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  1. #1693

    Apples and Oranges

    Quote Originally Posted by WillShookup  [View Original Post]
    Not an apples-to-apples comparison on any level, unless you were paying these girls rent and / or shilling for them.

    On the latter, the Admin may want to remove any reviews for that agency.
    That may have been his point: it seems their priority is to prosecute the people running and / or promoting the business (the money people). I'm sure they are interested in charging anyone committing a crime, but the providers are lower down the list and probably seen as victims of the situation They'd love to high profile prosecute the clients to deter demand, but that's a lot of effort to chase a pretty thin misdemeanor that requires a fair amount of "caught red handed" to make stick. But then again, I don't know shit and would never do any of this stuff y'all write about here.

  2. #1692
    Quote Originally Posted by WillShookup  [View Original Post]
    I hope everyone knows that all of their texts are retained by their provider. They parse them for data to sell, and they respond quickly and completely to subpoenas. Further, I hope people know to activate burners without giving any PII. If you skip all that shit it will still activate.

    This is where the American justice system is such joke: it's all about the willingness to prosecute. There's probably more than enough for a solid case, but unless politics intrude there's little appetite for spending a ton of time going after small fish.

    This is likely the saving grace here. Unless some politico gets all righteous.
    Aye they might be more inclined to go after people with criminal records or who are frequent clients or famous (like that radio host) over someone with no criminal history and / or who might've been just a onetime client or just a handful of times.

  3. #1691
    Quote Originally Posted by HapaBoy86  [View Original Post]
    Google - "the league bellvue" get your answers.
    Didn't know about that one.

    All the k girls I've visited have seemed like they were there willingly, but how do we knowv they aren't being trafficked? I honestly don't want anything to do with that shit. I'll all for it if she's there willingly, but otherwise definitely not.

  4. #1690
    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph1955  [View Original Post]
    Does anyone have actual experience on how this would work? What charges could they bring against a previous client or provider unless they had evidence of a crime? I understand about the owner and their direct connection to the apartments, the immediate providers and clients found there, bank records, etc. But how could providers and clients no longer present be connected to a crime?
    Google - "the league bellvue" get your answers.

  5. #1689
    Quote Originally Posted by WillShookup  [View Original Post]
    I don't disagree, but with a DL in-hand, linked to texts asking for services for $, and potentially linked to video of entering the common area of an apartment someone could be in for an interesting ride.

    It's less about the situation generally than the specifics here and how careful an individual was.

    But I would be reviewing text history and as noted elsewhere working to clean up your trail to the extent possible.
    Interesting ride indeed. Here's what I do know- never answer any questions at all, no matter how innocent they seem. Only say that you don't answer questions outside the presence of your attorney and then STFU except to repeat that statement if they don't leave you alone.

    Another issue is server logs. I used a burner but does the server cache those text messages? Can't be sure. Regular cell providers definitely do. Deleting on the phone doesn't matter if they can just pull the records It all comes down to how much of a hard-on LE has to go through the work to track people down. In addition to video inside the building if you've parked your car in the area they have your license plate. Burner phone apps can be traced, burner phone location logs can be subpoenaed, etc.

    But is all that enough to secure a conviction? Way above my pay grade but let's hope not.

  6. #1688

    The Boston Brothel case might be informative

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph1955  [View Original Post]
    Does anyone have actual experience on how this would work? What charges could they bring against a previous client or provider unless they had evidence of a crime? I understand about the owner and their direct connection to the apartments, the immediate providers and clients found there, bank records, etc. But how could providers and clients no longer present be connected to a crime?
    They did have evidence from the client list but then did a bit of leg work to match faces to DL pics and surveillance footage. Seems like the VA side was uninterested and never brought any charges.

    Not sure what the general climate about sex work in Seattle is but if there is a large anti-John group that wants to blame the clients might want to think twice. But I think generally if all they have is phone records that is viewed more as circumstantial so not too strong -- maybe enough to scare some into confessions but as mentioned, if you get a visit talk with a lawyer and let the lawyer talk with LE.

  7. #1687
    Quote Originally Posted by MorganCreamin  [View Original Post]
    Not a lawyer but it's pretty hard without cash in hand. The statute just says you have to agree, but a good lawyer can twist the fuck out of that.
    This. In the unlikely event of an arrest, do not talk to the cops without a lawyer present.

  8. #1686
    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph1955  [View Original Post]
    Does anyone have actual experience on how this would work? What charges could they bring against a previous client or provider unless they had evidence of a crime? I understand about the owner and their direct connection to the apartments, the immediate providers and clients found there, bank records, etc. But how could providers and clients no longer present be connected to a crime?
    Not a lawyer but it's pretty hard without cash in hand. The statute just says you have to agree, but a good lawyer can twist the fuck out of that.

  9. #1685

    Evidence of a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingGolfball  [View Original Post]
    The provider reached out back to me.

    Seems like a Bellevue PD busted the boss. Might be in custody soon.

    Not so great for everyone.
    Does anyone have actual experience on how this would work? What charges could they bring against a previous client or provider unless they had evidence of a crime? I understand about the owner and their direct connection to the apartments, the immediate providers and clients found there, bank records, etc. But how could providers and clients no longer present be connected to a crime?

  10. #1684
    Quote Originally Posted by WillShookup  [View Original Post]
    I guess we'll find out if providing a drivers license was such a minor thing after all.
    Glad mine was shopped.

    Probably a good time to change your burners as well.

  11. #1683
    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingGolfball  [View Original Post]
    The provider reached out back to me.

    Seems like a Bellevue PD busted the boss. Might be in custody soon.

    Not so great for everyone.
    Arrests are public records, so this can be verified if you have a name instead just going off hearsay.

  12. #1682

    AP done for good. ?

    The provider reached out back to me.

    Seems like a Bellevue PD busted the boss. Might be in custody soon.

    Not so great for everyone.

  13. #1681

    How post ad in this forum

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkoRamius  [View Original Post]
    This is just me, but I'd generally say:

    1. Massage parlors. They have very consistent and reasonable pricing across the board and if you track the reviews here you can find pretty girls providing good service at those reasonable prices. Also for me it is the best option for reliable service on my schedule.

    2. AAMPS / Kgirl Agencies. On the average much more attractive than (1), very consistent service, but more expensive (often twice as expensive). Screening can be problematic.

    3. Strip clubs. Some very good looking girls but prices can go up rapidly. Also depending on the situation at the club service can be inconsistent.

    For me, at least, all of the options after that degrade rapidly.

    Agencies can vary wildly in quality and you have zero guarantee that the girl in the ad (or described by the booker) is the girl you'll actually see. Service (in my opinion is inconsistent) and security and safety is at times questionable..
    New to this site want know how to post ad.

    And in Seattle which forum is for post by provider?

  14. #1680

    Search function

    Am I the only one getting an error when I try to search the forum?

  15. #1679

    Single mother providers doing trades

    Any of yall know a woman who fits the bill?

    Got a new switch 2 unopened I'm looking to trade.

    Or if anyone here is wanting one I'll sell for close to retail.

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