Massage Therapists for Therapeutic and L1 Finish

[DeeMoney23]

I've been seeing Jenny for years, since I first met her when she was working with KK. She's one of my faves and a regular in my rotation. I've read some of the comments and understandable frustrations and I hope this post will be helpful to some.

My first observation is that her business model has evolved over the years. When she was working with KK she was pretty much the same (as KK), cautious but more open to L1 on the first visit. And this was especially true if KK vouched for you. Since going fully independent she's become more cautious, perhaps because she feels she has more to lose. For anyone who has visited her current place, for example, it's obvious she's spent a ton of $ turning it into a spa that might rival some in a luxury hotel (esp the shower). At present, it's my assessment that she has plenty of established regulars and is not particularly looking for new clients. It's not that she'll turn anyone away, it's just that her business model is meeting her needs without having to hustle for more. That's one reason (IMO) you rarely see an advertisement from her anymore. No Bedpage and maybe once in a great while on Craigslist, although I can't recall the last time I saw an ad.

The thing about business models is that they're a good fit for some but may not be for others. K-Girl agencies, for example, have a business model in which they provide a superior level of attractiveness and service, but clients need to go through a higher level of screening. That model doesn't work for me, but they have every right to run their business as they see fit. Makes no sense for me to complain, I just wish them well and look elsewhere. Many AMPs have a business model that involves maximizing the number of clients per girl, per day. That often leads to rushed appts and a masseuse that interrupts the session to answer the phone or door. There's also some privacy concerns and a risk of LE and Health Dept visits. Again, not my cup of tea but it is what it is and it's up to me to find what meets my particular needs.

With respect to Jenny, she's not worth visiting for anyone who is just looking for a one-off visit. I'm a massage snob, and while she gives a great CMT massage it's still not worth the price (IMO) for legit only. But it's also worth noting that she hasn't raised her prices like others, so she's quite a good value for those who are willing to invest a little time and effort to see her regularly. By value I mean attractiveness, quality of massage, privacy, quiet, uninterrupted attention, cleanliness, and a great L1 finish. She also isn't a talker but is intelligent and will engage in as much conversation as the client wishes to initiate.

So the first thing any monger needs to decide is whether her business model is a good fit and whether they're interested in becoming a regular or something more than just a "one and done" client. And I totally understand that some mongers place a premium on variety. For them, it makes sense to seek out women who are a sure bet for services on the first visit. For Jenny, however, there's a certain level of rapport and comfort that needs to be reached. It's an individual thing and, while YMMV, it realistically should be achievable by the 2nd visit. She really only needs to feel safe with you with respect to the fact that you're not LE, not an a**hole, and not likely to be a problem client (I. E. , someone she'd be willing to see again).

If you think you might be a good fit, here are some suggestions:

- Consider booking a 90 minute session. That's something LE is unlikely to do and provides more time to reach the necessary comfort level.

- Consider getting a waxing session. While it may not be your thing (it isn't mine) it's also un-LE-like and has the added benefit (depending on the areas to be waxed) of requiring some handling of your man parts!

- Make her laugh! Nothing builds rapport and comfort faster, IME. For example, if she waxed my southern regions, I'd tell her it hurts a bit and ask if she could kiss it and make it feel better! She'd say no, of course, but if it gets a chuckle or smile out of her I'd follow up by asking "If not a kiss, then how about a little rub?" or something along those lines.

- Don't be afraid to ask (politely)! From the client side, you have zero risk ('cause she ain't LE) and there's absolutely no downside to asking for a HE. Hopefully the time you spent reaching a good comfort level will pay immediate dividends. If not, just say "Maybe next time" and ask when she'll be available again. Or even start doing a little DIY (I guarantee she won't object or say anything) and ask for some extra oil and for some help after a minute.

For all who think that it's too much work, I absolutely get it and would respectfully submit that her business model is not a good fit for you. Those initial hurdles, like screening with agency or the first (no extra) session with a Cuddle Comfort girl, are simply what it takes to be accepted as a regular. Once that's done, you're in and you'll never need to say another word. Make your appointment, lay on the table in a clean, beautiful, private place, and get an awesome massage and finish for about what you'd pay at an AMP.

