"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[HollowGuy]

To tack on to this.

-Sugar dating is definitely more fun in most ways. I almost treated it like escorting at first. Getting the ppm set, booking the hotel, doing the deed, and on to the next one. Now I kind of like the challenge of taking a first timer and leading them to water. Sometimes it's a young college girl, sometimes it's a divorced mom. Definitely a slower process, but challenges like this make it more fun when they pay off..

I have found success at restaurants as well, but I swear. These arrangements nowadays feel like I accidentally wandered into some alternate reality. Is it just me, or are there way too many simps out here acting like full-on pay pigs? I mean, I know of a setup where some out-of-town guy is literally paying this girl's rent, bought her a whole new car, everything all so when he sneaks away from his wife and kids, she'll, uh. Put on a strapon and poundtown him.

And look, I've hung out with this girl before while hanging with my girl. She is for the streets. Out every weekend drinking, partying, and hooking up with random guys like it's her side hustle. She even tried to come on to me once, but I'm just not attracted to her plus, I don't play anywhere near my ass.

I don't know, man. The bowl seems broken to me. Girls don't have loyalty, they lie, steal, cheat, get high and drunk. They are not interested in bettering they life they just want fast money and don't care who they hurt. Idk maybe its time for me to give it up.

[FarFarAway]

I am getting tired of seeing the same chicks in the Atlanta escort scene. I feel like the talent has dried up a bit. I'm in a position in my career where I have quite a bit of play money / disposable income. I'm considering venturing into sugar babies-arrangements. I know new accounts need to selfie verify on Seeking. Can you remove your photo afterwards and still be a verified account or do you always have to have a photo shown? How do you guys manage your photos and still be discreet on there? Can all the ladies see your photo (s) or do they have to request it? Any specific resources or a newbie primer with tips on being successful on Seeking or similar sites? Yeah, I know most of you will say RTFF. Sorry for all the questions. I'm a total rookie in this area.

Learn from the masters. The Richmond, VA thread formerly was the de facto national sugar thread. Many archives were made from the best posts. That archive is still there. It may not deal w / more modern issues, such as OF pic sellers, and facial rec, but you'll get many tips on how to get into coeds panties.

[Christian Troy]

The selfie is not a photo that is part of your profile. There is nothing to remove. And I use one profile photo that is not of me. I have two older accts that don't require that selfie bullsh*t. But you can have private photos that they girls must request, for them to see.

Anyway, besides that, just use common sense and if you want to give Seeking all your personal information, then go for it. I am not "discreet" on there, but I am private. I mostly gave up on escorts years, ago and sugar dating is far superior, in most ways. Not all, but most.

And yes, RTFF for a lot more valuable information.

To tack on to this.

-Sugar dating is definitely more fun in most ways. I almost treated it like escorting at first. Getting the ppm set, booking the hotel, doing the deed, and on to the next one. Now I kind of like the challenge of taking a first timer and leading them to water. Sometimes it's a young college girl, sometimes it's a divorced mom. Definitely a slower process, but challenges like this make it more fun when they pay off.

-Don't just limit yourself to seeking. There's also sugardaddymeet and secretbenefits.

-You don't necessarily have to limit yourself to sugar sites either. Guys have had success on social media or regular dating sites. Pretty much anywhere there are females online is a potential hunting ground.

-You will 100% see girls in the escort scene on the sugar sites. I'll still check out tryst or something once every few weeks to cross reference (kinda ruins the 'girl next door' fantasy when they're a pro).

[Peter Johnson]

I am getting tired of seeing the same chicks in the Atlanta escort scene. I feel like the talent has dried up a bit. I'm in a position in my career where I have quite a bit of play money / disposable income. I'm considering venturing into sugar babies-arrangements. I know new accounts need to selfie verify on Seeking. Can you remove your photo afterwards and still be a verified account or do you always have to have a photo shown? How do you guys manage your photos and still be discreet on there? Can all the ladies see your photo (s) or do they have to request it? Any specific resources or a newbie primer with tips on being successful on Seeking or similar sites? Yeah, I know most of you will say RTFF. Sorry for all the questions. I'm a total rookie in this area.

The selfie is not a photo that is part of your profile. There is nothing to remove. And I use one profile photo that is not of me. I have two older accts that don't require that selfie bullsh*t. But you can have private photos that they girls must request, for them to see.

