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[Taws6]

What do or should I do If and when that happens? It is certainly something I always fear that got caught with my pants down so as speak. Should I speed dial to a lawyer? I mean I read a few posts said we just keep our mouth shut and gives nothing out. Has anyone got legit answers on what to do? Begging for answers thanks.

Several others have given good advice, and I will echo what has already been said, but a bit differently.

In a traffic stop. Say you were speeding. Or whatever, the cop probably 99% of the time will as you "do you know why I pulled you over?

They want to "get on record" that you voluntarily told them what infraction (crime) you committed, so if they ever go to trial, it's been documented so to speak.

That's why you never, EVER admit guilt. Period.

Additional info. Many here like to find "new" places. Ones without reviews. For someone new. Stick to the tried & true. Reviewed places. That have an incentive to keep the gravy train running.

[Dildo Baggens]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume you're new to the hobby. Like I conveyed earlier, I've only had one real scare. Having said this, when I first started out in this hobby, I use to worry I'd be victim to a sting operation, then I read on this site, if you don't initiate sexual overtures, but wait for the provider to do so, then you are pretty much assured it isn't a Sting. My rule of thumb is, when going to a new place, wait for here to touch, tease or graze your gonads. No undercover cop will do that because of entrapment clauses. However, if a UC cop says something suggestive and you respond verbally and there's discussion of money, well then you're fucked.

The probability of you getting bust at an MP is pretty damn low, so just relax enjoy and share.

Good rule of thumb- "Wait for the grazing".

DB

What do or should I do If and when that happens? It is certainly something I always fear that got caught with my pants down so as speak. Should I speed dial to a lawyer? I mean I read a few posts said we just keep our mouth shut and gives nothing out. Has anyone got legit answers on what to do? Begging for answers thanks.

[Oc Amper]

What do or should I do If and when that happens? It is certainly something I always fear that got caught with my pants down so as speak. Should I speed dial to a lawyer? I mean I read a few posts said we just keep our mouth shut and gives nothing out. Has anyone got legit answers on what to do? Begging for answers thanks.

I can't imagine any defense lawyer advising you not to to do anything more than identify yourself and invoke your rights. Any more said, is likely to just make his / her job more difficult or impossible to succeed.

Short of the lady telling LE that you paid her, there isn't much to be said about you being there. It is a place for massages, you were there for a massage at some point. Whether you are boning her, or FF her, makes no difference. As long as she doesn't give you up, it's two consenting adults doing things adults do.

It will be difficult to keep that mindset, especially after LE says something like, just tell us why you are here and you can go home.

Just don't be a jerk. Cordially invoke and the rest is likely to have happened no matter what you said. Now it's just a matter of, do you incriminate yourself, maybe to the point of having no defense.

[Dildo Baggens]

Barring a sting operation or caught in the act (blow job, fucking, fondling etc), say as little as possible- do as little as possible. Remember, even places like Massage Envy allow you to remove your clothing. You didn't do anything wrong and don't admit to anything. You just went there for a therapeutic massage.

There are probably some attorneys on this site that can give more detailed advice. Guys get in trouble when they start saying to much and self incriminate.

DB.

What do or should I do If and when that happens? It is certainly something I always fear that got caught with my pants down so as speak. Should I speed dial to a lawyer? I mean I read a few posts said we just keep our mouth shut and gives nothing out. Has anyone got legit answers on what to do? Begging for answers thanks.

[Skitexs626]

I agree, been doing this for 2 decades with hundreds of experiences and only had one scare. Was lying on the table and heard a 2 way radio going off and the clomp, clomp, clomp of hard shoes coming down the hallway. Found out later it was the Fire Marshal checking for extinguishers. Other than that no other close calls. I don't do street walkers anymore because I had a close call during a car date.

What do or should I do If and when that happens? It is certainly something I always fear that got caught with my pants down so as speak. Should I speed dial to a lawyer? I mean I read a few posts said we just keep our mouth shut and gives nothing out. Has anyone got legit answers on what to do? Begging for answers thanks.

[JohnxHide]

Trying to have fun with my provider in a hot tub / sauna. What's a good budget-friendly option other than high end hotels?

Neptune Lagoon seems good, but they only have 3 tubs and does not take appointments.

TIA.

[Mongers12]

For the most part, and I'm sure this is statistically true, LE doesn't ordinarily originate targets of investigations on their own. They largely rely upon tips from the community. I seriously doubt, they have much in the way of time to do any proactive kind of policing. So, mostly, they are not looking at things like this forum, or the review sites and forming plans from those sources for targets for investigation.

I could be wrong, but if it were different from what I am guessing, then we'd have tons more busts and parlors would not stay in business, for sometimes a decade or more.

Policing is mostly a reactive type activity. They get complaints from what ever source and that forces a hand to do something about it.

