Non Pro's

[BuckNaked123]

How many of these girls would you say have multiple arrangements? Wondering how much I got to offer to get them exclusive. Got one I like but its pretty clear she's seeing multiple people. Probably some of you guys lmaoo.

She might tell you she is being exclusive but how would you ever know unless you were with her 24/7? Odds are if she told you she was yours exclusively, she is just telling you what you want to hear and then doing what she wants.

[Coldvisions]

How many of these girls would you say have multiple arrangements? Wondering how much I got to offer to get them exclusive. Got one I like but its pretty clear she's seeing multiple people. Probably some of you guys lmaoo.

[Marko Ramius]

No high end woman is also on an escort site.

No high end woman has her upper chest tattooed. Jesus f--ing Christ.

Truth.

All of the ones I saw were either actresses on their way up or models on their way out. And any tattoos they had were small and discreet.

[Markro3000]

Almost by definition no truly high end girl is going to be found on Seeking or any sugar web site.

They do exist, and usually the only way you can find them is by someone referring one of them to you. The problem is that you need to be in the boy's club to get the connections to get your hands on one of them. And all of them I've met or put my cock into are merciless networkers and will be as interested in who you know as your money.

The irony is that a lot of the "high end" girls are not as insanely expensive as the most obnoxious offerings on Seeking by a long shot. And they give actual value for the money.

No high end woman is also on an escort site.

No high end woman has her upper chest tattooed. Jesus f--ing Christ.

[Marko Ramius]

Use of the terms "high end" or "upscale" get an immediate pass from me. Bullshit attempt to charge more. Sorry, 'hun', the market determines what your time is worth not your inflated ego or greed.

Almost by definition no truly high end girl is going to be found on Seeking or any sugar web site.

They do exist, and usually the only way you can find them is by someone referring one of them to you. The problem is that you need to be in the boy's club to get the connections to get your hands on one of them. And all of them I've met or put my cock into are merciless networkers and will be as interested in who you know as your money.

The irony is that a lot of the "high end" girls are not as insanely expensive as the most obnoxious offerings on Seeking by a long shot. And they give actual value for the money.

[Morgan Creamin]

That's why she's freaking rude when I countered, she is self defined high end LOL.

Use of the terms "high end" or "upscale" get an immediate pass from me. Bullshit attempt to charge more. Sorry, 'hun', the market determines what your time is worth not your inflated ego or greed.

[Seattlebp]

She's on Tryst https://tryst.link/escort/lunamei.

That's why she's freaking rude when I countered, she is self defined high end LOL.

[Coldvisions]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...5-d51e1e2e50c7


https://members.seeking.com/member/0...3-cad5777ab6e4
LunaMei, 1000 ppm, same, video chatted but didn't meet.

She's on Tryst https://tryst.link/escort/lunamei.

[Seattlebp]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...5-d51e1e2e50c7
Janessa, worst so far, she'll send you a doc of a long price list, asking money for everything including text and photos, CFS even CBJ.
2000 ppm, 250 per hour with so many rules and you have to prepay.


https://members.seeking.com/member/0...0-1253f73c84a5
Ana, told me she only see cute / handsome guys after just saying hi LOL.


https://members.seeking.com/member/4...5-4870bcb1b22f
Petite ayda, pretended to be student LOL, quoted 600 per hour and then I found her tna with 100+ reviews.
https://www.tnaboard.com/community/m...ineeee.536006/


https://members.seeking.com/member/2...9-6938432b3ca5
Lindsey, rude, didn't even get a quote, guess I'm not her type.


https://members.seeking.com/member/e...1-7a6aa7782803
Laura, rude, didn't get a quote, told me she's richer than me LOL.


https://members.seeking.com/member/b...1-5091e04cec0a
Jada, 1000 ppm, did a video chat, looks real, too old for this price, haven't met yet.


https://members.seeking.com/member/0...3-cad5777ab6e4
LunaMei, 1000 ppm, same, video chatted but didn't meet.


I was supposed to meet one in person for got cancelled last minute, will share once I verify again.

[Morgan Creamin]

Noticing more and more SBs in the 2-4 range showing up on my feed, even a 1 here and there. They must be getting desperate. I don't like to be insulting but a couple actually made me cringe when I scrolled past their pictures. I mean, good luck to them finding someone willing to pay for it.

[Morgan Creamin]

This is it exactly. I think the problem with some guys is they want a pro to get laid for $X right away. It doesn't always happen that way, that's what actual pros are for. It's a time and numbers game with SBs.

It's honestly a mix. I find some girls are right up front about things but still seem to think they aren't hoes. I'm obviously not going to argue the point with them but it's interesting mental gymnastics.

[VanDawg]

I meet them and make it a date like any other. 1/3 the time they end up sleeping with me for $0. 1/3 I talk them down to something like an allowance that works out to $200/ pop. 1/3 it goes no where. Guess what the truly normal 20 yo girls don't especially want to think of themselves as sleeping for money. So the game is in removing that mental friction and make them feel like it's like any other normie relationship except you're giving them what they need instead of a $200 dinner every time you see them.

This is it exactly. I think the problem with some guys is they want a pro to get laid for $X right away. It doesn't always happen that way, that's what actual pros are for. It's a time and numbers game with SBs.

[PriceIsRight39]

Yes, there are a lot of gurls out there asking for ridiculous amounts of money.

Generally if they are asking for more than 600 ppm I don't even bother with negotiating and move on. I find I can find more girls than I can ever fuck at 400 ppm with very open menus. On BBFS my rule is I don't do that until I've verified they are on BC. Sometimes I'll even pay for an IUD at Planned Parenthood. Yeah, it is an additional expense but much cheaper than child support.

The younger girls and the girls with higher asking prices are usually the biggest time wasters and worst flakes. And in my experience the very best service at the very best prices has been some freaky ladies in their early thirties.

I'm at 21 22 and one 23 all bare 300-400. I find the ones over 30 to be the most delusional! Have fucked 18 and 19 ho's but yes they are flaky and often one and done as they need money for phone or the goofy 6'3" BF that's broke. The older ones always think their puss is better. LOL its not. Well ok ok not all the older ones I had a long term one that was 30 and a real sweet and fun date. We even went to regular dating stuff. Anything gets worse with age and use. I have shown my work here as well. . No fatties and no 3'-4's. If more guys had an abundance mindset this and dating would be much much better. Weak men have brought hard times. AI layoffs will level the field. Get in line ladies, winter is coming.

[Seattlebp]

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...5-219b50763f39

Zeynep, 250 for a coffee meet, told me if not then don't message her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...e-d2c792e67118

500 for 2 h, after I said yes she blocked me LOL.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...0-2799ee274f15

Rose, she changed her profile she was looking for a SD called Charlie who blocked her LOL, switch location between Canada and WA don't even know why she hmu.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...3-57b21c587db1

Content seller, $40 for a few pics.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...e-a35e4c160fd0

Content seller.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...2-4d11194904a0

Karrine, maybe I'm not her type, kinda rude asking me to f-off when I just said hi LOL.

[Morgan Creamin]

These women are completely delusional.

It's not just women on the sugar sites, it's American / Western women in general. One of the reason why I hobby is that most women bring nothing to the table. They don't approach relationships willing to be equal partners or work together, it's all about what will you do for them and they feel like they have to provide nothing in return. The sugar sites just get a slightly exaggerated version of that that's a little more out in the open. Women look down on hobbyists but they don't see that many of us would happily settle down if they weren't so fucking selfish and self-absorbed.