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  1. #636

    Sorry

    Quote Originally Posted by JaySinn  [View Original Post]
    Fair, but businesses usually embrace customer feedback. Good ones love negative feedback back it allows them to fix things and change.

    If they're not learning from their failures and mistakes, they aren't improving. If no one shares those negative reviews, either with them directly or on a public forum.

    Then nothing changes.
    Honestly I am sorry. I wasn't trying to troll you or call you out or anything. I first stated I kind of disagreed with you after reading the text photos you posted. I said that because I don't think you really handled the situation much better than they did. Were they rude to you at the start? Sure, agreed. But you also threatened them with a bad review, which while customer feedback is great, this was not feedback. You also mentioned in other posts that they continued to berate you and such but the photos you posted don't support that. I think you and the handler both were just equally frustrated.

  2. #635
    Quote Originally Posted by BoMcC  [View Original Post]
    Ended with the shrug emoji. They "blocked" you at that point. What did you hope to accomplish by letting them know you were giving a shit review? Yeah, it's bad form to come back with doxxing you, but they haven't, yet.

    There's a certain agency I've verified with and have texted dozens of times for the lineups but never followed through. They haven't come back with anything like banning me yet. But if they did, they'd probably be right for me wasting their time every week. I wouldn't tell them I was going to shit on them. I just would. They wouldn't know it was me anyway.
    Fair, but businesses usually embrace customer feedback. Good ones love negative feedback back it allows them to fix things and change.

    If they're not learning from their failures and mistakes, they aren't improving. If no one shares those negative reviews, either with them directly or on a public forum.

    Then nothing changes.

  3. #634
    Quote Originally Posted by Korman23  [View Original Post]
    Actually it appeared they reached out to you at 12:30 so there's actually no evidence you even would have messaged at 12:30 if they didn't first. The asking for an apology thing at the end is still lame though.
    Do you read what you write before you send it? I feel like you're here to troll.

    How does one provide evidence for intent?

    Is my precious attempts few times trying to schedule time with her not count?

    Why tf would I text them trying to set something up between 12-2 pm (because that's when I was free).

    If I had no intent on following through?

    It doesn't matter what I say on here, you're going to have some bullsh. T to say. Again I think you're just trolling.

    I texted them back at 1233. I told them around 12. That's not close enough? 4 hours before the appointment?

    Not everyone is glued to their phones and plan their entire day around getting laid. I'm a monger / hobbyist. Not a simp.

    I could care less about them. I've had great experiences with other agencies. I could care less about what you think.

    I only uploaded those screenshots because I was asked to by a few members on here. You all want to make a big deal out of nothing LOL.

    Happy Thanksgiving you idiots.

  4. #633
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    You could have.

    Quote Originally Posted by JaySinn  [View Original Post]
    Screenshots of booker from ATM. Overanalyze this all you want.
    Ended with the shrug emoji. They "blocked" you at that point. What did you hope to accomplish by letting them know you were giving a shit review? Yeah, it's bad form to come back with doxxing you, but they haven't, yet.

    There's a certain agency I've verified with and have texted dozens of times for the lineups but never followed through. They haven't come back with anything like banning me yet. But if they did, they'd probably be right for me wasting their time every week. I wouldn't tell them I was going to shit on them. I just would. They wouldn't know it was me anyway.

  5. #632

    Sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by JaySinn  [View Original Post]
    I said "around" 12/ noon. To confirm for 4 pm. I replied back at 1230.

    Sure. My fault for not texting then at exactly 12 on the dot. LOL. Are you serious?
    Actually it appeared they reached out to you at 12:30 so there's actually no evidence you even would have messaged at 12:30 if they didn't first. The asking for an apology thing at the end is still lame though.

  6. #631

    Over Communication

    Quote Originally Posted by Noworth  [View Original Post]
    Does seem like a lot of confusion in the communication and the risk of that happens when things get stretched out over days like seem to be the case. I think a lot of that potential confusion can be removed (help eliminate some some of the variance in YMMV) by just treating every attempt to schedule as a completely independent situation and don't try to arrange more than a day in advance. If you're not booking for the same day but the next day, proactively confirm the morning of (around 9 am when the booker is starting getting request to see the girl that day).

