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  1. #1850

    STI And BBBJ

    Quote Originally Posted by Adobe  [View Original Post]
    I saw the same statistic that you did, but that statistic is based on the general population. For instance, among men who have sex with men, the range is 9% to 15%, which is already 50% more prevalent at the upper end of the range (10% to 15% is a 50% increase). Of course, providers are likely to have many more contacts -- and more cases of gonorrhea of the throat -- than even the most promiscuous of gay men. After all, how many gay men are giving BBBJ after BBBJ, several times a week, at least a few times a day? So why don't we just agree that the risk of getting gonorrhea from a provider is more like 8% per "get-together"? Still, the odds are against it -- there's a 92% chance that you don't get gonnorhea from a single BBBJ from a provider.

    92% is the same number (for calculational purposes) as. 92 -- the odds of not catching gonorrhea after seeing 2 providers is. 92 times. 92, which equals, . 846, or 84.6%. After seeing a third provider, the odds of NOT catching gonorrhea from any of them is. 846 times. 92, which is approximately. 78, or 78%. So already, if you're visiting 3 providers, the odds that you don't get gonorrhea from any of them, or from more than one of them, is 78%, which means the odds of catching gonorrhea is 22%, or between 1/4 and 1/5 of the time!.
    Not going to get into math or algorithms. According to the highly respected Mayo Clinic the chances of acquiring an STI from a BBBJ does exist, but it is considerably lower than other sexual activity. It can only occur if your partner has cuts or sores in the mouth or has gum disease. Does that mean we need to be dentists? Of course that's ridiculous, but if you see anything unusual around the mouth or badly rotted teeth then you might want to take out the cover. In all my years in this game I have always limited the number of escorts I see. Most of the time I would just see one regular for months at a time. Bottom line, if you are that worried about an STI, then reduce your chances and find a regular!

  2. #1849

    Stink

    I was just thinking about how hard it would be for someone with a huge stink down there to even go to a doctor. Which doctor would be able to keep a straight face as she disrobes and starts to stink up the place? How you guys are able to hold your noses and see her is beyond me.

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyWalker13  [View Original Post]
    I've always wrapped up eith Joelle. I saw her about 3 or 4 months ago and her pussy reeked. That's usually a sign that something isn't right downstairs. Whether it's hygiene, BV or a STD. The concern with someone who offers bareback to everyone is they aren't getting tested and don't care. I stopped getting BBBJ awhile ago.

  3. #1848
    Senior Member


    Posts: 787

    Math and More Math

    Quote Originally Posted by KatSuno1492  [View Original Post]
    The data guy in me has to bring up one very important thing to look at with a statement like this. What is the prevalence of gonorrhea in the throat? Google search suggested 2-10% of cases. So, using the min / max of those ranges, the chances of getting gonorrhea from oral are (2% of 23%) to (10% of 42% which is 0. 4% to 4%. This is where the "virtually impossible" statement would come into play. Not only do they have to be infected, but specifically their throat has to be infected, for you to be at risk. Is it still a risk? Of course. But it's not a 42% chance.
    I saw the same statistic that you did, but that statistic is based on the general population. For instance, among men who have sex with men, the range is 9% to 15%, which is already 50% more prevalent at the upper end of the range (10% to 15% is a 50% increase). Of course, providers are likely to have many more contacts -- and more cases of gonorrhea of the throat -- than even the most promiscuous of gay men. After all, how many gay men are giving BBBJ after BBBJ, several times a week, at least a few times a day? So why don't we just agree that the risk of getting gonorrhea from a provider is more like 8% per "get-together"? Still, the odds are against it -- there's a 92% chance that you don't get gonnorhea from a single BBBJ from a provider.

    92% is the same number (for calculational purposes) as. 92 -- the odds of not catching gonorrhea after seeing 2 providers is. 92 times. 92, which equals, . 846, or 84.6%. After seeing a third provider, the odds of NOT catching gonorrhea from any of them is. 846 times. 92, which is approximately. 78, or 78%. So already, if you're visiting 3 providers, the odds that you don't get gonorrhea from any of them, or from more than one of them, is 78%, which means the odds of catching gonorrhea is 22%, or between 1/4 and 1/5 of the time!

    If you engage in 2 or 3 cardates a month, you are very, very likely to get gonorrhea within 4 or 5 months.

    Just my 2 cents.