I can think of two instances where the newspaper article indicated Neighbor Complaints. It's been long enough, don't recall which came 1st, but one was the parlor on McDermott, where the next door neighbors were former attorneys, their business, I forget? Window Cleaning? 100% don't recall. In any case, they could hear the girls moaning thru the walls. They complained, and were attorneys so knew what to say and how to do what they said, Irvine PD swiftly took care of the issue.

The other case, one of the larger complexes in Irvine, again forget which one. Some of the direct neighbors noticed the traffic, probably at all hours of the day, and notified Irvine PD. Not so sure how swiftly they took care of it, think it took a bit more time, but did the investigation and shut the AAMP down, with arrests on at least the primary occupant.

This is why, when you approach a door, it magically opens. We all should be casual, like we are going to a friends house. Not be paranoid and scoping out the entire scene, nor should we be hanging our in our vehicles prior to the appointment.

We should arrive, get to the door, get inside, have a ton of fun, then GTFO!

Just leave, like you left a friends place, whether it be a AMP or AAMP. If given a bottle of water, I always put it into my pocket, usually have a jacket of some kind on, Get to the car, and go!

I mean most places stay aggressive and not worry about their neighbors or even in school zones any more, I thought the city usually doesn't allow at least 200 feet of any school zone or church of all places to get a rub and tug joint going. I mean truth be told, at 99 health at night time I had seen at least 8 patrol car park up front before and they were here for tacos except next door LOL, was it intense the first time I saw it? Yes, but after a few times it is like meh.

[Dildo Baggens]

I agree, been doing this for 2 decades with hundreds of experiences and only had one scare. Was lying on the table and heard a 2 way radio going off and the clomp, clomp, clomp of hard shoes coming down the hallway. Found out later it was the Fire Marshal checking for extinguishers. Other than that no other close calls. I don't do street walkers anymore because I had a close call during a car date.

For the most part, and I'm sure this is statistically true, LE doesn't ordinarily originate targets of investigations on their own. They largely rely upon tips from the community. I seriously doubt, they have much in the way of time to do any proactive kind of policing. So, mostly, they are not looking at things like this forum, or the review sites and forming plans from those sources for targets for investigation.

I could be wrong, but if it were different from what I am guessing, then we'd have tons more busts and parlors would not stay in business, for sometimes a decade or more.

Policing is mostly a reactive type activity. They get complaints from what ever source and that forces a hand to do something about it.

I can think of two instances where the newspaper article indicated Neighbor Complaints. It's been long enough, don't recall which came 1st, but one was the parlor on McDermott, where the next door neighbors were former attorneys, their business, I forget? Window Cleaning? 100% don't recall. In any case, they could hear the girls moaning thru the walls. They complained, and were attorneys so knew what to say and how to do what they said, Irvine PD swiftly took care of the issue.

The other case, one of the larger complexes in Irvine, again forget which one. Some of the direct neighbors noticed the traffic, probably at all hours of the day, and notified Irvine PD. Not so sure how swiftly they took care of it, think it took a bit more time, but did the investigation and shut the AAMP down, with arrests on at least the primary occupant.

This is why, when you approach a door, it magically opens. We all should be casual, like we are going to a friends house. Not be paranoid and scoping out the entire scene, nor should we be hanging our in our vehicles prior to the appointment.

We should arrive, get to the door, get inside, have a ton of fun, then GTFO!

Just leave, like you left a friends place, whether it be a AMP or AAMP. If given a bottle of water, I always put it into my pocket, usually have a jacket of some kind on, Get to the car, and go!

[NailBoiz1]

For the most part, and I'm sure this is statistically true, LE doesn't ordinarily originate targets of investigations on their own. They largely rely upon tips from the community. I seriously doubt, they have much in the way of time to do any proactive kind of policing. So, mostly, they are not looking at things like this forum, or the review sites and forming plans from those sources for targets for investigation.

I could be wrong, but if it were different from what I am guessing, then we'd have tons more busts and parlors would not stay in business, for sometimes a decade or more.

Policing is mostly a reactive type activity. They get complaints from what ever source and that forces a hand to do something about it.

I can think of two instances where the newspaper article indicated Neighbor Complaints. It's been long enough, don't recall which came 1st, but one was the parlor on McDermott, where the next door neighbors were former attorneys, their business, I forget? Window Cleaning? 100% don't recall. In any case, they could hear the girls moaning thru the walls. They complained, and were attorneys so knew what to say and how to do what they said, Irvine PD swiftly took care of the issue.

The other case, one of the larger complexes in Irvine, again forget which one. Some of the direct neighbors noticed the traffic, probably at all hours of the day, and notified Irvine PD. Not so sure how swiftly they took care of it, think it took a bit more time, but did the investigation and shut the AAMP down, with arrests on at least the primary occupant.

This is why, when you approach a door, it magically opens. We all should be casual, like we are going to a friends house. Not be paranoid and scoping out the entire scene, nor should we be hanging our in our vehicles prior to the appointment.