    No idea what your schedule is like but assume at the start of the day it's pretty well defined. Best to try just making the request that morning as see if the stars align. Your screen shots seem to indicate a couple of missed touch points and a different expectation on when the confirmation was expected (you: around noon, booker: by noon). So the different expectations can be removed by use a specific time by which the appointment will be confirm. And, I would suggest taking control of that and always being the one that sends the confirmation before the stated time.

    As for the rest of the stuff, I think a lot was said that didn't need to be said and should not have been said. Particularly given text exchanges are really poor at good communication regarding tone of voice so limiting the exchange to just simple facts -- name, time, date and yes / no is a smart thing to do. Additionally, just tell the book what they need to know in order to schedule an appointment -- even if things go bad and they come across as rude / terse in text messages don't follow suit. Even if you think it's unacceptable / undeserved treatment it's unnecessary to tell them a negative post will be made -- it's not like you have to give advance notice before you're allowed to post and certainly you're not saying it to get permission. Why is that something they need to be told in advance? It will never make a deteriorating / bad situation better.
    Communication should be name and time, "confirmed", and "here". If they give you other info about location acknowledge receiving it. If they give an alternative time get back in 5 minutes or say can't make it work at the moment. All the other comms are pointless. Who cares where you are and shouldn't be committing to getting back in hours when they're not going to hold anything.

    The reaction by the company is a whole other thing. Totally inappropriate and a “cutting off one’s nose” type of self destructive situation.

  7. #630
    Quote Originally Posted by Korman23  [View Original Post]
    Maybe its just me but I disagree with the defense of these texts that were posted. No offense but you started by saying you would get back to them at noon and you didn't so they basically called you out on it. Seemed like it was your fault once you didn't message at noon as stated. The idea that you asked them for an apology looks pretty weak as well.
    I said "around" 12/ noon. To confirm for 4 pm. I replied back at 1230.

    Sure. My fault for not texting then at exactly 12 on the dot. LOL. Are you serious?

  8. #629

    Just my take since you still seem a bit interested in what happend

    Quote Originally Posted by JaySinn  [View Original Post]
    I certainly tried to keep the texts to a minimum. At first it seemed like they were confusing me with someone else.

    Then she just wasn't available or I wasn't. So this just created more texts.

    I also can't rule out that what they said Migth have meant posting to a blacklist?

    Thinking it's a language barrier, but their English is really good so who knows.

    If there's 99 good experiences and 1 bad one. It's probably worth trying.

    There's no guarantee that they would actually share my info.

    Where would they even put it?

    I'm on the fence about if they actually keep it or not.

    How would they know you've been screened unless then save your number as "approved".

    They would have to have a lot of storage on the phone to keep track of everyone.

    I dunno just thinking out loud.
    Does seem like a lot of confusion in the communication and the risk of that happens when things get stretched out over days like seem to be the case. I think a lot of that potential confusion can be removed (help eliminate some some of the variance in YMMV) by just treating every attempt to schedule as a completely independent situation and don't try to arrange more than a day in advance. If you're not booking for the same day but the next day, proactively confirm the morning of (around 9 am when the booker is starting getting request to see the girl that day).

    No idea what your schedule is like but assume at the start of the day it's pretty well defined. Best to try just making the request that morning as see if the stars align. Your screen shots seem to indicate a couple of missed touch points and a different expectation on when the confirmation was expected (you: around noon, booker: by noon). So the different expectations can be removed by use a specific time by which the appointment will be confirm. And, I would suggest taking control of that and always being the one that sends the confirmation before the stated time.

    As for the rest of the stuff, I think a lot was said that didn't need to be said and should not have been said. Particularly given text exchanges are really poor at good communication regarding tone of voice so limiting the exchange to just simple facts -- name, time, date and yes / no is a smart thing to do. Additionally, just tell the book what they need to know in order to schedule an appointment -- even if things go bad and they come across as rude / terse in text messages don't follow suit. Even if you think it's unacceptable / undeserved treatment it's unnecessary to tell them a negative post will be made -- it's not like you have to give advance notice before you're allowed to post and certainly you're not saying it to get permission. Why is that something they need to be told in advance? It will never make a deteriorating / bad situation better.

  9. #628

    Slightly disagree

    Maybe its just me but I disagree with the defense of these texts that were posted. No offense but you started by saying you would get back to them at noon and you didn't so they basically called you out on it. Seemed like it was your fault once you didn't message at noon as stated. The idea that you asked them for an apology looks pretty weak as well.

  10. #627
    I certainly tried to keep the texts to a minimum. At first it seemed like they were confusing me with someone else.