Anyway, besides that, just use common sense and if you want to give Seeking all your personal information, then go for it. I am not "discreet" on there, but I am private. I mostly gave up on escorts years, ago and sugar dating is far superior, in most ways. Not all, but most.

And yes, RTFF for a lot more valuable information.

[MrPhantom]

I am getting tired of seeing the same chicks in the Atlanta escort scene. I feel like the talent has dried up a bit. I'm in a position in my career where I have quite a bit of play money / disposable income. I'm considering venturing into sugar babies-arrangements. I know new accounts need to selfie verify on Seeking. Can you remove your photo afterwards and still be a verified account or do you always have to have a photo shown? How do you guys manage your photos and still be discreet on there? Can all the ladies see your photo (s) or do they have to request it? Any specific resources or a newbie primer with tips on being successful on Seeking or similar sites? Yeah, I know most of you will say RTFF. Sorry for all the questions. I'm a total rookie in this area.

[Peter Johnson]

Are none of you guys getting the I'd check verification hold?

I mentioned below that my account got suspended about a week ago, and they said I must send in gov't I'd to get it lifted. And no f'ing way I'm doing that, considering this sugar dating is a gray area that some would say is borderline illegal. I don't feel it is, but of course some would disagree, and I don't need my ID being given to LE.... or to everyone in the world, if there is a data breach. It just isn't worth the risk, for me.

I am going to dispute my credit card charge for my last subscription, just to fuck with them back. I'll probably lose the dispute, but it's a strike against them with VISA to even have someone attempting a chargeback. I used a prepaid card, so it's a hassle, but can be done. I urge everyone to do the same, when they suspend your acct and steal your $.

[IAmHereForFun]

Sent you a dm with some intel.

Hey yo my Mans!, thanks a million for all these good details bro you lookin' out! I have to keep it 100 tho. I got to be honest cause' 80% to maybe even 90% of these chics are a hard pass for me!. But! I'd like to smash one or two of them though LOL real talk! I don't have a subscription to the seeking site because I don't want to commit to their monthly charges, it if ya'll out here smashing off that site with PPM then I might just have to swing it! I'm not into hanging out and courting all these girls with the high hopes of getting in their pants after spending a bunch of cash. I like booking an hour or two with a solid broad and getting f to it, ya know? When I read some of why'all's posts and you say she gives off pro vibes, to me that's a good thing! Do you all view that as negative though? Real question let me know! I've only been into this "hobby" here for the last two years. I'm just always on the hunt for the next hot chic to experience! I've had a view regulars but something always happens and they fall of or relocate so. Still on the hunt fellas! LOL.

[MajMilkDuds]

Are none of you guys getting the I'd check verification hold?

[MadDog1746]

Sent you a dm with some intel.

Haven't provided much of anything to this community since we use other sites in Texas. I have upcoming travels to Atlanta and was hoping to get any intel on activities the following if you have experienced. If any members are ever in the Dallas or Houston area I'm happy to share local gems. Also have a few in ATL from previous travels that are great all between $250-$500 ppm. Happy to share those in DM since I rarely go back for seconds. Mainly go for AA & Mixed SB's.

Nicole.

Asking $500 ppm, will take $400.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...2-fdf7c545d49f

Myah.

Asking $400, haven't countered. Conversation has been good.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...c-3b4824d7fbaf

Nya.

Haven't discussed $ but texts frequently. Good convo & personality.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...6-6b01409283dd

Elegantbeauty24.

Seems firm on $400, good convo.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...9-05f0b273cc8e

Liyah.

$300, haven't text much.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...5-07126361ba39

Lola.

Haven't discussed $, good convo & her body looks perfect in pics.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...d-8345c104fb39

Fariha.

Seems semi-pro ish but bubbly through text. Firm at $500, only considering because of those tits.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...2-dfbb2e86dbb2

Yara.

$400 firm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...4-2969039557c6

Mimi.

Haven't discussed $ yet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...6-345fc15de7e6

Godiva.

Hadn't discussed $, huge tits & seems cool through text.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...6-293928b6bdd1

[FarFarAway]

Alexandra: https://members.seeking.com/member/a...5-5506ee74223e.

Cali - https://members.seeking.com/member/9...0-b8014665cf59.

And I think each of those would probably be 300 ppm for hotel date. I can't say for sure though. I've seen Cali a few times though, she is cool, if you like her type.

