-looking guy, but a nerd. My friends call me Sheldon (from Big Bang Theory) because all I do is talk about science.

    After a few hundred sessions, the anxiety goes. You're wiser. You've learned from mistakes. You don't realize how much you've optimized these interactions.

    When your regular sees that you don't go through her shit when she's in the bathroom, when you always do what say you'll do, when she knows she can tell you her real name and situation and you won't use it against her, and, most importantly, that you're on her side. Things change. They invite you to come to their home. They open up. She'll call you every now and then and ask you for a favor that only friends would ask for. You deliver. And she does too.

    She asks if you've been tested. She tells you where she is in her cycle. You have BBFS and you're both comfortable with it.

    That's how mileage has changed for me. It's not because I offered more money, had more charm or looks, etc.

    The mileage you're going to get as a new guy is a reflection of her dealing with the reality that guys will pull a condom off when she turns for doggie, or give her a counterfeit bill, etc.

    For some of the slutty ones, yeah, mileage is a function of how many dollars short she is for her next fent hookup. But otherwise, mileage is a reflection of our own behavior.

    So when people come on this board asking for the BBFS providers. We need to remember that the BBFS that is worth it is not bought. It's earned.
    Compare some of your stories with her other "regulars"! Pretty sure you will find she shares her real name, address, calls them on the phone to just talk and goes BB with them as well. It's happened to me with two different girls over the last ten years. I still see them both but understand my position and theirs. I might be considered a close friend but at the end of the day I'm still just an ATM!

  2. #13460

    Both of you have experiences to share of value

    TwoHeaded is, in my experience, right in many ways that map with my experiences. The better you treat a provider, often the better treatment you will get. This is very true if you become a regular.

    But my experience also aligns with Cec00. Women who do this 99.999% of the time are only doing it for the money, and you are where they get the money. They have learned manipulation skills and wield them -- maybe not maliciously, but consciously and purposefully. You may get more because of your better treatment and respect, but another guy gets more (maybe even more than you do) because he pays them for it. Just remember Sasha in Casablanca who said: I love you. But he pays me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cec00  [View Original Post]
    You seem like a good guy and this may be a little shocking. That same experience that you have with that exact same provider will do BBFS with another client that she just met for the first time for 1 rose more. She will ask you for YOUR test but she won't show you hers. She will treat you like a million bucks and leave the date with you and do 2 other dates with guys for less money and talk about you.

    That is the nature of this business and that is why this board helps keep people SAFE. Are there exceptions that are like you described, of course, but is the rule and the vast majority like I just described? 100%.

    As some other Senior Members said, and they are way smarter than I am, we are an ATM to these girls. Do not let yourself fall into believing otherwise, if only to protect yourself. This shit is like boxing: Protect yourself at all times. Just my 2 cents brother.

  3. #13459
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeaded  [View Original Post]
    She asks if you've been tested. She tells you where she is in her cycle. You have BBFS and you're both comfortable with it.

    That's how mileage has changed for me. It's not because I offered more money, had more charm or looks, etc.

    The mileage you're going to get as a new guy is a reflection of her dealing with the reality that guys will pull a condom off when she turns for doggie, or give her a counterfeit bill, etc.

    For some of the slutty ones, yeah, mileage is a function of how many dollars short she is for her next fent hookup. But otherwise, mileage is a reflection of our own behavior.

    So when people come on this board asking for the BBFS providers. We need to remember that the BBFS that is worth it is not bought. It's earned.
    You seem like a good guy and this may be a little shocking. That same experience that you have with that exact same provider will do BBFS with another client that she just met for the first time for 1 rose more. She will ask you for YOUR test but she won't show you hers. She will treat you like a million bucks and leave the date with you and do 2 other dates with guys for less money and talk about you.

    That is the nature of this business and that is why this board helps keep people SAFE. Are there exceptions that are like you described, of course, but is the rule and the vast majority like I just described? 100%.

    As some other Senior Members said, and they are way smarter than I am, we are an ATM to these girls. Do not let yourself fall into believing otherwise, if only to protect yourself. This shit is like boxing: Protect yourself at all times. Just my 2 cents brother.

  4. #13458

    YMMV: 30 Year Retrospective (what I've learned about why YMMV)

    I'm 55 - doing this 30 years. This post is a reflection on my mileage, and why it has varied. I'd love to hear your own experiences.

    In the early days, I was awkward and self-conscious. I'm a good-looking guy, but a nerd. My friends call me Sheldon (from Big Bang Theory) because all I do is talk about science.

    After a few hundred sessions, the anxiety goes. You're wiser. You've learned from mistakes. You don't realize how much you've optimized these interactions.

    When your regular sees that you don't go through her shit when she's in the bathroom, when you always do what say you'll do, when she knows she can tell you her real name and situation and you won't use it against her, and, most importantly, that you're on her side. Things change. They invite you to come to their home. They open up. She'll call you every now and then and ask you for a favor that only friends would ask for. You deliver. And she does too.

    She asks if you've been tested. She tells you where she is in her cycle. You have BBFS and you're both comfortable with it.

    That's how mileage has changed for me. It's not because I offered more money, had more charm or looks, etc.

    The mileage you're going to get as a new guy is a reflection of her dealing with the reality that guys will pull a condom off when she turns for doggie, or give her a counterfeit bill, etc.

    For some of the slutty ones, yeah, mileage is a function of how many dollars short she is for her next fent hookup. But otherwise, mileage is a reflection of our own behavior.

    So when people come on this board asking for the BBFS providers. We need to remember that the BBFS that is worth it is not bought. It's earned.