  4. #1847
    Quote Originally Posted by KatSuno1492  [View Original Post]
    The data guy in me has to bring up one very important thing to look at with a statement like this. What is the prevalence of gonorrhea in the throat? Google search suggested 2-10% of cases. So, using the min / max of those ranges, the chances of getting gonorrhea from oral are (2% of 23%) to (10% of 42% which is 0. 4% to 4%. This is where the "virtually impossible" statement would come into play. Not only do they have to be infected, but specifically their throat has to be infected, for you to be at risk. Is it still a risk? Of course. But it's not a 42% chance.
    Dear God. Someone has inserted Math and Science in the middle of my Escort viewing. What is the world coming to!!

  5. #1846
    Quote Originally Posted by Lips1963  [View Original Post]
    ... "Gonorrhea- Chance of transmission from an infected throat to the penis: 23% - 42.3%. "...
    The data guy in me has to bring up one very important thing to look at with a statement like this. What is the prevalence of gonorrhea in the throat? Google search suggested 2-10% of cases. So, using the min / max of those ranges, the chances of getting gonorrhea from oral are (2% of 23%) to (10% of 42% which is 0. 4% to 4%. This is where the "virtually impossible" statement would come into play. Not only do they have to be infected, but specifically their throat has to be infected, for you to be at risk. Is it still a risk? Of course. But it's not a 42% chance.

  6. #1845
    Quote Originally Posted by Lips1963  [View Original Post]
    And Swim, I'm honestly totally confused as to what you are trying to say here. First you say that "gonorrhea is very easily spread through oral". Well, DUH! It is! But then you follow that statement with, "Much less likely to spread Clap. . . Through just oral alone". Are you not aware that gonorrhea IS clap? They are one and the same! Like Clark Kent and Superman! So which do believe? Because if you believe that gonorrhea is easily spread thru oral but clap is not. . . Well, isn't that sort of like believing that a woman has bolt ons, and that the same woman has all-natural tits, at the same time?! Or maybe, like the Queen of Hearts in Through the Looking Glass, you are able to "believe 6 impossible things before breakfast"!
    You are correct sir, my oversight as EINHORN = FINKLE.

  7. #1844
    Quote Originally Posted by OldSkool68  [View Original Post]
    No offense taken. I've never considered it because I never got anything. Also, I never really talk about it with anyone so the topic never comes up. I go, I get sucked, I come home. BUT one time I used to work with this ex-social worker. He was talking about his experience with sex workers. I told him I dabbled even though I always felt like I was rolling the dice. It was he that put that phrase "virtually impossible to get anything from a blowjob" in my head. I took that as a professional opinion, and permission to carry on without digging any deeper.

    -OSk.
    A google search brings up various articles that report about a 10% chance of contracting clap from oral. But some studies are higher. Here's a quick reference from a NYC STD center, reporting probabilities of oral transmission of various STDS.

    https://stdcenterny.com/articles/get...-oral-sex.html

    This is what it reports for clap:

    "Gonorrhea- Chance of transmission from an infected throat to the penis: 23% - 42.3%. ".

    Surprising, isn't it?! Nevertheless, FWIFA!

  8. #1843

    Well clap me around and call me drippy

    Quote Originally Posted by MrRicFlair  [View Original Post]
    Absolutely certain, I've been in the hobby 15+ yrs & never ever fuck these hoes raw, even anal I wrap up but I love a nice wet BBBJ. I usually opt just for that & this is the first time I caught something. I'm just glad it was something easily treatable but still scary from a BBBJ.
    Scary is the right word. I'll be damned. I've been getting BBBJs since before my first wife, circa 1993. I'm either the original NEO, or I've been asymptomatic a hundred times and was none the wiser for it. Fuck me, I may be asymptomatic now, as I just got a BBBJ from a nasty old wench on Cranston just last week (Escort thread, I know, sorry).

    I really didn't want to, honestly. She was wretched, but that little head somehow convinced me to try anyway. I don't know how he did it! Thankfully, my wife and I are in the sex-once-every-three-months phase, if that; and I just plowed her a couple nights before so I'm good until after the holidays.

    But still, news to me! Damn. That sucks. With a condom.

    -OSk.

  9. #1842

    BBBJ and Clap

    Quote Originally Posted by OldSkool68  [View Original Post]
    And I see further down that someone else got burned from a BBBJ. Since when? Last I remember, it was "virtually impossible" to get *anything* from a BBBJ. It was the absolute safest thing one could do. I mean, I think they'd have to eat s**t and then suck your dick for you to get anything. Are you absolutely certain you got something from oral sex?