We should arrive, get to the door, get inside, have a ton of fun, then GTFO!

Just leave, like you left a friends place, whether it be a AMP or AAMP. If given a bottle of water, I always put it into my pocket, usually have a jacket of some kind on, Get to the car, and go!

Totally agree. Police now a days are shorthanded so they will only react when provicated to come out even if they know its not a real massage place. I live in OC and there are literally 100's of AMP and I'm sure 80% are non legit. They wouldn't have this many shops of they were being shit down consistently. I remembered 10 years ago the ladies would be a whole lot more careful and would wait for you to make the first move. Now as soon as you step in tje door they are all over you.

Anyways I'm just glad no shop I've gone to has been busted. Happy hunting gents.

[Oc Amper]

100% always the neighbors at a strip mall, apt, condo or House that call le!

For the most part, and I'm sure this is statistically true, LE doesn't ordinarily originate targets of investigations on their own. They largely rely upon tips from the community. I seriously doubt, they have much in the way of time to do any proactive kind of policing. So, mostly, they are not looking at things like this forum, or the review sites and forming plans from those sources for targets for investigation.

I could be wrong, but if it were different from what I am guessing, then we'd have tons more busts and parlors would not stay in business, for sometimes a decade or more.

Policing is mostly a reactive type activity. They get complaints from what ever source and that forces a hand to do something about it.

I can think of two instances where the newspaper article indicated Neighbor Complaints. It's been long enough, don't recall which came 1st, but one was the parlor on McDermott, where the next door neighbors were former attorneys, their business, I forget? Window Cleaning? 100% don't recall. In any case, they could hear the girls moaning thru the walls. They complained, and were attorneys so knew what to say and how to do what they said, Irvine PD swiftly took care of the issue.

The other case, one of the larger complexes in Irvine, again forget which one. Some of the direct neighbors noticed the traffic, probably at all hours of the day, and notified Irvine PD. Not so sure how swiftly they took care of it, think it took a bit more time, but did the investigation and shut the AAMP down, with arrests on at least the primary occupant.

This is why, when you approach a door, it magically opens. We all should be casual, like we are going to a friends house. Not be paranoid and scoping out the entire scene, nor should we be hanging our in our vehicles prior to the appointment.

We should arrive, get to the door, get inside, have a ton of fun, then GTFO!

Just leave, like you left a friends place, whether it be a AMP or AAMP. If given a bottle of water, I always put it into my pocket, usually have a jacket of some kind on, Get to the car, and go!

[HapaBoy86]

This article perfectly summarizes the "Whys and How's" MPs get busted. Stings are pretty rare in MPs, however MP busts are a culmination of factors. This article is from the San Jose area.

DB.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...thels/3995923/

100% always the neighbors at a strip mall, apt, condo or House that call le!

[Dildo Baggens]

This article perfectly summarizes the "Whys and How's" MPs get busted. Stings are pretty rare in MPs, however MP busts are a culmination of factors. This article is from the San Jose area.

DB.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...thels/3995923/

[Onelakerfan]

I'm assuming you have not done either with the "eyed" provider as mentioned. If you want my 2 cents, do incall with this woman. Like the others have conveyed, having her show up to your residence brings in a slew of potential consequences, from petty theft to home invasion robbery or worse.

BTW if you've never done incall, that too has its potential deficits as well. Best to get independent referrals or reference from guys on this site who have a trusted track record. Last but not least, don't bring a lot of cash. Just enough to pay for the agreed upon service.

DB.

Thanks for your input, DB.

[Dildo Baggens]

I'm assuming you have not done either with the "eyed" provider as mentioned. If you want my 2 cents, do incall with this woman. Like the others have conveyed, having her show up to your residence brings in a slew of potential consequences, from petty theft to home invasion robbery or worse.

BTW if you've never done incall, that too has its potential deficits as well. Best to get independent referrals or reference from guys on this site who have a trusted track record. Last but not least, don't bring a lot of cash. Just enough to pay for the agreed upon service.

DB.

The reasons I asked these questions are I have been eyeing one provider but does only outcall or car dates. I don't like the idea of car dates. So I thought I'd ask about the incall. I'll heed all your warnings. It's probably best to get a room somewhere. Sorry Dildo baggens that this happened to you. I do not want any headaches.

[Onelakerfan]

Question 1: If a provider advertises almost daily in a couple of sites for several months, but either does not have any reviews or very little is said about her. Would you consider that a red flag and to be careful?

Question 2: Has anyone done outcall from a provider to their primary residence? I'm just wondering about this.

Thanks in advance for any replies.

The reasons I asked these questions are I have been eyeing one provider but does only outcall or car dates. I don't like the idea of car dates. So I thought I'd ask about the incall. I'll heed all your warnings. It's probably best to get a room somewhere. Sorry Dildo baggens that this happened to you. I do not want any headaches.