    Then she just wasn't available or I wasn't. So this just created more texts.

    I also can't rule out that what they said Migth have meant posting to a blacklist?

    Thinking it's a language barrier, but their English is really good so who knows.

    If there's 99 good experiences and 1 bad one. It's probably worth trying.

    There's no guarantee that they would actually share my info.

    Where would they even put it?

    I'm on the fence about if they actually keep it or not.

    How would they know you've been screened unless then save your number as "approved".

    They would have to have a lot of storage on the phone to keep track of everyone.

    I dunno just thinking out loud.

  11. #626

    Proof was presented, where you at Oppa?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rkoppa  [View Original Post]
    How about this show me one piece of evidence this is true?

    So when you have evidence (screenshot or another person saying they did that to me too).
    Let me know.
    Jaysinn let you know.

    Where you at? Evidence and proof was shown. Where you at?

    Where's he at? 'Cause I got me a gat.

    And I'mma show him how a true G's sposed to act with a strap.

    This guy will make new users, when he does please don't ever respond to them, just report them so i can delete the content and user. I want to remove him, I don't want anybody giving him attention.

    A2

  12. #625
    Quote Originally Posted by JaySinn  [View Original Post]
    I'm not going to convince anyone not to use them.

    Just stating Your Miles May Vary (YMMV).

    It was them stating they would share my info / photo for leaving a negative review.

    Even if it was empty threat, still poor business practice.
    Years ago when I visited Asian agencies more regularly, I would ask for a girl's availability for the next 2 - 3 days then share the days / times that worked best for me. AG's booker always seemed to appreciate this as it cuts back on a lot of the back-and-forth, and the appointment gets scheduled pretty seamlessly. I'm nitpicking a tad here, but the only fault I can kinda see on your end was not laying out as much info about your availability then requesting hers within two consecutive texts. This typically helps expedite things for scheduling, then you simply reconfirm the morning of, explain that you'll be unable to answer for a couple hours due to work or whatnot, then go from there.

    However, you telling the booker that you'd write a negative review about their piss-poor phone etiquette is hardly grounds for them to weaponize your PII. And the fact that there's some johns here who think that lack of professionalism is acceptable? I mean Jesus, the white-knighting is real in these parts! These agencies claim to destroy any PII / texts / screenshots of everything sent their way, but I don't buy it for a millisecond. They definitely keep those records, and it wouldn't shock me in the least if they were to leverage as much info as they could to avoid harsher penalties in the event that said agency were to get rolled up by LE.

    Bottom line: this hobby relies on customers, the agency is a business, and it's their responsibility to protect their asses & girls without throwing the aforementioned customers under the fucking bus.

  13. #624
    Quote Originally Posted by Stroon78  [View Original Post]
    I've used this agency and the booker always seemed nice to me. In your convo, it seemed liked she did a 180. Have you done this before? IME, if you text a booker with a name, specific day and specific time you should be fine. If you are unsure of your availability don't even bother to reach out.
    It was my first experience with them. After the screening I tried to schedule with the vgirl.

    Told them Tues. They texted me on Monday asking if I was coming. I said no, Tuesday.

    She said she wasn't available. So I said okay I was I'll check back with them when I know when I'm free again.

    I texted them Thursday to see if she was available that day. They said no she was off.

    So I asked about Saturday. You guys know the rest.

    So for a week there was multiple texts. Just trying to figure out when we were both available.

    Could that be enough to piss off the booker? I dunno.

    Don't know. Don't care. Plenty of other agencies I can use.

    I'm not going to convince anyone not to use them.

    Just stating Your Miles May Vary (YMMV).

    It was them stating they would share my info / photo for leaving a negative review.

    Even if it was empty threat, still poor business practice.

  14. #623

    My experience

    Quote Originally Posted by JaySinn  [View Original Post]
    Screenshots of booker from ATM. Overanalyze this all you want.
    I've used this agency and the booker always seemed nice to me. In your convo, it seemed liked she did a 180. Have you done this before? IME, if you text a booker with a name, specific day and specific time you should be fine. If you are unsure of your availability don't even bother to reach out.

  15. #622
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    Posts: 1178
    Quote Originally Posted by JaySinn  [View Original Post]
    Screenshots of booker from ATM. Overanalyze this all you want.
    The booker's texts make me think he / she has a decent command of English, especially in the use of B**LS**T and the proper use of "too".

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