My Seeking acct got shut down again, so probably not much new intel from me for awhile. This time, they said my photo is not accurate so they say I have to send them my personal identity documents to restore the acct. No way I am doing that.

Some worthy out there should make a little side business from either taking someone's real photo and doctoring it so it isn't traceable back to them, but doesn't make them look uglier.

I have tried using facial recognition sites to find guys who look like me to submit those as my profile photos. However, they dudes are not the look I want to convey.

[UncleLewis99]

Haven't provided much of anything to this community since we use other sites in Texas. I have upcoming travels to Atlanta and was hoping to get any intel on activities the following if you have experienced. If any members are ever in the Dallas or Houston area I'm happy to share local gems. Also have a few in ATL from previous travels that are great all between $250-$500 ppm. Happy to share those in DM since I rarely go back for seconds. Mainly go for AA & Mixed SB's.

Nicole.

Asking $500 ppm, will take $400.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...2-fdf7c545d49f

Myah.

Asking $400, haven't countered. Conversation has been good.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...c-3b4824d7fbaf

Nya.

Haven't discussed $ but texts frequently. Good convo & personality.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...6-6b01409283dd

Elegantbeauty24.

Seems firm on $400, good convo.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...9-05f0b273cc8e

Liyah.

$300, haven't text much.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...5-07126361ba39

Lola.

Haven't discussed $, good convo & her body looks perfect in pics.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...d-8345c104fb39

Fariha.

Seems semi-pro ish but bubbly through text. Firm at $500, only considering because of those tits.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...2-dfbb2e86dbb2

Yara.

$400 firm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...4-2969039557c6

Mimi.

Haven't discussed $ yet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...6-345fc15de7e6

Godiva.

Hadn't discussed $, huge tits & seems cool through text.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...6-293928b6bdd1

[Peter Johnson]

Can you share links to these girls ads or point me in the right direction? Please and thank you!

Alexandra: https://members.seeking.com/member/a...5-5506ee74223e.

Cali - https://members.seeking.com/member/9...0-b8014665cf59.

And I think each of those would probably be 300 ppm for hotel date. I can't say for sure though. I've seen Cali a few times though, she is cool, if you like her type.

My Seeking acct got shut down again, so probably not much new intel from me for awhile. This time, they said my photo is not accurate so they say I have to send them my personal identity documents to restore the acct. No way I am doing that.

[IAmHereForFun]

Yes, I get that we don't want to unnecessarily pay more than the market price, but $200 is not the market price for a hot white 40 y/o, and there are some of them out there. And if they allow pics and video, and CIP, then that does add some additional value.

I seem to be stuck at 300-400 lately, although I did give one 200 the other day. She was in her 20's and ok with pics and video, but insisted on CFS, so I just said we would skip the FS part. Although she did let me slip in bare, for a couple of strokes. And I guess Alexandra was 200 for car date CIP. And same with Cali.

I'm more focused on good value lately, and I don't care as much if I could potentially haggle the girl down 100, as long as they make me feel incredible..

Can you share links to these girls ads or point me in the right direction? Please and thank you!

[Peter Johnson]

40+ usually know how to have a good time, where is it in the "rule book" that if you spend over 200 you're committing a sin?

Yes, I get that we don't want to unnecessarily pay more than the market price, but $200 is not the market price for a hot white 40 y/o, and there are some of them out there. And if they allow pics and video, and CIP, then that does add some additional value.

I seem to be stuck at 300-400 lately, although I did give one 200 the other day. She was in her 20's and ok with pics and video, but insisted on CFS, so I just said we would skip the FS part. Although she did let me slip in bare, for a couple of strokes. And I guess Alexandra was 200 for car date CIP. And same with Cali.

I'm more focused on good value lately, and I don't care as much if I could potentially haggle the girl down 100, as long as they make me feel incredible.

But G4G still makes an important point that we don't want to throw away money unnecessarily, and contribute to some kind of inflationary simp spiral, where these girls are getting way more than they deserve.

So the devil in the details, and there aren't really any hard and fast general all-encompassing rules.

[Eslide3]

She's "38" which means she's almost certainly 40+. Hopefully everyone knows at this point there's never ANY reason to give a 40 year old SB more than 200. We all know that right?

40+ usually know how to have a good time, where is it in the "rule book" that if you spend over 200 you're committing a sin?