Just my two-cents' worth, hope it's helpful to some.

P.S. Please don't PM me with comments like she "should" do this or "shouldn't" do that. Her business model is what it is. If it's not a good fit, fine. If it is, then see above.

Great informative post and it makes a lot of sense. 👍127998;.

With that being said, I'm currently 0 for 2 with Jenny as I went back to see her last week. It's all good as she gives a really great massage and she's super nice. Her spa is also top notch as far as quality. I'll just go see my other ladies when I'm looking for special treatment on the flip. Stay safe fellas.

[JmSuttr]

I've been seeing Jenny for years, since I first met her when she was working with KK. She's one of my faves and a regular in my rotation. I've read some of the comments and understandable frustrations and I hope this post will be helpful to some.

My first observation is that her business model has evolved over the years. When she was working with KK she was pretty much the same (as KK), cautious but more open to L1 on the first visit. And this was especially true if KK vouched for you. Since going fully independent she's become more cautious, perhaps because she feels she has more to lose. For anyone who has visited her current place, for example, it's obvious she's spent a ton of $ turning it into a spa that might rival some in a luxury hotel (esp the shower). At present, it's my assessment that she has plenty of established regulars and is not particularly looking for new clients. It's not that she'll turn anyone away, it's just that her business model is meeting her needs without having to hustle for more. That's one reason (IMO) you rarely see an advertisement from her anymore. No Bedpage and maybe once in a great while on Craigslist, although I can't recall the last time I saw an ad.

The thing about business models is that they're a good fit for some but may not be for others. K-Girl agencies, for example, have a business model in which they provide a superior level of attractiveness and service, but clients need to go through a higher level of screening. That model doesn't work for me, but they have every right to run their business as they see fit. Makes no sense for me to complain, I just wish them well and look elsewhere. Many AMPs have a business model that involves maximizing the number of clients per girl, per day. That often leads to rushed appts and a masseuse that interrupts the session to answer the phone or door. There's also some privacy concerns and a risk of LE and Health Dept visits. Again, not my cup of tea but it is what it is and it's up to me to find what meets my particular needs.

With respect to Jenny, she's not worth visiting for anyone who is just looking for a one-off visit. I'm a massage snob, and while she gives a great CMT massage it's still not worth the price (IMO) for legit only. But it's also worth noting that she hasn't raised her prices like others, so she's quite a good value for those who are willing to invest a little time and effort to see her regularly. By value I mean attractiveness, quality of massage, privacy, quiet, uninterrupted attention, cleanliness, and a great L1 finish. She also isn't a talker but is intelligent and will engage in as much conversation as the client wishes to initiate.

So the first thing any monger needs to decide is whether her business model is a good fit and whether they're interested in becoming a regular or something more than just a "one and done" client. And I totally understand that some mongers place a premium on variety. For them, it makes sense to seek out women who are a sure bet for services on the first visit. For Jenny, however, there's a certain level of rapport and comfort that needs to be reached. It's an individual thing and, while YMMV, it realistically should be achievable by the 2nd visit. She really only needs to feel safe with you with respect to the fact that you're not LE, not an a**hole, and not likely to be a problem client (I. E. , someone she'd be willing to see again).

If you think you might be a good fit, here are some suggestions:

- Consider booking a 90 minute session. That's something LE is unlikely to do and provides more time to reach the necessary comfort level.

- Consider getting a waxing session. While it may not be your thing (it isn't mine) it's also un-LE-like and has the added benefit (depending on the areas to be waxed) of requiring some handling of your man parts!

- Make her laugh! Nothing builds rapport and comfort faster, IME. For example, if she waxed my southern regions, I'd tell her it hurts a bit and ask if she could kiss it and make it feel better! She'd say no, of course, but if it gets a chuckle or smile out of her I'd follow up by asking "If not a kiss, then how about a little rub?" or something along those lines.