  5. #13457
    Quote Originally Posted by BiggDogg70  [View Original Post]
    Based on my decades of expirence in this world no AA typically indicates that they have a handler. I am sure for some it is preference. Some people don't like Asian women or Latinas, but the no AA is typically code for I have management.
    My read on "no AA": there's about a 0% chance that this post is a LE sting.

  6. #13456
    Quote Originally Posted by IAmAPenguin  [View Original Post]
    I've had success with both dayuse and hotelsbyday. You can find nice enough place for under 80.
    Days Inn Bonita was recommended to me by an Eros provider for "partial days". They're close to the airport. I would tell them my flight was leaving at 7 pm and I needed to stay a few hours (whatever). I checked in wearing business attire. Did this about ten times.

  7. #13455

    Been there, done that

    Quote Originally Posted by NewBreed2236  [View Original Post]
    Recently saw Khloe (link listed below). Had a good first conversation. Comms got a little spacey near the time of meeting but we finally made it work. The picture were accurate but as soon as we laid down and she had me in her hands she started to upsell $$ for CBJ and double for FS. Her attitude was terrible from start to finish. I didn't get robbed per se but I definitely felt like it. She tried to push for an h but I insisted on hh which saved me a bit but lost more then I'd like to admit to a stripper working a HJ like we were in a VIP room. I hope this helps and no one falls into her trap. She's been in the city a few times. Save your money. Much better out there.

    https://www.eros.com/florida/naples/...3261.htm?cat=1
    Very similar encounter but I must say she is a good looking gal. That said I left feeling exactly the same as this guy.

  8. #13454
    Quote Originally Posted by BigFlipST  [View Original Post]
    I started noticing more and more don't allow AA. Why is that? And these are big girls LOL, not small girls.
    Based on my decades of expirence in this world no AA typically indicates that they have a handler. I am sure for some it is preference. Some people don't like Asian women or Latinas, but the no AA is typically code for I have management.

  9. #13453

    Sam

    Negative. Her link is down. She was dark hair thick younger girl. I will post a pic when I return from cancer center.

  10. #13452

    Curious to know

    Wanted to set up time with this one so it would be nice to know.

  11. #13451

    There's always more to the story

    Just another data point, but one that is totally out of the control of the monger is that they have an AA BF / Partner who has put that restriction on them. Why? I never inquired, just was told this.

    Quote Originally Posted by VetteDrvr  [View Original Post]
    To be honest. COMPLETELY HONEST from the provider's perspective. It isn't a SIZE issue with the AA clients. It is an ATTITUDE issue.

    NO ONE likes being treated poorly, that particular client population tends to have a stereotypical treatment of the staff. NOT SAYING ALL. But ENOUGH that the reputation is there. IF THIS IS YOU. , or someone you know, take it to heart and help out.

    THAT IS WHAT THIS BOARD IS ALL ABOUT -.

    If NOT you. Congrats. And thank you for supporting single mothers 😛.

  12. #13450
    Quote Originally Posted by NewBreed2236  [View Original Post]
    Recently saw Khloe (link listed below). Had a good first conversation. Comms got a little spacey near the time of meeting but we finally made it work. The picture were accurate but as soon as we laid down and she had me in her hands she started to upsell $$ for CBJ and double for FS. Her attitude was terrible from start to finish. I didn't get robbed per se but I definitely felt like it. She tried to push for an h but I insisted on hh which saved me a bit but lost more then I'd like to admit to a stripper working a HJ like we were in a VIP room. I hope this helps and no one falls into her trap. She's been in the city a few times. Save your money. Much better out there.

    https://www.eros.com/florida/naples/...3261.htm?cat=1
    She's a total rip off. Well known up north as such. Reviews easy to find by the phone number. Appears she's branching out to FL to find more suckers.

  13. #13449
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackNWhite  [View Original Post]
    I see she got a armed robbery charge. I don't know the details and I won't find anyone guilty of a charge until they have their day but man. That doesn't seem in her character in the least. And the fucking kids. Such a shame. Seems the end for most of these girls is either death or the klinker.
    https://skipthegames.com/posts/port-...a/303103817658

    This one?

  14. #13448

    Avoid Khloe

    Recently saw Khloe (link listed below). Had a good first conversation. Comms got a little spacey near the time of meeting but we finally made it work. The picture were accurate but as soon as we laid down and she had me in her hands she started to upsell $$ for CBJ and double for FS. Her attitude was terrible from start to finish. I didn't get robbed per se but I definitely felt like it. She tried to push for an h but I insisted on hh which saved me a bit but lost more then I'd like to admit to a stripper working a HJ like we were in a VIP room. I hope this helps and no one falls into her trap. She's been in the city a few times. Save your money. Much better out there.

    https://www.eros.com/florida/naples/...3261.htm?cat=1

  15. #13447
    Quote Originally Posted by BigFlipST  [View Original Post]
    I started noticing more and more don't allow AA. Why is that? And these are big girls LOL, not small girls.
    To be honest. COMPLETELY HONEST from the provider's perspective. It isn't a SIZE issue with the AA clients. It is an ATTITUDE issue.

    NO ONE likes being treated poorly, that particular client population tends to have a stereotypical treatment of the staff. NOT SAYING ALL. But ENOUGH that the reputation is there. IF THIS IS YOU. , or someone you know, take it to heart and help out.

    THAT IS WHAT THIS BOARD IS ALL ABOUT -.

    If NOT you. Congrats. And thank you for supporting single mothers 😛.

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