    -OSk.
    Quote Originally Posted by SwimSays  [View Original Post]
    Gonorrhea is very easily spread through oral, various types of HPV as well. Much less likely to spread Clap, Syph, or HIV through just oral alone.
    With all due respect, Oldskool, and no offense and nothing personal and all that, but I'm quite surprised here, with the blind maybe leading the blind? A simple google of the topic brings up a shitload of info, on both popular and professional medical sites, and it's clear that getting your dick sucked raw is a perfectly fine way to successfully get the clap! Less common than vaginal sex, to be sure, but the male still has about a 10% chance of catching it from the mouth of female who carries it in their mouth/throat. (Google it!) Doesn't stop me from getting my dick sucked raw, through. There is risk everywhere, right?

    And Swim, I'm honestly totally confused as to what you are trying to say here. First you say that "gonorrhea is very easily spread through oral". Well, DUH! It is! But then you follow that statement with, "Much less likely to spread Clap. . . Through just oral alone". Are you not aware that gonorrhea IS clap? They are one and the same! Like Clark Kent and Superman! So which do believe? Because if you believe that gonorrhea is easily spread thru oral but clap is not. . . Well, isn't that sort of like believing that a woman has bolt ons, and that the same woman has all-natural tits, at the same time?! Or maybe, like the Queen of Hearts in Through the Looking Glass, you are able to "believe 6 impossible things before breakfast"!

  10. #1841
    Quote Originally Posted by OldSkool68  [View Original Post]
    And I see further down that someone else got burned from a BBBJ. Since when? Last I remember, it was "virtually impossible" to get *anything* from a BBBJ. It was the absolute safest thing one could do. I mean, I think they'd have to eat s**t and then suck your dick for you to get anything. Are you absolutely certain you got something from oral sex?

    -OSk.
    Absolutely certain, I've been in the hobby 15+ yrs & never ever fuck these hoes raw, even anal I wrap up but I love a nice wet BBBJ. I usually opt just for that & this is the first time I caught something. I'm just glad it was something easily treatable but still scary from a BBBJ.

  11. #1840

    Joelle

    Quote Originally Posted by MrRicFlair  [View Original Post]
    Yeah I used to see her fairly regular, up until last year after she moved to and. Kingstown- I also wrapped up for her pussy & ass but she burned me from BBBJ. Haven't seen her since, this was almost exactly a year ago.
    I've always wrapped up eith Joelle. I saw her about 3 or 4 months ago and her pussy reeked. That's usually a sign that something isn't right downstairs. Whether it's hygiene, BV or a STD. The concern with someone who offers bareback to everyone is they aren't getting tested and don't care. I stopped getting BBBJ awhile ago.

  12. #1839
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1283
    Quote Originally Posted by SwimSays  [View Original Post]
    Gonorrhea is very easily spread through oral, various types of HPV as well. Much less likely to spread Clap, Syph, or HIV through just oral alone.
    I saw two women that I narrowed it down to. I got symptoms 3 days later and went to my primary, who referred me to the STD Clinic, which confirmed I had both Gonorrhea and Chlamydia.

  13. #1838
    Quote Originally Posted by OldSkool68  [View Original Post]
    And I see further down that someone else got burned from a BBBJ. Since when? Last I remember, it was "virtually impossible" to get *anything* from a BBBJ. It was the absolute safest thing one could do. I mean, I think they'd have to eat s**t and then suck your dick for you to get anything. Are you absolutely certain you got something from oral sex?

    -OSk.
    Gonorrhea is very easily spread through oral, various types of HPV as well. Much less likely to spread Clap, Syph, or HIV through just oral alone.

  14. #1837

    Wait, wait, wait, wait. Come again?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrRicFlair  [View Original Post]
    "... but she burned me from BBBJ."
    And I see further down that someone else got burned from a BBBJ. Since when? Last I remember, it was "virtually impossible" to get *anything* from a BBBJ. It was the absolute safest thing one could do. I mean, I think they'd have to eat s**t and then suck your dick for you to get anything. Are you absolutely certain you got something from oral sex?

    -OSk.

  15. #1836

    Joelle / joanne

    Quote Originally Posted by LotLizard  [View Original Post]
    Joanne gave me epididymitis after I fucked her ass. My ball bag swelled up to the size of a softball. I went to ri hospital and they gave my antibiotics. It was a rough month but I survived.
    Yeah I used to see her fairly regular, up until last year after she moved to and. Kingstown- I also wrapped up for her pussy & ass but she burned me from BBBJ. Haven't seen her since, this was almost exactly a year ago.

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