- Don't be afraid to ask (politely)! From the client side, you have zero risk ('cause she ain't LE) and there's absolutely no downside to asking for a HE. Hopefully the time you spent reaching a good comfort level will pay immediate dividends. If not, just say "Maybe next time" and ask when she'll be available again. Or even start doing a little DIY (I guarantee she won't object or say anything) and ask for some extra oil and for some help after a minute.

For all who think that it's too much work, I absolutely get it and would respectfully submit that her business model is not a good fit for you. Those initial hurdles, like screening with agency or the first (no extra) session with a Cuddle Comfort girl, are simply what it takes to be accepted as a regular. Once that's done, you're in and you'll never need to say another word. Make your appointment, lay on the table in a clean, beautiful, private place, and get an awesome massage and finish for about what you'd pay at an AMP.

Just my two-cents' worth, hope it's helpful to some.

P.S. Please don't PM me with comments like she "should" do this or "shouldn't" do that. Her business model is what it is. If it's not a good fit, fine. If it is, then see above.

[Dunnit]

Went and saw Kiko at Diamond Flash due to all the reviews of her shoving her tits in peoples mouths LOL. Unfortunately I don't think she does that anymore (or at least I wasnt given the same level of service). Massage was fine w / standard L1. I guess she reads these forums because she asked me multiple times if I have read her reviews and if that's why I requested her. I laughed and said yes I have, have you? To which she replied "yes I read them, not all of them are true".

Anyway, her tits were pretty nice but a little too far of a drive for me to make without the allure of nursing, so I'll probably continue looking elsewhere.

I saw Kiko last week and she allowed nursing as usual. She said my hands were cold so she didn't want them on her boobs, so sticking them in my mouth may have been her way of avoiding the cold hands LOL.

[Sex Rohmer]

Anyone have any recommendations for a good prostate massage, either AMP or independent. I know there are a number out there (especially indy) that will offer it, but curious who's had a good experience with it and where.

Try Honey at Palace in McLean.

[HardforRubs]

Anyone have any recommendations for a good prostate massage, either AMP or independent. I know there are a number out there (especially indy) that will offer it, but curious who's had a good experience with it and where.

[CVilleCub]

I've found Kiko can be a bit moody. Guess she is going to read this (cheer up Kiko, we love you). But dog, you need to have a better story ready to roll if you request a provider by name if you've never seen her before. Sounds like she wasn't so happy to be reminded that we all go to see her just for her meat balloons.

Fair critique. Usually I'm better at deflecting, but what story would I have other than "my friend recommended you" if I've never seen her and I'm asking for her by name hah.

She was very cheery otherwise, I think she just had some physical pains she was dealing with at the time.

[Oxy1521]

Went and saw Kiko at Diamond Flash due to all the reviews of her shoving her tits in peoples mouths LOL. Unfortunately I don't think she does that anymore (or at least I wasnt given the same level of service). Massage was fine w / standard L1. I guess she reads these forums because she asked me multiple times if I have read her reviews and if that's why I requested her. I laughed and said yes I have, have you? To which she replied "yes I read them, not all of them are true".

Anyway, her tits were pretty nice but a little too far of a drive for me to make without the allure of nursing, so I'll probably continue looking elsewhere.

I've found Kiko can be a bit moody. Guess she is going to read this (cheer up Kiko, we love you). But dog, you need to have a better story ready to roll if you request a provider by name if you've never seen her before. Sounds like she wasn't so happy to be reminded that we all go to see her just for her meat balloons.

[BubbleBoi402-shill]

Finally was able to get an appointment with Jenny last night. I guess she's at a new location at not the address that's been listed in here off Gallows rd. Anyway, she gives a great massage and came off very sweet and nice. With that said, no HJ ending for me yesterday. Not sure if it's because it was my first time there or not, but didn't realize she basically is an independent provider and not at an AMP which means her price of a benjamin and a Jackson can be steep if your just going for the massage and no HJ. Regardless, I will probably try her again in the future as I said the massage was great and maybe I'll have more luck next go round.

While someone scored HJ + pm in first visit. I don't like playing this kind of game.

[DeeMoney23]

Finally was able to get an appointment with Jenny last night. I guess she's at a new location at not the address that's been listed in here off Gallows rd. Anyway, she gives a great massage and came off very sweet and nice. With that said, no HJ ending for me yesterday. Not sure if it's because it was my first time there or not, but didn't realize she basically is an independent provider and not at an AMP which means her price of a benjamin and a Jackson can be steep if your just going for the massage and no HJ. Regardless, I will probably try her again in the future as I said the massage was great and maybe I'll have more luck next go round.

[SteveSmithAbq]

Therapeutic + L1 is my go to. Always checking this thread for new reports, but there hasn't been much lately. Let's get some more recommendations going!

As others have mentioned, New Massage in Falls Church is fantastic. Amazing massage and tease, plus L1 the softest hands I've ever felt. Though I've heard that they've been cautious in recent weeks.

Oaks Massage ("Massage Therapy" on Columbia Pike on maps). Similar as above, though New Massage is in its own league IMO.

Also had a nice time at Melting Snow / Rainbow Relaxing Spa, but not worth the drive for me personally.

How about you guys? Would love suggestions on new / UTR places worth checking out, or just recent reports.

Thanks for sharing. I'm going to check them out. I've been rotating between:

- Body Soul and Spirit (Jenny) in Vienna.

- May Wellness, Fairfax.

- Best Therapy, McLean (listed on rubmaps).

All give a great massage, good teasing and finish by attractive providers and all are very clean places.

I visit Comfort Spot, Fairfax every now and then. I don't go as often because their service is not always consistent.

[JohnaDoe1337]

Therapeutic + L1 is my go to. Always checking this thread for new reports, but there hasn't been much lately. Let's get some more recommendations going!

As others have mentioned, New Massage in Falls Church is fantastic. Amazing massage and tease, plus L1 — the softest hands I've ever felt. Though I've heard that they've been cautious in recent weeks.

Oaks Massage ("Massage Therapy" on Columbia Pike on maps). Similar as above, though New Massage is in its own league IMO.

Also had a nice time at Melting Snow / Rainbow Relaxing Spa, but not worth the drive for me personally.

How about you guys? Would love suggestions on new / UTR places worth checking out, or just recent reports.

[Squatty2]

Although my question is about latina providers, I'm adding this here since the question is L1 specific. Are there any hot, young (under 30) provider, good massage and don't rush the experience? I have high recommendations for Magi and Luna (dmvlatinas.); they are great for the 50 year old Mami lovers. Any recommendations would be appreciated. PM for any questions or deets.

I'd say Kel Kel fits the bill.

https://tryst.link/massage/kel-kel

[CVilleCub]

Went and saw Kiko at Diamond Flash due to all the reviews of her shoving her tits in peoples mouths LOL. Unfortunately I don't think she does that anymore (or at least I wasnt given the same level of service). Massage was fine w / standard L1. I guess she reads these forums because she asked me multiple times if I have read her reviews and if that's why I requested her. I laughed and said yes I have, have you? To which she replied "yes I read them, not all of them are true".

Anyway, her tits were pretty nice but a little too far of a drive for me to make without the allure of nursing, so I'll probably continue looking elsewhere.

[KangKong007]

Although my question is about latina providers, I'm adding this here since the question is L1 specific. Are there any hot, young (under 30) provider, good massage and don't rush the experience? I have high recommendations for Magi and Luna (dmvlatinas.); they are great for the 50 year old Mami lovers. Any recommendations would be appreciated. PM for any questions or deets.

[BuckshotWatson]

It is across Grovedale from QQ1 in an office building. Has anyone been here lately? I went a bit when it opened a couple years ago; they did a great massage, and would get close to the equipment, but it never happened for me. I'm considering going again, and would be interested in hearing any updates. PMs are fine; I'm thinking that if any fun stuff went on, it is below the radar and maybe a fireable offense. Thanks.